Interesting documentary, however they completely dissmissed the topic of a continuation of evolution of humankind into or solely based on computers/technology. Or in other words, perhaps we soon will have to compete with machines that equal all our skills or surpass them by far.
I don't believe what they say by the end. "We are able to control our own evolution" physically speaking.. that is bullshit.. you can only evolved into something if your body really needs it to the survival or adaptation..I think at this point we are perfectly adapter to what we do nowadays..we might evolve in the future we are are going to be challenged by nature.. how do we control that exactly ??? come on.. we act like we are the best.. but once you reach out in Universe you are nothing..
@WWPSdvia What they are talking about there is identifying things in advance... and creating advances in our morphology, intellect etc. to cope with perceived advantages... humans stopped being prone to the rigors of selection for reproduction a long time ago... even to poorest human is in a better more advantageous position than the best lion, tiger etc... we don't need to worry about mundane things like 'what will eat us before we reproduce?'....the answer to that is nothing!
@WWPSdvia i agree that it is a little cocky to think we can control our evolution. We however don't evolve into something because your body needs it for survival or adaptation. It is the contrary - Our genes mutate continuously, and whatever is better suited for the current situation survives, taking on its genes with itself... in time you can imagine these genes become norm if it helps that species survive better and multiply.
I doubt future humans will be called Homo sapiens. It would be funny if the average future human could move like Wesker from Resident Evil XD. Imagine football or soccer XD.
Religion was once useful for theorizing, it's still not useless, it is just thought of the wrong way! Religion, or atheism should not be forced.
they should be used to preserve peace. notice: people who share views rarely fight Religion would not be the philosophical kind, but the kind that preserves peace!
I really think possibilities will become endless soon, in fact, to me it's fascinating that through millions of years of evolution, we are the ones "here and now", in probably the most drastic 50 years of human evolution ever! Whether you think that's luck or destiny or whatever, WE will be the ones here to witness it all! Talking apes with bigger brains, the discovery of the ultimate equation of life, inmortality drinks, uber-powerful telescopes...who knows but it's all exciting to me!! :)
@albo181, almost all periods of human evolution have been "the most dramatic ever." That's just the nature of exponential growth. There's nothing special about our position at all. Our great great great .... grandkids will say the same thing; (How did those poor wretches manage when they lived only about 100 years? What can you learn in such a brief period?)
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
@ananiasacts, what's your point? A) this video is the "prediction" of one individual who claims to be able to see future events, therefore it's immediately dismissable as being a factual source, and B) His theory completely backs everything that I've said anyway, that "technology is about to explode" and that "we are about to approach the nee of this exponential curve", which he refers to as "singularity". All of which is said to happen within the next 50 years!
@albo181, I believe he feels it's more like 10 to 15 years away, not 50. But yes, he seems to agree with you. I'm not sure. I think where we are in 15 years depends more on how we handle the political issues that face us today than the technological issues that will empower us more. We haven't even found a way to make our agriculture environmentally benign yet. The real crisis I see coming are consequences of steadily growing externalities in our economies.
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
no this is all wrong, the future of the human race is that it will die out and be replaced with another species just as previous species before homo sapiens died out so will homo sapiens die out at the rise of homo superior.
@doctorw2:Well, perhaps. It should be noted, though, that the average species length is estimated at about 10 million years. That's a long time before we may have to give up the throne. Besides, whatever species that follows us may well involve the whole of sapiens, not just part of it as is usually the case, and therefore there will be no hard distinction between them and us; we'll be them. Rather than our species being in the past, it may well be speciation itself which will change for us.
@puncheex It is interesting to speculate on whether some species might replace us, but this will not be the case if civilization persists. The exception would be humans as a whole evolving into another species. There have been some sci-fi tales of a spinoff of our species replacing us.
@Albacorewing: Au contraire. All we've done is substitute, as a breeder does, artificial for natural selection. We've done nothing to affect mutation or genetic drift. In fact, if we adopt space exploration (inevitable, IMO), that will be the ideal happenstance for radical speciation: more mutations as we leave Earth's protection, really wild environmental changes (won't need legs anymore?), and more advanced selection (artificially developed symbionts, for example). Lots to look forward to.
The thought occurred to me, when they showed the mother designing her baby's future eyes: What if we were able to give our babies abnormal features, just for the heck of it? Like purple hair and yellow eyes, with green skin? XD Who knows, maybe crazy-looking genetically engineered or surgically made physical features will be in vogue in the 2080s!
But will poor people have access to this technology? I doubt it. Or maybe we'll be rid of money and have our own food replicators by then. lol
And yes the rich will all be beautiful,smart and strong. Races will be further divided and dominated under this master race. The richest countries will have the man and brain power to create a new world order under a single government. They will enslave a small percentage of us "normies" to keep as a fail-safe in-case genetic engineering makes us all sterile human abominations....or vampires.
@datalal624: It's hard to say. Perhaps in the long run we will solve the economics of scarcity. It's hard to see how that would work, but we can hope. Science Fiction can tell you how it may go: Hogan's "Voyage from Yesteryear" about economics, and perhaps the Gaea Trilogy by John Varley concerning tailoring bodies.
@puncheex, solving the economics of scarcity is almost trivial: measure the co2 produced globally each week (already being done with satellites) and distribute an equal share of "rights to emit" to each person. Those wishing to emit more must merely buy the unused portions of those who much have then emitted less in an open market. In such a scheme it's impossible for productivity to rise without increasing the standard of living of everyone fairly quickly.
I was thinking of it in a rather wider arena than just CO2; solving that would primarily include a way of discovering sufficient clean energy sources that it wouldn't pay to charge for them. If you had that, you wouldn't have a CO2 problem. Most resources could be created with inefficient processes that today just cost too much. And so on. Pie in the sky? You betcha.
@puncheex, I disagree we need more technology to solve the problem. We started out able to feed ourselves and have undergone steady and enormous productivity gains ever since then. Yet more people are living in poverty today than 100 years ago. The only explanation is that externalities are diminishing their wealth. co2 isn't the only impact, but it is the best PROXY we have for all of our impact on each other. We could easily correct this problem right now with the technology we have already.
@ananiasacts: Well, I'm all ears. Please explain to me how you're going to do this. All this time I thought we were stumbling, just avoiding to sprawl in a field of glass shards, and the only idea I have is to run faster. How are you going to solve these problems?
@puncheex, We have a satellite network that measures global CO2 now. And we know the population of the earth to better than 99.999% accuracy. It seems to me that merely designing a way to distribute an equal share of CO2 production "rights" to each person, and providing an open market to trade them in, would solve a great many of our most intractable problems and has a huge number of beneficial consequences, from giving us the means to tax the underground economies, to protecting human rights.
I kind of disagree it doesn't need to be that harsh maybe scientists shoudn't even look for a "cure" and instead focus thier attention on more important things
Ah, but the longer we live, the less we reproduce. I think the death of a person should be in his own hands and not be predetermined. Plus the more we integrate with technology the less food, water, and oxygen we need. However this is coming from me, a crazy transhumanist.
@PhillipThunderGrunge exatly right do you think for one second we will be given the right to repoduce while living to 200 years old. No chance, everything we do will be monitored death would be a blessing at this stage.
@PhillipThunderGrunge well, the thing is, this technology will most likely be used in developed countries, where birth rate is extremely low... look for example Spain, has the lowest birth rates anywhere with about .9 kids per family, and is one of the wealthiest nations... their native population is expected to actually drop... this will most likely become a problem in the future, human depopulation due to low birth rates.
@PhillipThunderGrunge Even with the manipulation people would still die eventually, but with it they would probably not feel as rushed to reproduce as quickly so the birth rate would probably slow down to even it out. If they turned off the aging gene completely then people would never get beyond the baby stage and would therefore never be able to reproduce physically. If people really got to that point though we probably would have discovered ways to get resources from and live on other planets
@PhillipThunderGrunge true thats why we have to make our buildings 100 times taller than lets say the twins towers RIP. Anyways if we can do that and invent flying cars then we will have like 100,000 people living in the same building. Kinda like the fifth element if you ever seen that movie.
Its ok most of the life extension technologies will be aces able to the average Joe we were born in the right time. In fact with such things as nano technology and gene therapy we may be the generation that live to be as old as we want to be. You will die when you want to die crazy concept huh.
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Humans are gods, by any and every definition of the word. We may not be responsible for creating the universe, but we are able to control so much of what we find in it, we have changed our way of life from survival to luxury.
We already have influenced our own evolution through keeping folks from dying young from diseases and allowing them to pass their genes with those glitches to the next generation and so on. Genetic engineering will speed up the process, but we have already interfered with Natural Selection. Also, our negative impact on our own biosphere has impacted genetic drift of many species other than ourselves, further affecting our evolutionary process.
I suspect that if genetic superhumans (higher intelligence and longer lifespans) become possible, it would probably be a very expensive procedure. So the rich would soon have superior children to the poor, giving them an even greater competitive edge in future job markets. Humans may also be in competition with sentient machines, making cyberneticly enhanced humans a necessary countermeasure. Unenhanced humans would become obsolete.
I really don't like this ending. Designer-babies who is designed perfectly at birth, I just really don't like that thought. And superhumen in the future who all look like 14 year olds. And this ending is encouriging us to do this in the future, I thihnk we should just take it easy, don't make superbabies for god's sake, there has to be a limit to man's dominance and manipulating with nature.
Why don't you like the thought? Try to find something useful to say, some kind of argument, rather that just stating that you really don't like the thought. There are no limits other than those we find in nature and those we set for ourselves.
I think its a tough subject thats y I maybe dont have good arguments. I think that its ok to corect it if ur baby is going to be sick or have a blemish or smthing, but the thought of an elite kind of look for human beings, like they're some kind of furniture or clothes, it just sikkens me. Maybe the way to get rid of plastic surgery isn't to perform it in the womb, but maybe to accept the way people look from nature. Idk if i'm totally wierd for thinking that.
maybe a higher realization of the mind might be an outcome where the mind can control where to be re-born after the body dies... But today`s science is only making man lazier and lazier... From written calculations to using computers only makes the body attached to the material world. The power of the mind and the realization of the self from within, is forgotten...
the genetic engeneering is good; to make sure the baby wouldn't have 11 fingers; or to make sure the baby isn't paralized
but realy choose how your baby looks.. i don't think that's a good idea, first that will be quite nice, but some companies will design babies for you, and so you can pick one out of 100 or so, and than there are only 100 different people on the whole world ö
yes then it brings up the question how do we really value ourselvels as parents since children are a reflection of ourselves.Sure increased iq etc is a good idea but something like phenotype modifications really is just shallow
I understand that's your feeling and I sympathize with your instinct to "retreat" to just calling it your opinion and your subjective morality, but I think we can make more headway if we resist that instinct sometimes, & try to communicate our feelings to one another.
Let's look at the issue like this: Whatever you value in yourself & others, wouldn't you want to maximize that in your child? Whether it be brains, empathy, musicality, good looks or brawn. Parents already try to, to some degree.
You really haven't convinced me of anything, but I think i'll just leave it at that we have very different views on what's important and what isn't so important, I would say totally unnecesary / wierd. you probably think that's a weak answer. (I wouldn't maximize anything in my child, I would want a normal, natural child, I would make sure it was healthy and maybe didn't have very big ears or something like that, I would never reform the face like in this video)
I wouldn't do that either. Can't believe they included that in the video, it's such a bad example/interpretation... I would first & foremost guard against disability, prevent disease, ensure a good biological & cultural basis for psychological health, and so on. But we will certainly, in the long run, have capabilities to go beyond mere safety measures.
I agree on the part with health and dissability, that it comes first. I don't think I'm into going beyond that, I think there's a difference between humen and fx food products, but Maybe it's just me, maybe in the future they would laugh at me. I also think, at the time we don't need to care about safety issues for humen (and animals), and can work on "good looks" and stuff like that, is probably very far away...
Here's one of many good reads on the subject of what our future evolution might look like: abolitionist (dot) com - written and read by David Pearce, a British philosopher, who believes we will soon abolish the biological basis of suffering (psychological as well as physical pain) in all sentient life.
A parent can't decide what looks good. And the baby could think it's ugly as all hell with what the parents said, and plastic surgery would still be around. :/
i dont think there should be super kids i mean kids learn important skills like talking and games through playing they should be able to act like children not adults
A very important variable in evolution is the ever changing environment, since humans are capable of manipulating their environment to suit themselves, there seems to be no need for us to further develop. However, the situation will always change, as we learn to adopt to our increasingly technological world. I'd say genetic engineering will be the new evolution and humans are far from our absolute potential(in fact I wonder if there is a limit)
interesting video. imagine how gay it will be though if these new super perfect kids are smarter than you.. boast to that they can live to 284 and you are now a cave man compared...there's a new war for ya.. lol.
Children TODAY can learn much more at a younger age than they do... that's because our educational system is slow and superfluous.
How can you have one child speak multiple languages, for example, yet another one can't? Because of exposure...
We also tend to stop learning when we get older... it's sad that we learn so much even in our first 10 years of life, that we will probably not replicate for the next 60... if we did, we'd all be speaking 20 languages, and know all sorts of skills.
so true i mean we do practically the exact same thing in public schools for roughly most of primary school(elementary if your american)from ages 7-13.oh and actually its been scientifically shown that people do not lose learning capabilities as we get over older only by lack of practice i gues probably since after college/university your not generally in a learning enviroment
I mean, I agree that religion is stopping us from evolving, but God is more than a simple religion. He or she just wants the best for us, and I know he would support us outside from religion, which is made up by some radical and retrograde people. Just my point of view. I love science!!!
I do believe you are one of the few believers who finally gets it. It isn't that people who go into science hate God, its that they don't like religion where groups of people are afraid of the unknown and don't dare ask "what if?".
I like the point that you make about religion. We have the science we need today to answer the question of life's origins. Time for religion to step back and take its rightful place in history....as history.
@stickybelvedere, It does seem like the puberty of our species has been stalled by the enormous numbers of folks who simply refuse to take the training wheels off their bicycles.
@freethinker923 I can explain that for you. Religion that seperated church and state limited the power of kings. Until that time populations were at the whim of kings. Get a good king and all is well. But get a bad one and ... not so much.
From religion came the idea that kings also have limits on their authority, and this led to more human rights. A seperate, later advance came when Calvanism taught that earthly accomplishment, but not showiness, was godliness, which led to capital formation
@stickybelvedere I'd be wary of religion having to 'go' ... I think it needs to be 'replaced'... people need certainty and a goal to be achieved that they can essentially never attain... you remove that...you will cause problems...especially among the more cerebrally challenged members of our species.
We can breed those out if we have the technology to replace their effect on society with technology... but that won't be today nor tomorrow
I like your mind set Omid45 i like that 2 only math and sciences exist religion lame we prove it wrong the old testament so what u stupid beliver make ? oh wait the stupid new testament that was no prive what so ever !!! i can make a stupid book that say oh that rock in your back yard is your god are you stupid enough to belive it oh wait u are
If someone today told me that i was say genetically engineered to be the way i am i would be utterly disgusted by myself. Who is the other that will determine who i will be? chances are a greater idiot than i am, ouch the utter disgust.
the best part of this documentary was from part 1 to part 5, the rest was stupid. if you know what i mean :) This was too good. Almost made me cry lol. WOW that part about choosing how your kid will look like, Ex: eye color, hair, nose shape and all that stuff, WOOW i had never thought about that. Go science GO SCIENCE. STOP ALL RELIGIONS AND GOD.
I actually searched for some documentary more about our ancestors, for I have exam from human evolution soon and all those australopithecus and homos are giving me a headache, but this showed me a more interesting look on our evolution.
Too bad so much of our potential is focused on past problems (religious desputes) instead of present and future ones.
I enjoyed watching this documentary programme . Thanks to science and scientists who saved the human race and other races and the living beings from extinction .
Thanks for posting,I agree 100%.Only people who is afraid,weak, lazy, ignorant, because their stupid religions,their own stupidity; they don't deserve to be called as humans.You are MONKEYS dominated by other MONKEYS.We are Gods, because we are existence Itself reproducing Itself, being councious of Itself!!!!!
(You christians, go to your own hell, and leave the science and the humanity alone! You killers of scientists, women, kids and freethinkers !!!!!!!!!!!)
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the idea of designing our own future... a truly scary thought. humans have never been nor ever should be left in charge of such a moral thing only god can play god.
Be sure to tell your doctor that if you ever get a life threatening disease. "No, I don't want any of your fancy medicine or surgeries. Only God can play God! If I die it is God's will."
We don't get around using genetic engineering in order to keep up a healthy gene pool. The other option would be a massive spread of genetic defects and disorders, making it impossible for our species to survive. A world full of cripples this would be. And who wants to take responsibility for that? Or who would prefer euthanasia in order to cut this problem down?
We need first to get rid of the piramidical power structures leading the world. They WILL abuse this self-enhancement. We have to get red rid of all form of supranational institutions, all forms of big territorial states and reintroduce the city states, peoples parliaments of the little states, and intergouvernemental charters in stead of powerful institutions. We also have to aknowledge in the constitution the individual above the collective. Freedom Force Internationa! -> we are prepared!
i don't believe u should be aloud to pick what your child's skin color or eyes or all that shit should look like thats not right hell whenever i do have kids who knows what they will look like for that matter i'm interracial its all up to chance of your gens
I agree. There is a fascist touch to the plans of those scientists. Superhumans, lol, and what will those superhumans do all day? They will have to do the same things that we suprahumans are doing now: study, work, shop, shit, piss, eat, drink, clean, reproduce, relax... So why change?
There is a reason why we are the way we are. But once man thinks he can deliberately modify and improve something by messing with something as complex as human genes, that is what we will get, a huge mess.
you said "Even today Africans are trying to bleach their skins by means of dangerous substances at the cost of ruining their health."
this is not a genetic change. may be you dont know but genetic engineer had made a healthy green pig and a mouse with 5 legs.
and about change... IS EVOLUTION. our purpose is to evolve, to assure our descendants a better live then our and to save human race from disasters. read more and you will understand. sorry for my unfluent english. im just a kid (15
Of course the initial change caused by those substances is not a genetic one, but the following ones may well be as some of the ingredients (e.g. mercuric chloride) impact genes in an arbitrary way, just the way other toxins do.
But the fact that black people are black is genetic, and at the moment unfortunately a lot of Africans are not happy with their skin color, maybe due to a lack of self-confidence and pride in the aftermath of the colonial times, and modern racism even among Africans.
Regarding evolution, I don't think there is any purpose in it apart from securing survival. And have we not survived till now? 6.x billion humans...
Plus, once you start "improving" humans, the rest of them will have a hard time and be considered second-class humans. After all, you can't turn billions of existing humans into superhumans.
The whole video is stupid and naive. Stopping aging?! Are they crazy? We need to age and die. Life expectancy is already too high in industrialized countries.
/Regarding evolution, I don't think there is any purpose in it apart from securing survival. And have we not survived till now? 6.x billion humans.../
how you think we can survive when our sun death? or from an asteroid? or from other unimaginable disaster that we dont even know now with such of stupid ppl who want only money sex and food?
/Plus, once you start "improving" humans, the rest of them .../
you think we need to make all in one day? and the second fact is that our civilization dont need bilions no more... now we start the robotic age and in 10 - 20 max 30 years we will not need no more idiots who make only to sale something or to wash or to cook or other idiots to make business or all useless jobs for other ppl... think about it :).
/The whole video is stupid and naive. Stopping aging?! Are they crazy? We need to age and die. Life expectancy is already too high in industrialized countries. /
they didnt said stop aging... is just tehy will leave more... in fact after the learn so much math and fizic and other stuff why they die at 70-80?... we need to die becouse after 60 years old we cant work and we dont bring something good to civilization...
and dont worrry about countries who have too many ppl ( like all)... they will die in a future ww3 intentionally caused to let our civilization to join the new age.
thx
and sorry about unfuent english again. i did my best for 15 years old. i can speak hours about this subject becouse i read many things. if you belive me good if not good anyway
Listen kid, I am in my 40s, unlike you I have to work, thus only limited time to talk about such nonsense. By the time that nightmare might come true, I will be dead anyway, and happy about it. I can't really blame you, when I was your age I was a bit naive, too, ready to fall for such sci-fi crap.
what you work? you are a priest? you have children? what education you give them said that we don`t need to evolve? you are naive now too. anyway, if you like to think only about today is ur choice. after 2000 years old the humans will say that we are unadvanced, like we say about civilizations who lived 2000 years ago. you cant image what new technology will bring. for you the future is stop in present. is not SF is TRUTH.
mikydutzaa, I am also in my 40s. All I can say is that not all people become staid, old, conservative and intimidated by the new The key to understanding anything is to be imaginative and a bit naive, it opens us up to new possibilities if we entertain new ideas and chew them over for a while in our heads. And you are absolutely right btw, In fact many of these technologies are already with us. It is complex ethical issues which have made us pause. necessarily so for this is a big new tech.
We have to solve our old problems before we get into designer babies. Even today Africans are trying to bleach their skins by means of dangerous substances at the cost of ruining their health. So I am afraid colored people would soon disappear if humans could chose their skin color. Once we have found out what ideal properties are, our children would be too similar. I am happy I won't be around anymore by then.
be quiet those few of us who do that, are not the majority, i like being black as a matter of fact. do all small breasted women get breast implants. don't make ignorant racist comment buddy
There was nothing racist about my remark, quite to the contrary. However, skin bleaching already is a big problem in some parts of Africa, because the substances used can affect genes, so it can lead to handicapped babies. I'm afraid there would be great pressure on black parents when it came to chosing their offspring's color because they know that in a still largely racist world their children would have a better life if they were light-skinned.
yea and do you know something too, in china, there is an epidemic of people who do surgery on their eyes so they look more western. but no one seems to talk about it. there is always this general assumption that black people don't like them selves. yes it happens, but who cares. talk about white people that tan so much that end up getting skin cancers, then pale people wont exist anymore? i know you didn't mean to make a racist remark, but your ignorance made it already.
Well, I disagree. My remarks were not racist just because I commented on black people's actions without mentioning the stupidity of members of all other ethnic groups.
I know that not all black people hate being black, but a lot of them still want to look whiter, especially in Africa. That is what I meant in my first comment. We have to make sure nobody feels the need to change their children's color, before we get into designing babies, which is ridiculous anyway, regardless of the race issue.
There is a flaw in the commentry. 'We've come a long way from the chimps'. We didn't come from chinps we came from a common ancestor. We are just as evolved as chimps are.
I personally love the prospect of genetic engineering. Despite all the hatred, all the stupidity we homosapiens have been progressing all throughout our history.
Ironically that could very well be our downfall. By attaining the ability to change our environment we have essentially halted evolution. Unless we take our evolution into our own hands, it will remain stagnant and eventually so to will civilization.
I personally am ready to accept any consequences in the name of evolution.
Well I'm not sure that eugenics it a good way forward for the human race especially if the class system remains the way it is today. But otherwise we have limitless possibilities to look forward to. I for one am excited.
It certainly is good for the classes that can afford it is it not?
And how does that hurt the classes that cannot afford it in the beginning?
Progress is just that, progress and more progress is good for all even if it is first good and better for the richer and the hard working and ambitious.
The weak always pay for their weaknesses, all the hopes and prayers of the weak will never chance that.
Control aging? I'm all for technology and advancement, but let's think about this: Do we REALLY want to live forever? What if everything becomes too crowded?
Thanks for posting. I doubt tha we ourselves are clever enough to select the right criteria to make us better persons. Which means that influencing our genetig structure could lead to a de-generating. Who will be allowed to chose? And what reasons and emotions will influence that choice? And what influence will that choice have on our future emotions and decisions?
im not a pedophile or a supporter of child soldiers, but all i say is that i believe that if some1 recieves the ability to make decisions at the same quality as an adult but are actually very young to the extent it shouldnt EVER been possible to be so advanced at such a age in ur species,that u should be able to be given the same rights to perform what u decide upon and that if ur logic is so overly matured early,that u may trully decide the legitimacy of the sexual act with a partner of any age
wonder why theres laws against things like sex with minors and minor not going to war or being able to vote?But if a six year was as competent and responsable as a 30 year old,shouldnt they be entitled to the same freedoms?Humans until 18 are not considered responsable,but if could,wouldnt u have wanted to be as competent when u were little as when ur were 30?Dont take the innocentness or imagination of the child,but if u could,why would u deprive a child from making the right choices early.
Definitely! Obviously that sort of innovative technology wont be available to everyone. It will probably only be accessible to the very wealthy at first, then it'll probably sprinkle down to some of the middle class people in the most advanced industrialized countries, but billions will still be left out of this process. In order for something like that to flourish so that everyone could benefit, then privatization would have to be done away with, along with the broader economic structure
..or there also might be a two class system - who should do all the work if there is no second class people or a third world? Imagine one could built stupid working machines. This scares me even more
We didn't evolve from chimps or apes, we evolved alongside them.
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control aging and keep young looks by 2020? lmao I doubt that.
OldArmpitSmell 2 months ago
Playing god is wronge but sadly when it happens people will jump on board
brieman2 7 months ago
My babies are going to be organic.
imsocool7222 11 months ago
Interesting documentary, however they completely dissmissed the topic of a continuation of evolution of humankind into or solely based on computers/technology. Or in other words, perhaps we soon will have to compete with machines that equal all our skills or surpass them by far.
NeumannAlfred 1 year ago
the future looks bright with science.
esiosan 1 year ago
It disgusts me how the video makes changing your baby to how YOU see fit is all magical and wonderous... It's fucking revolting.
twistedfool420 1 year ago
I don't believe what they say by the end. "We are able to control our own evolution" physically speaking.. that is bullshit.. you can only evolved into something if your body really needs it to the survival or adaptation..I think at this point we are perfectly adapter to what we do nowadays..we might evolve in the future we are are going to be challenged by nature.. how do we control that exactly ??? come on.. we act like we are the best.. but once you reach out in Universe you are nothing..
WWPSdvia 1 year ago
@WWPSdvia What they are talking about there is identifying things in advance... and creating advances in our morphology, intellect etc. to cope with perceived advantages... humans stopped being prone to the rigors of selection for reproduction a long time ago... even to poorest human is in a better more advantageous position than the best lion, tiger etc... we don't need to worry about mundane things like 'what will eat us before we reproduce?'....the answer to that is nothing!
MumblingMickey 1 year ago
@WWPSdvia i agree that it is a little cocky to think we can control our evolution. We however don't evolve into something because your body needs it for survival or adaptation. It is the contrary - Our genes mutate continuously, and whatever is better suited for the current situation survives, taking on its genes with itself... in time you can imagine these genes become norm if it helps that species survive better and multiply.
scarlettenoir 1 year ago
I doubt future humans will be called Homo sapiens. It would be funny if the average future human could move like Wesker from Resident Evil XD. Imagine football or soccer XD.
HybridD91 1 year ago
cool
hinata167 1 year ago
great documentary!
chin2000000 1 year ago 2
Religion was once useful for theorizing, it's still not useless, it is just thought of the wrong way! Religion, or atheism should not be forced.
they should be used to preserve peace. notice: people who share views rarely fight Religion would not be the philosophical kind, but the kind that preserves peace!
note: I am agnostic
Ignuus66 1 year ago
@Ignuus66 Religion is only useful for social reasons. Not advancement. It has too much power in politics and the media.
HybridD91 1 year ago
@HybridD91 I fully agree with you,and also I hate it when religions force their beliefs on others
Ignuus66 1 year ago
earth is humanity's crib....
Ignuus66 1 year ago
sounds great till u watch..... Gattaca
kisinzcemm 1 year ago
I really think possibilities will become endless soon, in fact, to me it's fascinating that through millions of years of evolution, we are the ones "here and now", in probably the most drastic 50 years of human evolution ever! Whether you think that's luck or destiny or whatever, WE will be the ones here to witness it all! Talking apes with bigger brains, the discovery of the ultimate equation of life, inmortality drinks, uber-powerful telescopes...who knows but it's all exciting to me!! :)
albo181 1 year ago
@albo181, almost all periods of human evolution have been "the most dramatic ever." That's just the nature of exponential growth. There's nothing special about our position at all. Our great great great .... grandkids will say the same thing; (How did those poor wretches manage when they lived only about 100 years? What can you learn in such a brief period?)
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
albo181 1 year ago
@albo181, what Ray Kurzweil calls "The Singularity?" watch?v=cc5gIj3jz44
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts, what's your point? A) this video is the "prediction" of one individual who claims to be able to see future events, therefore it's immediately dismissable as being a factual source, and B) His theory completely backs everything that I've said anyway, that "technology is about to explode" and that "we are about to approach the nee of this exponential curve", which he refers to as "singularity". All of which is said to happen within the next 50 years!
albo181 1 year ago
@albo181, I believe he feels it's more like 10 to 15 years away, not 50. But yes, he seems to agree with you. I'm not sure. I think where we are in 15 years depends more on how we handle the political issues that face us today than the technological issues that will empower us more. We haven't even found a way to make our agriculture environmentally benign yet. The real crisis I see coming are consequences of steadily growing externalities in our economies.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
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@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
albo181 1 year ago
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@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
albo181 1 year ago
@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
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@ananiasacts, I have no doubt that in 100 years we will be looked upon as primitive "wretches", but that's not my point. My point is that technology is now so sophisticated that life changing, scientific discoveries are happening daily, faster than ever before. There's no denying it,never in human history has so much progress been made in such little time. The "exponential growth" you refer to is now undertaking a pattern of rapid acceleration and I believe we are becoming very close to the peak
albo181 1 year ago
no this is all wrong, the future of the human race is that it will die out and be replaced with another species just as previous species before homo sapiens died out so will homo sapiens die out at the rise of homo superior.
doctorw2 2 years ago
@doctorw2:Well, perhaps. It should be noted, though, that the average species length is estimated at about 10 million years. That's a long time before we may have to give up the throne. Besides, whatever species that follows us may well involve the whole of sapiens, not just part of it as is usually the case, and therefore there will be no hard distinction between them and us; we'll be them. Rather than our species being in the past, it may well be speciation itself which will change for us.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex It is interesting to speculate on whether some species might replace us, but this will not be the case if civilization persists. The exception would be humans as a whole evolving into another species. There have been some sci-fi tales of a spinoff of our species replacing us.
Albacorewing 1 year ago
@Albacorewing: Au contraire. All we've done is substitute, as a breeder does, artificial for natural selection. We've done nothing to affect mutation or genetic drift. In fact, if we adopt space exploration (inevitable, IMO), that will be the ideal happenstance for radical speciation: more mutations as we leave Earth's protection, really wild environmental changes (won't need legs anymore?), and more advanced selection (artificially developed symbionts, for example). Lots to look forward to.
puncheex 1 year ago
The thought occurred to me, when they showed the mother designing her baby's future eyes: What if we were able to give our babies abnormal features, just for the heck of it? Like purple hair and yellow eyes, with green skin? XD Who knows, maybe crazy-looking genetically engineered or surgically made physical features will be in vogue in the 2080s!
But will poor people have access to this technology? I doubt it. Or maybe we'll be rid of money and have our own food replicators by then. lol
datalal624 2 years ago
That'd most likely happen.
And yes the rich will all be beautiful,smart and strong. Races will be further divided and dominated under this master race. The richest countries will have the man and brain power to create a new world order under a single government. They will enslave a small percentage of us "normies" to keep as a fail-safe in-case genetic engineering makes us all sterile human abominations....or vampires.
......yeah.
Gearz86 2 years ago
@datalal624: It's hard to say. Perhaps in the long run we will solve the economics of scarcity. It's hard to see how that would work, but we can hope. Science Fiction can tell you how it may go: Hogan's "Voyage from Yesteryear" about economics, and perhaps the Gaea Trilogy by John Varley concerning tailoring bodies.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex, solving the economics of scarcity is almost trivial: measure the co2 produced globally each week (already being done with satellites) and distribute an equal share of "rights to emit" to each person. Those wishing to emit more must merely buy the unused portions of those who much have then emitted less in an open market. In such a scheme it's impossible for productivity to rise without increasing the standard of living of everyone fairly quickly.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
I was thinking of it in a rather wider arena than just CO2; solving that would primarily include a way of discovering sufficient clean energy sources that it wouldn't pay to charge for them. If you had that, you wouldn't have a CO2 problem. Most resources could be created with inefficient processes that today just cost too much. And so on. Pie in the sky? You betcha.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex, I disagree we need more technology to solve the problem. We started out able to feed ourselves and have undergone steady and enormous productivity gains ever since then. Yet more people are living in poverty today than 100 years ago. The only explanation is that externalities are diminishing their wealth. co2 isn't the only impact, but it is the best PROXY we have for all of our impact on each other. We could easily correct this problem right now with the technology we have already.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts: Well, I'm all ears. Please explain to me how you're going to do this. All this time I thought we were stumbling, just avoiding to sprawl in a field of glass shards, and the only idea I have is to run faster. How are you going to solve these problems?
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex, We have a satellite network that measures global CO2 now. And we know the population of the earth to better than 99.999% accuracy. It seems to me that merely designing a way to distribute an equal share of CO2 production "rights" to each person, and providing an open market to trade them in, would solve a great many of our most intractable problems and has a huge number of beneficial consequences, from giving us the means to tax the underground economies, to protecting human rights.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
i kind of oppose the aging cure..I mean look how over-populated the Earth is...do we really need people that can just reproduce and not die?..
dying is the ultimate equalizer and without death we can reproduce at explosive rates..
PhillipThunderGrunge 2 years ago 16
Make a law...the consequence of immortality is getting your balls cut off...unless you're a genius.
After all, we need all the help we can get fighting the dumb asses producing more children then they can handle.
Gearz86 2 years ago
I kind of disagree it doesn't need to be that harsh maybe scientists shoudn't even look for a "cure" and instead focus thier attention on more important things
PhillipThunderGrunge 2 years ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge
Ah, but the longer we live, the less we reproduce. I think the death of a person should be in his own hands and not be predetermined. Plus the more we integrate with technology the less food, water, and oxygen we need. However this is coming from me, a crazy transhumanist.
4everkeim 1 year ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge By then humans will learn that 4+ children is not as "fruitful" as once thought. Not only that, we need to stop over consuming.
HybridD91 1 year ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge exatly right do you think for one second we will be given the right to repoduce while living to 200 years old. No chance, everything we do will be monitored death would be a blessing at this stage.
petahsz 1 year ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge well, the thing is, this technology will most likely be used in developed countries, where birth rate is extremely low... look for example Spain, has the lowest birth rates anywhere with about .9 kids per family, and is one of the wealthiest nations... their native population is expected to actually drop... this will most likely become a problem in the future, human depopulation due to low birth rates.
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge Even with the manipulation people would still die eventually, but with it they would probably not feel as rushed to reproduce as quickly so the birth rate would probably slow down to even it out. If they turned off the aging gene completely then people would never get beyond the baby stage and would therefore never be able to reproduce physically. If people really got to that point though we probably would have discovered ways to get resources from and live on other planets
QueenofAntarctica 1 year ago 3
@PhillipThunderGrunge and colonize the cosmos :)
makkreol 1 year ago
@PhillipThunderGrunge true thats why we have to make our buildings 100 times taller than lets say the twins towers RIP. Anyways if we can do that and invent flying cars then we will have like 100,000 people living in the same building. Kinda like the fifth element if you ever seen that movie.
Numba1SouthParkFan 1 month ago
I was born in the wrong age, i'll be the in the future, travel to the milky way Galaxy.
TRITANIA99 2 years ago
Its ok most of the life extension technologies will be aces able to the average Joe we were born in the right time. In fact with such things as nano technology and gene therapy we may be the generation that live to be as old as we want to be. You will die when you want to die crazy concept huh.
stantheman42069 2 years ago
SCIENCE, at it's finest!
miles101457 2 years ago
total overrateing of science
star-trek greats
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eicebleu 2 years ago
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SuperAusBros 2 years ago
ha ha LOL....Happy Thanksgiving
cat8me 2 years ago
Humans are gods, by any and every definition of the word. We may not be responsible for creating the universe, but we are able to control so much of what we find in it, we have changed our way of life from survival to luxury.
boburanus69 2 years ago
indeed but even humans will be extinct one day
Raquelzeebob 2 years ago
We already have influenced our own evolution through keeping folks from dying young from diseases and allowing them to pass their genes with those glitches to the next generation and so on. Genetic engineering will speed up the process, but we have already interfered with Natural Selection. Also, our negative impact on our own biosphere has impacted genetic drift of many species other than ourselves, further affecting our evolutionary process.
saxmanchiro 2 years ago
I suspect that if genetic superhumans (higher intelligence and longer lifespans) become possible, it would probably be a very expensive procedure. So the rich would soon have superior children to the poor, giving them an even greater competitive edge in future job markets. Humans may also be in competition with sentient machines, making cyberneticly enhanced humans a necessary countermeasure. Unenhanced humans would become obsolete.
shawnmcghee1 2 years ago
I really don't like this ending. Designer-babies who is designed perfectly at birth, I just really don't like that thought. And superhumen in the future who all look like 14 year olds. And this ending is encouriging us to do this in the future, I thihnk we should just take it easy, don't make superbabies for god's sake, there has to be a limit to man's dominance and manipulating with nature.
BearWindAppleyard 2 years ago
Why don't you like the thought? Try to find something useful to say, some kind of argument, rather that just stating that you really don't like the thought. There are no limits other than those we find in nature and those we set for ourselves.
Branstrom 2 years ago
I think its a tough subject thats y I maybe dont have good arguments. I think that its ok to corect it if ur baby is going to be sick or have a blemish or smthing, but the thought of an elite kind of look for human beings, like they're some kind of furniture or clothes, it just sikkens me. Maybe the way to get rid of plastic surgery isn't to perform it in the womb, but maybe to accept the way people look from nature. Idk if i'm totally wierd for thinking that.
BearWindAppleyard 2 years ago
maybe a higher realization of the mind might be an outcome where the mind can control where to be re-born after the body dies... But today`s science is only making man lazier and lazier... From written calculations to using computers only makes the body attached to the material world. The power of the mind and the realization of the self from within, is forgotten...
zapxlib 2 years ago
wow, those "designer baby" ideas sound as expensive as sh*t.
danthemusclefiber 2 years ago
the genetic engeneering is good; to make sure the baby wouldn't have 11 fingers; or to make sure the baby isn't paralized
but realy choose how your baby looks.. i don't think that's a good idea, first that will be quite nice, but some companies will design babies for you, and so you can pick one out of 100 or so, and than there are only 100 different people on the whole world ö
thats what i think ^^
electrictreaser 2 years ago 2
yes then it brings up the question how do we really value ourselvels as parents since children are a reflection of ourselves.Sure increased iq etc is a good idea but something like phenotype modifications really is just shallow
MrTvoreo 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it would still be better than bad looks, even if everyone looks painfully similar and attractive
phil12p345 2 years ago
I really can't commit myself to that idea (designerbabies), think it would be immoral (in my oppinion of my own subjective morality).
BearWindAppleyard 2 years ago
I understand that's your feeling and I sympathize with your instinct to "retreat" to just calling it your opinion and your subjective morality, but I think we can make more headway if we resist that instinct sometimes, & try to communicate our feelings to one another.
Let's look at the issue like this: Whatever you value in yourself & others, wouldn't you want to maximize that in your child? Whether it be brains, empathy, musicality, good looks or brawn. Parents already try to, to some degree.
Branstrom 2 years ago 2
You really haven't convinced me of anything, but I think i'll just leave it at that we have very different views on what's important and what isn't so important, I would say totally unnecesary / wierd. you probably think that's a weak answer. (I wouldn't maximize anything in my child, I would want a normal, natural child, I would make sure it was healthy and maybe didn't have very big ears or something like that, I would never reform the face like in this video)
BearWindAppleyard 2 years ago 2
I wouldn't do that either. Can't believe they included that in the video, it's such a bad example/interpretation... I would first & foremost guard against disability, prevent disease, ensure a good biological & cultural basis for psychological health, and so on. But we will certainly, in the long run, have capabilities to go beyond mere safety measures.
Branstrom 2 years ago
I agree on the part with health and dissability, that it comes first. I don't think I'm into going beyond that, I think there's a difference between humen and fx food products, but Maybe it's just me, maybe in the future they would laugh at me. I also think, at the time we don't need to care about safety issues for humen (and animals), and can work on "good looks" and stuff like that, is probably very far away...
BearWindAppleyard 2 years ago
Here's one of many good reads on the subject of what our future evolution might look like: abolitionist (dot) com - written and read by David Pearce, a British philosopher, who believes we will soon abolish the biological basis of suffering (psychological as well as physical pain) in all sentient life.
Branstrom 2 years ago
I don't like the "designer babies" thing.
A parent can't decide what looks good. And the baby could think it's ugly as all hell with what the parents said, and plastic surgery would still be around. :/
But over all, this was a pretty fun video :D
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
Looks like the creators have been watching a lot of Gattaca XD
spicypotato 2 years ago
i dont think there should be super kids i mean kids learn important skills like talking and games through playing they should be able to act like children not adults
shadowdevil999 2 years ago
A very important variable in evolution is the ever changing environment, since humans are capable of manipulating their environment to suit themselves, there seems to be no need for us to further develop. However, the situation will always change, as we learn to adopt to our increasingly technological world. I'd say genetic engineering will be the new evolution and humans are far from our absolute potential(in fact I wonder if there is a limit)
phil12p345 2 years ago 2
interesting video. imagine how gay it will be though if these new super perfect kids are smarter than you.. boast to that they can live to 284 and you are now a cave man compared...there's a new war for ya.. lol.
laurence265 2 years ago
Children TODAY can learn much more at a younger age than they do... that's because our educational system is slow and superfluous.
How can you have one child speak multiple languages, for example, yet another one can't? Because of exposure...
We also tend to stop learning when we get older... it's sad that we learn so much even in our first 10 years of life, that we will probably not replicate for the next 60... if we did, we'd all be speaking 20 languages, and know all sorts of skills.
PillowcaseHead 2 years ago
so true i mean we do practically the exact same thing in public schools for roughly most of primary school(elementary if your american)from ages 7-13.oh and actually its been scientifically shown that people do not lose learning capabilities as we get over older only by lack of practice i gues probably since after college/university your not generally in a learning enviroment
MrTvoreo 2 years ago
I should't have watched this documentary so baked, it was by far the trippiest video ever.
HalfsaleNotice 2 years ago 2
Who would want to stay at the age at 1:51?
Ludde365 2 years ago
someone who actually enjoys life, or that has some reason to do it.
not me thought.
scaglietti03 2 years ago
It's a lot better to look like a grown person forever.
Ludde365 2 years ago
I mean, I agree that religion is stopping us from evolving, but God is more than a simple religion. He or she just wants the best for us, and I know he would support us outside from religion, which is made up by some radical and retrograde people. Just my point of view. I love science!!!
Aeore506 2 years ago 4
I do believe you are one of the few believers who finally gets it. It isn't that people who go into science hate God, its that they don't like religion where groups of people are afraid of the unknown and don't dare ask "what if?".
cekicgrad2006 2 years ago 3
the introduction of religon was a crucial and fascinating stage in human evolution. without it we would not be the humans that we are today.
however, today, religon is now something that has to go.
stickybelvedere 2 years ago 34
I like the point that you make about religion. We have the science we need today to answer the question of life's origins. Time for religion to step back and take its rightful place in history....as history.
HezechiahBartlett 2 years ago
@stickybelvedere, It does seem like the puberty of our species has been stalled by the enormous numbers of folks who simply refuse to take the training wheels off their bicycles.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@stickybelvedere Explain how it was crucial to our evolution and how the end couldn't have been accomplished by secular means.
freethinker923 1 year ago
@freethinker923 I can explain that for you. Religion that seperated church and state limited the power of kings. Until that time populations were at the whim of kings. Get a good king and all is well. But get a bad one and ... not so much.
From religion came the idea that kings also have limits on their authority, and this led to more human rights. A seperate, later advance came when Calvanism taught that earthly accomplishment, but not showiness, was godliness, which led to capital formation
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@stickybelvedere I'd be wary of religion having to 'go' ... I think it needs to be 'replaced'... people need certainty and a goal to be achieved that they can essentially never attain... you remove that...you will cause problems...especially among the more cerebrally challenged members of our species.
We can breed those out if we have the technology to replace their effect on society with technology... but that won't be today nor tomorrow
MumblingMickey 1 year ago
@stickybelvedere: Fully agree.
NeumannAlfred 1 year ago
I like your mind set Omid45 i like that 2 only math and sciences exist religion lame we prove it wrong the old testament so what u stupid beliver make ? oh wait the stupid new testament that was no prive what so ever !!! i can make a stupid book that say oh that rock in your back yard is your god are you stupid enough to belive it oh wait u are
volure1 3 years ago
If someone today told me that i was say genetically engineered to be the way i am i would be utterly disgusted by myself. Who is the other that will determine who i will be? chances are a greater idiot than i am, ouch the utter disgust.
tampoporamen 3 years ago
the best part of this documentary was from part 1 to part 5, the rest was stupid. if you know what i mean :) This was too good. Almost made me cry lol. WOW that part about choosing how your kid will look like, Ex: eye color, hair, nose shape and all that stuff, WOOW i had never thought about that. Go science GO SCIENCE. STOP ALL RELIGIONS AND GOD.
Omid45 3 years ago
this video makes me proud to be a human.
dejawolf 3 years ago 3
THIS WAS AWSOME!!!
I actually searched for some documentary more about our ancestors, for I have exam from human evolution soon and all those australopithecus and homos are giving me a headache, but this showed me a more interesting look on our evolution.
Too bad so much of our potential is focused on past problems (religious desputes) instead of present and future ones.
verycrazyperson 3 years ago
Imagine if someone brings a picture of britney or some other celebrity and goes to one of those baby designers and tell them
"I want my baby to look exactly like her"
Human's notion of beauty is somewhat constant, even though beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
ltintel 3 years ago
I enjoyed watching this documentary programme . Thanks to science and scientists who saved the human race and other races and the living beings from extinction .
CDTOE 3 years ago
Thanks for posting,I agree 100%.Only people who is afraid,weak, lazy, ignorant, because their stupid religions,their own stupidity; they don't deserve to be called as humans.You are MONKEYS dominated by other MONKEYS.We are Gods, because we are existence Itself reproducing Itself, being councious of Itself!!!!!
(You christians, go to your own hell, and leave the science and the humanity alone! You killers of scientists, women, kids and freethinkers !!!!!!!!!!!)
dancingwithoutwords 3 years ago 2
Thank you so much for this great documentary!
pjioayncoe 3 years ago 3
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the idea of designing our own future... a truly scary thought. humans have never been nor ever should be left in charge of such a moral thing only god can play god.
tomfromscotland 3 years ago
Be sure to tell your doctor that if you ever get a life threatening disease. "No, I don't want any of your fancy medicine or surgeries. Only God can play God! If I die it is God's will."
einrobstein 3 years ago 2
go and die caveman.
dejawolf 3 years ago
We don't get around using genetic engineering in order to keep up a healthy gene pool. The other option would be a massive spread of genetic defects and disorders, making it impossible for our species to survive. A world full of cripples this would be. And who wants to take responsibility for that? Or who would prefer euthanasia in order to cut this problem down?
Dorfkanal 3 years ago
i'm sure those super-smart kids of the future will figure a way around those problems.
dejawolf 3 years ago
killer series, thanks for the post.
wanj101982 3 years ago
this touch's very close to Aldous Huxley's vision of our brave new world. Sadly he may really be right but sooner than he thought.
dubwise43 3 years ago
We need first to get rid of the piramidical power structures leading the world. They WILL abuse this self-enhancement. We have to get red rid of all form of supranational institutions, all forms of big territorial states and reintroduce the city states, peoples parliaments of the little states, and intergouvernemental charters in stead of powerful institutions. We also have to aknowledge in the constitution the individual above the collective. Freedom Force Internationa! -> we are prepared!
zacagalaba 3 years ago
i don't believe u should be aloud to pick what your child's skin color or eyes or all that shit should look like thats not right hell whenever i do have kids who knows what they will look like for that matter i'm interracial its all up to chance of your gens
sinfulmizery 3 years ago
I agree. There is a fascist touch to the plans of those scientists. Superhumans, lol, and what will those superhumans do all day? They will have to do the same things that we suprahumans are doing now: study, work, shop, shit, piss, eat, drink, clean, reproduce, relax... So why change?
There is a reason why we are the way we are. But once man thinks he can deliberately modify and improve something by messing with something as complex as human genes, that is what we will get, a huge mess.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
you said "Even today Africans are trying to bleach their skins by means of dangerous substances at the cost of ruining their health."
this is not a genetic change. may be you dont know but genetic engineer had made a healthy green pig and a mouse with 5 legs.
and about change... IS EVOLUTION. our purpose is to evolve, to assure our descendants a better live then our and to save human race from disasters. read more and you will understand. sorry for my unfluent english. im just a kid (15
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
Of course the initial change caused by those substances is not a genetic one, but the following ones may well be as some of the ingredients (e.g. mercuric chloride) impact genes in an arbitrary way, just the way other toxins do.
But the fact that black people are black is genetic, and at the moment unfortunately a lot of Africans are not happy with their skin color, maybe due to a lack of self-confidence and pride in the aftermath of the colonial times, and modern racism even among Africans.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
Regarding evolution, I don't think there is any purpose in it apart from securing survival. And have we not survived till now? 6.x billion humans...
Plus, once you start "improving" humans, the rest of them will have a hard time and be considered second-class humans. After all, you can't turn billions of existing humans into superhumans.
The whole video is stupid and naive. Stopping aging?! Are they crazy? We need to age and die. Life expectancy is already too high in industrialized countries.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
/Regarding evolution, I don't think there is any purpose in it apart from securing survival. And have we not survived till now? 6.x billion humans.../
how you think we can survive when our sun death? or from an asteroid? or from other unimaginable disaster that we dont even know now with such of stupid ppl who want only money sex and food?
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
/Plus, once you start "improving" humans, the rest of them .../
you think we need to make all in one day? and the second fact is that our civilization dont need bilions no more... now we start the robotic age and in 10 - 20 max 30 years we will not need no more idiots who make only to sale something or to wash or to cook or other idiots to make business or all useless jobs for other ppl... think about it :).
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
/The whole video is stupid and naive. Stopping aging?! Are they crazy? We need to age and die. Life expectancy is already too high in industrialized countries. /
they didnt said stop aging... is just tehy will leave more... in fact after the learn so much math and fizic and other stuff why they die at 70-80?... we need to die becouse after 60 years old we cant work and we dont bring something good to civilization...
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
and dont worrry about countries who have too many ppl ( like all)... they will die in a future ww3 intentionally caused to let our civilization to join the new age.
thx
and sorry about unfuent english again. i did my best for 15 years old. i can speak hours about this subject becouse i read many things. if you belive me good if not good anyway
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
ok now im shure... ur dumb.
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
Listen kid, I am in my 40s, unlike you I have to work, thus only limited time to talk about such nonsense. By the time that nightmare might come true, I will be dead anyway, and happy about it. I can't really blame you, when I was your age I was a bit naive, too, ready to fall for such sci-fi crap.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
what you work? you are a priest? you have children? what education you give them said that we don`t need to evolve? you are naive now too. anyway, if you like to think only about today is ur choice. after 2000 years old the humans will say that we are unadvanced, like we say about civilizations who lived 2000 years ago. you cant image what new technology will bring. for you the future is stop in present. is not SF is TRUTH.
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
mikydutzaa, I am also in my 40s. All I can say is that not all people become staid, old, conservative and intimidated by the new The key to understanding anything is to be imaginative and a bit naive, it opens us up to new possibilities if we entertain new ideas and chew them over for a while in our heads. And you are absolutely right btw, In fact many of these technologies are already with us. It is complex ethical issues which have made us pause. necessarily so for this is a big new tech.
marsCubed 3 years ago 4
view this. v v v zeitgeist c0m . :)
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
you'll be dead, and i'll be glad you're dead. go and die caveman.
dejawolf 3 years ago
remember when aristotel said that earth is a globe and not a square? everyone said that is impossible, like you say now and many many many examples
mikydutzaa 3 years ago 2
We have to solve our old problems before we get into designer babies. Even today Africans are trying to bleach their skins by means of dangerous substances at the cost of ruining their health. So I am afraid colored people would soon disappear if humans could chose their skin color. Once we have found out what ideal properties are, our children would be too similar. I am happy I won't be around anymore by then.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
be quiet those few of us who do that, are not the majority, i like being black as a matter of fact. do all small breasted women get breast implants. don't make ignorant racist comment buddy
lulinda22 3 years ago
There was nothing racist about my remark, quite to the contrary. However, skin bleaching already is a big problem in some parts of Africa, because the substances used can affect genes, so it can lead to handicapped babies. I'm afraid there would be great pressure on black parents when it came to chosing their offspring's color because they know that in a still largely racist world their children would have a better life if they were light-skinned.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
yea and do you know something too, in china, there is an epidemic of people who do surgery on their eyes so they look more western. but no one seems to talk about it. there is always this general assumption that black people don't like them selves. yes it happens, but who cares. talk about white people that tan so much that end up getting skin cancers, then pale people wont exist anymore? i know you didn't mean to make a racist remark, but your ignorance made it already.
lulinda22 3 years ago
Well, I disagree. My remarks were not racist just because I commented on black people's actions without mentioning the stupidity of members of all other ethnic groups.
I know that not all black people hate being black, but a lot of them still want to look whiter, especially in Africa. That is what I meant in my first comment. We have to make sure nobody feels the need to change their children's color, before we get into designing babies, which is ridiculous anyway, regardless of the race issue.
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
URSINHOdePELUCHE you are stupid
mikydutzaa 3 years ago
A very impressive statement and display of your own mental capacity...
URSINHOdePELUCHE 3 years ago
This shit is so fucking retarded.
DJcrackbitch 3 years ago
There is a flaw in the commentry. 'We've come a long way from the chimps'. We didn't come from chinps we came from a common ancestor. We are just as evolved as chimps are.
andrewjohngordon 3 years ago
i dont know about all this
ibelogan08 3 years ago
I personally love the prospect of genetic engineering. Despite all the hatred, all the stupidity we homosapiens have been progressing all throughout our history.
Ironically that could very well be our downfall. By attaining the ability to change our environment we have essentially halted evolution. Unless we take our evolution into our own hands, it will remain stagnant and eventually so to will civilization.
I personally am ready to accept any consequences in the name of evolution.
MTheoryGuy 3 years ago 3
we cant live too long, dont fucking mess with aging. We will be too many which will spark the start of conflict.
Dip3rz 3 years ago
Aging kills 100,000 people every single day. That'sround 2 million people dead between when you wrote your comment and now.
...DEAD! ...Forever.
The sooner we end the ongoing global catastrophe of aging the better.
RoboDouche 3 years ago 3
somehow thatd be hott, a 200 year old girl who stays at the age 18
xxfive0gtxx 3 years ago 3
what happens if people never die?
b0grillaz 3 years ago
theres no such thing as adam and eve we've already proved that. We came from apes and thats it.
cheesypeesy2 3 years ago
i hope they dont make super humans. I might mistake a 200 yr old women for a teenager!!
Plus it'd be scary for new borns to start driving lmao
cheesypeesy2 3 years ago
nothings impossible.
SuckMyComment 3 years ago
Well I'm not sure that eugenics it a good way forward for the human race especially if the class system remains the way it is today. But otherwise we have limitless possibilities to look forward to. I for one am excited.
DonoLivesHere 3 years ago
It certainly is good for the classes that can afford it is it not?
And how does that hurt the classes that cannot afford it in the beginning?
Progress is just that, progress and more progress is good for all even if it is first good and better for the richer and the hard working and ambitious.
The weak always pay for their weaknesses, all the hopes and prayers of the weak will never chance that.
ZardexM 3 years ago
So the perfect human is white and has blond hair and blue eyes huh?
RACISTS.
Nutty151 3 years ago
Michael Jackson ?
Phygos2008 3 years ago 2
no its an example dumb ass
roolsin12 3 years ago
no its a joke dumb ass
SuckMyComment 3 years ago
Were they trying to create an Aryan Master Race by manipulating our genes?
Nutty151 3 years ago
Control aging? I'm all for technology and advancement, but let's think about this: Do we REALLY want to live forever? What if everything becomes too crowded?
JonathanClement140 3 years ago
With enough technology we could expand to places never thought of before. Search wiki for terraforming mars.
With enough technology we can overcome just about EVERY problem.
Iwanthax 3 years ago 3
Thanks for posting. I doubt tha we ourselves are clever enough to select the right criteria to make us better persons. Which means that influencing our genetig structure could lead to a de-generating. Who will be allowed to chose? And what reasons and emotions will influence that choice? And what influence will that choice have on our future emotions and decisions?
This scares me.
mixedpixel 3 years ago
The Osmonds?
Chromachronic 3 years ago
im not a pedophile or a supporter of child soldiers, but all i say is that i believe that if some1 recieves the ability to make decisions at the same quality as an adult but are actually very young to the extent it shouldnt EVER been possible to be so advanced at such a age in ur species,that u should be able to be given the same rights to perform what u decide upon and that if ur logic is so overly matured early,that u may trully decide the legitimacy of the sexual act with a partner of any age
Pimpmastahanhduece 4 years ago
wonder why theres laws against things like sex with minors and minor not going to war or being able to vote?But if a six year was as competent and responsable as a 30 year old,shouldnt they be entitled to the same freedoms?Humans until 18 are not considered responsable,but if could,wouldnt u have wanted to be as competent when u were little as when ur were 30?Dont take the innocentness or imagination of the child,but if u could,why would u deprive a child from making the right choices early.
Pimpmastahanhduece 4 years ago
if we could control genes like appearance and aging, it would be like having a cruxis crystal from Tales of Symphonia! lol!!
raigekimaru 4 years ago
I wonder how these ueberkinder will kill off their elders? Soylent Green?
tarnopol 4 years ago
Definitely! Obviously that sort of innovative technology wont be available to everyone. It will probably only be accessible to the very wealthy at first, then it'll probably sprinkle down to some of the middle class people in the most advanced industrialized countries, but billions will still be left out of this process. In order for something like that to flourish so that everyone could benefit, then privatization would have to be done away with, along with the broader economic structure
Xproletariatx 4 years ago
..or there also might be a two class system - who should do all the work if there is no second class people or a third world? Imagine one could built stupid working machines. This scares me even more
mixedpixel 3 years ago
Why stop at humans? L