Okay so. you are talking about all of the good.. now that's great.. But what about the Cost? According to Japan's Satellites only 1 satellite cover's 300,000 people. that means that we have to have about 1024 satellites in AMERICA alone... one satellite cost 21 billion dollars.. that means we are going to pay $21,504,000,000 for those satellites. Now where is the money going to come from? Well that's a thought to remember. Space Based Solar Powered Satellites are good but are we ready for them?
WHY ARENT WE ALL WORKING TO DEVELOP THIS!...Why did we compete with Russia to get to the moon more furiously than we are developing this? I am disappoint!
Boeing engineered a Solar Power Satellite plan after the first oil embargo in 1973. Their plan was approved by the Dept. Of Energy and subsequently shut down by the Carter administration and nuclear power lobbyists and of course, the oil lobbyists. This is still the only solution to the worlds future energy needs. For excellent text book explanations, read either one of Ralph Nansen's books on the subject. He was one of the engineers at Boeing in the day...Sun Power or Energy Crisis. Checkitout
you know how lucky we are to even have a sun that is a giant freaking planet on freaking fire in the middle of the universe that is probably older than our earth. Do you know how lucky we are even to exist near this ball that has been burning for this long?
I don't think anyone see's this. Your all concerned about trivial media concerns. I'm done here.
And that glider craft could be " towed " to a very high altitude perhaps by two or three , otherwize empty (except for extra fuel), C-5 Galaxy cargo planes utilizing a common hawser to tow the spaceplane behind at a safe distance relative to the initiation of transmission of satellite based microwaves to the port and starboard sides of " faired in " reception dishes in the port and starboard sides of the space plane . Two transmission satellites same exact longitude different lattitudes.
werner von braun discussed this concept in a television interview in the mid? sixties . It has occured to me that this concept might be applied directly to launching spacecraft in that the powdered aluminum propellent , which is the main constituent of solid rocket boosters could be 'maximized" via a continuous stream of electrical power from above therby allowing SRB's underslung a gliding type re-entry vehichle to achieve a much higher apogee ?
PG&E is looking to buy 200MW of space based solar power from Solaren Corp. in Manhattan Beach, CA starting in 2016. The rectenna will be in Fresno. Solaren says they will get their powersat to geo using an existing lifter. They hope to get approvals from CA by this fall.
@kousha8420 Wind, geothermal, terrestrial based solar - all band aids.They may help power a few homes, but they can never power industry, like the steel or aluminum industries. The United States will be in deep trouble if we don't develop this system. We will never be competitive in the world economy if we don't do it. Besides, we are currently the only country with the capability of doing it, right now. We could become the next OPEC, selling energy and satellites to other countries. Seriously.
@kousha8420 WInd power, geothermal, terrestrial based solar - all band aids. Solar Power Satellites are the only system that can deliver enough power to drive our economy. You need massive amounts of electricity to produce steel, aluminum, automobiles. If we want to be competitive in the world economy we need this system It will pay dividends, just like Grand Coulee Dam has, after all these years. It's expensive up front, but it pays for itself 10 times over in the long run. INVESTMENT
Obama's National Space Council should review SSP in short order, so that an announcement can be made by spring 2009. An announcement by the American President is the mother duck behind which all others align. More tests? Sure. Do all the tests and demos you want. I suggest that we need to fire up a helluva lot more than a light bulb from space to demo SSP's onions.
Actually, Peter Glaser proposed it in 1968. O'Neill saw it as the major industrial reason to settle high orbit, and, therefore, a reason to build his 1-g rotating habitats. SSP has been favorably reviewed by NASA, DOE, and now DOD, and it is rapidly approaching a business case. A little nugget: Buzz Aldrin is talking with T. Boone Pickens about SSP, and he is working on large reusable launchers to start the job.
Re-usable launchers are cost prohibitive. The shuttle well demonstrated this. When the vehicle is required to be reusable the engineering constraints cause maintenance and safety to be sacrificed. Any talk of these old buzzwords should be shunned. Even if it is somebody famous talking about it.
@moonus111 Reusable launchers the way NASA would build them are cost prohibitive. The whole shuttle design was a joke, like using a Porsche to haul lumber to a building site. We need a truck. By using Saturn V type boosters (liquid 02 and kerosene or hydrogen or whatever) and a much larger detachable freighter, both of which could be flown and landed for re-use, the cost would come down dramatically. No need to develop new boosters - only the airframes. NASA is sorely lacking these days.
Okay so. you are talking about all of the good.. now that's great.. But what about the Cost? According to Japan's Satellites only 1 satellite cover's 300,000 people. that means that we have to have about 1024 satellites in AMERICA alone... one satellite cost 21 billion dollars.. that means we are going to pay $21,504,000,000 for those satellites. Now where is the money going to come from? Well that's a thought to remember. Space Based Solar Powered Satellites are good but are we ready for them?
lilnique151 2 months ago
WHY ARENT WE ALL WORKING TO DEVELOP THIS!...Why did we compete with Russia to get to the moon more furiously than we are developing this? I am disappoint!
josh1492 5 months ago
Gundam 00 will be reality ! only without the mecha's off course
all out wars for non renewable energy, some major groups owning space based energy resources. i wonder if people are researching space elevator
shintsu01 1 year ago
Boeing engineered a Solar Power Satellite plan after the first oil embargo in 1973. Their plan was approved by the Dept. Of Energy and subsequently shut down by the Carter administration and nuclear power lobbyists and of course, the oil lobbyists. This is still the only solution to the worlds future energy needs. For excellent text book explanations, read either one of Ralph Nansen's books on the subject. He was one of the engineers at Boeing in the day...Sun Power or Energy Crisis. Checkitout
Prestostark 1 year ago
you know how lucky we are to even have a sun that is a giant freaking planet on freaking fire in the middle of the universe that is probably older than our earth. Do you know how lucky we are even to exist near this ball that has been burning for this long?
I don't think anyone see's this. Your all concerned about trivial media concerns. I'm done here.
ChrisWatch 2 years ago
And that glider craft could be " towed " to a very high altitude perhaps by two or three , otherwize empty (except for extra fuel), C-5 Galaxy cargo planes utilizing a common hawser to tow the spaceplane behind at a safe distance relative to the initiation of transmission of satellite based microwaves to the port and starboard sides of " faired in " reception dishes in the port and starboard sides of the space plane . Two transmission satellites same exact longitude different lattitudes.
srofficial06 2 years ago
werner von braun discussed this concept in a television interview in the mid? sixties . It has occured to me that this concept might be applied directly to launching spacecraft in that the powdered aluminum propellent , which is the main constituent of solid rocket boosters could be 'maximized" via a continuous stream of electrical power from above therby allowing SRB's underslung a gliding type re-entry vehichle to achieve a much higher apogee ?
srofficial06 2 years ago
PG&E is looking to buy 200MW of space based solar power from Solaren Corp. in Manhattan Beach, CA starting in 2016. The rectenna will be in Fresno. Solaren says they will get their powersat to geo using an existing lifter. They hope to get approvals from CA by this fall.
ProgRok 2 years ago
solar sterling is ready right now, it's affordable and way more efficient than PV-
it can be manufactured with current technology, it's cheap and produces AC power...
ycats1000 3 years ago
We should throw a lot of money at this, like the arms race of the 60s. The sun is always shinning in space.
Trazer2525 3 years ago 2
Currently it is not effiecent and too costly! there cheaper ways for free energy. Wind, Geothermal...
kousha8420 3 years ago
Good points. I just hope with the cost of oil going down, we don't do what we did in the past and stop developing other forms or energy.
Trazer2525 3 years ago
@kousha8420 Wind, geothermal, terrestrial based solar - all band aids.They may help power a few homes, but they can never power industry, like the steel or aluminum industries. The United States will be in deep trouble if we don't develop this system. We will never be competitive in the world economy if we don't do it. Besides, we are currently the only country with the capability of doing it, right now. We could become the next OPEC, selling energy and satellites to other countries. Seriously.
Prestostark 1 year ago
@kousha8420 WInd power, geothermal, terrestrial based solar - all band aids. Solar Power Satellites are the only system that can deliver enough power to drive our economy. You need massive amounts of electricity to produce steel, aluminum, automobiles. If we want to be competitive in the world economy we need this system It will pay dividends, just like Grand Coulee Dam has, after all these years. It's expensive up front, but it pays for itself 10 times over in the long run. INVESTMENT
Prestostark 1 year ago
I totally agree with you. Humans are so dependant on energy that we have to do this.
jokerjay81 3 years ago
Obama's National Space Council should review SSP in short order, so that an announcement can be made by spring 2009. An announcement by the American President is the mother duck behind which all others align. More tests? Sure. Do all the tests and demos you want. I suggest that we need to fire up a helluva lot more than a light bulb from space to demo SSP's onions.
Palmstream 3 years ago 2
Actually, Peter Glaser proposed it in 1968. O'Neill saw it as the major industrial reason to settle high orbit, and, therefore, a reason to build his 1-g rotating habitats. SSP has been favorably reviewed by NASA, DOE, and now DOD, and it is rapidly approaching a business case. A little nugget: Buzz Aldrin is talking with T. Boone Pickens about SSP, and he is working on large reusable launchers to start the job.
Palmstream 3 years ago 3
Re-usable launchers are cost prohibitive. The shuttle well demonstrated this. When the vehicle is required to be reusable the engineering constraints cause maintenance and safety to be sacrificed. Any talk of these old buzzwords should be shunned. Even if it is somebody famous talking about it.
ha that was a great pun!@Palmstream
moonus111 1 year ago
@moonus111 Reusable launchers the way NASA would build them are cost prohibitive. The whole shuttle design was a joke, like using a Porsche to haul lumber to a building site. We need a truck. By using Saturn V type boosters (liquid 02 and kerosene or hydrogen or whatever) and a much larger detachable freighter, both of which could be flown and landed for re-use, the cost would come down dramatically. No need to develop new boosters - only the airframes. NASA is sorely lacking these days.
Prestostark 1 year ago
@Prestostark Agreed!!! 100%
moonus111 1 year ago
It is about time. This idea has been kicking around since Gerard K O'Neill proposed it back in 1970.
Jmcenanly 3 years ago 6