Atheism is the belief that nothing created everything and that threw time all things are possible. Your morality is based on what society finds acceptable. When your morality is based on man not God then it becomes acceptable to hang black people in trees put Jews in gas chambers and kill babies in the womb. It is a sad world that denies God.
i have to agree, the man does use a huge generalization to label all atheists. but hey thats what preachers do. if he wasnt so good at doing such things he wouldnt be where he is today. Just because one or two athiests had a rotten view of life and the world, doesn't mean we all do.
You said to let you know wha i think: well first off i think your boring and mark is passionate and exciting. i think you make up your own logic as you go along, none of it makes sense and you make alot of assumptions, some of which is false. Mark on the other hand explains ateism by quoting atheists, he's not making stuff up. lastly i think I will pray for you, mark does not hate athiests he loves people and is simply sharing the truth he has found in JESUS.
It all leads me to what I think the conclusion of your video is. It is a false meaningless accusation made for the purpose of psychologically nullifying the views of someone in which you disagree with. Childsplay for those who can see it, atheist or theist.
I think you mimic your idols. I also think you either didn't watch the whole video, or didn't bother to really listen to it. The guy clearly states that the concept of a savior son of god is exclusive to christianity and of course he thinks its better, he wouldn't be christian if he didn't. You wouldn't be atheist if you didn't think atheism is better.
@Vlaxitov Christianity. Jewish Messiah, common to a decent span of Judaic sects. Islam and Mormonism also follow the idea of some sort of "messiah/savior".
Gnosticism is also a field that crosses the Abrahamic FAITHS and proposes a messiah. It's also completely ridiculous, but that is outside the point.
Of course polytheistic faiths also have people who die and sacrifice themselves and are killed for the sake of other people. A few of them are the gods' mortal-ish children.
When I first watched your video I had forgotten that it wasn't Mark saying unyielding despair.
Did you get that Mark did not come up with that label for atheism. it was an atheist that was far more intelligent than you. He Russell came to the logical conclusion of despair not Mark.
The whole foundation of your video was unyielding despair. Why don't you look more into your worldview and see the points made by those that came before you child.
Yes, you're right. Christianity is a form of theism, but the point mhcseattle was trying to make was that Christianity does not rely on works righteousness like all other world religions. God is the one who saves us, and we cannot save ourselves. That was the whole point of the crucifixion. Just thought I'd clear that point up.
That you don't know shit about other religions doesn't mean that there are no other religions that learn that you have to be saved by god(s). Christianity is hardly unique.
you are 100% incorrect in that statement. Christianity is the one and only absolutely unique world view that hold to the requirement of the incarnate God being sacrificed for the redemption of His creation. Not only is this idea or concept unique but it is even more unique in the detail and historical prophetic outline of said plan before its consummation.
You can complain about the christian worldview all you want but you can never take away it's absolute distinctive message.
Driscoll has missed the mark by 0:22. He says nothing about what atheists are. Instead he projects what atheism ought to be if his worldview is correct. There is no room in his worldview for content and fulfilled atheists, so he must act as if they don't exist. Therefore he proceeds to erect more emotional straw men than a Wizard of Oz convention. There was nothing worthwhile in that presentation to counter.
You're just making my point for me. There is enough atheist material online for you to peruse if you wish to, or you can cling to your misconception of what atheism is.
you have made no point. all you have said is that he is wrong and has a misconception. will no logical nor practical examples or evidence.
you are a misconception, not just what you say, but you in your existence are a misconception. so how could you possibly understand what anyone is trying to say.
why don't you explain my misconception so that I might become unmisconceived (acknowledge that is not a word)
I do not believe you can explain my nor mark driscoll's alleged misconception
Driscoll's 'sermon' was the equivalent of an atheist claiming Christians perform human sacrifice. If you are blind enough to reality to buy it in the first place, no amount of argument will sway you. As I said, even if you don't know any open atheists in real life, there are enough online for you to disabuse yourself of your notion. The only reason Driscoll got away with it is there was no atheist present to bust out laughing at the absurdity when he said it.
no it wasn't an analogy. if it was an attempt at an analogy then you failed. and should despair since you do not understand what an analogy is
here let me wrap up what you have said so far
mark did represent my views correctly
I will not explain that or qualify it I just want to complain.
the reason your analogy is not an analogy is because Mark correctly portrayed the atheist view. where when an atheist says christians perform human sacrifice that is not a correct portrayal.
You seem to lack reading comprehension. Either than or you simply see what you want to see in my words.
Mark did not correcty portray any atheist worldview. What he did was project what he thinks atheists must be so his worldview is accurate. He was as much off the mark as I would be if I claimed christians practice human sacrifice.
Did it make sense now or should I use smaller words?
you obviously can only think in small words. because you have not corrected anything Mark said. do you know big words other than "that's not right" or "wrong".
where was Mark wrong, Can you answer that question?
what do atheist's believe, since Mark stated they believed in no God?
what did bertrand russell believe, since Mark quoted him in the beginning of the video?
I await your large worded answers, so that I might be rightfully educated.
Mark painted a picture of atheists as these might-makes-right advocates, whose attitude leads to despair, drugs, suicide and becoming unemotional drones. All you need to disabuse yourself of that notion is to actually talk to atheists. Atheists believe in mostly everything you believe in, except god.
You can find out yourself Russell's views if you read the whole essay that Driscoll quoted, its called "a free man's worship" and its online.
@EquusHemionusKhur : By the way: nice judgement on his apparel at 1:00. Do you know how much he paid for them? They may be cheaper than your jeans. You're playing right into his hand when you judge others and act like a sinner.
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Atheism is the belief that nothing created everything and that threw time all things are possible. Your morality is based on what society finds acceptable. When your morality is based on man not God then it becomes acceptable to hang black people in trees put Jews in gas chambers and kill babies in the womb. It is a sad world that denies God.
ArboriusOwns 5 months ago
i have to agree, the man does use a huge generalization to label all atheists. but hey thats what preachers do. if he wasnt so good at doing such things he wouldnt be where he is today. Just because one or two athiests had a rotten view of life and the world, doesn't mean we all do.
woodtick71 10 months ago
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i have a feeling you might just become a christian =]...
youthrevival101 1 year ago
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powderhunter127 1 year ago
You said to let you know wha i think: well first off i think your boring and mark is passionate and exciting. i think you make up your own logic as you go along, none of it makes sense and you make alot of assumptions, some of which is false. Mark on the other hand explains ateism by quoting atheists, he's not making stuff up. lastly i think I will pray for you, mark does not hate athiests he loves people and is simply sharing the truth he has found in JESUS.
sidrockroll 1 year ago
you literally said absolutely nothing.
...way to go.
bseballcrzy17 1 year ago
It all leads me to what I think the conclusion of your video is. It is a false meaningless accusation made for the purpose of psychologically nullifying the views of someone in which you disagree with. Childsplay for those who can see it, atheist or theist.
Vlaxitov 1 year ago
I think you mimic your idols. I also think you either didn't watch the whole video, or didn't bother to really listen to it. The guy clearly states that the concept of a savior son of god is exclusive to christianity and of course he thinks its better, he wouldn't be christian if he didn't. You wouldn't be atheist if you didn't think atheism is better.
Vlaxitov 1 year ago
@Vlaxitov Christianity. Jewish Messiah, common to a decent span of Judaic sects. Islam and Mormonism also follow the idea of some sort of "messiah/savior".
Gnosticism is also a field that crosses the Abrahamic FAITHS and proposes a messiah. It's also completely ridiculous, but that is outside the point.
Of course polytheistic faiths also have people who die and sacrifice themselves and are killed for the sake of other people. A few of them are the gods' mortal-ish children.
And logic ftw.
onijester56 1 year ago
We love atheists, thats why we hate Atheism!
desasterz 1 year ago
When I first watched your video I had forgotten that it wasn't Mark saying unyielding despair.
Did you get that Mark did not come up with that label for atheism. it was an atheist that was far more intelligent than you. He Russell came to the logical conclusion of despair not Mark.
The whole foundation of your video was unyielding despair. Why don't you look more into your worldview and see the points made by those that came before you child.
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
Yes, you're right. Christianity is a form of theism, but the point mhcseattle was trying to make was that Christianity does not rely on works righteousness like all other world religions. God is the one who saves us, and we cannot save ourselves. That was the whole point of the crucifixion. Just thought I'd clear that point up.
Rocklobster127 2 years ago
That you don't know shit about other religions doesn't mean that there are no other religions that learn that you have to be saved by god(s). Christianity is hardly unique.
MarinusCopy 2 years ago
you are 100% incorrect in that statement. Christianity is the one and only absolutely unique world view that hold to the requirement of the incarnate God being sacrificed for the redemption of His creation. Not only is this idea or concept unique but it is even more unique in the detail and historical prophetic outline of said plan before its consummation.
You can complain about the christian worldview all you want but you can never take away it's absolute distinctive message.
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
I think you missed all of his points in the video and that is a sign of unyielding despair, for you at least.
You did not actually counter anything he said with a relative or even coherent point.
I am glad you have such high thoughts of your own philosophical understanding, yet choose not to exhibit them.
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
Driscoll has missed the mark by 0:22. He says nothing about what atheists are. Instead he projects what atheism ought to be if his worldview is correct. There is no room in his worldview for content and fulfilled atheists, so he must act as if they don't exist. Therefore he proceeds to erect more emotional straw men than a Wizard of Oz convention. There was nothing worthwhile in that presentation to counter.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
so you are telling me that Mark at :22 said that atheist believe there is no God. This statement is true he did not miss the mark.
are you saying all atheists are fulfilled, that is false.
atheist are not emotional, when they are.
His/my worldview knows that there are none separate from God who are fulfilled. the are always on a fix, but never fulfilled.
The Atheist can not empirically disprove that, for the atheist worldview that must be proven or proven false.
or are you just a strawman
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
You're just making my point for me. There is enough atheist material online for you to peruse if you wish to, or you can cling to your misconception of what atheism is.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
you have made no point. all you have said is that he is wrong and has a misconception. will no logical nor practical examples or evidence.
you are a misconception, not just what you say, but you in your existence are a misconception. so how could you possibly understand what anyone is trying to say.
why don't you explain my misconception so that I might become unmisconceived (acknowledge that is not a word)
I do not believe you can explain my nor mark driscoll's alleged misconception
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
Driscoll's 'sermon' was the equivalent of an atheist claiming Christians perform human sacrifice. If you are blind enough to reality to buy it in the first place, no amount of argument will sway you. As I said, even if you don't know any open atheists in real life, there are enough online for you to disabuse yourself of your notion. The only reason Driscoll got away with it is there was no atheist present to bust out laughing at the absurdity when he said it.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
when did he mention human sacrifice.
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
*sigh*
It's an analogy genius.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
no it wasn't an analogy. if it was an attempt at an analogy then you failed. and should despair since you do not understand what an analogy is
here let me wrap up what you have said so far
mark did represent my views correctly
I will not explain that or qualify it I just want to complain.
the reason your analogy is not an analogy is because Mark correctly portrayed the atheist view. where when an atheist says christians perform human sacrifice that is not a correct portrayal.
see, no analogy
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
You seem to lack reading comprehension. Either than or you simply see what you want to see in my words.
Mark did not correcty portray any atheist worldview. What he did was project what he thinks atheists must be so his worldview is accurate. He was as much off the mark as I would be if I claimed christians practice human sacrifice.
Did it make sense now or should I use smaller words?
Cafeeine 2 years ago
you obviously can only think in small words. because you have not corrected anything Mark said. do you know big words other than "that's not right" or "wrong".
where was Mark wrong, Can you answer that question?
what do atheist's believe, since Mark stated they believed in no God?
what did bertrand russell believe, since Mark quoted him in the beginning of the video?
I await your large worded answers, so that I might be rightfully educated.
-In held breath
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
Mark painted a picture of atheists as these might-makes-right advocates, whose attitude leads to despair, drugs, suicide and becoming unemotional drones. All you need to disabuse yourself of that notion is to actually talk to atheists. Atheists believe in mostly everything you believe in, except god.
You can find out yourself Russell's views if you read the whole essay that Driscoll quoted, its called "a free man's worship" and its online.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
Thanks for noting this idiot for us.
farvision 2 years ago
I try.
EquusHemionusKhur 2 years ago
you fail
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
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@EquusHemionusKhur : By the way: nice judgement on his apparel at 1:00. Do you know how much he paid for them? They may be cheaper than your jeans. You're playing right into his hand when you judge others and act like a sinner.
powderhunter127 1 year ago