Goju ryu vs Kiyokushinkay

[MrEdgariuxxx]

Goju Ryu lost beacuse its not a Sport style and goju ryu dont have tournaments in my school of Goju Ryu. Kyokushin is a sport syle and Goju Ryu is more selfdefense its totaly different syles so if there woulld be a street fight and you have to defend i would choose Goju Ryu its more effective (:

[OkamiNinja7]

What I love most about this video is that you can clearly see both the Naha-te and Shuri-te side of Kyokushinkai.

[Derukugi2]

Everytime I see a video called "Kyokushin vs something", they fight according to Kyokushin rules.

So Kyokushin is always on their home turf.

That seems like cheating to me.

[khairuleven]

@Derukugi2 THATS CUZ its more realistic fighting

[Derukugi2]

@khairuleven

Kyokushin rules are not "realistic".

[khairuleven]

@Derukugi2 SO WHATS realistic,pussy punches to the face?tapping kicks with no power at all?aka shotokan shit?hehehe.

[Derukugi2]

@khairuleven

Different topic. I simply pointed out that Kyokushin rules are NOT "realistic". And there is nothing to argue about.

[khairuleven]

@Derukugi2 first of all,i dont say its purely realistic,the only purely realistic is strreet fight.but their rules is "more"realistic in which there is more contact in fight than other m.a.

[Derukugi2]

@khairuleven

Kyokushin rules are absolutely unrealistic, because in a real-life brawl, the first place people punch each other is of course in the head. "Lets get real close and punch it out full-power, but lets not worry about getting punched in the head.." LOL! Whatever you call that, "realistic" is not the word.

Anyhow. I simply pointed out that every time you see "Kyokushin vs xxx" videos, it is always under Kyokushin rules. And that is ridiculous. Thats all I said.

Simply a statement.

[khairuleven]

@Derukugi2 hmm..suits you..

[HairofSteel555]

Goju won this. He knocked the Kiyoku--ka down mulitple times, was it against the rules to simulate a finishing move? In my dojo if you knock your opponent down, you simulate a finisher. Doing that shows the judges you earned that point, and there is no missing it even.

[razman9]

Why did the kyoukushin fighter win? The Goju karateka knocked him down multiple times, AND actually used blocks. It looked more like karate, he managed to do get his opponent off balance, and he managed to get his opponent on the ground (a finishing postion) multiple times. Who was judging?

[brasucasoul]

in my opinion Goju won, but both are great.

[brasucasoul]

Uechi-ryu, Goju-ryu and Kyokushin are my favorite styles.

[chimibert]

All aspects from body conditioning (hojo hundo) and full contact ( Iri kumi go) of Kyokushinkai karate, were taken directly from Goju. This particular fight was won by the Goju karateka. The fight was pretty equal, but aA mae keri followed by a fall of the adversary is awarded an Ippon.

[Mider999]

With respect to the arts im about ot mention id like to see the best fighters from Goju, Uechi, Kyokushin, Isshan ryu, and Shotokan all fight and see who is the best because Kyokushin say they are the strongest martial arts i like uechi cause of the iron body training

[101ADRENALIN]

morio higgaona the most powerful

[facejobby]

bos fite

[S54CSL]

Always respect for Goju Ryu. Circular, conditioning, breathing. OSU!

A kyokushin karateka.

[sciencemunk]

OSS!

[shinkioku]

Kyokushin and Guju are from same family!

Kyokushin is more focused to full contact kumite.

I love and respect both.

OSU!!

[TaeIeon]

Masutatsu Oyama did train in both Goju and Shotokan and incorporated from both

[DamageU]

@shinkioku Goju karateka for 19 years, love training with my Kyokushin brothers, whether they come to us, or we go to them. Much love and respect for both, OSU!

[kavolis]

yes, Oyama have studied goju before he created kyokushinkai. Go-ju means hard-soft style. But Oyama has chosen only "hard" part from goju

[alter696]

sindo-ryu just try it, kiokushinkai гавно)

[deek77]

You said "Oyama has chosen only 'hard' part from goju." In terms of kumite, that may be true, but KK uses both hard and soft Goju kata: Gekisai Dai, Sanchin, Tensho, Saifa, Seienchin, Seipai. In fact, Oyama taught that Tensho, the soft counterpart to Sanchin, is the most important advanced kata to train in.

[kavolis]

IMHO: KK is sport style so kata is not the most important thing - kumite, sparring, yes, but not kata. And today's KK karatekas perform kata as they perform sparring - (only) hard and fast. Maybe years ago there was somethihg "ju" in KK or maybe i still didn't saw goju kata performed in goju manner by KK karateka - i saw a form, a surface of something reessembling to goju but it was far from hard-soft principles.

[deek77]

It's true KK is known for its hard approach and it does suit bigger, stronger karateka. But what many don't realze is that there is hard and soft aspects to all karate styles. Certain styles focus on one or the other, others seek balance b/w the two, but both are needed. Remember all karate is derived from the original 3 Te styles: Shuri, Naha, and Tomari. All others, including Goju, Shotokan and KK, owe their lineage to those 3...

[deek77]

Also, keep in mind that Karate is not like Judo where the curriculum is the same in every school or faction. Goju is Goju, Uechi is Uechi, Shito is Shito, and KK is KK. Each style, newer and older, carries different perspectives and approaches. I believe certain ones are more widely revered because they came before certain others. But I also believe this diversity in karate is a good thing, because it creates more and more opportunities to learn from each other.

[sciencemunk]

it is a misconception that Oyama took only the hard part of Goju. Oyama was known for a great Tensho Kata which is part of Oyama's Kyokushin style. You can youtube Oyama teaching Korean Take Kwon Do students some soft style Goju Karate techniques.

[tombslasher]

Kiyokushinkay has all goju ryu kata plus some shotokan kata :) just more harder in style but really the same .

[malasangre]

@tombslasher : not all of them. Most advanced goju kata are not part of KK curriculum (except of course sanchin and tensho)

[goma3]

Like Kyokushin, Goju-Ryu is also a tough style if taught properly. Mas Oyama mentioned Goju many times as a similar karate, traditional, very focused on breathing and endurance and with tough athletes.

[tokyo333]

Actually, Oyama Sensei studied Goju-ryu before he created Kyokushin... :-)

[kalikurg]

Yes)

[Mider999]

@kalikurg Who won?

[kalikurg]

@Mider999

kiyokushinkay))

[psp1c]

@kalikurg GoJu Ryu 

[alwayztru2self]

The guy on the left looks like Goju? Am I right?

[kalikurg]

kiyokushinkay))

[S3RB3]

who won ?

[someguy6481]

well done, good display from both fighters.

[HotKebab]

Good kumite!