How was a vote for Nader a vote for Bush? Nader got 97,000 votes in Florida and Bush got 250,000 democrats to vote for him. The Democrats need to ask why didn't Gore get those votes? Every voter has a constitutional right to vote for the candidate of their choice! The Democrats have 72 million registered voters to Republicans 55 million, so Democrats should win easily, in a Presidential race if they give the people a good Choice. 2008 Nader gets more votes from McCain than Obama! BailOut!!!
All the fucking losers who won't vote for McKinney/Clemente or Nader/Gonzalez are just giving their vote to anti-gay pseudo-libertarian Bob Barr.
NOBODY has a moral right to criticize or condemn ANY politician or political cause which does NOT have a lot of power. Meat-industry, meat-eaters - they got NOTHING to complain about. They deserve to be raped and killed. HILARIOUS when they died in 911. They LOVED burning up.
I hate to crap on your parade. But in Germany there are two major parties and then special interest groups that help tip the two big guys one way or another.
CSU/CDU and the SPD. It's pretty much the same stupid thing we have here, with the Ron Pauls and the Nadars.... amongst other special interest Bullmoose types.
Thanks for the input though.
ps. There are 7 "major" listed political parties... though I assume you bunched northern and southern Christian-(Republican) type together.
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a vote for nader in 2000 was a vote for bush: killing of 1000000 iraqi and 4000 americans and the miserable fallout of generations of the families of the dead. a vote for nader in 2008 is a vote for mc cain and continued mindless killing. in terms of age, reagan was quite old and he had alzeimer's by the end.
Nader is responsible for the war in Iraq and all of the Bush legislation. He handed the election to Bush in 2000. If it weren't for Nader, Gore would be fighting global warming instead of Bush fighting in Iraq. Gore lost by 512 votes in Florida where Nader received over 90,000. This is all his fault. He needs to get over himself and realize that he has no chance of winning the election, nor a single state, he doesn't even have a chance of getting the 3% he's been chasing for 12 years.
lol, what a strange nonsense. bush is responsible for all the dead people of of course not another candidate. if you say such strange things, you can also forbid democracy, because no one can accede.
Why mention his age? Do you talk about how old Hillary is or Child Obama Hussan are? I have problems when some news reporter tells us what Nader says. You have the resources to put here the video where he said anything.
Until we have a system where every individual vote counts as one, there is no legitimate voting process. A Nader vote should not be the same as a vote to either party by illimination. Electoral college is a scam, not real and unconstitutional. In a Democracy, all votes count. The US needs to practice what it preaches. not fenagle the rules for convenience.
It's so refreshing when folks can just exchange ideas without making personal attacks & evaluations, such as, telling someone why they said what they said. What kind of stupid mess is that? Someone trying to play Psychology. This is Current Affairs, not Psych 101
They need to have a maximum age requirement to run for Prez.Like 60. 73 is just to old. Nader is a real Nut & he clearly caused Gore the Presidency. And the numbers are right there to prove it. No Question.
I would't even consider Nader when it's b/c of him that we are at War, have the Stupiest Prez in the history of the U.S. & have an economy that sucks. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And I ain't shamin'
You can't really say he caused Gore the presidency. It's a free country anyone can run. There would be no point in putting an age limite, particularly since you would only want it to avoid him running couldn't run.
I like that when Nader speaks I feel like he is speaking from his heart and his mind and that he cares about this country and has the know-how to run it as President. He isn't a puppet. I would vote for him again. Even if I know he won't win.
All of this debate about third party candidates doesn't make Ralph Nader any less of an asshole.The G.R.E.E.N party is a huge joke and I am not laughing especially when I look at the election numbers of 2000, and the republicans funding him in 2004 and that big hole in the ground in lower manhattan because we elected an incompetent George Bush. Nader makes a profit every time he runs for president. He is a corporate non profit millionaire.
Whoa. What are you talking about? Gore would have lost anyway, You're so misinformed. Get your head out of your ass. Nader is not a millionaire, and doesn't profit off of running!
Obama is a shit politican. We need Nader to run to press the issues.
Please, educate yourself. It's obvious you've been sucked into the blackhole of the mass-media.
listen, ellen, nader is the hook, the slight of hand of the electoral college. he has no chance of winning anything but the election for the republicans. he steels democratic votes. gore lost by 500 votes in florida. nader took 90,000 in florida. that was the election. hes a puppet for the republican party.
Please. If anything the democrats are puppets of the republican party. Gore took more votes away from Nader than Nader took from Gore. Who's the spoiler here? We live in a two party dictatorship that's owned by corporations. Nader is a hero for running and bringing up important issues.
Doesn't sound like ellen loves everything. look at the year 2000 vote results. Please inform me with any information that refutes the fact that Nader spoiled Gore's chances or the fact that Nader took campaign contributions from republicans. Nader is a millionaire as a result of these selfish runs for president. G.R.E.E.N means guaranteed republican election every november. I have no respect for Nader. Google Republican contributions to Ralph Nader.What an American Hero.
I would like to see evidence of Nader being a CFR member or even being influenced by them in his decision making. I never heard that before and I would be quite dismayed to find that is truth
good god nader will you stop screwing the american public? do we really have to live through you f***ing up another general election? please stop giving these elections to the republicans!
You may not support a presidental run but the personal attacks posted here are sickening. He is a hero and icon who has spent every minute of his adult life and every penny of his own money working to improve quality of life for average Americans. His character is impecible. You show the flaws in yours as well as your ignorance of corporate culture and the history of consumer advocacy by calling him "retarded" or "slime". He has probably saved you or someone in your family's life with his work!
that have been killed in the Iraq War, not to mentios the thousands that have been maimed.
And he definitely caused it b/c if he hadn't run, Gore would have been Prez & we wouldn't be in this nightmare, the War, the Killings, the terrible Economy, etc
But don't you also think the 100,000+ dead Irakis are worth mentioning aswell? Not to mention a fucked up country that isn't going to get any better whoever wins this election?
Vote Democrat or Republican in 2008, and lets give legitimacy to these laws and acts, by voting for one of the 3 leading candidates whom ALL voted for or supported these actions.
Nader is just a hack,trying to stay in publics eye.Why else would you even think about him?Oh yea,he saved america from the evil corvair.Ralph,just go away.
Its nice to see others standing up and giving the American people a choice. He is a raging liberal and a great choice for an Independent candidate. Good luck Mr. Nader.- Impeach Bush!
Go Ron Paul!!! Become intelligent by being informed- WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!!!
You say your patriotic. You would not fund the troops. Sounds to me like you are nothing more than surrender monkeys. Maybe he should run for French Pres.
You'd have made a great Nazi because they also believed that patriotism equated to blindly supporting war at any costs. Then again, you're probably just a pathetic chickenhawk.
I'm not patriotic at all. I could careless about the people who died in 9/11. More people die in America from lack of Health-care or from job related illnesses than 9/11. The terrorist only live in your mind. Terrorist are ideas or thoughts implanted in your minds to fear everyone who is not American. 9/11 is a joke that the ultra-rich class played on the dumb undereducated American. Check the story about "Put Options" placed on 9/11 airlines and businesses at the World Trade Center before 9/11.
YES YES I know who I will vote for. To bad that the media will sabatoge him. Last time he ran he couldn't get ANY coverage. If people think they REALLY have a choice they are very wrong! With Obama spending 5 times as much as Hillary one needs to ask where is he getting the money from? Special interest?
Typical that I won't take your bait, JohnWroclaw, and promote your specious debating point? Well, it's been fun but I'm a little weary of being dismissed and besides I have a job. Good luck with your candidate.
I wonder how many Righties will contribute to the Nader campaign. After all, his candidacy does more for them than it does for the rest of us. It is sad that President Clinton has grown so nasty in his later years as evidenced by some of his remarks in the primary campaign. And now Nader is another sad old man whose previously noble legacy is crumbling. It's not about you Ralph, no matter how much you claim it's about good government. It's your overblown ego that's the problem.
Its the message. If you want the status quo, you have that right. However there are others that are tired of the same old BS. Its not enough to talk about it, we need people who will actually start the process.
Thanks for your reply JohnWroclaw, but I respectfully disagree about your characterization of those who don't support Nader as settling for the status quo. And there's plenty of BS to go around. Nader claimed the idealist role before, and no matter how much he would deny it, the truth is that his candidacy helped to give the world this criminal and despotic administration that we have borne in shame for 7 years. I'm grateful to Nader for so many things but this campaign belies a messiah complex.
I agree Bush was a huge mistake, but Nader is not too blame. People should vote their conscience and not follow party lines. That is the true problem here. If you vote Democratic or Republican you are supporting the status quo. I am not convinced that Gore would of saved the world. What would he have done after 911, who knows? Probably not much different, since almost all Democrats supported the war. Obama did not, but he has failed since and followed party line.
JohnWroclaw, I'm afraid your repeated opinion that "If you vote Democratic or Republican you are supporting the status quo." is quite arrogant, judgmental and simply not true. How can you presume to know what is in the heart or mind of everyone who disagrees with you and Nader, or do you just assume we don't have a mind? You have just made my point beautifully about Nader. Thank you for summing it up so well.
Nader did not give Bush the majority in 2004. Most of the country supported the war, before it started to fall apart. Its our fault not Naders. I dont support Nader, but I appreciate his passion for a better way, and would never want a voice for the people censored behind the false believe of that if you vote for him you are throwing your vote away. This collectivism of the Dems and Rep, are the real root cause of our current situation. WHy have the Dems not impeached Bush?
Check out Grandfather Bush or Great Grandfather Bush. Prescott Bush (grandfather) was doing business with the Nazi Party in Germany up until 1942. Check it out and decide for yourself. Bush is an international terrorist of and for the corporate fascist elite. He has committed War Crimes and the whole world knows about it. Only the undereducated American cannot think outside the box.
Nader's job is running for President. He's been doing this thing for the last 20 years. He asks for donations and pays himself a salary from those funds to hold him over until the next election rolls around.
If he was truly serious, he would have tried to retain some credibility. But, after helping get George W. Bush re-elected in 2004, I don't know anyone who cares a whit about Nader, anymore.
He's made himself a pathetic footnote to history when he could have been much more.
I love all the Democrats and Republicans who try to tell us not to waste or votes on people who want to chage our corrpt political system. They actually think there is a real difference between Obama and McCain. NewFlash. There is no difference. Go Nader, GO Paul. Elect change for a change
Seiku, Thanks for your response. However, you will notice if you read my post that I didn't speak up for anyone's candidacy. So if you are accusing me of spamming for a candidate, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Forgive me if I misunderstood the meaning of your response.
Oh no its okay, I just wanted to add to the list. Every spammer in general is annoying to me. I support Paul but I hate spammers too :>. Sometimes when I see a VOTE FOR PAUL HOPE FOR BLAH BLAH I hit the spam button (I didnt need or read youtube spam to hear about Paul). Also I think mostly the 'unsure' voters might go for Nader, Pauls still technically in the race just very very silent lol.
Every 4 years, Nader plays this game. He finds just enough gullible people to donate money to him, then he disappears with a pocket full of cash until the next election. Stop falling for this scam unless you want McCain to be the next president.
Listen, I understand that many of you are idealists. Thats great and occasionally I am myself. However this election is extremely important. In 2000 Nader indirectly put Bush in the Whitehouse. Please PLEASE don't let Mccain in the Whitehouse because you want to make a statement. Just wait a few years.
4 Wise Men march with the people Washington DC Whistle-blowers Honesty compassion intelligence guts Not carrots sticks coercive diplomacy Divided we fall Mike Gravel Dennis Kucinich Ron Paul Ralph Nader No bribery blackmail extortion
I've never understood why this guy thinks he's such an attractive candidate, that he keeps running over and over. Well, I guess, you gotta leave an old man alone with his obsessions.
Nader's a bit quirky, but when I listen to him talk I get the impression he's driven by a love for the US and invests himself in defending it with passion.
When I hear the other candidates speak, I hear people that seem more driven by personal ambition than by a desire to restore the country's dignity.
Too soon to judge. But it's a good thing Nader's pertinent questions will be publicized and debated. Enough of the pathetic political phoniness we're subjected to.
I vote green up here in Canada, in a very conservative city nonetheless. I consider myself very green, very fair trade, and all that. But I'm also a realist. This election should be about everybody ganging up on the republicans, forcing them from power, ending the war on terror, dismantling the department of homeland security, repairing the economy of the USA, and restoring your shitty image around the world. Just because you CAN run, dosn't mean you should.
Every 4 years, Nader plays this game. He finds just enough gullible people to donate money to him, then he disappears with a pocket full of cash until the next election. Stop falling for this scam unless you want McCain to be the next president.
I like how people think that only Republicans and Democrats are allowed to become president. The party system has destroyed the country. If the democrats think they are so strong and stand for what the people truly want, then they have nothing to fear. I think though the real reason they hate Nader is because they are weaker then they portray themselves.
Even George Washington believed that the party system would corrupt the country.
Nader is a pathetic egomaniac that has caused more harm to progressive movements in this country than any other single individual. He has discredited the Green Party already, and now is trying to prevent Obama from forming a working bipartisan movement in Washington. Ralph, please stop this nonsense and let this country heal from the damage you have already caused. Go use your millions to retire and let us start making real progress.
nader has never stopped fighting for progressive causes. if you're going to blame someone for the straits we're in then blame the Democratic party for abandoning their principles and surrendering to special interests. if Gore wasn't such a coward and differentiated himself more from Bush by taking up these issues (instead of attending fancy $10,000 a plate dinners for his corporate backers) this whole Bush nightmare would have never happened. you have no one to blame but yourselves liberals!
What an ego. Nader, please don't do this to your country. Find some other forum for your beliefs. This country cannot survive 4 more or anymore years of Republican rule. I used to respect you..
You vote stealing bastard. You cant possibly win, all you can do is once again steal votes from politicians who really could make a difference. I may love your politics but your a senile old fool, and a disgrace to your own ideals. Disgusting.
Be careful. On of this times he'll get in and achieve world-domination. Bwhaha!!
......yeah......probably not.
ob1benji1 2 years ago
How was a vote for Nader a vote for Bush? Nader got 97,000 votes in Florida and Bush got 250,000 democrats to vote for him. The Democrats need to ask why didn't Gore get those votes? Every voter has a constitutional right to vote for the candidate of their choice! The Democrats have 72 million registered voters to Republicans 55 million, so Democrats should win easily, in a Presidential race if they give the people a good Choice. 2008 Nader gets more votes from McCain than Obama! BailOut!!!
sand517 3 years ago
All the fucking losers who won't vote for McKinney/Clemente or Nader/Gonzalez are just giving their vote to anti-gay pseudo-libertarian Bob Barr.
NOBODY has a moral right to criticize or condemn ANY politician or political cause which does NOT have a lot of power. Meat-industry, meat-eaters - they got NOTHING to complain about. They deserve to be raped and killed. HILARIOUS when they died in 911. They LOVED burning up.
j97hou6 3 years ago
Please kill yourself Ralph.
phsyb56 3 years ago
in germany we have 5 parties now, christ democracy, social democracy, left party, "the greens" and the liberal party. (in descending order, by votes)
so its much better that the u.s. have 3 or more parties in his government.
greets (i wrote this twice)
DeinKoenig 3 years ago 4
I hate to crap on your parade. But in Germany there are two major parties and then special interest groups that help tip the two big guys one way or another.
CSU/CDU and the SPD. It's pretty much the same stupid thing we have here, with the Ron Pauls and the Nadars.... amongst other special interest Bullmoose types.
Thanks for the input though.
ps. There are 7 "major" listed political parties... though I assume you bunched northern and southern Christian-(Republican) type together.
sorryitookthisname2 3 years ago
spd is not that big and the others are big enough:
infratest-dimap. de
DeinKoenig 3 years ago
Yeah but you're being run by the Christ Democracy.
billygowhoop 2 years ago
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a vote for nader in 2000 was a vote for bush: killing of 1000000 iraqi and 4000 americans and the miserable fallout of generations of the families of the dead. a vote for nader in 2008 is a vote for mc cain and continued mindless killing. in terms of age, reagan was quite old and he had alzeimer's by the end.
jallenfrance 3 years ago
he actually just turned 74! this would make him the oldest 1st term president in history. give it a rest nader. what the hell do you hope to prove?
talk about an ego maniac.
kolauson 3 years ago
Keep your light shining ...change is here ..!
rainbowmatrixs 3 years ago
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Why? Nader, please... NO. Please stop it, it's getting really old. Really REALLY OLD. Seriously. No more, Ralph. Stop. Stop now.
billzabka 3 years ago
Nader is responsible for the war in Iraq and all of the Bush legislation. He handed the election to Bush in 2000. If it weren't for Nader, Gore would be fighting global warming instead of Bush fighting in Iraq. Gore lost by 512 votes in Florida where Nader received over 90,000. This is all his fault. He needs to get over himself and realize that he has no chance of winning the election, nor a single state, he doesn't even have a chance of getting the 3% he's been chasing for 12 years.
paulzosa 3 years ago
lol, what a strange nonsense. bush is responsible for all the dead people of of course not another candidate. if you say such strange things, you can also forbid democracy, because no one can accede.
"the lesser of the two evils" does not work.
DeinKoenig 3 years ago
Why mention his age? Do you talk about how old Hillary is or Child Obama Hussan are? I have problems when some news reporter tells us what Nader says. You have the resources to put here the video where he said anything.
Dallouez 3 years ago
NADER + VP
12 noon ET / Thur. 28 FEB 08
gravel kucinich paul nader
Truth Time.
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RALPH !
Thanks for entering the race - now we have a voice again.
Kold2market 3 years ago
If Senator Obama proposed "instant run-offs," I wonder if Ralph Nader would drop-out.
zideaz 3 years ago
Until we have a system where every individual vote counts as one, there is no legitimate voting process. A Nader vote should not be the same as a vote to either party by illimination. Electoral college is a scam, not real and unconstitutional. In a Democracy, all votes count. The US needs to practice what it preaches. not fenagle the rules for convenience.
oldphoque 3 years ago
i agree
nomorals18 3 years ago
The truth about Obama, Clinton, McCain and Huckabee:
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For more info, watch "Zeitgeist" at zeitgeistmovieDOTcom
freedomsadvocate07 3 years ago
I was going to vote for Edwards, and then I was going to vote for Obama, but you can only guess whom I'm going to vote for now.
(*hint, not McCain/Clinton)
YawnGod 3 years ago 2
Idiots like you are the reason we have Bush as a president and therefore the reason we are in Iraq. Don't waste your vote.
paulzosa 3 years ago
Do you know how fucking happy I will be if McCain becomes president! I was doing circles when Bush was voted into his second term.
Nothing pleases me more than having America screw itself over, especially when I don't live there anymore.
YawnGod 3 years ago
Do you know how fucking happy I will be if McCain becomes president! I was doing circles when Bush was voted into his second term.
Nothing pleases me more than having America screw itself over, especially when I don't live there anymore.
YawnGod 3 years ago
AlexKsak
If you are going to post, you need to learn some manners. And I didn't curse, so don't curse me.
IamNeutral 3 years ago
It's so refreshing when folks can just exchange ideas without making personal attacks & evaluations, such as, telling someone why they said what they said. What kind of stupid mess is that? Someone trying to play Psychology. This is Current Affairs, not Psych 101
IamNeutral 3 years ago
Place your VOTE ON RESEARCH. Be SMART America and NOT biased. Don't listen to opinions. USE YOUR MIND... AND THINK.
FYI: Request a paper ballot when you go to vote. Diebold voting machines can easily be hacked. Princeton University has proven it.
moparmuscle1970 3 years ago
YouTube video: "Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws"
watch?v=aZws98jw67g
moparmuscle1970 3 years ago
They need to have a maximum age requirement to run for Prez.Like 60. 73 is just to old. Nader is a real Nut & he clearly caused Gore the Presidency. And the numbers are right there to prove it. No Question.
IamNeutral 3 years ago
I would't even consider Nader when it's b/c of him that we are at War, have the Stupiest Prez in the history of the U.S. & have an economy that sucks. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And I ain't shamin'
IamNeutral 3 years ago
Well if the democrates want to win maybe they should understand why they lost because of him.
"The three major candidates are too close to big business"
It's because he's right on some points that people vote for him.
AlexKsak 3 years ago
You can't really say he caused Gore the presidency. It's a free country anyone can run. There would be no point in putting an age limite, particularly since you would only want it to avoid him running couldn't run.
AlexKsak 3 years ago
I like that when Nader speaks I feel like he is speaking from his heart and his mind and that he cares about this country and has the know-how to run it as President. He isn't a puppet. I would vote for him again. Even if I know he won't win.
SarahGoodVsSarahEvil 3 years ago
You have my vote Nader! The other three are corporate warmongerers!
suckitjesus2 3 years ago
All of this debate about third party candidates doesn't make Ralph Nader any less of an asshole.The G.R.E.E.N party is a huge joke and I am not laughing especially when I look at the election numbers of 2000, and the republicans funding him in 2004 and that big hole in the ground in lower manhattan because we elected an incompetent George Bush. Nader makes a profit every time he runs for president. He is a corporate non profit millionaire.
JoshGood28 3 years ago
Whoa. What are you talking about? Gore would have lost anyway, You're so misinformed. Get your head out of your ass. Nader is not a millionaire, and doesn't profit off of running!
Obama is a shit politican. We need Nader to run to press the issues.
Please, educate yourself. It's obvious you've been sucked into the blackhole of the mass-media.
ellenloveseverything 3 years ago
listen, ellen, nader is the hook, the slight of hand of the electoral college. he has no chance of winning anything but the election for the republicans. he steels democratic votes. gore lost by 500 votes in florida. nader took 90,000 in florida. that was the election. hes a puppet for the republican party.
jodog31 3 years ago
Please. If anything the democrats are puppets of the republican party. Gore took more votes away from Nader than Nader took from Gore. Who's the spoiler here? We live in a two party dictatorship that's owned by corporations. Nader is a hero for running and bringing up important issues.
suckitjesus2 3 years ago
jodoq31
Agreed. In addition, he isn't for the people b/c if he were, he would go get lost! He needs to stick with Consumer Advocate.
IamNeutral 3 years ago
Doesn't sound like ellen loves everything. look at the year 2000 vote results. Please inform me with any information that refutes the fact that Nader spoiled Gore's chances or the fact that Nader took campaign contributions from republicans. Nader is a millionaire as a result of these selfish runs for president. G.R.E.E.N means guaranteed republican election every november. I have no respect for Nader. Google Republican contributions to Ralph Nader.What an American Hero.
JoshGood28 3 years ago
Nader is one of the newest members of the CFR. So he will be just another puppet.
bobakpa21 3 years ago
I would like to see evidence of Nader being a CFR member or even being influenced by them in his decision making. I never heard that before and I would be quite dismayed to find that is truth
blookup 3 years ago
good god nader will you stop screwing the american public? do we really have to live through you f***ing up another general election? please stop giving these elections to the republicans!
edluva60 3 years ago
Nader and Ron Paul are probably the only two guys running who are qualified.
It's amazing how so many Americans are brainwashed into thinking there are only two parties in the US.
And by the way these two partys grab the money from foreign and corporate interests it's amazing they aren't known as just the one rulling class.
I guess freedom isn't for everyone.
marniespeaks 3 years ago
You may not support a presidental run but the personal attacks posted here are sickening. He is a hero and icon who has spent every minute of his adult life and every penny of his own money working to improve quality of life for average Americans. His character is impecible. You show the flaws in yours as well as your ignorance of corporate culture and the history of consumer advocacy by calling him "retarded" or "slime". He has probably saved you or someone in your family's life with his work!
puppymouth 3 years ago 2
amen!
ellenloveseverything 3 years ago
puppymouth
I'm not happy about the over 4,000 people
that have been killed in the Iraq War, not to mentios the thousands that have been maimed.
And he definitely caused it b/c if he hadn't run, Gore would have been Prez & we wouldn't be in this nightmare, the War, the Killings, the terrible Economy, etc
IamNeutral 3 years ago
Good point.
But don't you also think the 100,000+ dead Irakis are worth mentioning aswell? Not to mention a fucked up country that isn't going to get any better whoever wins this election?
It irritates me when people do that.
AlexKsak 3 years ago
RALPH NADER 08!!!!!!!! He's got my vote!!!!!!
Amnboy 3 years ago
I just read an article how Obama is taking Wall Street Money. When will people wake up?
So you have my support and vote Ralph. Enough of this two/one party corporate monopoly. I'm so glad you jumped in!
marniespeaks 3 years ago
I bet he'll win this time.
Nader 08 (you know you want it)
claytongault 3 years ago
Please crawl back into the slime!
goblazer 3 years ago
This is too good to be true.
treysparker 3 years ago
GO Ralph!! You got my support!!!
jankyflava 3 years ago
1. The Patriot Act 1 and 2
2. HR bill 1955 (thought crimes bill)
3. Repeal of Posse Comitatus Act
4. Military Commissions Act
5. Department of Homeland Security
Vote Democrat or Republican in 2008, and lets give legitimacy to these laws and acts, by voting for one of the 3 leading candidates whom ALL voted for or supported these actions.
putittogether 3 years ago
Nader is just a hack,trying to stay in publics eye.Why else would you even think about him?Oh yea,he saved america from the evil corvair.Ralph,just go away.
move2montana 3 years ago
God damnit Nader, you've fucked up too many elections already... and you outlawed the Corvair, so blow me.
puptentaclezappa 3 years ago
Last chance -> Ralph Nader
sullivanokaine 3 years ago
Its nice to see others standing up and giving the American people a choice. He is a raging liberal and a great choice for an Independent candidate. Good luck Mr. Nader.- Impeach Bush!
Go Ron Paul!!! Become intelligent by being informed- WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!!!
kryz24v 3 years ago 4
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Nader really needs a life. He's worse than Ron Paul. Why does he decide to run NOW?
HaloedG 3 years ago
You are retarded sir.
utubesucks2003 3 years ago
You say your patriotic. You would not fund the troops. Sounds to me like you are nothing more than surrender monkeys. Maybe he should run for French Pres.
lrlbox21 3 years ago
You'd have made a great Nazi because they also believed that patriotism equated to blindly supporting war at any costs. Then again, you're probably just a pathetic chickenhawk.
dbohls 3 years ago
I'm not patriotic at all. I could careless about the people who died in 9/11. More people die in America from lack of Health-care or from job related illnesses than 9/11. The terrorist only live in your mind. Terrorist are ideas or thoughts implanted in your minds to fear everyone who is not American. 9/11 is a joke that the ultra-rich class played on the dumb undereducated American. Check the story about "Put Options" placed on 9/11 airlines and businesses at the World Trade Center before 9/11.
ManufacturedThoughts 3 years ago
YES YES I know who I will vote for. To bad that the media will sabatoge him. Last time he ran he couldn't get ANY coverage. If people think they REALLY have a choice they are very wrong! With Obama spending 5 times as much as Hillary one needs to ask where is he getting the money from? Special interest?
Dallouez 3 years ago
Why did they not have the votes, since it seems so obvious the laws have been broken.
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Sorry, specious argument there. Haha, Ayn Rand novels are full of them.
Verified1 3 years ago
typical
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Typical that I won't take your bait, JohnWroclaw, and promote your specious debating point? Well, it's been fun but I'm a little weary of being dismissed and besides I have a job. Good luck with your candidate.
Verified1 3 years ago
I never dismissed you, you did that to yourself.
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Why FEAR SMEAR?
Obama landslide...
Right DNC?
gravel kucinich paul nader
+ more whistle-blowers
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
I wonder how many Righties will contribute to the Nader campaign. After all, his candidacy does more for them than it does for the rest of us. It is sad that President Clinton has grown so nasty in his later years as evidenced by some of his remarks in the primary campaign. And now Nader is another sad old man whose previously noble legacy is crumbling. It's not about you Ralph, no matter how much you claim it's about good government. It's your overblown ego that's the problem.
Verified1 3 years ago
Its the message. If you want the status quo, you have that right. However there are others that are tired of the same old BS. Its not enough to talk about it, we need people who will actually start the process.
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Thanks for your reply JohnWroclaw, but I respectfully disagree about your characterization of those who don't support Nader as settling for the status quo. And there's plenty of BS to go around. Nader claimed the idealist role before, and no matter how much he would deny it, the truth is that his candidacy helped to give the world this criminal and despotic administration that we have borne in shame for 7 years. I'm grateful to Nader for so many things but this campaign belies a messiah complex.
Verified1 3 years ago
I agree Bush was a huge mistake, but Nader is not too blame. People should vote their conscience and not follow party lines. That is the true problem here. If you vote Democratic or Republican you are supporting the status quo. I am not convinced that Gore would of saved the world. What would he have done after 911, who knows? Probably not much different, since almost all Democrats supported the war. Obama did not, but he has failed since and followed party line.
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
JohnWroclaw, I'm afraid your repeated opinion that "If you vote Democratic or Republican you are supporting the status quo." is quite arrogant, judgmental and simply not true. How can you presume to know what is in the heart or mind of everyone who disagrees with you and Nader, or do you just assume we don't have a mind? You have just made my point beautifully about Nader. Thank you for summing it up so well.
Verified1 3 years ago
Nader did not give Bush the majority in 2004. Most of the country supported the war, before it started to fall apart. Its our fault not Naders. I dont support Nader, but I appreciate his passion for a better way, and would never want a voice for the people censored behind the false believe of that if you vote for him you are throwing your vote away. This collectivism of the Dems and Rep, are the real root cause of our current situation. WHy have the Dems not impeached Bush?
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
JohnWroclaw...They don't have the votes in the congress to impeach him. The Dems don't have that big a majority. Next question?
Verified1 3 years ago
Maybe because there is no reason to impeach Bush...hater. Everyone doesn't think like you.
lrlbox21 3 years ago
funny
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Check out Grandfather Bush or Great Grandfather Bush. Prescott Bush (grandfather) was doing business with the Nazi Party in Germany up until 1942. Check it out and decide for yourself. Bush is an international terrorist of and for the corporate fascist elite. He has committed War Crimes and the whole world knows about it. Only the undereducated American cannot think outside the box.
ManufacturedThoughts 3 years ago 2
Nader's job is running for President. He's been doing this thing for the last 20 years. He asks for donations and pays himself a salary from those funds to hold him over until the next election rolls around.
If he was truly serious, he would have tried to retain some credibility. But, after helping get George W. Bush re-elected in 2004, I don't know anyone who cares a whit about Nader, anymore.
He's made himself a pathetic footnote to history when he could have been much more.
zideaz 3 years ago
Hmm that sounds like an interesting career. >:)
Seiku 3 years ago
I love all the Democrats and Republicans who try to tell us not to waste or votes on people who want to chage our corrpt political system. They actually think there is a real difference between Obama and McCain. NewFlash. There is no difference. Go Nader, GO Paul. Elect change for a change
JohnWroclaw 3 years ago
Oh God, now the "Dr." Ron Paul spammers are going to turn into Nader spammers. Sigh.
Verified1 3 years ago
Its going to be as annoying as the Hillary and Obama spammers. Sigh.. =(
Seiku 3 years ago
Seiku, Thanks for your response. However, you will notice if you read my post that I didn't speak up for anyone's candidacy. So if you are accusing me of spamming for a candidate, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Forgive me if I misunderstood the meaning of your response.
Verified1 3 years ago
Oh no its okay, I just wanted to add to the list. Every spammer in general is annoying to me. I support Paul but I hate spammers too :>. Sometimes when I see a VOTE FOR PAUL HOPE FOR BLAH BLAH I hit the spam button (I didnt need or read youtube spam to hear about Paul). Also I think mostly the 'unsure' voters might go for Nader, Pauls still technically in the race just very very silent lol.
Seiku 3 years ago
Haha, Seiku. Thanks for your reply. Nice to meet a Paul supporter who isn't a spammer. Go forward! :-)
Verified1 3 years ago
Every 4 years, Nader plays this game. He finds just enough gullible people to donate money to him, then he disappears with a pocket full of cash until the next election. Stop falling for this scam unless you want McCain to be the next president.
RoyalKrush 3 years ago
Listen, I understand that many of you are idealists. Thats great and occasionally I am myself. However this election is extremely important. In 2000 Nader indirectly put Bush in the Whitehouse. Please PLEASE don't let Mccain in the Whitehouse because you want to make a statement. Just wait a few years.
Orlan54 3 years ago
nader is the only person that can change america go nader.
getsome58 3 years ago
GO NADER! Eff you haters.
mcaselogic 3 years ago
Why FEAR SMEAR?
Obama in landslide...
Right DNC?
gravel kucinich paul nader
more whistle-blowers
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
Why?
Seiku 3 years ago
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
Ralph Nader runs for president... PERENNIALLY. And loses... PERENNIALLY! LOL.
rmsolom 3 years ago
I've never understood why this guy thinks he's such an attractive candidate, that he keeps running over and over. Well, I guess, you gotta leave an old man alone with his obsessions.
vertigate 3 years ago
Screw you Nader, you gave us a war. If it wasn't for him bleeding votes and money, we would have Al Gore as president.
camcom1p 3 years ago
go ralph! we need to get out of the 2 party stranglehold. Dems keep funding the war giving us the same results with a different justification.
pootron 3 years ago
sayhello2thebadguy is delusional for sure , everybody thubs down on the nader hater
DANKIETRAIN 3 years ago 2
you HAVE to be delusional.
r3s3t063 3 years ago
Nader's a bit quirky, but when I listen to him talk I get the impression he's driven by a love for the US and invests himself in defending it with passion.
When I hear the other candidates speak, I hear people that seem more driven by personal ambition than by a desire to restore the country's dignity.
Too soon to judge. But it's a good thing Nader's pertinent questions will be publicized and debated. Enough of the pathetic political phoniness we're subjected to.
chatelet55 3 years ago
Nader has destroyed his legacy. He will be remembered as the man who destroyed America.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
he destroyed America? wow, how's that now?
r3s3t063 3 years ago
I vote green up here in Canada, in a very conservative city nonetheless. I consider myself very green, very fair trade, and all that. But I'm also a realist. This election should be about everybody ganging up on the republicans, forcing them from power, ending the war on terror, dismantling the department of homeland security, repairing the economy of the USA, and restoring your shitty image around the world. Just because you CAN run, dosn't mean you should.
detheter 3 years ago
Vote for osama? blah blah blahhhh...never says anything just steals lines...
vote for hilary? So her husband can be president again? Her husband that likes to get gay at Bohemian Grove with his republican gay buddies.
Vote for mcCain? he's still fighting 'nam...
Pretty pathetic pool, cesspool that is....
I'll vote for Nader before that lot. Why he's the only one who wants to bring formal charges against war criminals bush/cheney.
ammiralowling 3 years ago 3
Every 4 years, Nader plays this game. He finds just enough gullible people to donate money to him, then he disappears with a pocket full of cash until the next election. Stop falling for this scam unless you want McCain to be the next president.
crabsarepeople2 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Has Nader ever even kissed a girl?
The man's pathetic he's not a has been he's a never was.
grazon 3 years ago
I like how people think that only Republicans and Democrats are allowed to become president. The party system has destroyed the country. If the democrats think they are so strong and stand for what the people truly want, then they have nothing to fear. I think though the real reason they hate Nader is because they are weaker then they portray themselves.
Even George Washington believed that the party system would corrupt the country.
europamo 3 years ago 2
VoteNader . org
CrucieFiction 3 years ago
How the ESTABLISHMENT boosters, who think power and control is THEIR birth-right and DOMAIN, LOATHE this guy ! More power to him.
opdage 3 years ago
go nader!
historywillabsolve 3 years ago
Nader is a pathetic egomaniac that has caused more harm to progressive movements in this country than any other single individual. He has discredited the Green Party already, and now is trying to prevent Obama from forming a working bipartisan movement in Washington. Ralph, please stop this nonsense and let this country heal from the damage you have already caused. Go use your millions to retire and let us start making real progress.
naderisadouche 3 years ago
nader has never stopped fighting for progressive causes. if you're going to blame someone for the straits we're in then blame the Democratic party for abandoning their principles and surrendering to special interests. if Gore wasn't such a coward and differentiated himself more from Bush by taking up these issues (instead of attending fancy $10,000 a plate dinners for his corporate backers) this whole Bush nightmare would have never happened. you have no one to blame but yourselves liberals!
historywillabsolve 3 years ago
Why FEAR SMEAR?
Obama in landslide...
Right DNC?
gravel kucinich paul nader
Whistle-blowers.
ryanshaunkelly 3 years ago
What an ego. Nader, please don't do this to your country. Find some other forum for your beliefs. This country cannot survive 4 more or anymore years of Republican rule. I used to respect you..
badbush666 3 years ago
You vote stealing bastard. You cant possibly win, all you can do is once again steal votes from politicians who really could make a difference. I may love your politics but your a senile old fool, and a disgrace to your own ideals. Disgusting.
aandolin 3 years ago
Great, get Ron Paul for vice. That would be truly entertaing...freaks
lrlbox21 3 years ago
lol dude that would be scary
TheATeam101 3 years ago
i agree
xopinkaliciousox 3 years ago
Again? Makes me want to watch TMNT II: SotO again. . .
fnt100 3 years ago
Nader is useless.
Alender1953 3 years ago 3