i met alan when he was with uk...but his sound and playing is so distinct i think all the kudos go to Tony Williams...this is where alan came alive and later into his own...Tony was some drummer...i loved his style..he was simply a drummer that was great at playing jazz..but wanted to play rock loud and fucking clear so all could hear...this is the essence of tony i feel deep down inside...
He could play any style of music but you always knew when you heard it , it was Tony. His playing transcended style. It was just pure musicality. This is a true artist.
@jamesedwardtheobald nahh maybe you just did not understand it...Maybe you should do what i do.When i hear something i don't like from a giant in music i don't go telling people that it sucks but i first think for a second that i just might have not understood it.And besides Allan Holdsworth of the 70's has nothing to do with Allan Holdsworth in the 80's and present.In the late 70's he totally reinvented himself.
@PetarAtanasov87 oh hah, i am sure allan would really hate this recording, seeing that he usually hates most of his playing! i understand allan's playing very well, have listened to all his albums compulsively over the years, and i am also a very knowledgeable player myself. he is slightly out of tune here and flubs some notes, you can hear him 'searching' instead of really playing, and that's fine because that's allan and that's why we all love him. he's a nice guy to boot, met him thrice...
@PetarAtanasov87 yes, definite agreement about the latter half of your post. i tend to think he really came into 'his own' with the second bruford album. then another notch with IOU... i saw him at the baked potato recently and sat two feet away from him! heh, and he had an OFF nite, he forgot how to play FRED,of all pieces and he apologized out loud at the end of his solo, which was full of clunkers, but he was pissed at the drummer, who was a half hour late to the gig! had a fun chat with him
i love tony williams..I mean i never rmet him but i love his playing..i really think he wanted to play rock and loved rck for what he could bring to it..to me he was a rock drummer (smile) yes i know he played jazz too..:O) i loved his rock but can learn from his jazz
Not as early as the Jack Bruce version. Funnily enuff, it sounds like my 1975 band, Soft Edges, playing it! We weren't quite the same caliber as these guys but we did pretty well compared to the sound here. I wish I had some old recordings ..... Lifetime was the forerunner of the progressive metal we hear today. Way ahead of it's time.
Forgotten because you never were exposed to this music because you were too busy to know, you lost your history.
But any Jazz aficionado, old and current to that supposed time of discovery new of Fusion, Miles, BeBop, etc. etc.
Hip Hop did NOT save anything. In accurate truth - it destroyed and replaced valuable popular genres like Soul and real R&B and even FUNK. HH did not breath life into anything.
Prince did hardcore FUNK and kept it alive with The Funk Bible, the last great Funk album.
Amazing! I am late with the Lifetime band.They had such a strong, funky and intelliegent sound which influenced alot of hiphop that came out in the 90s and the 00s.
@chronwell What?! Influenced hip hop of the 90's and 00's???
Hip hoppers of that time didn't know what a b flat major was, let alone who Tony Williams was. Please. HIp Hop was not based on a musical genre but based on finding and sampling snippets of beats and then rapping over them.. c'mon. I was there. I know.
@wendileona Yup we sampled the funk and the jazz thathad been forgotten.Guys like Tony Williams and James Brown are my/our grandfathers and uncles in the black musical universe. Yes we sampled to make something new outta something old and forgotten. We took the ghost of old made collages and new pictures with them. The grooves U hear in hiphop are the same ones we heard in our parent's cars or at their parties. We breathed life into the funk in the 80s, 90s and 00s. U welcome.
i met alan when he was with uk...but his sound and playing is so distinct i think all the kudos go to Tony Williams...this is where alan came alive and later into his own...Tony was some drummer...i loved his style..he was simply a drummer that was great at playing jazz..but wanted to play rock loud and fucking clear so all could hear...this is the essence of tony i feel deep down inside...
TheTayedrums 4 months ago
In my estimation, Tony was the most complete Jazz drummer who ever occupied the throne.
Unmatched.
Easleytee 7 months ago 2
@Easleytee: Absolutely! NOBODY ever came close to doing what Tony did.
jonsilence 7 months ago
He could play any style of music but you always knew when you heard it , it was Tony. His playing transcended style. It was just pure musicality. This is a true artist.
331paradiddle 8 months ago
had to laugh at the comments here. this music had zilch to do with hip hop. period.
jamesedwardtheobald 11 months ago
@jamesedwardtheobald hah, horrible solo by allan H, glad to hear he is human sometimes. alan pasqua is always good..
jamesedwardtheobald 11 months ago
@jamesedwardtheobald nahh maybe you just did not understand it...Maybe you should do what i do.When i hear something i don't like from a giant in music i don't go telling people that it sucks but i first think for a second that i just might have not understood it.And besides Allan Holdsworth of the 70's has nothing to do with Allan Holdsworth in the 80's and present.In the late 70's he totally reinvented himself.
PetarAtanasov87 10 months ago
@PetarAtanasov87 oh hah, i am sure allan would really hate this recording, seeing that he usually hates most of his playing! i understand allan's playing very well, have listened to all his albums compulsively over the years, and i am also a very knowledgeable player myself. he is slightly out of tune here and flubs some notes, you can hear him 'searching' instead of really playing, and that's fine because that's allan and that's why we all love him. he's a nice guy to boot, met him thrice...
jamesedwardtheobald 5 months ago
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jamesedwardtheobald 5 months ago
@PetarAtanasov87 yes, definite agreement about the latter half of your post. i tend to think he really came into 'his own' with the second bruford album. then another notch with IOU... i saw him at the baked potato recently and sat two feet away from him! heh, and he had an OFF nite, he forgot how to play FRED,of all pieces and he apologized out loud at the end of his solo, which was full of clunkers, but he was pissed at the drummer, who was a half hour late to the gig! had a fun chat with him
jamesedwardtheobald 5 months ago
i love tony williams..I mean i never rmet him but i love his playing..i really think he wanted to play rock and loved rck for what he could bring to it..to me he was a rock drummer (smile) yes i know he played jazz too..:O) i loved his rock but can learn from his jazz
TheTayedrums 11 months ago
Not as early as the Jack Bruce version. Funnily enuff, it sounds like my 1975 band, Soft Edges, playing it! We weren't quite the same caliber as these guys but we did pretty well compared to the sound here. I wish I had some old recordings ..... Lifetime was the forerunner of the progressive metal we hear today. Way ahead of it's time.
Muso57 11 months ago
Forgotten because you never were exposed to this music because you were too busy to know, you lost your history.
But any Jazz aficionado, old and current to that supposed time of discovery new of Fusion, Miles, BeBop, etc. etc.
Hip Hop did NOT save anything. In accurate truth - it destroyed and replaced valuable popular genres like Soul and real R&B and even FUNK. HH did not breath life into anything.
Prince did hardcore FUNK and kept it alive with The Funk Bible, the last great Funk album.
wendileona 1 year ago
Yes amazing!!! I agree with you 100 percent. :)
69cohonas 1 year ago
Amazing! I am late with the Lifetime band.They had such a strong, funky and intelliegent sound which influenced alot of hiphop that came out in the 90s and the 00s.
chronwell 1 year ago
@chronwell What?! Influenced hip hop of the 90's and 00's???
Hip hoppers of that time didn't know what a b flat major was, let alone who Tony Williams was. Please. HIp Hop was not based on a musical genre but based on finding and sampling snippets of beats and then rapping over them.. c'mon. I was there. I know.
wendileona 1 year ago
@wendileona Yup we sampled the funk and the jazz thathad been forgotten.Guys like Tony Williams and James Brown are my/our grandfathers and uncles in the black musical universe. Yes we sampled to make something new outta something old and forgotten. We took the ghost of old made collages and new pictures with them. The grooves U hear in hiphop are the same ones we heard in our parent's cars or at their parties. We breathed life into the funk in the 80s, 90s and 00s. U welcome.
chronwell 1 year ago