Is this third movement technically in classical sonata form, or rondo? Its first theme and home key are in D major. Lyrical second theme first appears in dominant key A major, +would be expected to be recapitulated in the home key, but appears here instead in the unconventional key of G major, the subdominant key, which uses the lowest sound of the violin, the open G string. The second theme sounds expressively very different a whole step lower, in G major vs A major. Is this sonata form?
There is NOTHING like hearing the great artists of the past perform LIVE! in this way, we can glean why these particular artists captured the imagination and hearts of concertgoers.
ANY live performance just reinforces our admiration. Would love to hear Francescatti's rendering of Paul Ben-Haim's sonata. The passion of his Hebraic-tinged music can be wonderfully moving.
I was BLESSED to hear his Beh Haim by a friend who is a collector who shared with me! It is exotic, fabulous..I don't have enough superlatives! It was a concert he performed in Germany. It was mesmerizing..I deeply regret that I will never personally attend on of his concerts, but how blessed we are to have some video..and recordings. No wonder Ben-Haim's Sonata is infrequently done--I imagine few can play it with justice!
Thanks O Moonbeam. 1965 huh? Could have sworn I heard some coughing in the second movement. But if this IS a studio recording, how to explain not fixing the ensemble problems @ 2:28? Was the engineer sloppy? Was he drunk? Was the problem discovered after all had gone home? Very Odd
No matter--this is a wondrous performance--warm, free, unpretentious and joyful.
you have a great ear to have picked that up..and I have done production work in a studio..I scarely noticed it until you mentioned it..but my ear is focused on the violin..but it would be a total mare to "fix".near impossible if not impossible..all those instruments would have been on the same mic..this would have been on tape too...it probably would have ended up being a worse "blip" and more serious sounding error than what it is..your ear is so excellent..few heard that.
Wow--at 2:28, the French Horns just take off for no apparent reason--how odd and what bad ensemble for a few pregnant seconds. Was it Schippers fault? Not likely.
How wonderful this is. A concerto I truly DON'T like has given me fresh ears courtesy of the mastery and magic of Francescatti. Superb--this MUST be a performance.
@ipmoic I'll go check on my CD cover and get back...this get my vote as tops for No.1..and I've always been a Zino lover, but the more of his work that I have listened to on CD, the more of my respect he has earned...his Bach is outstanding..different from Milstein, but fresh..I LOVE his Beethoven, I can only refer to his music as pure artistry..he makes me visualize art in my head along with the music; colors, texture, I love the effect he has on my mind.
@ipmoic okay..this was recorded in 1965--and reading one of the reviews, I love the way it is written, "smoldering with exotic slavic feel" How utterly TRUE and that is precisely what Zino captures here that none of us have put our finger on..
@OriginalMoonbeam I wanted to add Arturo..when you listen to this on CD, rather than in segments..it's a bit more seamless..I like the way the startle comes in as if to say "wake up! somethings happening!" But it's less apparent when you don't stop, hit a button and load another video..it's actually quite nice the way it's done...
@ipmoic Listening here again Arturo..true, ZF made this VC for me..this is where I learned to really appreciate and love it..too bad Tchiakovsky didn't hand it over to ZF. A friend with an extensive collection allowed me to hear a live performance of Zino playing Paul ben-Haim's violin sonata done in Salzburg in 1959..totally incredulous..capturing the exotic feel of the piece--how I wish that was on CD! This man had such artistry at his disposal!
Both are really, really..special..but different and I wouldn't want to give up either one...lets see, how would I choose between the two....hmmmm lets see...shoes.....or...
I find shattered entrails to be an inconvenience anyway...leading to acute peritonitis and other very bad, bad things, including hurling...of course, it IS just an expression, but if need be I trust you to borrow my shoes so too might understand the comparison and have a really great catch phrase--then you would get how complimentary this is for Kogan--and that it is of the highest order, but stick with your blame old gut wreching and ruptured appendix...
@kinakina123123 Not all modern virtuosos are machines. Kavakos, Mullova, Gluzman, Mutter, Hadelich, Tetzlaff...are all very distinctive players with singular styles.
Most violinists are focused on merely hitting all the notes..... This performance sings a melody that's Tchaikovsky..... To an even greater degree than Itzhak Perlman, who I've always considered the standard for the Tchaik Violin Concerto.
Love this! Anyone know where I can get the sheet music?
Peanutbuttrluv 2 months ago
Thank you You Tube. i cannot believe that i can't find him on Pandora. shameful
susanneconway 1 year ago
I can remember listening to this while my mother ironed in the early 50's.
i cannot believe that i can't find him on Pandora. shameful
susanneconway 1 year ago
Is this third movement technically in classical sonata form, or rondo? Its first theme and home key are in D major. Lyrical second theme first appears in dominant key A major, +would be expected to be recapitulated in the home key, but appears here instead in the unconventional key of G major, the subdominant key, which uses the lowest sound of the violin, the open G string. The second theme sounds expressively very different a whole step lower, in G major vs A major. Is this sonata form?
Lactoris1 1 year ago
@Lactoris1 Who cares? It's a great song either way
rapter9800 1 year ago
@rapter9800 Yeah, who cares! I have just listened, for the first time, to someone who could easily rival Oistrakh.
elzbieta52 1 year ago
Ms. Moonbeam,
There is NOTHING like hearing the great artists of the past perform LIVE! in this way, we can glean why these particular artists captured the imagination and hearts of concertgoers.
ANY live performance just reinforces our admiration. Would love to hear Francescatti's rendering of Paul Ben-Haim's sonata. The passion of his Hebraic-tinged music can be wonderfully moving.
ipmoic 2 years ago
I was BLESSED to hear his Beh Haim by a friend who is a collector who shared with me! It is exotic, fabulous..I don't have enough superlatives! It was a concert he performed in Germany. It was mesmerizing..I deeply regret that I will never personally attend on of his concerts, but how blessed we are to have some video..and recordings. No wonder Ben-Haim's Sonata is infrequently done--I imagine few can play it with justice!
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
Thanks O Moonbeam. 1965 huh? Could have sworn I heard some coughing in the second movement. But if this IS a studio recording, how to explain not fixing the ensemble problems @ 2:28? Was the engineer sloppy? Was he drunk? Was the problem discovered after all had gone home? Very Odd
No matter--this is a wondrous performance--warm, free, unpretentious and joyful.
ipmoic 2 years ago
you have a great ear to have picked that up..and I have done production work in a studio..I scarely noticed it until you mentioned it..but my ear is focused on the violin..but it would be a total mare to "fix".near impossible if not impossible..all those instruments would have been on the same mic..this would have been on tape too...it probably would have ended up being a worse "blip" and more serious sounding error than what it is..your ear is so excellent..few heard that.
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
Wow--at 2:28, the French Horns just take off for no apparent reason--how odd and what bad ensemble for a few pregnant seconds. Was it Schippers fault? Not likely.
How wonderful this is. A concerto I truly DON'T like has given me fresh ears courtesy of the mastery and magic of Francescatti. Superb--this MUST be a performance.
What year--anyone?
ipmoic 2 years ago 2
@ipmoic I'll go check on my CD cover and get back...this get my vote as tops for No.1..and I've always been a Zino lover, but the more of his work that I have listened to on CD, the more of my respect he has earned...his Bach is outstanding..different from Milstein, but fresh..I LOVE his Beethoven, I can only refer to his music as pure artistry..he makes me visualize art in my head along with the music; colors, texture, I love the effect he has on my mind.
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
@ipmoic okay..this was recorded in 1965--and reading one of the reviews, I love the way it is written, "smoldering with exotic slavic feel" How utterly TRUE and that is precisely what Zino captures here that none of us have put our finger on..
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
@OriginalMoonbeam I wanted to add Arturo..when you listen to this on CD, rather than in segments..it's a bit more seamless..I like the way the startle comes in as if to say "wake up! somethings happening!" But it's less apparent when you don't stop, hit a button and load another video..it's actually quite nice the way it's done...
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
@ipmoic Listening here again Arturo..true, ZF made this VC for me..this is where I learned to really appreciate and love it..too bad Tchiakovsky didn't hand it over to ZF. A friend with an extensive collection allowed me to hear a live performance of Zino playing Paul ben-Haim's violin sonata done in Salzburg in 1959..totally incredulous..capturing the exotic feel of the piece--how I wish that was on CD! This man had such artistry at his disposal!
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
¡ Soberbio !
jafigueroa41 2 years ago 3
sheer perfection-but that was always the standard for Mr. Francescatti
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago 3
great performance - but not the gut shattering level of Kogan's 3rd movement. A tad slow for my taste.
calloffthedogs 2 years ago
hmm...
Kogan=my Betsy Johnson Shoes (love!)
Zino= a night of passionate love
Both are really, really..special..but different and I wouldn't want to give up either one...lets see, how would I choose between the two....hmmmm lets see...shoes.....or...
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
Ms. Pammie! Have you taken leave? I shall be right over to help you with this most difficult of choices! Worry no longer!
Violinjunky 2 years ago 3
I have always done a good job at thinking for myself..but thanks anyway Junk.
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
I find shattered entrails to be an inconvenience anyway...leading to acute peritonitis and other very bad, bad things, including hurling...of course, it IS just an expression, but if need be I trust you to borrow my shoes so too might understand the comparison and have a really great catch phrase--then you would get how complimentary this is for Kogan--and that it is of the highest order, but stick with your blame old gut wreching and ruptured appendix...
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago
woot, nice upload
AntiAssassin 3 years ago 4
You can tell the old pros from the modern music machines. Some nice interpretation here. Love it.
kinakina123123 3 years ago 5
@kinakina123123 Not all modern virtuosos are machines. Kavakos, Mullova, Gluzman, Mutter, Hadelich, Tetzlaff...are all very distinctive players with singular styles.
violatione 1 year ago
What a wonderful and unique interpretation! =]
violinist102 3 years ago 5
Most violinists are focused on merely hitting all the notes..... This performance sings a melody that's Tchaikovsky..... To an even greater degree than Itzhak Perlman, who I've always considered the standard for the Tchaik Violin Concerto.
Music2Die4 3 years ago 5
what an excellent anlaysis. Tchaikovsky really was the master of melody and this is encapsulted here perfectly by Francescatti
themusicdr 2 years ago