I know this wasn't the true ending, but it's beautiful. I finished this part of the story, thanks to the HD Collection, and I loved every bit. Kojima, why aren't you writing scripts for Hollywood? And thanks for the collection too~<3
@caspertjuuh Too bad for you :/ Well, there are several videos of it on YouTube, I recommend watching them :) I never delete save files for games I like (having spent several hours and nice mories with them) ^^
This was probably one of the most amazing parts in the entire Metal Gear franchise. When the music started playing after that pretty brutal bossfight it was pretty emotional.
Fuck Solid Snake, Big Boss is way more developed. He didn't have the technology Snake had and he accomplished more than Snake ever did. He fought Snake in his later years. If he were the same age, he'd kill Snake with little effort. Vic Boss!
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker is one of the few games released in this generation with good storylines. I wonder why developers can't make tales like this anyomore?
This was like a mixture of Ghost in the Shell (even Strangelove said Ghost in the machine and Snake's seiyuu is actually Batou from that series) and Space Oddysey. I mean... Peace Walker was like HAL on his last breath... Davey, Davey...
men im sorry but thats not the final real final is the chapter 5 u need capture zadornov 7 times the last paz is in the metal gear zeke u need fight whit paz D:
the great thing about the mgs series is each one is different and always keeps you guessing and even with it ending at mgs4 it still didnt tell you anything so you still feel like the government is keeping secrets from you
I kinda actually think metal gear solid 2 had a better story than mgs4, because mgs2 kept you more engage and it had all these conpiracies tied up, and you learn more about these secrets when you meet new people throughout the game, that's what kept mgs2 so good. In mgs4, the only thing you're doing is finding liquid and destroying the AI or whatever sons of the patriots sytem...I think all of the games in this series are excellent, they are different each of them which is why the series rocks!
@solidsnoop29 it's not really faire to compare the storyline between the two games. Of course mgs4 is the final send off for solid snake so story had to come to an end. mgs2 story was alrite but it wasnt all taht great either. It was way way too confusing and too much plot twist. that's wat made mgs2 not good as mgs1 or mgs3.
THIS ISNT THE ENDING. haha sorry 2 ruin de REAL ending 4 everbody but u should make ur metal gear zeke at its weakest 4 when u have 2 kill paz lol first snake raped her in a box nd now he has 2 kill her
@belmont1960 I concur a million times over. The character that gets me all the time. Ocelot, his connections to people in the highest places remove him of all suspicion and he seems to outsmart and surpass his superiors with his elusive movements.
It would be more correct to say He is the real hero of the Metal Gear story. After all his plan was successful in destroying The Patriots for good. A worthy sacrifice to put an end to the man who started it all (Zero)
AH!!! I wish I had a PS3 and had all the games of Metal Gear solid. This is my 1st MGS game and i have to say the story and everything is just fuckin awesome. i beat it today. all my friends kept calling my cell to play xbox i turned it off and kept it off until i beat the game lol :D! even though i am missing a shit load of information about wtf happend and why it happend. i love this game :)
@gotokill2 Well this is one of the best games to start. This game, Portable Ops, and Snake Eater are prequels to the original Metal Gear games and explain a lot to those of us that started with the first games. If you're interested in playing more, you should start with Metal Gear Solid 3. It's where the story all begins. If you can, fing the Substinence version. In that verion it also comes with a second disc that has the very first two games that you can only play on an emulator these days.
Dude you guys are idiots. In Fox Hound in the 90's Big Boss made every member have to wear a bandanna. Are you guys really make a big deal over a bandanna gay MGs fan boys. never knowing shit
@DTown70 No, he didn't make everyone wear a bandanna in FoxHound. Snake did as a tribute to his mentor the same way Naked Snake did in memory of The Boss.
@bbodine61 your an idiot. Play MG1 and MG2. Big Boss tules for fox Hound in was for everyone to wear a bandanna it says it in the game it's self. Not only that MGS1 gaem booklet states it.
@DTown70 I wouldn't consider myself an idiot. At the most I'm mistaken, but certainly no idiot. And as for the bandanna that little fact would be taken out in later titles. And I have played Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake all the way through.
Kaz so anoying in game.CAN YOU STFU KAZ!!WHILE I PLAYING!YOU ALWAYS SAID Boss!Haiyaku haiyaku,.what in hurry you need.while i saw a hostage girl you said send to our mother field.if i find boy you said our room was full damn you kaz.
You can get a different ending if you complete Metal Gear Zeke. You get to fight it, as it gets hijacked by Paz. Also, theres an extra op where you get busy with Paz lol.
@THECHIEF103 It's not a different ending, its an ending that happens after this "ending". At the point in this video you're not really done with the story, it just seems that way.
its confusing, big boss throwing away the bandana....how the hell did his successor solid snake procured one...?
there is no point on having metal gear 1-2, solid 1-4 to exist...why? THERE IS ONLY ONE ROOM FOR THE METAL GEAR...if its an AI...a room for one processor not a flesh and blood man...
Instead of coming up with a decent explanation about Outer Heaven you totally shit on MGS3 by making The Boss as a "Ghost in a Shell" Metal Gear hybrid and totally leave out the Big Boss transformation characters birth.
@mhrfg lol the story seems alright to me, also seems funny how peace walker's head is so round and the idea of the AI controlled bosses was pretty cool
Na.. The Boss/ A.I. is just a bullshit plot in my opinion, Its just too damn far-fetched and this story should of been about Naked Snake becoming Big Boss and ultimately ending with him wearing a trenchcoat, this was just another MGS3 spin-off I'm not very impressed.
@mhrfg lol still interesting though :P but...i just...dont quite understand...where the hell did they get all the technology for the metal gears, shagohad and the A.I. machines that look like aliens!!!!!!!
@mhrfg not like metal gear rly made much sense in the first place lol, how would you build a machine such as a metal gear, and get all the technology for it when robotics hasent been perfected yet, and same with the railgun which needs a ton of power to use
Well you see MGS was released in 1998 and is set in 2005 so It's much more realistic compared to this..
I mean Kojima made MGS very realistic in an unrealistic setting which was brilliantly done but this is a load of crap that shits on MGS3's story which was good with the add on story from Portable Ops but this ruined It for me.
@mhrfg Really? I felt this was the best of the Metal Gear games story-wise. I mean, besides Metal Gear Solid 2 were all the huge Patriots plot twists conspiracy theories come into play.
I have the game and have seen the ending in full, this story is one of the best in the series? Absolutely not.
MGS2's story was terribly communicated. A story-line that's designed to confuse you was a bad move on Kojima's part and the last minute debut of Raiden enraged the fans too.
MGS1, MGS3, MGS4 are his best work. MGS3 was the best story that shows us how the government works.. hell I'd even give Portable Ops more credit than Peace Walker when It comes to conspiracies.
@mhrfg I do agree that MGS3 was best at telling its story, it was delivered well, which was the "Acheales Heel" in MGS2. It had a great story, but it was delievered in a manner that does outright confuse the player till they play it again or concentrate to a ridiculous extent, that being my only complaint to MGS2s story. As for the Raiden bit, I did hate it at first but now I only see it as nit-picking. The game really wouldnt have been all that much better or worse if you play as Snake.
Yeah well again MGS2's story which leads you to believe that there's a group of 12 men "The Patriots" and then they are all dead 100 years, but really they never mattered because the real Patriots are later A.I.'s and then they add the ENTIRE cast of MGS3 to the mix in the sequel?!
LOL! MIND FUCK!
It just makes no sense, or rather very little sense when you look at the big picture and the series as a whole.
Yeah but you couldn't of figured that out until the sequel was released 3 YEARS LATER.
Ergo the idea was flawed, they spent 3 years coming up with the Philosophers concept just to explain The Patriots riddle which was then replaced with The A.I. Patriots concept.
The whole thing was designed to confuse the player and It worked, lets just leave It at that..
@mhrfg Actually the story of MGS3 was in development early in the makings of MGS2, the same as how MGS2s story was deep in development during the making of MGS. They originally weren't going to have the phone call between Ocelot and Solidus at the end of MGS, but when they had the basic structure of MGS2s story thought up they put it in when MGS was nearing it's completion. The only time Kojima didnt have a sequels story thought up was between MG and MG2, and between MG2 and MGS. PW and PO too
Don't misinterpret what I said, fans couldn't have known that information unlike the developers & writers. Players were practically clueless about the ending.
Kojima was originally going to leave after MGS2 but had to ultimately finish the entire series, my point is the story of MGS2 wasn't transitioned well over to the fans perspective since they obviously didn't know anything outside of what had happened in MGS1!
@mhrfg I don't think confusing was the desired effect they were looking for, like I said the story wasn't told as well as the story actually was, if that makes sense. I think it wound up being confusing when they were just trying to make it deep, like I said earlier it wasn't delievered well enough. But thats just my thoughts, if they did actually try to make it confusing I think it would be to make the story seem more deep than it was, not intending to leave players scratching their heads.
No they probably didn't want to confuse you but regardless they succeeded to do so.
They make the ending confusing ultimately because with The Patriots all dead you are left without an answer, you absolutely must go back and play It again or at the very least research the idea and find a solution.
Ergo, It is confusing whether or not It was intentional or unintentional, there is by far way too much information to intake to a single playthrough to understand the plot.
That is another mark of Kojima's plan to confuse you, simply too much information and input. Along with this story's characters Rose mainly, she and "The Colonel" are never "really" there and are just A.I.'s until she is shown at the end, Its all just too much data to comprehend.
MGS1's plot is understandable in It's final moments because the President (Solidus Snake) is very much alive and that can be considered "deep" but this is not, in my humble opinion.
@mhrfg And your an idoit also. On the Internet polls MGS2 is highest on the polls. Maybe your just too slow to understand it. Not only that It still out beats MGS3 and 4 in terms of reviews. It's praised for it's philosophical and physiological concept on human ambition and society structure.
Maybe MGS2 has more reviews because Its older, ever think of that moron?
Hell no the story isn't as good as MGS3 or MGS4.
"Praised for it's philosophical and physiological concept"
Yeah well Its a fucking video game, It had an extremely complicated story to which you needed to play It over and over, you play MGS3 once and you understand the story-line and that's common sense, even Kojima admitted It so stop being an "idiot".
@mhrfg LOL i like how you said Kojima admittted something but didn't admit nothing but saying MGS2 was his greatest game. And not only that thats why fans love MGS2 because after you understand it it's like WOW what a game. It only takes two playthroughs to understand. And if it took you more than your just an idiot. MGS3 was simple because it was made like that. MG2,mgs1,MGS2, are the most complex. MGS4 was a good game but had a horrible storyline. It's bashed so much. And i agree it sucks
I'm no idiot, I have my opinion, MGS2 is a good game, story is terribly translated to the gamer. No game should take more than 2 PLAYTHROUGHS to understand.
I understood the story, others did not. They are not dumb, Its the story that takes time to absorb and workout, there is too much data to digest in a single run, MGS2 is a very short game without all this content also.
MGS4's story was great, better than MGS2's and was more about the characters than the story/game Itself.
man this is really sad...They used the boss again even after she was already dead...Jeez kojima hits the nail on the head when showing how goverments work in secret for dirty dealings
@ToyGuruMan Technically, the Government wasn't even involved in this case. It was some nutcase ex-CIA Director named Hot Coldman who was running a rogue CIA unit known as Peace Walker to satisfy his perverse view of deterrance.
@ToyGuruMan Well, (SPOILERS) Cipher (the Patriots) was involved, and as it now has power over the Government, in that sense, yes, the government was involved, but in terms of the actual government itself, no, it wasn't involved.
This is not really the ending.
ESpro5000 2 days ago
It goes...best story IMO MGS=MGS3-MGS4-2
guilhermejrmarin 3 weeks ago
guys can i get some tips.... how can i get on to the roof on the part of miners residence
to get the documents...its an extra ops,, documents retrieval no.31..
iskalafufo 4 weeks ago
is there allready a new metal gear 2012...
iskalafufo 4 weeks ago
lol snake stared peace walker down until it started to dance like A BAWS
elixa4 1 month ago
its not the end :P
mruploader1996 2 months ago 3
I know this wasn't the true ending, but it's beautiful. I finished this part of the story, thanks to the HD Collection, and I loved every bit. Kojima, why aren't you writing scripts for Hollywood? And thanks for the collection too~<3
LightAndDarkVen 3 months ago in playlist Metal Gear Solid
his is not the ending, people!!! The final boss is Metal Gear ZEKE controlled by Paz!
YouNoobxD94 3 months ago
@YouNoobxD94 FUCK, i deleted my save game thought I was done
caspertjuuh 2 months ago
@caspertjuuh Too bad for you :/ Well, there are several videos of it on YouTube, I recommend watching them :) I never delete save files for games I like (having spent several hours and nice mories with them) ^^
YouNoobxD94 2 months ago
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この歌は何と言う歌ですか？
sasiharayuki 4 months ago
この歌は何と言う歌ですか?
sasiharayuki 4 months ago
This ending is wonderful :D
Bowserkralle 5 months ago
I'ma be honest..... I fukken cried.
mustang750r 5 months ago
This was probably one of the most amazing parts in the entire Metal Gear franchise. When the music started playing after that pretty brutal bossfight it was pretty emotional.
TheSphinxNL 6 months ago
you know at the beggining of that end i whas seriously like
NO PLZ DON'T LET MRE FIGHT IT AGAIN
nintendofan53412 7 months ago
Guys, this isnt the ending, you still have to battle METAL GEAR ZEKE. That's the true ending.
BillandBubby 7 months ago
Thats nor the ending. Serach for the real ending
FranziskaD1 11 months ago
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!
BEST GAME EVAAR!
MehmetKabak 11 months ago
Fuck Solid Snake, Big Boss is way more developed. He didn't have the technology Snake had and he accomplished more than Snake ever did. He fought Snake in his later years. If he were the same age, he'd kill Snake with little effort. Vic Boss!
MikeNepo 1 year ago
@MikeNepo In fact, with an entire nation at his side, he fell in the hands of Solid Snake twice.
WiseTube 11 months ago
@MikeNepo You said "Fuck Solid Snake" so thumbs down!
WorldOfSnakes 11 months ago
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker is one of the few games released in this generation with good storylines. I wonder why developers can't make tales like this anyomore?
noob11492 1 year ago
the graphics are really bad
TheThecooldude765 1 year ago
@TheThecooldude765 It's a PSP, so actually, these graphics are FUCKING EXCELLENT for a handheld.
MikeNepo 1 year ago 17
@TheThecooldude765 excuse me troll!
d1jal 10 months ago
@TheThecooldude765 Yet it's probably the best looking game on the PSP....
nightfall91 10 months ago
@TheThecooldude765 Go. Fuck. Yourself.
It's a PSP game fucktard.
stormdumb 9 months ago
it looks just like crying wolf of guns of the patriots. thats its roll.
deathto5 1 year ago
*cries*
UnlimitedHeaven 1 year ago
Sing, sing a song, sing out loud, sing out strong...
très belle chanson... the boss tu nous manque!!
kaos1080 1 year ago
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if you cried, you a faggot
phantom1000A 1 year ago
@phantom1000A The people who cried have souls.
stormdumb 9 months ago
This was like a mixture of Ghost in the Shell (even Strangelove said Ghost in the machine and Snake's seiyuu is actually Batou from that series) and Space Oddysey. I mean... Peace Walker was like HAL on his last breath... Davey, Davey...
Mikels2000 1 year ago
strangelove crying sounds like a girl crying because her mother won buy her candy
123poprocker 1 year ago
Chapter 5's ending: Shit.
Chapter 4's ending: The greatest and most emotionally moving ending I've ever seen in a video game.
burninator14 1 year ago
men im sorry but thats not the final real final is the chapter 5 u need capture zadornov 7 times the last paz is in the metal gear zeke u need fight whit paz D:
200elmejor 1 year ago
the great thing about the mgs series is each one is different and always keeps you guessing and even with it ending at mgs4 it still didnt tell you anything so you still feel like the government is keeping secrets from you
MrPetecbut 1 year ago
This ending is very good.
tet928 1 year ago
the bit where the AI starts singing reminds me of close encounters of the first kind, when the bleeping kicks in.
MrJmaxted 1 year ago
I kinda actually think metal gear solid 2 had a better story than mgs4, because mgs2 kept you more engage and it had all these conpiracies tied up, and you learn more about these secrets when you meet new people throughout the game, that's what kept mgs2 so good. In mgs4, the only thing you're doing is finding liquid and destroying the AI or whatever sons of the patriots sytem...I think all of the games in this series are excellent, they are different each of them which is why the series rocks!
solidsnoop29 1 year ago
@solidsnoop29 it's not really faire to compare the storyline between the two games. Of course mgs4 is the final send off for solid snake so story had to come to an end. mgs2 story was alrite but it wasnt all taht great either. It was way way too confusing and too much plot twist. that's wat made mgs2 not good as mgs1 or mgs3.
MessageInBlood1 1 year ago
i want the song it singing.
BrutalWaffle 1 year ago
THIS ISNT THE ENDING. haha sorry 2 ruin de REAL ending 4 everbody but u should make ur metal gear zeke at its weakest 4 when u have 2 kill paz lol first snake raped her in a box nd now he has 2 kill her
imS34N 1 year ago
THE BOSS....
She's taking my tears again...
battlefields2mine 1 year ago
"PEACE!"
spartan117fail 1 year ago
cant understand what there saying
alman41 1 year ago
MGS(in my opinion) and Final fantasy have the Best Stories in the list of my game..
tingsh321 1 year ago
Amazing. the Metal Gear Solid saga always impresm me with the stories.
belmont1960 1 year ago 31
@belmont1960 and their jokes
johncmcham 8 months ago
@johncmcham yes, that's a good point too.
belmont1960 8 months ago
@belmont1960 I concur a million times over. The character that gets me all the time. Ocelot, his connections to people in the highest places remove him of all suspicion and he seems to outsmart and surpass his superiors with his elusive movements.
It would be more correct to say He is the real hero of the Metal Gear story. After all his plan was successful in destroying The Patriots for good. A worthy sacrifice to put an end to the man who started it all (Zero)
Mesmereyes 3 months ago
@Mesmereyes You are right about that, Ocelot is my favorite character of the metal gear saga as an antagonist and as a companion.
belmont1960 3 months ago
what the name of the song when PW drown herself, it familiar but i cant remember the name(stranglove said that The Boss song)
PNCGOD 1 year ago
@PNCGOD sing a song
bleach713marco 1 year ago
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AH!!! I wish I had a PS3 and had all the games of Metal Gear solid. This is my 1st MGS game and i have to say the story and everything is just fuckin awesome. i beat it today. all my friends kept calling my cell to play xbox i turned it off and kept it off until i beat the game lol :D! even though i am missing a shit load of information about wtf happend and why it happend. i love this game :)
gotokill2 1 year ago 2
@gotokill2 Well this is one of the best games to start. This game, Portable Ops, and Snake Eater are prequels to the original Metal Gear games and explain a lot to those of us that started with the first games. If you're interested in playing more, you should start with Metal Gear Solid 3. It's where the story all begins. If you can, fing the Substinence version. In that verion it also comes with a second disc that has the very first two games that you can only play on an emulator these days.
bbodine61 1 year ago
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gotokill2 1 year ago
Dude you guys are idiots. In Fox Hound in the 90's Big Boss made every member have to wear a bandanna. Are you guys really make a big deal over a bandanna gay MGs fan boys. never knowing shit
DTown70 1 year ago
@DTown70 No, he didn't make everyone wear a bandanna in FoxHound. Snake did as a tribute to his mentor the same way Naked Snake did in memory of The Boss.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61 your an idiot. Play MG1 and MG2. Big Boss tules for fox Hound in was for everyone to wear a bandanna it says it in the game it's self. Not only that MGS1 gaem booklet states it.
DTown70 1 year ago
@DTown70 I wouldn't consider myself an idiot. At the most I'm mistaken, but certainly no idiot. And as for the bandanna that little fact would be taken out in later titles. And I have played Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake all the way through.
bbodine61 1 year ago
How do you defeat it? The time is so short. Only have 1 minute and 30 seconds defeat it. Is their a way too stop it.
ThePokeCake 1 year ago
Kaz so anoying in game.CAN YOU STFU KAZ!!WHILE I PLAYING!YOU ALWAYS SAID Boss!Haiyaku haiyaku,.what in hurry you need.while i saw a hostage girl you said send to our mother field.if i find boy you said our room was full damn you kaz.
koneki6787 1 year ago
@koneki6787 you know, you ENABLED his voice in the first place. you probably installed the audio codec data on your psp.... lol pwn'd.
IntricationZ 1 year ago
@koneki6787
lol I know what you mean lol
kimchan008 1 year ago
omg...sing a song...really? REALLY? That was sad...and um...weird. -enjoys the show tunes-
arelimoon29 1 year ago
You can get a different ending if you complete Metal Gear Zeke. You get to fight it, as it gets hijacked by Paz. Also, theres an extra op where you get busy with Paz lol.
THECHIEF103 1 year ago
@THECHIEF103 It's not a different ending, its an ending that happens after this "ending". At the point in this video you're not really done with the story, it just seems that way.
bbodine61 1 year ago
so what.. the boss is robocop? ugh...
YoGetOutDaWay 1 year ago
peace walker is a evangelion whit soul of the boss XDDD
FTW kojima, give me your shit! XDD
000Moli000 1 year ago
duh, solid snake had bandana in metal gear 1 and 2...
gyuh2bu 1 year ago
its confusing, big boss throwing away the bandana....how the hell did his successor solid snake procured one...?
there is no point on having metal gear 1-2, solid 1-4 to exist...why? THERE IS ONLY ONE ROOM FOR THE METAL GEAR...if its an AI...a room for one processor not a flesh and blood man...
gyuh2bu 1 year ago
@gyuh2bu Umm, Solid Snake never had Big Boss' bandanna...
RichardTran0 1 year ago
The Boss truly wanted peace in the end, she sacrficed herself twice sorta to do it.
ForTehNguyen 1 year ago
hey i need help!! i need the id card to enter the lab where strangelove is...before the battle with the flying metal gear...help!
M0r4D 1 year ago
@M0r4D
thats easy find someone with an orange jacket then knoc him out or put him to sleep and search him lol
kimchan008 1 year ago
@M0r4D . jesus you'r fucking dumb.
imUntraceable 1 year ago
I have to say I'm very disappointed Mr.Kojima.
Instead of coming up with a decent explanation about Outer Heaven you totally shit on MGS3 by making The Boss as a "Ghost in a Shell" Metal Gear hybrid and totally leave out the Big Boss transformation characters birth.
Very let down indeed.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg if you dont like the games then dont watch the videos on it, in my opinion this game looks really fun, and looks pretty interesting
Aznknight102 1 year ago
@Aznknight102
Like I said, the story is disappointment.. however the game is great.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg lol the story seems alright to me, also seems funny how peace walker's head is so round and the idea of the AI controlled bosses was pretty cool
Aznknight102 1 year ago
@Aznknight102
Na.. The Boss/ A.I. is just a bullshit plot in my opinion, Its just too damn far-fetched and this story should of been about Naked Snake becoming Big Boss and ultimately ending with him wearing a trenchcoat, this was just another MGS3 spin-off I'm not very impressed.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg lol still interesting though :P but...i just...dont quite understand...where the hell did they get all the technology for the metal gears, shagohad and the A.I. machines that look like aliens!!!!!!!
Aznknight102 1 year ago
@Aznknight102
Exactly It doesn't make logical sense, Its meant to be the 1970's..
In Metal Gear Solid, REX was a big deal and It was based in 2005, so how in the hell does this thing not contradict that?
Great game and It's a shame about the retarded storyline.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg not like metal gear rly made much sense in the first place lol, how would you build a machine such as a metal gear, and get all the technology for it when robotics hasent been perfected yet, and same with the railgun which needs a ton of power to use
Aznknight102 1 year ago
@Aznknight102
Well you see MGS was released in 1998 and is set in 2005 so It's much more realistic compared to this..
I mean Kojima made MGS very realistic in an unrealistic setting which was brilliantly done but this is a load of crap that shits on MGS3's story which was good with the add on story from Portable Ops but this ruined It for me.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg Really? I felt this was the best of the Metal Gear games story-wise. I mean, besides Metal Gear Solid 2 were all the huge Patriots plot twists conspiracy theories come into play.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@mhrfg Watch the real ending. You might have a change of heart, not going to spoil it but from what you said I think you'll like it.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61
I have the game and have seen the ending in full, this story is one of the best in the series? Absolutely not.
MGS2's story was terribly communicated. A story-line that's designed to confuse you was a bad move on Kojima's part and the last minute debut of Raiden enraged the fans too.
MGS1, MGS3, MGS4 are his best work. MGS3 was the best story that shows us how the government works.. hell I'd even give Portable Ops more credit than Peace Walker when It comes to conspiracies.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg I do agree that MGS3 was best at telling its story, it was delivered well, which was the "Acheales Heel" in MGS2. It had a great story, but it was delievered in a manner that does outright confuse the player till they play it again or concentrate to a ridiculous extent, that being my only complaint to MGS2s story. As for the Raiden bit, I did hate it at first but now I only see it as nit-picking. The game really wouldnt have been all that much better or worse if you play as Snake.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61
Yeah well again MGS2's story which leads you to believe that there's a group of 12 men "The Patriots" and then they are all dead 100 years, but really they never mattered because the real Patriots are later A.I.'s and then they add the ENTIRE cast of MGS3 to the mix in the sequel?!
LOL! MIND FUCK!
It just makes no sense, or rather very little sense when you look at the big picture and the series as a whole.
And LMAO at DTown70, dudes hilarious.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg The 12 names they find at the end were the Philosiphers. It was the Patriots way of throwing anyone off of their trail.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61
Yeah but you couldn't of figured that out until the sequel was released 3 YEARS LATER.
Ergo the idea was flawed, they spent 3 years coming up with the Philosophers concept just to explain The Patriots riddle which was then replaced with The A.I. Patriots concept.
The whole thing was designed to confuse the player and It worked, lets just leave It at that..
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg Actually the story of MGS3 was in development early in the makings of MGS2, the same as how MGS2s story was deep in development during the making of MGS. They originally weren't going to have the phone call between Ocelot and Solidus at the end of MGS, but when they had the basic structure of MGS2s story thought up they put it in when MGS was nearing it's completion. The only time Kojima didnt have a sequels story thought up was between MG and MG2, and between MG2 and MGS. PW and PO too
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61
Don't misinterpret what I said, fans couldn't have known that information unlike the developers & writers. Players were practically clueless about the ending.
Kojima was originally going to leave after MGS2 but had to ultimately finish the entire series, my point is the story of MGS2 wasn't transitioned well over to the fans perspective since they obviously didn't know anything outside of what had happened in MGS1!
The game was designed to confuse, It worked.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg I don't think confusing was the desired effect they were looking for, like I said the story wasn't told as well as the story actually was, if that makes sense. I think it wound up being confusing when they were just trying to make it deep, like I said earlier it wasn't delievered well enough. But thats just my thoughts, if they did actually try to make it confusing I think it would be to make the story seem more deep than it was, not intending to leave players scratching their heads.
bbodine61 1 year ago
@bbodine61
No they probably didn't want to confuse you but regardless they succeeded to do so.
They make the ending confusing ultimately because with The Patriots all dead you are left without an answer, you absolutely must go back and play It again or at the very least research the idea and find a solution.
Ergo, It is confusing whether or not It was intentional or unintentional, there is by far way too much information to intake to a single playthrough to understand the plot.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@bbodine61
Continued...
That is another mark of Kojima's plan to confuse you, simply too much information and input. Along with this story's characters Rose mainly, she and "The Colonel" are never "really" there and are just A.I.'s until she is shown at the end, Its all just too much data to comprehend.
MGS1's plot is understandable in It's final moments because the President (Solidus Snake) is very much alive and that can be considered "deep" but this is not, in my humble opinion.
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg And your an idoit also. On the Internet polls MGS2 is highest on the polls. Maybe your just too slow to understand it. Not only that It still out beats MGS3 and 4 in terms of reviews. It's praised for it's philosophical and physiological concept on human ambition and society structure.
DTown70 1 year ago
@DTown70
LMAO! at you calling me an "idoit", nice fail.
Maybe MGS2 has more reviews because Its older, ever think of that moron?
Hell no the story isn't as good as MGS3 or MGS4.
"Praised for it's philosophical and physiological concept"
Yeah well Its a fucking video game, It had an extremely complicated story to which you needed to play It over and over, you play MGS3 once and you understand the story-line and that's common sense, even Kojima admitted It so stop being an "idiot".
mhrfg 1 year ago
@mhrfg LOL i like how you said Kojima admittted something but didn't admit nothing but saying MGS2 was his greatest game. And not only that thats why fans love MGS2 because after you understand it it's like WOW what a game. It only takes two playthroughs to understand. And if it took you more than your just an idiot. MGS3 was simple because it was made like that. MG2,mgs1,MGS2, are the most complex. MGS4 was a good game but had a horrible storyline. It's bashed so much. And i agree it sucks
DTown70 1 year ago
@DTown70
I'm no idiot, I have my opinion, MGS2 is a good game, story is terribly translated to the gamer. No game should take more than 2 PLAYTHROUGHS to understand.
I understood the story, others did not. They are not dumb, Its the story that takes time to absorb and workout, there is too much data to digest in a single run, MGS2 is a very short game without all this content also.
MGS4's story was great, better than MGS2's and was more about the characters than the story/game Itself.
mhrfg 1 year ago
spin off crap.... rising ftw
Shotcalm 1 year ago
Snake takes off his bandanna like he is saying he can finally let go of her and move on.
Cue the evil trenchcoat and the slicked back hair.
darthkahn45 1 year ago
@darthkahn45 Ironically, Metal Gear Solid 4 implies that he never truly let go of her.
Pokeria1 1 year ago
@Pokeria1 Yeah it doesn't really make sense does it? still I am glad they did it anyway just for dramatic effect.
darthkahn45 1 year ago
I hope the cutscene version of the song is available somewhere - the electronic effects are awesome.
Xyzzyka 1 year ago
anybody got the true ending???...
Atsuma17 1 year ago
man this is really sad...They used the boss again even after she was already dead...Jeez kojima hits the nail on the head when showing how goverments work in secret for dirty dealings
ToyGuruMan 1 year ago 35
@ToyGuruMan i know right?!
xVietHerox 1 year ago
@ToyGuruMan Technically, the Government wasn't even involved in this case. It was some nutcase ex-CIA Director named Hot Coldman who was running a rogue CIA unit known as Peace Walker to satisfy his perverse view of deterrance.
Pokeria1 1 year ago
@Pokeria1 well close enough
ToyGuruMan 1 year ago
@ToyGuruMan Well, (SPOILERS) Cipher (the Patriots) was involved, and as it now has power over the Government, in that sense, yes, the government was involved, but in terms of the actual government itself, no, it wasn't involved.
Pokeria1 1 year ago
@ToyGuruMan lol... and forgot to say that there are people to try to resist the deals... isnt the main ending.. but this ending is really good....
ZeroX1803 1 year ago
@ToyGuruMan the boss scene is just a flashback.
KoreyXD 1 year ago
@ToyGuruMan Like how the US government is poorly covering alien activity? :p
Dagg215 1 year ago
how did you defeat that thing i spend several hours and still can't kill it!
MGSmainthemeBACK 1 year ago
@MGSmainthemeBACK
you serious it took me 2 hours to kill that thing too easy all you have to do is hit the manual pod lol
kimchan008 1 year ago