Doctor Who: The Trial of a Time Lord: Alternate Ending

[ReverendSyn]

So basically we know how the Doctor is going to end up.He will turn evil and become the Vaqleyard.

So basically theres no point in watching, since we know how the DOctor is going to turn out now.

[rojblake82]

I think it was disgusting in billions of ways, that poor Colin Baker was ousted from the role but if he had not been he would have only got five seasons as the doctor. It would have been because the show was axed for a long time, and I would rather the show end with Colin than Sylvester who I could not stand.

[scarface12347]

@rojblake82 well he got fat and he was a dark doctor...possibly as dark as smith.

[rojblake82]

@scarface12347 I think Colin should have been cast, as Blake in Blake's Seven ad Colin would have been billions of times better as Blake than Gareth Thomas.

[rojblake82]

@scarface12347 I think Colin was ace in Blake's Seven as Bayban and he should, have been cast as Blake instead of Gareth Thomas who had no staying power at all.

[JerryTheDoc]

And Colin dies with a bump on his head from the TARDIS console... into my fav of classic doctors! *so there's a bright side anyhow*

[TheStopmoCo]

@JerryTheDoc Praise the lord! Someone else who likes Mccoy too! :D

[JerryTheDoc]

@TheStopmoCo Thanks. :) My fav doctor s are from McCoy to Smith. They've had all of my fav adventures out of the 11. :)

[KingLofiOne]

Everybody knows carotene is lethal to Time Lords,  but out of a speck of the courageousness that carried over from his last incarnation, the Doctor took it, like Socrates. :-D

[doctorwhosuperfan11]

that's so wierd

[kellyarch]

Sadako 24: "Time and the Rani" Began, Sylvester McCoy's part as the 7th doctor. There were reasons behind why Colin Baker had been replaced by Sylvester McCoy, but I can't remember them. On another note, I not only met Sylvester Mccoy, but had A LONG chat with him. He is a really nice guy! :)

[kellyarch]

Sadako24: The scene were the doctor and Mel fade out and it shows the keeper and the scene were the tardis is forced to land are to completely different shows. The first is the Trial of a Time lord, the second with the Rani another show that beings the show "Time and the Rani" (More)

[Borusa1976]

@kellyarch I met both..... sadly the bbc in 1986 was very anti-DW and only gave the ok to the 1986 season to keep the fans happy after the 1985 hiatis... Anyway, the ratings wasn't good (opposite the huge A-team) and the BBC gave the ok for 1987 if Colin was replaced... It was classic they got rid of the actor that wanted to stay and kept the producer that wanted to move onto other things..... Anyway, Colin never hated Syl - it was a case of the Doc taken from Colin and given to Syl by BBC.

[MFPhoto1]

@Borusa1976 I always tought the ratings for the Colin Baker series were not that good because the scripts totally sucked. Well, not all of them. There were a few pretty good episodes, but most of the episodes were well below the standards of the past.  Trial of a Time Lord was downright confusing. Plus the first Colin Baker episode did not present his Doctor in a very good light.

Baker unjustly got the blame for the series failing. The scripts for Sylvester McCoy were not any better.

[GenghisKhan44]

You know that 1987 music really clashes with the ToaTL music...

[matthwe3468]

Makes Loads more sence

[sanjouindacapo]

Can't see why he'd let that bitch Melanie push him around. I detest people who do that because honestly... what would you do if some person just waltzed into your place and started telling you how to live your life? Mel should've been chucked onto the nearest habitable planet with plenty of carrots to plant.

[immunity]

Did Colin Baker put on weight over the 4 years?

[69blinds]

This is wrong, The doctor regenerates after The Vermoids story ending. After the Trial, They actually go to The Vermoids Story.

[thatenglishkid]

Or not.

It could've just been a "potential future" he picked from the Matrix. After all, if the courtroom sees that the Doctor goes free, then it renders the whole trial pointless. Unless the Time Lords send him on a mission of some sort, but then it gets all stupid and unneccesary. Plus, time can be changed in different ways.

[00jostan]

they cant go to the vervoids story after the ending of trial, coz mel already knows all tht happens in it when they bring her in as a witness.

the doctor prob takes her back to wherever she went with glitz after dragonfire and then he goes off and eventually meets up with her and they have the vervoids adventure.

at the time of the end of trial the vervoids is in the doctors future, but mels past.

[ctrl450]

i owned the two doctors and it was was stupid

[heyarnoldsknee]

Liar

[foxster1307]

i agree how abput they change it so the tractor beam still hits and mel is seen on the floor then a beam cuts right through and zaps th doctor causing him to hit his head and throwing him to the floor then the tardis lands the sound of the door opening is still heard but all that is heard after that is the music and the rani saying as the creauter turns over the doctor "take him to my laboratary " and thedoctor is shown regenerating but the face of the 7th

doctor isnt shown because of credits

[GlitzGlitz]

I completely disagree. That is the whole point of the cliffhanger.

[BrotherJosephus]

anyone reckon that the Valeyard 'cliffhanger' will be taken up eventually in the new series (Michael Jayston is still alive), although it was taken up in the novels.

[TigerTiger83]

I TOTALLY AGREE with you and look at who the 11th doctor looks a little like.

[theomegadevice]

This is a realy good video.

I wonder if anyone is going to re make the 'real' endning to Trial Of A Time Lord

Where the doctor(s) fall into a gap in time and the cliff hanger has Mel saying that she know's the Doctor must survive.

It would have been a wicked ending but I can understand why they never done it!

[torchwood10]

lol the first 5 seconds

[AlabastyrGlyttr]

Research your Doctor Who continuity and you will find the Sixth Doctor had a good few adventures in between trial of a timelord and time and and the Rani

[elixaristhedragon]

wrong! there was none

[AlabastyrGlyttr]

No i'm not talking about Television episodes i'm talking about Books Comics and Audio adventures.

[LightningT5]

What I like about John Nathen-Turner in 1986 and 1987 is what he dressed Mel in a different costume, Blue in Episode 14 Trial of a Timelord and Pink in Episode 1 of Time and the Rant, this means more off-screen adventures did take place between the 2 serials, Nevertheless in was completely injust dismissing Colin Maker, I do like Sylvester McCoy better, but I would have liked to have seen more from Colin Baker.

[HeyArnoldsspleen]

Read "Time's Champion" for a LEGIT tie-in to TATR

[doctorwhom01]

As much as I like this I still think that the Valeyard cackling at the nd is a brilliant ending

[neemz2000]

The original (original) ending by Robert Holmes, which had the Doctor and the Valeyard locked in battle in the Matrix, would have been even better. Sadly it was vetoed by the astonishing untalented producer, the late (and not missed) JNT.

[mabakiel666]

That's a wee bit harsh...

[upchuck69]

The problem with the original Robert Holmes ending would be that the BBC could have used it as an excuse to can the show then and there and there would have been no more Dr. Who. I'm not a JNT fan either and I didn't like the TOATL ending but he may have made the right move by going with the wimpy ending as it kept the door open to keep the series going.

[robhardy]

The original ending was actually written by Eric Saward as Robert Holmes sadly died before he could finish the story. I've found the script for Saward's version on the internet, and having read it I definitely prefer the "wimpy" ending, as Saward's conclusion just isn't satisfactory, with the Master left laughing in triumph, and the Time Lords quietly relieved that both the Doctor and the Valyard, two inconvenient witnesses, have been removed! All a bit too cynical for a family series!

[elixaristhedragon]

oh, im sorry, have you produced doctor who?

no!, then shut up

[LightningT5]

This version of advents would have been far better than what did happen, it's rarther upsetting really, personally I would have found a backstory to how no 6 regenerated better

[DarthBombshell]

If you're looking for that, go find and read "Spiral Scratch."

[dutchycooper]

Mel mustve changed pretty fast, she's wearing blue when they leave and pink when they are attacked!

[PeterDavison1982]

I Remember that regeneration

[tardiselliot]

nice way to properly finish colin bakers era off

only issue is it doesnt leave the gap for is other adventures that take place in the audios etc

where colin really got a decent chance to leave an impression

[KaFaraqGatri]

Got to agree there. He shone in the BF Audio Adventures.

[mrshushie]

Totally, BFP go some way to restoring justice after the way Col was treated.

[Bronasaxon]

I love the bit where the Keeper turnes around and you find out he's the Valeyard...hope we see him again one day.

[TARDISGirl78]

thanks for posting this. i am a doctor who fan. as you can tell by my id.

Melissa

[Bond8789]

I think I read somewhere that the Doctor hit his head on the console causing the regeneration. I like what you did with the Scrapyards laugh, very sinister.

[AidanLunn]

I rather think it was the carrot juice ("aaaaw. Carrot juice?") combined with the fact that Melanie always acts as an annoying, over-bearing, over-protective mother that caused the regeneration!

[Bronasaxon]

Probably!

[sadako24]

Still never figured out why an attack on the Tardis makes the Doctor regenerate but only knocks Mel out.

I think it was carrot juice poisoning, really.

[DarthBombshell]

Read "Spiral Scratch."

[AidanLunn]

maybe it was that carrot juice.

remember he said an aspirin could kill him in Mind of Evil?, well maybe he has a similar reaction to carrot juice but just didn't know it

[riaminal]

@sadako24 have you also noticed mel changed clothes pretty quickly

[teddyboyrebel]

cool concept

[nick2s]

Nice going. You know what? I think that they should of done the regeneration at the end. 5 out of 5.

[Ashworth6]

Well, ordinarily they would have. But Colin Baker's abrupt sacking from the show and his subsequent refusal to film a regeneration story for the BBC made this impossible. Still a good edit though.

[nick2s]

THEY SHOULD OF NOT SACKED HIM!! I know already that he was sacked. But if you read Spiral Scratch....

[all13Doctors]

i'll second to thirteenth that! I honestly think that if Colin had continued on for a few more years but was still followed by Sylvester, the show would never have been canned!

[GlitzGlitz]

What is Spiral Scratch? Is it a book that explains this?

[Auxtran]

SPOILERS: In Spiral Scratch, the Doctor is badly injured by chronon energy and his regeneration was already in progress when the Rani attacked the TARDIS.

[GlitzGlitz]

Great! So it is a book then? Comic? Fan Fiction?

[Auxtran]

It's a book

[tardiselliot]

yeah its a book

u should give all the BBC licenced doctor who books ago

they provide some good stories an explinations for characters like the 6th doctor

Roger delegados master

n the eight doctor era

[doctorwho295]

No, it's a regular book. I didn't read it, but the ending....

[rojblake82]

@nick2s Sacking Colin was wrong in billions of ways, and I agree he should have been allowed to carry on longer but there you are.

[silverdaleks1]

very Good 5/5

[FresnoTimeLord]

Interesting fitting The Two Adventures!

They go well together!

[GlitzGlitz]

I particularly liked how you cut all the extra stuff that we just dont need. And the sound editing is great!!!!

[frankiewilliams]

Interesting.