As many as fifty thousand people could have been killed had they flown the planes in lower where there would be more people above them and later when the building was more populated.
As JIm Hoffman said they were not experienced pilots. Its just the interviewers remark about last minute compassion is ludicrous and should be laughed off by Jim to ensure his credibility. He's being kind I think. One assumed it is a more difficult to fly in lower down.
Granted, their nor experienced, but I would imagine that the significance of performing a top-gun maneuver into the Pentagon is much higher than flying a little lower into the tower(and again, later as well). I'm no pilot, so that's speculative, but seems fairly rational.
Oh Yes, I had not considered the Pentagon in this. Perhaps the best pilot took the pentagon job on. Silly though it sounds. ps Remember the burning towers in South Lebanon. It was symbolic for Bin Laden. I know you don't believe he was in this but if you read about him he does state the burning towers of Lebanon sowed the seed of his idea to take revenge. Symbolism was the key maybe not victim calculations.
Hey, I'm always open to new information. Still, I find it less than likely that any terrorist operation would not have a huge emphasis on how many victims they take.
@hgjt678 Fuck symbolism. I'd rather talk facts. Boeing does not design an airliner with engines capable of achieving 400 knots at sea level. NIST never submitted their report for peer review. 7 years later they tried to explain how building 7 fell and they still did not submit their report for peer review. Facts, not symbolism are what we need here. Newton's laws of physics still apply for now. Take that shit your peddling somewhere else where it belongs.
@Daddyo930 Boeing does not design an airliner with engines capable of achieving 400 knots at sea level.
The airliners were completely capable of the speeds they reached. I don't know where people come up with these wild theories on these planes. They don't know what they are talking about. My friend flies a 767. I asked him all of these silly questions.
"I could fly the plane at full speed at 100 feet if i wanted to. The altitude has no bearing on the engine performance"..
@roquefortfiles If that's true then Boeing needs to revise it's VMO/MMO flight limitations review. Boeing's flight limitations review has a graph in it. The graph clearly does not go above 350 KIAS. In the flight limitations review, Boeing states that attempting to exceed VMO will result in loss of control and decreasing flight characteristics. Now if you have different information from Boeing, I would like to see it. Until then, 911 remains an INSIDE JOB.
How? Every single hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft by at least 3 verifiable avenues. The ticket agent who allowed them to board. The on board flight crew who ID'd seat assignments which was then phoned in to ground ops at each airline. The ground ops have been interviewed about this.
Sorry!! but if the hijackers are IN CONTROL? the next stop is the WTC.
@roquefortfiles I notice that you have conveniently avoided the discussion of the plane speeds. Physics and aerodynamics. I trust those more than computers and the testimony of witnesses. Physics and aerodynamics says that a 767 cannot fly 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet. You will be unable to produce a scientifically verified instance of a 767 exceeding VMO by that much and being able to maintain control. The plane would have destroyed itself long before reaching any "targets".
@Daddyo930 Physics and aerodynamics says that a 767 cannot fly 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
My buddy flies a 767. One day i asked him these silly stories. His quote to me.
"LOL. no altitude has nothing to do with it. I can fly the plane at full speed at 50 feet if i wanted to. the altitude has no bearing on the engine performance. The plane is very capable of those speeds"
@roquefortfiles Unless you can provide scientifically verified evidence of a 767 doing 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet, your wasting your time. A terrorist would not have the skill needed to pilot a 767 at that altitude and that speed. You can't do it in a simulator in a thousand times and there is no way the plane would have made it to the target before being destroyed by structural failure. We know who you are.
@Daddyo930 I don't really care what you think. If you don't believe it that's your deal. My friend is military trained and was a Capt for 30 years. You don't have the foggiest idea about what you are talking about and I am more than a little tired of listening to you lot on this topic.
@roquefortfiles Then why do you even bother commenting? If you don't care about it, why are you here defending the lies? You already know the truth so why bother? Do you really love the country that much that you stay here and defend the lies night and day? Or is it that your a cointelpro operative working with a team of deadenders who's time is almost up?
@Daddyo930 Defending what lies? How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to see this event photographed and videotaped from God knows how many variable angles? A commercial jet SCREAM through the building?
Then you guys come on here and post all of this.."Oh can't fly that fast at that height" Bullshit.
It quite obviously CAN!!
If you think Government agents sit here trying to convince people of that?
@roquefortfiles The US government has lied to it's people in the past. There are numerous examples. If they lied in the past, why should anyone believe anything they have to say now?
@Daddyo930 why should anyone believe anything they have to say now?
Sorry this has WHAT? to do with a plane going thru a building? Something that does not require a report and that anyone with a computer or television can see for themselves.
Don't be another one of these guys who lumps stuff like this in with an "Official Story" nonsense.
Yes he thinks that indeed a B757 hit the Pentagon, I still consider that also a possibility, but I go for the overpass/flyby of a B575 (flying just over the Penatgon) with some sort of missile or small jet (perhaps a modified A-3) hitting it at the same time.
That would mean that those infamous 5 frames were doctored. He's very passionate, and he knows his shit about physics. Respect!
Weeeeeeeeeeeell, if you save the lives of the police and not the firemen, they'll adhere to the psychological pecking order phenomenon and there will be no potentially threatening objections- after all- police get used to doing fundamentally profound things according to orders- it's very difficult to get them to participate in dissidence. Very very difficult. Poor bastards are armed after all...
Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Yeah he's one of the more respectable figures in 9/11 truth. the fact he challenges other 9/11 truth efforts and individuals that appear to be dubious is evident he's very honest, careful, and doesn't play games.
What a load of complete nonsense. Anyone who listens to this guy and swallows this bullshit is an idiot.
Major load bearing steel columns, 47 of them, are not sizzled apart by a slow burning incendiary. Absolutely ridiculous.
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
This dude is an excellent speaker; great rhetoric. I love well-brained human beans..!
5147848amp 1 year ago
Go Jim Go!
We Love you in NYC!!
why haven't we read about the 2 year study, 'Active Thermtitic Material Found..' in the US media ??
STOP THE 9/11 COVER- UP!
GET INFORMED - DEMAND ANSWERS AND JUSTICE.
zoskiaist 2 years ago 2
As many as fifty thousand people could have been killed had they flown the planes in lower where there would be more people above them and later when the building was more populated.
TrueScar 2 years ago
As JIm Hoffman said they were not experienced pilots. Its just the interviewers remark about last minute compassion is ludicrous and should be laughed off by Jim to ensure his credibility. He's being kind I think. One assumed it is a more difficult to fly in lower down.
hgjt678 2 years ago
Granted, their nor experienced, but I would imagine that the significance of performing a top-gun maneuver into the Pentagon is much higher than flying a little lower into the tower(and again, later as well). I'm no pilot, so that's speculative, but seems fairly rational.
TrueScar 2 years ago
Oh Yes, I had not considered the Pentagon in this. Perhaps the best pilot took the pentagon job on. Silly though it sounds. ps Remember the burning towers in South Lebanon. It was symbolic for Bin Laden. I know you don't believe he was in this but if you read about him he does state the burning towers of Lebanon sowed the seed of his idea to take revenge. Symbolism was the key maybe not victim calculations.
hgjt678 2 years ago
Hey, I'm always open to new information. Still, I find it less than likely that any terrorist operation would not have a huge emphasis on how many victims they take.
TrueScar 2 years ago
@hgjt678 Fuck symbolism. I'd rather talk facts. Boeing does not design an airliner with engines capable of achieving 400 knots at sea level. NIST never submitted their report for peer review. 7 years later they tried to explain how building 7 fell and they still did not submit their report for peer review. Facts, not symbolism are what we need here. Newton's laws of physics still apply for now. Take that shit your peddling somewhere else where it belongs.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 Boeing does not design an airliner with engines capable of achieving 400 knots at sea level.
The airliners were completely capable of the speeds they reached. I don't know where people come up with these wild theories on these planes. They don't know what they are talking about. My friend flies a 767. I asked him all of these silly questions.
"I could fly the plane at full speed at 100 feet if i wanted to. The altitude has no bearing on the engine performance"..
Capt 767
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles If that's true then Boeing needs to revise it's VMO/MMO flight limitations review. Boeing's flight limitations review has a graph in it. The graph clearly does not go above 350 KIAS. In the flight limitations review, Boeing states that attempting to exceed VMO will result in loss of control and decreasing flight characteristics. Now if you have different information from Boeing, I would like to see it. Until then, 911 remains an INSIDE JOB.
Daddyo930 1 month ago
@Daddyo930 Until then, 911 remains an INSIDE JOB.
How? Every single hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft by at least 3 verifiable avenues. The ticket agent who allowed them to board. The on board flight crew who ID'd seat assignments which was then phoned in to ground ops at each airline. The ground ops have been interviewed about this.
Sorry!! but if the hijackers are IN CONTROL? the next stop is the WTC.
George Bush and Dick Cheney?
Serving drinks in coach?
roquefortfiles 1 month ago
@roquefortfiles I notice that you have conveniently avoided the discussion of the plane speeds. Physics and aerodynamics. I trust those more than computers and the testimony of witnesses. Physics and aerodynamics says that a 767 cannot fly 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet. You will be unable to produce a scientifically verified instance of a 767 exceeding VMO by that much and being able to maintain control. The plane would have destroyed itself long before reaching any "targets".
Daddyo930 4 weeks ago
@Daddyo930 Physics and aerodynamics says that a 767 cannot fly 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
My buddy flies a 767. One day i asked him these silly stories. His quote to me.
"LOL. no altitude has nothing to do with it. I can fly the plane at full speed at 50 feet if i wanted to. the altitude has no bearing on the engine performance. The plane is very capable of those speeds"
roquefortfiles 4 weeks ago
@Daddyo930 You're not confusing knots for MPH?
I don't exactly think some guy hell bent on running the plane in to a building is too concerned with the Boeing recommendations. Or spilling a drink.
And I got a 767 Capt and 60 randomly shot videos of United 175 to prove it.
roquefortfiles 4 weeks ago
@roquefortfiles Unless you can provide scientifically verified evidence of a 767 doing 420 or 510 knots at 700 feet, your wasting your time. A terrorist would not have the skill needed to pilot a 767 at that altitude and that speed. You can't do it in a simulator in a thousand times and there is no way the plane would have made it to the target before being destroyed by structural failure. We know who you are.
Daddyo930 4 weeks ago
@Daddyo930 I don't really care what you think. If you don't believe it that's your deal. My friend is military trained and was a Capt for 30 years. You don't have the foggiest idea about what you are talking about and I am more than a little tired of listening to you lot on this topic.
Allot of brain dead drivel.
I guess it all never happened then did it?
Give your head a shake man!!
roquefortfiles 4 weeks ago
@roquefortfiles Then why do you even bother commenting? If you don't care about it, why are you here defending the lies? You already know the truth so why bother? Do you really love the country that much that you stay here and defend the lies night and day? Or is it that your a cointelpro operative working with a team of deadenders who's time is almost up?
Daddyo930 4 weeks ago
@Daddyo930 Defending what lies? How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to see this event photographed and videotaped from God knows how many variable angles? A commercial jet SCREAM through the building?
Then you guys come on here and post all of this.."Oh can't fly that fast at that height" Bullshit.
It quite obviously CAN!!
If you think Government agents sit here trying to convince people of that?
You're not playing with a full deck.
roquefortfiles 4 weeks ago
@roquefortfiles Has the US government ever lied to it's people before?
Daddyo930 3 weeks ago
@Daddyo930 What does that have to do with a plane going through a building and shot from 60 different view points?
Nothing!
roquefortfiles 3 weeks ago
@roquefortfiles The US government has lied to it's people in the past. There are numerous examples. If they lied in the past, why should anyone believe anything they have to say now?
Daddyo930 3 weeks ago
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@Daddyo930 why should anyone believe anything they have to say now?
Sorry this has WHAT? to do with a plane going thru a building? Something that does not require a report and that anyone with a computer or television can see for themselves.
Don't be another one of these guys who lumps stuff like this in with an "Official Story" nonsense.
Has nothing to do with it.
roquefortfiles 3 weeks ago
@TrueScar
whoever did this shit did it early in the morning, due to the fact of shift changes in security at the airports...
best time to fuck around, i'd guess...
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
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911 was an inside job
zoskiaist 3 years ago
Sandburgular! You old dumbshit, how are ya?
Jim looks like he's about to blow about a gasket.
jizzmonger 3 years ago
Yes he thinks that indeed a B757 hit the Pentagon, I still consider that also a possibility, but I go for the overpass/flyby of a B575 (flying just over the Penatgon) with some sort of missile or small jet (perhaps a modified A-3) hitting it at the same time.
That would mean that those infamous 5 frames were doctored. He's very passionate, and he knows his shit about physics. Respect!
Sandberg1972 3 years ago
Weeeeeeeeeeeell, if you save the lives of the police and not the firemen, they'll adhere to the psychological pecking order phenomenon and there will be no potentially threatening objections- after all- police get used to doing fundamentally profound things according to orders- it's very difficult to get them to participate in dissidence. Very very difficult. Poor bastards are armed after all...
thinazzabird 4 years ago
Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
dumalucky 4 years ago
I love this guy, he is so right on the money I think
Sandberg1972 4 years ago
Yeah he's one of the more respectable figures in 9/11 truth. the fact he challenges other 9/11 truth efforts and individuals that appear to be dubious is evident he's very honest, careful, and doesn't play games.
Thrashaero 3 years ago