mrundead: you are right on the money with your comment......If I may add to that the ideology of the American culture must change back to things that are built to last. Example: A manufactured home. It is a cheap temporary structure with no lifespan. You save no money by buying junk and producing junk. If you live and produce in society in a temporary way your society itself will be temporary and is doomed to fail. Once upon a time homes were built well and were passed down through the family.
Not to many American's will get through it if it happens they have lived and enjoyed their way of living for a long time now (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) not enough of the (save) (save) (save) (save) your world dominance will soon come to an end.
It's not only because it's Royalty-based that it doesn't work. It doesn't work because they are a monopoly on the initiation of force, because they have no incentive to care, because they have noone to compete with, because you are forced to pay for them, because people believe they are legitimate. Government can never be legitimate, it will always attract evil people. We need to get rid of the idea of government as we know it altogether. No more voting, taxes, statutes, everything voluntary.
@CorrosionX3 "everything voluntary" is a concept void of meaning. You would throw out democracy ans justice and society as we know would fall to pieces and left to whoever had the power and will to do whatever they like.
@makelle It's not. If you want to provide a service for me, you offer it in the free market, you don't force it on me. Everything I do in my life, every relationship I have is voluntary: I chose my job, I chose my friends. If a government decided those things for me those relationships would fail. Everytime govt enforces its own will on the people, they destroy societies and lives. Democracy and society are second to individual rights.
@CorrosionX3 Only democracy can guarantee your individual rights. If you forget that you're just an animal, nothing else and then you 'choose' what's given without a say. Individual rights comes from a common effort and that's why humans have civilizations and not cows, mice or even pigs.
You mentioned that "every relationship I have is voluntary", I beg to differ. Your first relationship certainly wasn't and that's also a coincidence among circa six billion others on this planet!
@CorrosionX3 "Government can never be legitimate...", you say. What then can be legitimate? And, oh yes, I give that to you that it may attract "evil" people but then again also good people are, but then again good people tend to be preferred.
I don't see your point with everybody being a volunteer and having no say in society, with no laws. And you rather pay private corporations money(taxes are also money, you know) for services that are bound to cost more than government funded utilities.
Nobody is asking for a free for all, I'm just saying the structure you need in society needs to be voluntary and competitive, centered on customer (citizen) service, they would have to win you over for your allegiance instead of forcing you to give it under threat of force.
Check out stefbot on youtube and his site freedomainradio,com for how a stateless society would function.
Well, 6 billion are hungry BECAUSE of governments over the world and the power structure. So I don't know how they are supposed to prevent it or provide order when all they do is create chaos and prevent people from evolving.
@CorrosionX3 Sure there are govt's that repress the ppl but that's not an excuse for not having a democracy. And yes power structure should be in the hands of democratically elected members in a democratic society. I don't believe in haphazardly collected power constellations with no laws preventing them from using power arbitrarily.
The thing is that we'll always have govt's, democratic or not. Govt's don't want chaos and only bad ones create chaos. Bad govt's are inevitably undemocratic.
@makelle No democracy gets to vote my rights away. If you accept it, fine for you, but I don't, and I consider it an infringement and a crime against me.
@CorrosionX3 You're really confused. If you want to influence or in any way deal with society there are but two ways in reality to do that. Since you obviously wish to function as a normal person with friends there is really only one way open. So either you take a democratic stance or a non-democratic e g like any of those Islamic nations. Now in a non-democratic society you you can only dream of rights. You actually sound like a mullah who advocate Sharia laws i e a special code for themselves.
@makelle Wrong. All a democratic society can do is vote statutes for itself, which are rules of a society given the force of law by the consent of the governed. All laws making marijuana possession illegal do not apply to me, there are no victims and I don't consent to the statute making it illegal. I'm not confused, I know what my rights are. You're confused because you think your society owns you and tells you what your rights are.
@makelle You're making it seem as thought the choice is between your kind of collectivism or the islamic collectivism. Wrong again. The choice is between individualism and collectivism, and you're on the same collectivist side as the Islamists. They use a book to justify their tyranny, you would use a majority vote.
@makelle And this individualist, libertarian stances against abusive and intrusive, wasteful, bloated government is making grounds every day, in all parts of the world. You won't be able to stop people from living their lives peacefully and ignoring bureaucratic mandates. They never have enough control, in a few years they'll put cameras in your house or a microchip in you and you'll just take it if you continue allowing bureaucrats to control your life because somehow "democracy" made it ok.
@CorrosionX3 You're mistaken, what's making ground is democracy. Ppl are ridding themselves from self-righteous rulers and dictators who think they own ppls lives and ppl demand their rights. A farmer in China couldn't be more free according to libertarianism but it's not what he is looking for; it's democracy and true freedom.
Humans created societies for the common good. Why would a dictator give up his rule meanwhile libertarians simply go about minding their 'own business'?
Listen, the only way a government will ever work is if everyone becomes a "good person".
Evil people are attracted to the power of government like flies to shit, can't you see it everywhere around you, in every country? Evil people want power and government is where they get it.
Government has been tried the world over and has failed. I don't want to impose my independence from government on everyone, but don't impose your government on me if I refuse to consent, and we'll all be happy.
I think you are a shill and an idiot for doubting me. I have no use for men and women using guns against innocent people and calling themselves "government". We will either have a voluntary society or no society at all.
Goldstandard würde alle Probleme lösen; und zwar nur Goldstandard !
aedil1 3 years ago
mrundead: you are right on the money with your comment......If I may add to that the ideology of the American culture must change back to things that are built to last. Example: A manufactured home. It is a cheap temporary structure with no lifespan. You save no money by buying junk and producing junk. If you live and produce in society in a temporary way your society itself will be temporary and is doomed to fail. Once upon a time homes were built well and were passed down through the family.
cdl1234jdf 3 years ago
Who's this bearded fuck?
simplex555 3 years ago
I like this LaRouche guy! who is the guy with the beard?
Thanks for posting it!!
robertburke101 3 years ago 3
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@robertburke101The guy with the beard is LaRouche from back in the 80's when he was running for the president of USA from jail
Gaus212 1 year ago
Not to many American's will get through it if it happens they have lived and enjoyed their way of living for a long time now (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) (spend) not enough of the (save) (save) (save) (save) your world dominance will soon come to an end.
louishollis 3 years ago 2
It's not only because it's Royalty-based that it doesn't work. It doesn't work because they are a monopoly on the initiation of force, because they have no incentive to care, because they have noone to compete with, because you are forced to pay for them, because people believe they are legitimate. Government can never be legitimate, it will always attract evil people. We need to get rid of the idea of government as we know it altogether. No more voting, taxes, statutes, everything voluntary.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago
@CorrosionX3 "everything voluntary" is a concept void of meaning. You would throw out democracy ans justice and society as we know would fall to pieces and left to whoever had the power and will to do whatever they like.
makelle 1 year ago
@makelle It's not. If you want to provide a service for me, you offer it in the free market, you don't force it on me. Everything I do in my life, every relationship I have is voluntary: I chose my job, I chose my friends. If a government decided those things for me those relationships would fail. Everytime govt enforces its own will on the people, they destroy societies and lives. Democracy and society are second to individual rights.
CorrosionX3 1 year ago
@CorrosionX3 Only democracy can guarantee your individual rights. If you forget that you're just an animal, nothing else and then you 'choose' what's given without a say. Individual rights comes from a common effort and that's why humans have civilizations and not cows, mice or even pigs.
You mentioned that "every relationship I have is voluntary", I beg to differ. Your first relationship certainly wasn't and that's also a coincidence among circa six billion others on this planet!
makelle 1 year ago
@CorrosionX3 "Government can never be legitimate...", you say. What then can be legitimate? And, oh yes, I give that to you that it may attract "evil" people but then again also good people are, but then again good people tend to be preferred.
I don't see your point with everybody being a volunteer and having no say in society, with no laws. And you rather pay private corporations money(taxes are also money, you know) for services that are bound to cost more than government funded utilities.
makelle 1 year ago
Nobody is asking for a free for all, I'm just saying the structure you need in society needs to be voluntary and competitive, centered on customer (citizen) service, they would have to win you over for your allegiance instead of forcing you to give it under threat of force.
Check out stefbot on youtube and his site freedomainradio,com for how a stateless society would function.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago
Well, 6 billion are hungry BECAUSE of governments over the world and the power structure. So I don't know how they are supposed to prevent it or provide order when all they do is create chaos and prevent people from evolving.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago
@CorrosionX3 Sure there are govt's that repress the ppl but that's not an excuse for not having a democracy. And yes power structure should be in the hands of democratically elected members in a democratic society. I don't believe in haphazardly collected power constellations with no laws preventing them from using power arbitrarily.
The thing is that we'll always have govt's, democratic or not. Govt's don't want chaos and only bad ones create chaos. Bad govt's are inevitably undemocratic.
makelle 1 year ago
@makelle No democracy gets to vote my rights away. If you accept it, fine for you, but I don't, and I consider it an infringement and a crime against me.
CorrosionX3 1 year ago
@CorrosionX3 You're really confused. If you want to influence or in any way deal with society there are but two ways in reality to do that. Since you obviously wish to function as a normal person with friends there is really only one way open. So either you take a democratic stance or a non-democratic e g like any of those Islamic nations. Now in a non-democratic society you you can only dream of rights. You actually sound like a mullah who advocate Sharia laws i e a special code for themselves.
makelle 1 year ago
@makelle Wrong. All a democratic society can do is vote statutes for itself, which are rules of a society given the force of law by the consent of the governed. All laws making marijuana possession illegal do not apply to me, there are no victims and I don't consent to the statute making it illegal. I'm not confused, I know what my rights are. You're confused because you think your society owns you and tells you what your rights are.
CorrosionX3 1 year ago
@makelle You're making it seem as thought the choice is between your kind of collectivism or the islamic collectivism. Wrong again. The choice is between individualism and collectivism, and you're on the same collectivist side as the Islamists. They use a book to justify their tyranny, you would use a majority vote.
CorrosionX3 1 year ago
@makelle And this individualist, libertarian stances against abusive and intrusive, wasteful, bloated government is making grounds every day, in all parts of the world. You won't be able to stop people from living their lives peacefully and ignoring bureaucratic mandates. They never have enough control, in a few years they'll put cameras in your house or a microchip in you and you'll just take it if you continue allowing bureaucrats to control your life because somehow "democracy" made it ok.
CorrosionX3 1 year ago
@CorrosionX3 You're mistaken, what's making ground is democracy. Ppl are ridding themselves from self-righteous rulers and dictators who think they own ppls lives and ppl demand their rights. A farmer in China couldn't be more free according to libertarianism but it's not what he is looking for; it's democracy and true freedom.
Humans created societies for the common good. Why would a dictator give up his rule meanwhile libertarians simply go about minding their 'own business'?
makelle 1 year ago
Listen, the only way a government will ever work is if everyone becomes a "good person".
Evil people are attracted to the power of government like flies to shit, can't you see it everywhere around you, in every country? Evil people want power and government is where they get it.
Government has been tried the world over and has failed. I don't want to impose my independence from government on everyone, but don't impose your government on me if I refuse to consent, and we'll all be happy.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago 2
There won't be any Mag-lev in this country as long as the government subsidizes the roads.
What we have to let go of is the idea that the government is legitimate and it has authority over us.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago
CorrosionX3: You are either a shill or an idiot!
LaRoucheisright 3 years ago
I think you are a shill and an idiot for doubting me. I have no use for men and women using guns against innocent people and calling themselves "government". We will either have a voluntary society or no society at all.
CorrosionX3 3 years ago
Well done, very informative I will share this!
IvoryGuru 3 years ago
great movie. 5 stars.
KevZen2000 3 years ago 2