I wish ron paul would have just said yes to the question I think he has a somewhat good argue 4:18. If he would have just said yes then I would have taken him more seriously.
look at George Jung! Went into Prison as the learner of Marijuana and came ot the Doctor of Cocaine! So yeah Paul does have a point that its rediculous to lock up young kids who are just beggining their lives for making mistakes!
Ron Paul can't answer a straight question on national television because he's a lying stinking racist nutjob that knows his unvarnished hate would appall 90% of Americans.
@dan91709 Yeah, cuz everyone can just feel the hate in this clip. If you support freedom of association, you have to support it even when people practice it for ridiculous reasons. If people wanted to discriminate based on height, it would be perfectly legal; no one would think that to be anything necessary to outlaw. But if we had a horrible history of extreme discrimination and slavery based on height, people would be biting at the bit to outlaw it.
@dariusI404 By the logic of laws against racial discrimination, we should outlaw any reason for denying or terminating employment not related to actual job performance, such as political orientation, or obnoxious attitude; even being a RACIAL BIGOT would not be grounds for firing, or denial of work. Don't want to hire them because they're racist? That's discrimination. You can't simply say "I want to discriminate only against the people I don't like." You would have to cease ALL discrimination.
@dariusI404 No one has a right to a job, the same way no one has a right to enter your home, uninvited. Without property rights, everyone would own everything. How would that work out? Not very well. Property rights are what allow prices to develop, which then allow economic reasoning and allocation of resources. This is the most rational and unpolitical way to order society. We are seeing the effects of private property rights violations that are creating our present situation.
@dan91709 Yeah, I'm sure that's his goal: to roll back race relations to 1642. Sure. Not to mention he's drawing crowds of thousands to hear him speak and millions of supporters who fervently donate to his campaign. If this "racist" is drawing such support, why didn't David Duke (KKK member) draw such support? I guess your implying that Paul supporters are racist too, or are being duped by a guy who wants to eliminate the drug war, which imprisons lots of nonviolent minorities.
@nedster7 Yeah, in comparison to the corporate shape-shifter and the theotard with gay sex on his brain, Ron Paul looks pretty good! LOL! That's why he has 18 delegate votes to Romney's 105 - and why an average of only 2.75% of eligible voters bothered to pry their cans off the couch and go vote. Yep, veeeery impressive. (chuckle) Heck, even the Grinch has more delegates.
@dan91709 I'm not sure Gingrich has more delegates. I believe (I'll have to check) that Ron Paul has the second highest amount of delegates under Romney. I don't expect Paul to win. I do expect the country to decline while people fight over racism, even though we have a president of African heritage. I also know that anyone can be accused of anything, especially when it is used as a red herring to distract people from real issues, like skyrocketing debt and currency devaluation.
@dan91709 Hey, why don't we have a constitutional amendment to abolish the presidency, and then we won't have to worry about one guy trying to please everybody. I know, crazy idea--not gonna happen. I like it though. I'll please everyone by making this my last post here.
ok so what he is saying is that the government has no right to control your private property. If someone wanted to put up that sign it would be their right. BUT I do not support the racism, IF someone did that today that would be suicide for their business imagine the protests at that shop. On the other side the shop could say for blacks only. If someone would post something like that. Our culture doesn't tolerate racism. It is like the smoking banning on private property.
@chadmwentz Chad, I realize you have a "thing" for Ronnie Paul, but if you think there's no such thing as real racism, I suggest you read some of Paul's newsletters. That'll give you an idea of how ugly it can get. I'm just sayin' :-)
I see Ron Paul supporters as the mirror image of wedge issue voters. Wedge issue voters are willing to ignore candidate shortcomings on non wedge issues. Ron Paul voters are willing to ignore his views on wedge issues. Paul supporters become indignant and say things like, "let's talk about real issues" when they are brought up. Paul supporters seem not to be able to grasp how offensive it is to, for example, pro-choice women or minorities when they are described as ot being "real issues".
@ActaNonVerba71 Nope not true. It's all one big picture that RP is espousing, liberty, following the constitution, limited federal involvement in personal affairs. The reality is that people such as yourself, who are concerned with these "wedge" issues, do not see the big picture that RP promotes here. Many take an issue such as his stance on evolution, marraige, abortion, immigration, and the Civil Rights Act, out of context form the whole.
@AvishekDrops Okay, let me ask you a very simple question. Please don't go on and on with this or that and just answer a simple question with a simple answer. Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people? Again, please, a simple answer for my simple question.
@ActaNonVerba71 Let me ask you a simple question. Is your question even a valid question? Yo don't get my point so I won't address yours. Your concern has no legitimacy. It stems from insecurity.
@ActaNonVerba71 No, I don't think people should discriminate like that. Neither does RP. You see, Ron Paul is being courageous voicing his opinions on this bill, I mean who in their right mind would be against this act? But when you look deeper at what he's saying, he says that it didn't solve racial tensions.. which is true. Furthermore, the Russians pressured us into creating this act, they were making fun of us for being racist, so the act wasn't based on any real substance
@AvishekDrops Please don't dodge the question like Ron Paul does. The question was not whether people "should" discriminate it was whether people "should be able to". So, again I present the simple question: Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
@ActaNonVerba71 Yes people should be allowed to discriminate and they do, everyday. You do. People choose what brands of food to buy, they choose who to have sex with, too. They choose who can and cannot come into their homes. This is the private property ideal Paul is discussing. We all discriminate. But anyone who puts up a "No Blacks" sign would go out of business. Your implying we need Big Brother rather than the market to sort this out.
@ActaNonVerba71 Let me ask you this. Would you want to do business with an openly racist person? Would your community? No, right? Then, there is obviously no need for force against this person. You would simply not give consent by buying stuff from him. He would probably lose his business. Anyone not committing violence, or theft is someone who can be ignored. Do you attack "mean people" with the law? No, you ignore them. Problem mostly solved.
@ActaNonVerba71 Strong, centralized government is obviously not the remedy to racism. Hitler used power to murder people he didn't like. One open secret is that Hitler hated the states' rights concept that Ron Paul defends. Power can be used for good or ill. That is why you want limited power and decentralization. This way people can have a wide variety of choices of how to live (otherwise pejoratively known as "discrimination"). Don't take my word. Look it up.
@nedster7 God, you Ron Paul people are nutjobs. Hitler blah blah blah. Well, the fabulous founders used a not so strong central government to allow slavery. Simple headed arguments are pointless.
@ActaNonVerba71 I do not make arguments based on name calling, or empty "blah blah blah" slogans. The Hitler argument is a pertinent one and based on real history that actually happened. The institution of slavery is a reflection of people's lack of morals at that time. I think my argument is rather based on careful study and reading for many years. So who will you vote for? I wish you luck with whoever it is.
@ActaNonVerba71 Thank you for demonstrating that you, yourself discriminate. I don't agree with what you have to say, but I defend your right to discriminate against "Ron Paul nut jobs." You should open up a restaurant that will not serve Ron Paul supporters. I defend your right in that also.
@ActaNonVerba71 There are actually black Americans (and people of other heritage) who support Ron Paul. I can only assume you would say that these people are either dupes, who are being led down the primrose path or are "Uncle Toms," sellouts to their own race. Maybe they see important things that there 5th grade teacher didn't tell them.
@nedster7 This is why I can't to you Ron Paul nutjobs (no,not all Ron Paul supporters are nutjobs). Do you think I"m retarded? You can't sound reasonable for like 90% of your post and then throw in some insulting stupid shit (e.g. "Maybe they see important things that there 5th grade teacher didn't tell them.") and expect people not to notice. I'm not playing this game with you where you pretend to be respectful and reasonable.
@ActaNonVerba71 " God, you Ron Paul people are nutjobs," implies you think all of us are nut jobs. These are your words. No, I don't think your retarded. But you are already playing the game. You post here, don't you? I am respectful and reasonable. Debate is debate. It has to sting a little, when people disagree. I just won't go to the level of name calling.
@nedster7 I should not have written that. I usually qualify as I did in the next comment I wrote: "you Ron Paul nutjobs (no,not all Ron Paul supporters are nutjobs)." So, there, I admitted I made a mistake. But, you won't. At least if I had written "Ron Paul people are nutjobs" and meant it I would have had the balls to say it directly. Better than this cowardly poorly concealed faux "I"m respectful and reasonable" jive the nutjob wing of Ron Paul supporters use.
@ActaNonVerba71 I don't mean to insult. I do retract my 5th grade teacher comment and stand by everything else. That aside, I do feel that social science education in this country is the pits. Especially when lots of books are free today. But that's another story. Bye now. I won't send another message unless I receive one from you.
@nedster7 Dude, you really gotta let me respond before you send a second reply. Now I look like a douchebag because you've already retracted your comment. As far as education, I think the way Civics has been limited or taken out from the classroom all-together is a travesty.
@ActaNonVerba71 Sorry, enjoying the debate. Look, Ron Paul folks have a difficult position to defend, because it counters what is taught in schools, presented in the media, etc. It's so easy to characterize anyone as racist because a human being has to make choices, therefore discriminate. I don't just want anyone to enter my life, for example. People make choices for all kinds of reasons. It is individual rights that deserve protection. Not group rights. Individual rights apply equally.
@nedster7 You are right. There will always be compromises. We all have our priorities. For me, the right of any American to travel anywhere in his country and grab a beer, or have a bite to eat, or pick up some groceries, or see a movie....without facing rejection or humiliation for attempting to do so.....is far more important than the right of bigots to humiliate and exclude fellow Americans in the name of "property rights".
@ActaNonVerba71 I don't disagree with you, not totally. Like most people we may disagree on method. I don't like racism and people can use property rights to discriminate. But it can be difficult to discern, for example: someone excludes a drug user (who happens to be a different race). That is simply why competition must exist. I don't want to eat where people hate me. So I'll go where I'm more welcome. Competition will weed out poor establishments. Nothing is perfect, but comp. is good.
@nedster7 What does something hating you have to do with anything when you go eat? I"m sorry but it's real tough for me not to get ugly when you say these things that sound so incredibly non empathetic to your fellow human beings. Nobody goes and finds the owner every time they go to a restaurant or a bar or a bowling alley or a grocery store, or a laundromat, etc.. to make sure the owner doesn't hate them. You just go in and eat, bowl, shop, or wash. You just sound so callous.
@ActaNonVerba71 I may sound callous but I did not join the Marines. Soldiers are trained to kill, are they not? If Ron Paul is such a bad guy, then why does he receive more funding from all active military then the rest of the candidates combined? Are we in the Middle East to really help people? You brought up the example of "No Blacks," at an establishment that serves people, not me. What you don't understand is that freedom can only work when it crosses all sectors of human life.
@nedster7 support from the military means what exactly? Military people don't want to go to war. it doesn't take a genius to understand why they would support his non war stance. Military people view on politics is just as relevant, no more, than any other demographic.
@ActaNonVerba71 Competition can only thrive through low or local regulation. We have it now, but it can be weak. If a butcher sells rotten meat, we need somewhere else to go. That is why freedom of choice makes sense. Liberty needs to reign across all sectors of life. Then morality can be freely chosen. Only a free man/woman can choose to be moral. Take care. (P.S. Don't you wish some talking heads on tv would stop shouting---i like the voice immodulation comment below).
@nedster7 I just can't stand it with some of you Ron Paul people anymore. What do you not understand about less powerful people being treated like sh#t and humiliated by more powerful people being wrong? Forget the constitution. It doesn't hold a candle to being humane. Call it morals (or ethics for the non religious), they wipe their arse with the constitution. I was in the Marines for 10 years and I love my country. But, sorry I'm a human being and a man before I'm anything else.
@ActaNonVerba71 I am alive. I understand perfectly about being mistreated. I am forced to pay taxes every year or I go to jail. Wouldn't you call that slavery? If not,how would you define it? Forgetting the Constitution is throwing away the rule of law. You want a government of laws, not rulers. If you love people so much, why not try and persuade them without calling them callous or saying you can't stand them. I don't believe your sincere. Is your Constitutional oath a lie?
@ActaNonVerba71 To backtrack, why bring up the importance of civics in education if you don't care about the Constitution, the rule of law you swore to defend?
@ActaNonVerba71 I would argue that war is the ultimate mistreatment of less powerful people. What "holds a candle" to the evil of war? Self defense is one thing, but invasion and occupation is the highest example of what you supposedly hate so much. Be consistent. Think about the trees and the forest.
@nedster7 I don't respond to muli-part (i.e. multi block) replies. Give me one reply at a time within the allotted character limit and I will respond. I know it sucks when you're trying to discuss something important but I"m not scrolling around trying to find an answer your replies. Also, please actually respond to me replies rather than just keep splintering off trying to show how awesome Ron Paul is.
@nedster7 I don't respond to muli-part (i.e. multi block) replies. Give me one reply at a time within the allotted character limit and I will respond. I know it sucks when you're trying to discuss something important but I"m not scrolling around trying to find an answer your replies. Also, please actually respond to me replies rather than just keep splintering off trying to show how awesome Ron Paul is.
@ActaNonVerba71 He's a smart guy, it's about congressional authority for him. But the simpletons cannot grasp thsi concept so they prefer to isolate one issue, such as racism, and live in hate. There is no hate being portrayed by RP for being against the Civil Rights Act. Instead, it's integrity. Who else stands up so firmly in their principles?
@AvishekDrops Please answer the simple question, my initial question, for which you have now spent 3 comments avoiding. In answer to your question, I stand up so firmly in my principles.
@ActaNonVerba71 Please answer this, Did the CRA reduce discrimination? I'll answer it for you. it INCREASED DISCRIMINATION. WAKE THE FUCK UP. When white racists back then were FORCED to hire black people, that did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to solve reacial tensions. The act was a waste. Racism has been close to 100% absolved now, due to people just becoming smarter and more accepting, and the old racists dying out. I just don't understand why you're asking me this question.. it's completely irrelevant
@AvishekDrops I have spent time talking to you and I have read through everything you have typed. I have patiently awaited a direct, simple response to my direct, simple question. Yet, in four comments from you since my initial question, you still have not given me the courtesy of a straightforward response. So, again, I ask, Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
@ActaNonVerba71 Ditto. Unfortunately, you refuse to look at the big picture as well, and this is a primary issue. I already did answer your question. But personally, I don't know how I feel about the issue. What's more important for me, is that people such as yourself understand how difficult it is to be against the CRA. Instead, you insist that RP is a racist.
@ActaNonVerba71 So I will not answer your question, which I already did. It's clear that you refuse to answer my questions, because you are starting to realize that you are wrong.What people do in these instances, is they find a topic which they think will finalize the issue because it takes the ease off their cognitive processing and shifts the spotlight to someone else. Good luck, i've debated with thousands of people an you'r ebringing some naive strategies to the table rather than discussion
@AvishekDrops What on earth are you talking about? You didn't ask me anything. You sort of asked me something and then stated you were going to answer it for me. I am not trying any "strategies" on you. All I asked is one straightforward question for which you have not answered five times in a row. So, for the sixth time, Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
@ActaNonVerba71 Do you understand what the CRA did in 1964? Do you understand that the federal gov't forced white racist individuals to hire black people? DO you understand that this does not solve racism? So your question is unintelligent. So for the 6th time, please just look at the big picture.
@AvishekDrops In answer to your questions: yes, yes, and yes. Now, here's our situation. I asked you a simple question 6 times. You evaded answering six times. All the while I have been polite and have answered your questions in the most straightforward way possible, with a simple "yes". Now, please, just answer my question: Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
@ActaNonVerba71 THank you. I do not know how I feel about this issue. I cannot say no, or yes. I can definitively say that NO, people should not discriminate, but as far as having the right to, this question takes libertarianism to its most extreme test. Although important to consider this question, it is highly unlikely that this could happen. And if it does, the ownder of that restaurant will be serving a very small number of like-minded folk.
@ActaNonVerba71 The fact that white supremacists still do exist, shows that there is potential for this to happen. But again if it does, it would not happen at popular restaurants.. black folk would not be discriminated against since it would not occur on any more than the smallest scale imaginable. Basically things would remain the same way they are now.. with racists in the south staying racist, and everyone else.. progressing. Same with legalizing heroin, not much would change.
@AvishekDrops Okay, for the seventh time now, you have evaded giving a simple response to a simple question. However, given that your responses have largely included placating language of the "don't worry, it really wouldn't be a big deal" variety, I can oly assume your answer to the question, " "Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?" is "yes".
Chris Matthews Pounded Ron Paul On The Property Rights Issue. This Ron Paul Would Allow State Run Segregation, All Because Libertarians Don't Stand Up Against Tyranny Because It Would Impinge On Pesonal Freedoms To Racist.
@TheJungleCityKilla I asked AvishekDrops one simple question, "Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says 'No Blacks' and subsequently refuse services to Black people?". He first refused to answer. Then, he dodged the question and said, "No, I don't think people should discriminate like that." when that wasn't the question. The question wasn't whether he thinks it's right; it was whether he thinks they "should be able to".
@ActaNonVerba71 Actually That Was My Point To Him But He Said That People Who Think That Black's Civil Rights Will Be Violated Are Crazy & Shouldn't Be Taken Seriously.
PLEASE HELP KEEP THIS COMMENT AT THE TOP BY NOT COMMENTING ANYMORE!!
EXPOSED, James B. Powell is the mystery writer of the "racist" statements found in a few of Ron Paul's newsletters. EXPOSED by reporter Ben Swann for Cincinnati Fox News Channel 19
Guarantee you if Ron Paul becomes president and he does what he says with property rights, all over the south, there will be signs saying "no blacks." GUARANTEE. You don't know untill you have lived in the south. THey are just waiting for the chance to go back to 1964 type days.
@savan30 maybe. I'm a RP supporter, but what we have to do is look at the big picture. and that's what RP does. It's about following the constitution, limiting federal gov't, and allowing freedom of choice. Of course there are potential issues with this design. But there are still gov't involved. If RP becomes president, the states would decide what is legal and what is not. And at this day and age, legislators int he south are not going to legalize what you describe.
@AvishekDrops false. People are way too insecure if they really believe that. calm down.
What Exactly Is False About My Last Statement???????????? You Aren't Being Very Clear Or Coherent In That Last Message. If You're Going To Take The Time To Respond To Someone's Comment At Least Explain Yourself In A Clear & Concise Manner So As To Give Your Correspondent A Legitimate Chance To Respond Correctly To Your Points Of Disagreement.
Clearly I'm bot going to watch this. When the term racist is involved, I lose all interest. It just angers me that my mother and sister are against him simply because the media called him "racist." Obama is a racist! I said it, so it must be true. Well, it probably is true, but that's irrelevant. Everyone who reads this, go storm Obama's home!
The drug war is a perfect example. The reality is that people do drugs anyway. Kids grow up with shitty parents regardless of gov't intervention. It's just reality. There will always be some shitty people, and their kids will always suffer. You CANNOT fix it. By believing gov't can fix it, all your doing is giving up freedom. It's a shitty world, it ALWAYS has been, it ALWAYS will be. Stop crying about, and stop telling me what to do, and STOP using my money for your wars.
Chris Matthews is really stupid. He's the guy who gets a tingling feeling up his leg when he hears Barrack Obama speak. He thinks Obama and the gov't can fix EVERY problem in the fucking world. Libertarians are realists. We understand that people should be free to fix their own problems because gov't cannot fix your problems. Liberals, communists, and neocoms are naive, and their lack of wisdom is the reason we are in this mess. This great eutopia that gov't promises isn't real.
Iv been balls fukn DEEP inside a big titted hairy vagd nigger whore lol, gave it to her and emptied inside her ..i know what fucking is all about, how dare u!
NO condom (because the regular ones she had didnt fit, i need the magnun ultras) and i reinacted George washingtons battle with jungle fever..a battle i ended up losing may i add
Not really sure how this was racist just that guy from hardball trying to have a good show..lol but he's right, the country's that have legalize all drugs DON'T HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM!
Racists want to bomb Africa without congressional approval like Obama. Ron Paul doesn't want to blow up any more brown people overseas. Zionists created liberalism to destroy America. If you support that, you want America to collapse. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. OWNED!
Can u imagine these fukn dumb paul supporters, "if businesses deny service to blacks then they would certainly go outbof business"
Apparently 100% of american business did that and they ALL continued to stay in business without blinking an eye...those are historical facts. Wanna argue abou that lol, guess whox gonna win ..dropouts lol
This guy is a fucking genius wow. America is stupid if we don't vote for him. HE IS FUCKING TRYING TO FREE AMERICA FROM THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING OUR FREE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US BY GOD.
@BeastMode08 YES!! someone who understands, if you haven't heard of SOPA, it's a law that if passed by congress, the government will be able to sensor the internet, and block webb pages like piratebay and other things they don't want us to see, this will lead to the ability for them to take many more of our freedom, something tells me that if Ron Paul, wins, it will be a change for the best
@FPSlayer17 the only reason ron paul may win is because they haven't gotten their greedy hands on the internet yet. if ron paul doesn't win we may never be able to coordinate as a people like we are able to now. cuz lets be honest the media hasn't looked twice at ron paul while the internet has praised him as a god. thats because the media is bought and the internet isn't yet. oh well i hope we witness a miracle.
@BeastMode08 FOX, MSNBC, CBS, CNN ARE ALL PART OF ISRALE’S LOBBY ATTACK ON RON PAUL. The violent regimes in charge of Israel will do all kinds of nasty deeds to discredit Ron Paul because they are afraid of his honesty. They will tell you everyone but them are fascists nazi etc... It IS Israel killing everyone over there and we are next!--- HERE IS YOUR PROOF -- /watch?v=P_ZiVRedU-4&feature=related
"Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment."
Ron Paul is a racist. He published racist news letters, he endorsed David Duke, he wants to repeal the civil rights laws. He's a fucking racist piece of shit.
LMAO...Okay, first off, you need to know that he NEVER said he wanted to get rid of the civil rights laws. He mentioned that we were better off getting rid of the Jim Crow Laws which enforced segregation, but the news program that he mentioned it on, intentionally mixed it up so that it would look like he said we were better off with the Jim Crow laws.
@jreily88 He's saying that people should be "free" to discriminate on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. He "says" he's against Jim Crow laws.
Ron Paul is a career politician that knows what topics to avoid so as to appear reasonable to the general public, but 20 years of racist commentary in his own newsletters show what he really is.
Okay, if you want to believe everything you see on the news, then that's fine with me, and there is no point in trying to argue with someone like yourself. Why do you think there are more african american supporters of Ron Paul, then Obama? The man's voting record proves that he can get the job done...never voting to raise the debt ceiling, never voting to raise taxes, the only candidate with military AND medical experience, etc.
@jreily88 As usual, another Ron Paul distortion. If one misguided *local* Texas chapter leader (Nelson Linder) is the best you can do, fine. But characterizing him as the "President" of the NAACP is, in fact, a lie.
Ron Paul believes people have the "right" to discriminate against people on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. You can't deny it, so you try to fallaciously say that "if" the "President" of the NAACP was duped (which he wasn't) then everyone else should be too. FAIL
@AvishekDrops Sure he wants "freedom." Freedom for states to reinstitute racial segregation or secede from the Union to preserve the "right" to discriminate on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. That's no exaggeration.
The man is a nutjob of the first order. Why do you think white supremicists love him so?
@dan91709 That's how you choose to view it. What I see is that RP will uphold his faith to the constitution and limited federal involvement in personal affairs no matter how controversial it gets. He knows some people will interpret it as him being racist, but the problem he is addressing is much more complex. The Civil Rights Act did not solve discrimination, it forced white people to hire blacks, and this increased tension. Now that racism is pretty much over, discrimination isn't a problem
@dan91709 It's a logical fallacy to conclude that just because supremacists and leaders of the KKK support RP, and have taken pictures with RP, means that RP supports whtie supremacists...many black people support Ron Paul too...because they just like his ideas and principles and don't get too influenced by these conspiracy theories.
@AvishekDrops You said "The Civil Rights Act did not solve discrimination, it forced white people to hire blacks." Hum.
Ron Paul has publicly said that the Civil War was unconstitutional despite contrary findings of the US Supreme Court. He says that freeing the slaves was wrong, and that people have a "right" to racially discriminate in jobs and housing. He believes states have the right to bar interracial marriage, and to discriminate in education.
@AvishekDrops (cont) in mentioning that white supremacists resonate with these clearly racist views. I mentioned them not as evidence, but purely to inform readers where much of his highly charged support comes from.
Ron Paul's stated desire to close the Department of Education, Homeland Security, Transportation, Energy, Health & Human Services, Commerce, EPA, and the Federal Reserve System, is just the beginning of his desired Confederate revival.
@dan91709 THe logical fallacy is assuming that RP is racist because he has KKK supporters. Secondly, cutting all the depts you measured has nothing to do with what you're thinking about. He wants to cut those depts to save money more than anything else. He's against the Civil War because it was the first time in our history we printed extra money out of thin air. He's against all wars because it costs too much. 35% of our budget goes toward the military.
@AvishekDrops You imply that I said "RP is racist because he has KKK supporters." To be blunt, since I never said any such thing. You seem to wish to put words in my mouth so that you can attack what I didn't say - Straw Man Fallacy.
Ron Paul has said that people have a "right" to racially discriminate, said slaves shouldn't have been set free, and believes the Confederacy had a right to secede. Your excuses for his bigotry are amplified by your own dishonesty.
@dan91709 Well you asked me why I thought white supremacists love him, and that this indicates he is a nut job. So maybe I did commit this fallacy, but many others use this argument to perpetrate the false notion that RP is racist, so I was addressing that as being the fallacy. I have not heard of the claims you make, but I would think there are reasons other than the too-easy-to-go-to racism excuse as one of them.
@AvishekDrops It's now abundantly obvious that you are a cowardly white supremacist. You've lied and trolled this discussion, made spurious straw men arguments, and have refused to answer simple and direct questions - all the while supporting discrimination in jobs, housing, and education as well as Ron Paul's contention that slaves should not have been set free.
@dan91709 How does cutting the depts he wants to cut result in "discrimination in jobs".. like I said it has nothing to do with jobs it ahs to do with the national debt of 15 trillion dollars.It is obvious that your logic is flaws, since I'm Indian in ethnicity..not a white supremacist as you would think. A minority indeed. Also RP did want the slaves set free what are you talking about? He didn't want a Civil War for it because it killed so many ppl and cost $
@AvishekDrops You're an ignorant racist and a lying troll. I don't care what your ethnicity is. Your belief in racial discrimination and mindless hate are clear.
@dan91709 Lol. Clearly. Except I don't believe in mindless hate.. but I do believe in tolerance for others' views no matter what. The truth will prevail in the end.
@AvishekDrops Limited evidence? You stupid schmuck. He sent out racist news letters. That is not "limited evidence." Of course he is going to deny being a racist. You jack ass.
@RONPAULFREEDUMB If he is racist, why does he want to decriminalize drug use and end the drug war that greatly affects the minorities in this country? And the illegal wars also....tell me.
@RONPAULFREEDUMB THis one's easy...I find that most people who don't understand RP are the real dumb asses of society. We all know Lew Rockwell wrote those newsletters. Rp did not write them. He also doesn't "deny" being a racist as in he doens't say, "i'm not a racist" he gets offended by the fools who think he is one.
@AvishekDrops You stupid schmuck. Lew Rockwell was a VP in the Ron Paul corporation that published those letters. It's teh same fucking thing as Ron Paul writing them. Ron Paul supporters are the dumb asses of society. Ron Paul is a dumb ass so if you support him you are one as well. He's a idiot on economic issues and Constitutional law.
@JPCrespo Forceful? if you mean forceful by using logic, facts and history, and the constitution I guess you could say forceful. Just because you agree with those who want to control other people doesn't make you right DUDE. Oh the logical fallacies of YOU! Give people freedom, no totalitarianism! We don't want government controlling us, OK? I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he did roast Chris Matthews to the point where even Chris himself agreed, watch the video again.
RON PAUL IS A SCREWBALL! HE IS A RACIST LITTLE TROLL WHO SHOULD GO BACK UNDER A BRIDGE. THIS GUY REALLY IS A DOUBLE OF FRED ASTAIRE! HE CAN DANCE AS GOOD AROUND AN ISSUE LIKE RACISM AS FREDDY WOULD DANCE WITH GINGER RODGERS.
Until people show they can be trusted with the liberties he is espousing, the rule of law must stay where it is. Law is for the weakest of human character.
Ron is describing a utopian society that will NEVER exist because not all people will always choose the better way and he will not want law to punish those who choose to screw up people's lives.
Presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s campaign catch-phrase, “Keep America American,” was a central theme of Ku Klux Klan publications and threats towards African-Americans and other minorities in the early 1900s
@DaveElectric Go read the tax code instead of posting your little pedestrian soundbites. I like everyone else is taxed on their gross income meaning any money that is generated, earned or gifted to me. So there is no difference between the two. If am a slave what are you? A tax cheat or a wanna be tax cheat?
@JPCrespo Yes, because some little piece of paper is what determines whether my hard earned money is "hard earned tax dollars".
Your a slave for thinking someone else ought to determine how to spend your money. A complete slave. Me a wannabe tax cheat? So what. Atleast I'm not a slave who thinks he earns money for someone else.
Well.. by reading your post you actually admit that you earn money for someone else. Who cares what you think opinions are like assholes and every idiot like yourself is entitled to one. That is as far as I will take your brand of liberatarism. Now self confenssed wanna be a tax cheat are you gonna keep spitting in the wind or actually not file 1034 this year. Come on grow some balls at least. Promise to write you while you are behind bars. LOL!
@JPCrespo Yeah, i earn money for someone else because of this thing called GOVERNMENT VIOLENCE. It's not because I accept it. The difference between you and me is I keep my dignity at the end of the day and refuse to consent to it by not accepting their language.
@DaveElectric Exactly I'm tired of people like JPCrespo who apparently think it's ok for the gov. to take our money and use it to control us and write their own paychecks while doing it. It's time to tear the con artists machine down and give power to those who really want to serve their country.
@DaveElectric Your missing the point. Its not that discrimination would become mainstream but that it still occurs with enough frequency to require the protections afforded by the 16th Amendment of the Constitution. Why dont you pay closer attention to the exchange instead of having some knee jerk reaction and posting it on Youtube.
@JPCrespo It would never occur with enough frequency to require protections. The only people who believe that are people ignorant of economics and people who have never ran a business in their life.
Oh please kid......the more you post the more your ignorance unfolds. Ever heard of the Equal Protection Agency and looked the docket of business that are fined and pay fines voluntarly on a yearly basis for employment discrimintation? Obviously not. You are as dumb as Ron Paul and you have drank this old sinile grandpa's cool aid. Go learn something about anything before you come back here and post. You are a Joke!
@JPCrespo So what if a EPA is fining business right now? So what? The fact that laws are on the books doesn't prove that they are needed. The fallacy of that logic is obvious.
You're a joke. You think some piece of paper somewhere makes your income "hard earned tax dollars". Ideas are what run the world and your ideas are slave ones. Your money isn't "hard earned tax dollars"....its just your money. Maintain some dignity man.
First, the EPA is the Environmental Protection Agency, not even part of our discussion look up the "Equal Protection Agency". Shows that you know nothing and as a know nothing you back to repeating the same crap you posted orginally. Like a dog in a frenzy you chase your own tale. You are a clueless. What a fool you are. Please keep positing having had this much laughter in a while.
@JPCrespo Jesus Christ you know full well what I meant by the "EPA". Quit acting like you don't know what I was talking about.
You either have forgotten the importance of contex clues (a lesson you learn in elementary school) or you're just a troll who only cares about winning and I'm pretty sure you are the latter.
Legalize freedom? Didn't know it was illegal. This guy is the biggest simpleton. Most people won't commit homicide either does that mean we should legalize it?
WATCH = Ron Paul Most Popular Republican Amongst Non-Whites
vic4rp 1 day ago
Chris Matthews hates the whole human race...except for those who write his paychecks.
nedster7 5 days ago
I wish ron paul would have just said yes to the question I think he has a somewhat good argue 4:18. If he would have just said yes then I would have taken him more seriously.
Acclamatar 6 days ago
look at George Jung! Went into Prison as the learner of Marijuana and came ot the Doctor of Cocaine! So yeah Paul does have a point that its rediculous to lock up young kids who are just beggining their lives for making mistakes!
StephenWestSyd 1 week ago
Ron Paul is NOT racist:
(RP gave Free medical service to the wife of a black man where none else would in the 70s) ==> watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4
watch?v=i3EADdr-5AY => The racist drug war and RP libertarian polices
watch?v=wqBZJ66IVfo => Ron Paul is NOT a racist. PART 1
watch?v=9RMrkqFWu6A => Ron Paul is NOT a racist. PART 2
watch?v=j1uc7x4a8SM => A Black man defending RP
Ron Paul back in the day as a doctor => ht tp://oi46.tinypic.c om/2ai4jzr.jpg
Jeanluck1 1 week ago
Ron Paul can't answer a straight question on national television because he's a lying stinking racist nutjob that knows his unvarnished hate would appall 90% of Americans.
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 Yeah, cuz everyone can just feel the hate in this clip. If you support freedom of association, you have to support it even when people practice it for ridiculous reasons. If people wanted to discriminate based on height, it would be perfectly legal; no one would think that to be anything necessary to outlaw. But if we had a horrible history of extreme discrimination and slavery based on height, people would be biting at the bit to outlaw it.
dariusI404 1 week ago
@dariusI404 By the logic of laws against racial discrimination, we should outlaw any reason for denying or terminating employment not related to actual job performance, such as political orientation, or obnoxious attitude; even being a RACIAL BIGOT would not be grounds for firing, or denial of work. Don't want to hire them because they're racist? That's discrimination. You can't simply say "I want to discriminate only against the people I don't like." You would have to cease ALL discrimination.
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@dariusI404 "Don't want to hire them because they're racist? That's discrimination."
That's a very novel idea. I suggest you bring it up at your next KKK Bar-B-Que. (rolls eyes)
dan91709 5 days ago
@dariusI404 No one has a right to a job, the same way no one has a right to enter your home, uninvited. Without property rights, everyone would own everything. How would that work out? Not very well. Property rights are what allow prices to develop, which then allow economic reasoning and allocation of resources. This is the most rational and unpolitical way to order society. We are seeing the effects of private property rights violations that are creating our present situation.
nedster7 5 days ago
@dan91709 Yeah, I'm sure that's his goal: to roll back race relations to 1642. Sure. Not to mention he's drawing crowds of thousands to hear him speak and millions of supporters who fervently donate to his campaign. If this "racist" is drawing such support, why didn't David Duke (KKK member) draw such support? I guess your implying that Paul supporters are racist too, or are being duped by a guy who wants to eliminate the drug war, which imprisons lots of nonviolent minorities.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 Yeah, in comparison to the corporate shape-shifter and the theotard with gay sex on his brain, Ron Paul looks pretty good! LOL! That's why he has 18 delegate votes to Romney's 105 - and why an average of only 2.75% of eligible voters bothered to pry their cans off the couch and go vote. Yep, veeeery impressive. (chuckle) Heck, even the Grinch has more delegates.
dan91709 5 days ago
@dan91709 I'm not sure Gingrich has more delegates. I believe (I'll have to check) that Ron Paul has the second highest amount of delegates under Romney. I don't expect Paul to win. I do expect the country to decline while people fight over racism, even though we have a president of African heritage. I also know that anyone can be accused of anything, especially when it is used as a red herring to distract people from real issues, like skyrocketing debt and currency devaluation.
nedster7 5 days ago
@dan91709 Hey, why don't we have a constitutional amendment to abolish the presidency, and then we won't have to worry about one guy trying to please everybody. I know, crazy idea--not gonna happen. I like it though. I'll please everyone by making this my last post here.
nedster7 5 days ago
ok so what he is saying is that the government has no right to control your private property. If someone wanted to put up that sign it would be their right. BUT I do not support the racism, IF someone did that today that would be suicide for their business imagine the protests at that shop. On the other side the shop could say for blacks only. If someone would post something like that. Our culture doesn't tolerate racism. It is like the smoking banning on private property.
chadmwentz 2 weeks ago
@chadmwentz Chad, I realize you have a "thing" for Ronnie Paul, but if you think there's no such thing as real racism, I suggest you read some of Paul's newsletters. That'll give you an idea of how ugly it can get. I'm just sayin' :-)
dan91709 5 days ago
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chadmwentz 2 weeks ago
I see Ron Paul supporters as the mirror image of wedge issue voters. Wedge issue voters are willing to ignore candidate shortcomings on non wedge issues. Ron Paul voters are willing to ignore his views on wedge issues. Paul supporters become indignant and say things like, "let's talk about real issues" when they are brought up. Paul supporters seem not to be able to grasp how offensive it is to, for example, pro-choice women or minorities when they are described as ot being "real issues".
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Nope not true. It's all one big picture that RP is espousing, liberty, following the constitution, limited federal involvement in personal affairs. The reality is that people such as yourself, who are concerned with these "wedge" issues, do not see the big picture that RP promotes here. Many take an issue such as his stance on evolution, marraige, abortion, immigration, and the Civil Rights Act, out of context form the whole.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops Okay, let me ask you a very simple question. Please don't go on and on with this or that and just answer a simple question with a simple answer. Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people? Again, please, a simple answer for my simple question.
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Let me ask you a simple question. Is your question even a valid question? Yo don't get my point so I won't address yours. Your concern has no legitimacy. It stems from insecurity.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops So your answer is yes. At least have some courage and come out and say it. Seems like a pretty nutless "Revolution".
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 No, I don't think people should discriminate like that. Neither does RP. You see, Ron Paul is being courageous voicing his opinions on this bill, I mean who in their right mind would be against this act? But when you look deeper at what he's saying, he says that it didn't solve racial tensions.. which is true. Furthermore, the Russians pressured us into creating this act, they were making fun of us for being racist, so the act wasn't based on any real substance
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops Please don't dodge the question like Ron Paul does. The question was not whether people "should" discriminate it was whether people "should be able to". So, again I present the simple question: Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Yes people should be allowed to discriminate and they do, everyday. You do. People choose what brands of food to buy, they choose who to have sex with, too. They choose who can and cannot come into their homes. This is the private property ideal Paul is discussing. We all discriminate. But anyone who puts up a "No Blacks" sign would go out of business. Your implying we need Big Brother rather than the market to sort this out.
nedster7 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Let me ask you this. Would you want to do business with an openly racist person? Would your community? No, right? Then, there is obviously no need for force against this person. You would simply not give consent by buying stuff from him. He would probably lose his business. Anyone not committing violence, or theft is someone who can be ignored. Do you attack "mean people" with the law? No, you ignore them. Problem mostly solved.
nedster7 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Strong, centralized government is obviously not the remedy to racism. Hitler used power to murder people he didn't like. One open secret is that Hitler hated the states' rights concept that Ron Paul defends. Power can be used for good or ill. That is why you want limited power and decentralization. This way people can have a wide variety of choices of how to live (otherwise pejoratively known as "discrimination"). Don't take my word. Look it up.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 God, you Ron Paul people are nutjobs. Hitler blah blah blah. Well, the fabulous founders used a not so strong central government to allow slavery. Simple headed arguments are pointless.
ActaNonVerba71 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I do not make arguments based on name calling, or empty "blah blah blah" slogans. The Hitler argument is a pertinent one and based on real history that actually happened. The institution of slavery is a reflection of people's lack of morals at that time. I think my argument is rather based on careful study and reading for many years. So who will you vote for? I wish you luck with whoever it is.
nedster7 5 days ago
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@ActaNonVerba71 Thank you for demonstrating that you, yourself discriminate. I don't agree with what you have to say, but I defend your right to discriminate against "Ron Paul nut jobs." You should open up a restaurant that will not serve Ron Paul supporters. I defend your right in that also.
nedster7 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 There are actually black Americans (and people of other heritage) who support Ron Paul. I can only assume you would say that these people are either dupes, who are being led down the primrose path or are "Uncle Toms," sellouts to their own race. Maybe they see important things that there 5th grade teacher didn't tell them.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 This is why I can't to you Ron Paul nutjobs (no,not all Ron Paul supporters are nutjobs). Do you think I"m retarded? You can't sound reasonable for like 90% of your post and then throw in some insulting stupid shit (e.g. "Maybe they see important things that there 5th grade teacher didn't tell them.") and expect people not to notice. I'm not playing this game with you where you pretend to be respectful and reasonable.
ActaNonVerba71 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 " God, you Ron Paul people are nutjobs," implies you think all of us are nut jobs. These are your words. No, I don't think your retarded. But you are already playing the game. You post here, don't you? I am respectful and reasonable. Debate is debate. It has to sting a little, when people disagree. I just won't go to the level of name calling.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 No matter the outcome, we are peaceful, right? I thoroughly enjoy this.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 I should not have written that. I usually qualify as I did in the next comment I wrote: "you Ron Paul nutjobs (no,not all Ron Paul supporters are nutjobs)." So, there, I admitted I made a mistake. But, you won't. At least if I had written "Ron Paul people are nutjobs" and meant it I would have had the balls to say it directly. Better than this cowardly poorly concealed faux "I"m respectful and reasonable" jive the nutjob wing of Ron Paul supporters use.
ActaNonVerba71 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I don't mean to insult. I do retract my 5th grade teacher comment and stand by everything else. That aside, I do feel that social science education in this country is the pits. Especially when lots of books are free today. But that's another story. Bye now. I won't send another message unless I receive one from you.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 Dude, you really gotta let me respond before you send a second reply. Now I look like a douchebag because you've already retracted your comment. As far as education, I think the way Civics has been limited or taken out from the classroom all-together is a travesty.
ActaNonVerba71 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Sorry, enjoying the debate. Look, Ron Paul folks have a difficult position to defend, because it counters what is taught in schools, presented in the media, etc. It's so easy to characterize anyone as racist because a human being has to make choices, therefore discriminate. I don't just want anyone to enter my life, for example. People make choices for all kinds of reasons. It is individual rights that deserve protection. Not group rights. Individual rights apply equally.
nedster7 5 days ago
@nedster7 You are right. There will always be compromises. We all have our priorities. For me, the right of any American to travel anywhere in his country and grab a beer, or have a bite to eat, or pick up some groceries, or see a movie....without facing rejection or humiliation for attempting to do so.....is far more important than the right of bigots to humiliate and exclude fellow Americans in the name of "property rights".
ActaNonVerba71 5 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I don't disagree with you, not totally. Like most people we may disagree on method. I don't like racism and people can use property rights to discriminate. But it can be difficult to discern, for example: someone excludes a drug user (who happens to be a different race). That is simply why competition must exist. I don't want to eat where people hate me. So I'll go where I'm more welcome. Competition will weed out poor establishments. Nothing is perfect, but comp. is good.
nedster7 4 days ago
@nedster7 What does something hating you have to do with anything when you go eat? I"m sorry but it's real tough for me not to get ugly when you say these things that sound so incredibly non empathetic to your fellow human beings. Nobody goes and finds the owner every time they go to a restaurant or a bar or a bowling alley or a grocery store, or a laundromat, etc.. to make sure the owner doesn't hate them. You just go in and eat, bowl, shop, or wash. You just sound so callous.
ActaNonVerba71 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I may sound callous but I did not join the Marines. Soldiers are trained to kill, are they not? If Ron Paul is such a bad guy, then why does he receive more funding from all active military then the rest of the candidates combined? Are we in the Middle East to really help people? You brought up the example of "No Blacks," at an establishment that serves people, not me. What you don't understand is that freedom can only work when it crosses all sectors of human life.
nedster7 4 days ago
@nedster7 support from the military means what exactly? Military people don't want to go to war. it doesn't take a genius to understand why they would support his non war stance. Military people view on politics is just as relevant, no more, than any other demographic.
spacedog1973 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Competition can only thrive through low or local regulation. We have it now, but it can be weak. If a butcher sells rotten meat, we need somewhere else to go. That is why freedom of choice makes sense. Liberty needs to reign across all sectors of life. Then morality can be freely chosen. Only a free man/woman can choose to be moral. Take care. (P.S. Don't you wish some talking heads on tv would stop shouting---i like the voice immodulation comment below).
nedster7 4 days ago
@nedster7 I just can't stand it with some of you Ron Paul people anymore. What do you not understand about less powerful people being treated like sh#t and humiliated by more powerful people being wrong? Forget the constitution. It doesn't hold a candle to being humane. Call it morals (or ethics for the non religious), they wipe their arse with the constitution. I was in the Marines for 10 years and I love my country. But, sorry I'm a human being and a man before I'm anything else.
ActaNonVerba71 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I am alive. I understand perfectly about being mistreated. I am forced to pay taxes every year or I go to jail. Wouldn't you call that slavery? If not,how would you define it? Forgetting the Constitution is throwing away the rule of law. You want a government of laws, not rulers. If you love people so much, why not try and persuade them without calling them callous or saying you can't stand them. I don't believe your sincere. Is your Constitutional oath a lie?
nedster7 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 To backtrack, why bring up the importance of civics in education if you don't care about the Constitution, the rule of law you swore to defend?
nedster7 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 I would argue that war is the ultimate mistreatment of less powerful people. What "holds a candle" to the evil of war? Self defense is one thing, but invasion and occupation is the highest example of what you supposedly hate so much. Be consistent. Think about the trees and the forest.
nedster7 4 days ago
@nedster7 I don't respond to muli-part (i.e. multi block) replies. Give me one reply at a time within the allotted character limit and I will respond. I know it sucks when you're trying to discuss something important but I"m not scrolling around trying to find an answer your replies. Also, please actually respond to me replies rather than just keep splintering off trying to show how awesome Ron Paul is.
ActaNonVerba71 4 days ago
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@nedster7 I don't respond to muli-part (i.e. multi block) replies. Give me one reply at a time within the allotted character limit and I will respond. I know it sucks when you're trying to discuss something important but I"m not scrolling around trying to find an answer your replies. Also, please actually respond to me replies rather than just keep splintering off trying to show how awesome Ron Paul is.
ActaNonVerba71 4 days ago
@ActaNonVerba71 He's a smart guy, it's about congressional authority for him. But the simpletons cannot grasp thsi concept so they prefer to isolate one issue, such as racism, and live in hate. There is no hate being portrayed by RP for being against the Civil Rights Act. Instead, it's integrity. Who else stands up so firmly in their principles?
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops Please answer the simple question, my initial question, for which you have now spent 3 comments avoiding. In answer to your question, I stand up so firmly in my principles.
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Please answer this, Did the CRA reduce discrimination? I'll answer it for you. it INCREASED DISCRIMINATION. WAKE THE FUCK UP. When white racists back then were FORCED to hire black people, that did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to solve reacial tensions. The act was a waste. Racism has been close to 100% absolved now, due to people just becoming smarter and more accepting, and the old racists dying out. I just don't understand why you're asking me this question.. it's completely irrelevant
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops I have spent time talking to you and I have read through everything you have typed. I have patiently awaited a direct, simple response to my direct, simple question. Yet, in four comments from you since my initial question, you still have not given me the courtesy of a straightforward response. So, again, I ask, Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Ditto. Unfortunately, you refuse to look at the big picture as well, and this is a primary issue. I already did answer your question. But personally, I don't know how I feel about the issue. What's more important for me, is that people such as yourself understand how difficult it is to be against the CRA. Instead, you insist that RP is a racist.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 So I will not answer your question, which I already did. It's clear that you refuse to answer my questions, because you are starting to realize that you are wrong.What people do in these instances, is they find a topic which they think will finalize the issue because it takes the ease off their cognitive processing and shifts the spotlight to someone else. Good luck, i've debated with thousands of people an you'r ebringing some naive strategies to the table rather than discussion
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops What on earth are you talking about? You didn't ask me anything. You sort of asked me something and then stated you were going to answer it for me. I am not trying any "strategies" on you. All I asked is one straightforward question for which you have not answered five times in a row. So, for the sixth time, Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 Do you understand what the CRA did in 1964? Do you understand that the federal gov't forced white racist individuals to hire black people? DO you understand that this does not solve racism? So your question is unintelligent. So for the 6th time, please just look at the big picture.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops In answer to your questions: yes, yes, and yes. Now, here's our situation. I asked you a simple question 6 times. You evaded answering six times. All the while I have been polite and have answered your questions in the most straightforward way possible, with a simple "yes". Now, please, just answer my question: Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 THank you. I do not know how I feel about this issue. I cannot say no, or yes. I can definitively say that NO, people should not discriminate, but as far as having the right to, this question takes libertarianism to its most extreme test. Although important to consider this question, it is highly unlikely that this could happen. And if it does, the ownder of that restaurant will be serving a very small number of like-minded folk.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@ActaNonVerba71 The fact that white supremacists still do exist, shows that there is potential for this to happen. But again if it does, it would not happen at popular restaurants.. black folk would not be discriminated against since it would not occur on any more than the smallest scale imaginable. Basically things would remain the same way they are now.. with racists in the south staying racist, and everyone else.. progressing. Same with legalizing heroin, not much would change.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
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@AvishekDrops Okay, for the seventh time now, you have evaded giving a simple response to a simple question. However, given that your responses have largely included placating language of the "don't worry, it really wouldn't be a big deal" variety, I can oly assume your answer to the question, " "Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says "No Blacks" and subsequently refuse services to Black people?" is "yes".
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
Chris Matthews Pounded Ron Paul On The Property Rights Issue. This Ron Paul Would Allow State Run Segregation, All Because Libertarians Don't Stand Up Against Tyranny Because It Would Impinge On Pesonal Freedoms To Racist.
TheJungleCityKilla 2 weeks ago
@TheJungleCityKilla false. People are way too insecure if they really believe that. calm down.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@TheJungleCityKilla I asked AvishekDrops one simple question, "Do you think the owner of a restaurant open to the public should be able to put up a sign that says 'No Blacks' and subsequently refuse services to Black people?". He first refused to answer. Then, he dodged the question and said, "No, I don't think people should discriminate like that." when that wasn't the question. The question wasn't whether he thinks it's right; it was whether he thinks they "should be able to".
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
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@ActaNonVerba71 Actually That Was My Point To Him But He Said That People Who Think That Black's Civil Rights Will Be Violated Are Crazy & Shouldn't Be Taken Seriously.
TheJungleCityKilla 2 weeks ago
The media is trying to destory Ron Paul HE IS NOT RACIST! /watch?v=i3EADdr-5AY
NoFukinNamesLeft 2 weeks ago
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AWESOME BREAKING NEWS!! CASE CLOSED!!
PLEASE HELP KEEP THIS COMMENT AT THE TOP BY NOT COMMENTING ANYMORE!!
EXPOSED, James B. Powell is the mystery writer of the "racist" statements found in a few of Ron Paul's newsletters. EXPOSED by reporter Ben Swann for Cincinnati Fox News Channel 19
These videos HAVE TO GO VIRAL!!
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fox19.com/story/16458700/reality-check-the-name-of-a-mystery-writer-of-one-of-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters
shawso7 3 weeks ago
Guarantee you if Ron Paul becomes president and he does what he says with property rights, all over the south, there will be signs saying "no blacks." GUARANTEE. You don't know untill you have lived in the south. THey are just waiting for the chance to go back to 1964 type days.
savan30 4 weeks ago
@savan30 maybe. I'm a RP supporter, but what we have to do is look at the big picture. and that's what RP does. It's about following the constitution, limiting federal gov't, and allowing freedom of choice. Of course there are potential issues with this design. But there are still gov't involved. If RP becomes president, the states would decide what is legal and what is not. And at this day and age, legislators int he south are not going to legalize what you describe.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
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@AvishekDrops false. People are way too insecure if they really believe that. calm down.
What Exactly Is False About My Last Statement???????????? You Aren't Being Very Clear Or Coherent In That Last Message. If You're Going To Take The Time To Respond To Someone's Comment At Least Explain Yourself In A Clear & Concise Manner So As To Give Your Correspondent A Legitimate Chance To Respond Correctly To Your Points Of Disagreement.
TheJungleCityKilla 2 weeks ago
Fuck Chris Meatthews
FlyingDutchman65 1 month ago
Clearly I'm bot going to watch this. When the term racist is involved, I lose all interest. It just angers me that my mother and sister are against him simply because the media called him "racist." Obama is a racist! I said it, so it must be true. Well, it probably is true, but that's irrelevant. Everyone who reads this, go storm Obama's home!
youbetterbelievehah 1 month ago
"I HAVE VOICE IMMODULATION PROBLEMS TINA!"
libertythemovement 1 month ago
The drug war is a perfect example. The reality is that people do drugs anyway. Kids grow up with shitty parents regardless of gov't intervention. It's just reality. There will always be some shitty people, and their kids will always suffer. You CANNOT fix it. By believing gov't can fix it, all your doing is giving up freedom. It's a shitty world, it ALWAYS has been, it ALWAYS will be. Stop crying about, and stop telling me what to do, and STOP using my money for your wars.
Vindigary 1 month ago
Chris Matthews is really stupid. He's the guy who gets a tingling feeling up his leg when he hears Barrack Obama speak. He thinks Obama and the gov't can fix EVERY problem in the fucking world. Libertarians are realists. We understand that people should be free to fix their own problems because gov't cannot fix your problems. Liberals, communists, and neocoms are naive, and their lack of wisdom is the reason we are in this mess. This great eutopia that gov't promises isn't real.
Vindigary 1 month ago
WOW RON PAUL absolutely owns this guy, this matthews character is in WAY over his head. I'm a believer RON PAUL!!!
matteo132000 1 month ago
Against Obama=Racist?
dawnremains 1 month ago
"There are more people addicted to LEGAL drugs than ILLEGAL drugs." True. True.
dawnremains 1 month ago 4
Chris Matthews is a total idiot
Odessit5821 1 month ago
@JulesAndVincent54 listen to me, u dont tell me im a racist alright!
Iv been balls fukn DEEP inside a big titted hairy vagd nigger whore lol, gave it to her and emptied inside her ..i know what fucking is all about, how dare u!
NO condom (because the regular ones she had didnt fit, i need the magnun ultras) and i reinacted George washingtons battle with jungle fever..a battle i ended up losing may i add
ArtieLangeXM 1 month ago
@JulesAndVincent54 i didnt give them credit, that was done by the founding fathers ..who also owned "them" as you refer to human beings.
Feel free to make a point when possible, racist.
: )
ArtieLangeXM 1 month ago
Not really sure how this was racist just that guy from hardball trying to have a good show..lol but he's right, the country's that have legalize all drugs DON'T HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM!
XavierBorrero 1 month ago
Racists want to bomb Africa without congressional approval like Obama. Ron Paul doesn't want to blow up any more brown people overseas. Zionists created liberalism to destroy America. If you support that, you want America to collapse. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. OWNED!
Standonarock 1 month ago
Can u imagine these fukn dumb paul supporters, "if businesses deny service to blacks then they would certainly go outbof business"
Apparently 100% of american business did that and they ALL continued to stay in business without blinking an eye...those are historical facts. Wanna argue abou that lol, guess whox gonna win ..dropouts lol
ArtieLangeXM 1 month ago
@ArtieLangeXM 1960 = 2012 amirite?
thoth81 1 month ago
This guy is a fucking genius wow. America is stupid if we don't vote for him. HE IS FUCKING TRYING TO FREE AMERICA FROM THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING OUR FREE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US BY GOD.
BeastMode08 1 month ago 9
@BeastMode08 YES!! someone who understands, if you haven't heard of SOPA, it's a law that if passed by congress, the government will be able to sensor the internet, and block webb pages like piratebay and other things they don't want us to see, this will lead to the ability for them to take many more of our freedom, something tells me that if Ron Paul, wins, it will be a change for the best
FPSlayer17 1 month ago
@FPSlayer17 the only reason ron paul may win is because they haven't gotten their greedy hands on the internet yet. if ron paul doesn't win we may never be able to coordinate as a people like we are able to now. cuz lets be honest the media hasn't looked twice at ron paul while the internet has praised him as a god. thats because the media is bought and the internet isn't yet. oh well i hope we witness a miracle.
BeastMode08 1 month ago
@BeastMode08 that's because most of the media support lobbiest candidates.
FPSlayer17 3 weeks ago
@BeastMode08 there is no god
laitho90 1 month ago
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LiveAndLocalRadio 3 weeks ago
lol did you even watch this video? maybe you should give this one another shot, and listen to Chris's point.
laksroommate 3 weeks ago
I think Ron Paul is giving him a harder time than the other way around, lol.
BloodskullMannoroth 1 month ago
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bigredbrent 1 month ago
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"Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment."
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LIBERTYALONE 1 month ago
Chris Matthews is a moron. If he would just listen he would understand
leebilly48 1 month ago
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I LOVE RON PAUL!!
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Newt is a wife-beater and steals money from the 99%---he will never be president!---he is a racist and should retire in 2012!!
ZElNKIENZlAN 1 month ago
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abeismain 1 month ago
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Finally, the Author of Ron Paul's Newsletter's Racist Articles Uncovered
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luisivich 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a racist. He published racist news letters, he endorsed David Duke, he wants to repeal the civil rights laws. He's a fucking racist piece of shit.
RONPAULFREEDUMB 2 months ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB
LMAO...Okay, first off, you need to know that he NEVER said he wanted to get rid of the civil rights laws. He mentioned that we were better off getting rid of the Jim Crow Laws which enforced segregation, but the news program that he mentioned it on, intentionally mixed it up so that it would look like he said we were better off with the Jim Crow laws.
jreily88 2 months ago
@jreily88 He's saying that people should be "free" to discriminate on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. He "says" he's against Jim Crow laws.
Ron Paul is a career politician that knows what topics to avoid so as to appear reasonable to the general public, but 20 years of racist commentary in his own newsletters show what he really is.
dan91709 1 month ago
@dan91709
Okay, if you want to believe everything you see on the news, then that's fine with me, and there is no point in trying to argue with someone like yourself. Why do you think there are more african american supporters of Ron Paul, then Obama? The man's voting record proves that he can get the job done...never voting to raise the debt ceiling, never voting to raise taxes, the only candidate with military AND medical experience, etc.
jreily88 1 month ago
@dan91709
The president of the NAACP even supports ron paul
jreily88 1 month ago
@jreily88 As usual, another Ron Paul distortion. If one misguided *local* Texas chapter leader (Nelson Linder) is the best you can do, fine. But characterizing him as the "President" of the NAACP is, in fact, a lie.
Ron Paul believes people have the "right" to discriminate against people on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. You can't deny it, so you try to fallaciously say that "if" the "President" of the NAACP was duped (which he wasn't) then everyone else should be too. FAIL
dan91709 1 month ago
@dan91709 He's not racist. He wants freedom, and people want to interpret it as him being racist.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops Sure he wants "freedom." Freedom for states to reinstitute racial segregation or secede from the Union to preserve the "right" to discriminate on the basis of race and religion in jobs and housing. That's no exaggeration.
The man is a nutjob of the first order. Why do you think white supremicists love him so?
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 That's how you choose to view it. What I see is that RP will uphold his faith to the constitution and limited federal involvement in personal affairs no matter how controversial it gets. He knows some people will interpret it as him being racist, but the problem he is addressing is much more complex. The Civil Rights Act did not solve discrimination, it forced white people to hire blacks, and this increased tension. Now that racism is pretty much over, discrimination isn't a problem
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 It's a logical fallacy to conclude that just because supremacists and leaders of the KKK support RP, and have taken pictures with RP, means that RP supports whtie supremacists...many black people support Ron Paul too...because they just like his ideas and principles and don't get too influenced by these conspiracy theories.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops You said "The Civil Rights Act did not solve discrimination, it forced white people to hire blacks." Hum.
Ron Paul has publicly said that the Civil War was unconstitutional despite contrary findings of the US Supreme Court. He says that freeing the slaves was wrong, and that people have a "right" to racially discriminate in jobs and housing. He believes states have the right to bar interracial marriage, and to discriminate in education.
There's no logical fallacy (cont)
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops (cont) in mentioning that white supremacists resonate with these clearly racist views. I mentioned them not as evidence, but purely to inform readers where much of his highly charged support comes from.
Ron Paul's stated desire to close the Department of Education, Homeland Security, Transportation, Energy, Health & Human Services, Commerce, EPA, and the Federal Reserve System, is just the beginning of his desired Confederate revival.
He's a hateful nut and a liar.
Any questions?
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 THe logical fallacy is assuming that RP is racist because he has KKK supporters. Secondly, cutting all the depts you measured has nothing to do with what you're thinking about. He wants to cut those depts to save money more than anything else. He's against the Civil War because it was the first time in our history we printed extra money out of thin air. He's against all wars because it costs too much. 35% of our budget goes toward the military.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops You imply that I said "RP is racist because he has KKK supporters." To be blunt, since I never said any such thing. You seem to wish to put words in my mouth so that you can attack what I didn't say - Straw Man Fallacy.
Ron Paul has said that people have a "right" to racially discriminate, said slaves shouldn't have been set free, and believes the Confederacy had a right to secede. Your excuses for his bigotry are amplified by your own dishonesty.
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 Well you asked me why I thought white supremacists love him, and that this indicates he is a nut job. So maybe I did commit this fallacy, but many others use this argument to perpetrate the false notion that RP is racist, so I was addressing that as being the fallacy. I have not heard of the claims you make, but I would think there are reasons other than the too-easy-to-go-to racism excuse as one of them.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops It's now abundantly obvious that you are a cowardly white supremacist. You've lied and trolled this discussion, made spurious straw men arguments, and have refused to answer simple and direct questions - all the while supporting discrimination in jobs, housing, and education as well as Ron Paul's contention that slaves should not have been set free.
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 How does cutting the depts he wants to cut result in "discrimination in jobs".. like I said it has nothing to do with jobs it ahs to do with the national debt of 15 trillion dollars.It is obvious that your logic is flaws, since I'm Indian in ethnicity..not a white supremacist as you would think. A minority indeed. Also RP did want the slaves set free what are you talking about? He didn't want a Civil War for it because it killed so many ppl and cost $
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops You're an ignorant racist and a lying troll. I don't care what your ethnicity is. Your belief in racial discrimination and mindless hate are clear.
dan91709 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 Lol. Clearly. Except I don't believe in mindless hate.. but I do believe in tolerance for others' views no matter what. The truth will prevail in the end.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@dan91709 nor do I believe in racial discrimination. We aren't likely to see anymore of it.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB Show me source that he endorsed David Duke. You should probably learn how to read first, btw.
bronx43 1 month ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB
Youre a fucking idiot. how old are you? 12?
KoizumiMN 1 month ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB no, but you are free to beleive what you wish based on limited evidence. You are however incorrect.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops Limited evidence? You stupid schmuck. He sent out racist news letters. That is not "limited evidence." Of course he is going to deny being a racist. You jack ass.
RONPAULFREEDUMB 2 weeks ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB He didn't write them, that's the problem.
uralldiseasedXD 2 weeks ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB If he is racist, why does he want to decriminalize drug use and end the drug war that greatly affects the minorities in this country? And the illegal wars also....tell me.
uralldiseasedXD 2 weeks ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB THis one's easy...I find that most people who don't understand RP are the real dumb asses of society. We all know Lew Rockwell wrote those newsletters. Rp did not write them. He also doesn't "deny" being a racist as in he doens't say, "i'm not a racist" he gets offended by the fools who think he is one.
AvishekDrops 2 weeks ago
@AvishekDrops You stupid schmuck. Lew Rockwell was a VP in the Ron Paul corporation that published those letters. It's teh same fucking thing as Ron Paul writing them. Ron Paul supporters are the dumb asses of society. Ron Paul is a dumb ass so if you support him you are one as well. He's a idiot on economic issues and Constitutional law.
RONPAULFREEDUMB 1 week ago
@RONPAULFREEDUMB you should explain why.
nedster7 5 days ago
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA 2012!
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
Fuck chris matthews and fuck MSNBC.
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he fucked up Chris Matthews and made him look stupid. DEFEAT OBAMA 2012!
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
@weseyedwalk LOL! Not really dude Just because you say something forecfully doesnt make it right. Oh the logical fallacies of Mr. Paul.
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo Forceful? if you mean forceful by using logic, facts and history, and the constitution I guess you could say forceful. Just because you agree with those who want to control other people doesn't make you right DUDE. Oh the logical fallacies of YOU! Give people freedom, no totalitarianism! We don't want government controlling us, OK? I'm not a Ron Paul fan, but he did roast Chris Matthews to the point where even Chris himself agreed, watch the video again.
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
RON PAUL 2012!
AlpineMusicSchool 2 months ago
RON PAUL IS A SCREWBALL! HE IS A RACIST LITTLE TROLL WHO SHOULD GO BACK UNDER A BRIDGE. THIS GUY REALLY IS A DOUBLE OF FRED ASTAIRE! HE CAN DANCE AS GOOD AROUND AN ISSUE LIKE RACISM AS FREDDY WOULD DANCE WITH GINGER RODGERS.
AdventureSeekerTeach 2 months ago
@AdventureSeekerTeach DEFEAT TEAM OBAMA/RON PAUL 2012! Block them both!
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
Until people show they can be trusted with the liberties he is espousing, the rule of law must stay where it is. Law is for the weakest of human character.
Ron is describing a utopian society that will NEVER exist because not all people will always choose the better way and he will not want law to punish those who choose to screw up people's lives.
MrApollonox 2 months ago
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TheCristo68 2 months ago
Policing the world? What the hell is this guy doing collecting my hard earned tax dollars as congressman if he so anti government?
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo You mean you hard earned money instead of "hard earned tax dollors".
Man, you are such a slave.
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@DaveElectric Go read the tax code instead of posting your little pedestrian soundbites. I like everyone else is taxed on their gross income meaning any money that is generated, earned or gifted to me. So there is no difference between the two. If am a slave what are you? A tax cheat or a wanna be tax cheat?
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo Yes, because some little piece of paper is what determines whether my hard earned money is "hard earned tax dollars".
Your a slave for thinking someone else ought to determine how to spend your money. A complete slave. Me a wannabe tax cheat? So what. Atleast I'm not a slave who thinks he earns money for someone else.
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@DaveElectric
Well.. by reading your post you actually admit that you earn money for someone else. Who cares what you think opinions are like assholes and every idiot like yourself is entitled to one. That is as far as I will take your brand of liberatarism. Now self confenssed wanna be a tax cheat are you gonna keep spitting in the wind or actually not file 1034 this year. Come on grow some balls at least. Promise to write you while you are behind bars. LOL!
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo Let me ask you one question: who does your paycheck belong to? It's a simple on word answer, so keep it simple.
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
@JPCrespo Yeah, i earn money for someone else because of this thing called GOVERNMENT VIOLENCE. It's not because I accept it. The difference between you and me is I keep my dignity at the end of the day and refuse to consent to it by not accepting their language.
Why tax cheat when I can vote for RP?
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@DaveElectric Exactly I'm tired of people like JPCrespo who apparently think it's ok for the gov. to take our money and use it to control us and write their own paychecks while doing it. It's time to tear the con artists machine down and give power to those who really want to serve their country.
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
This idiot is from Texas and thinks no one will discriminate in this day in age. Ever heard of Vidor congressman?
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo LOL, anyone who thinks discrimination would become mainstream is retarded beyond redemption
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@DaveElectric Your missing the point. Its not that discrimination would become mainstream but that it still occurs with enough frequency to require the protections afforded by the 16th Amendment of the Constitution. Why dont you pay closer attention to the exchange instead of having some knee jerk reaction and posting it on Youtube.
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo It would never occur with enough frequency to require protections. The only people who believe that are people ignorant of economics and people who have never ran a business in their life.
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@ DaveElectric
Oh please kid......the more you post the more your ignorance unfolds. Ever heard of the Equal Protection Agency and looked the docket of business that are fined and pay fines voluntarly on a yearly basis for employment discrimintation? Obviously not. You are as dumb as Ron Paul and you have drank this old sinile grandpa's cool aid. Go learn something about anything before you come back here and post. You are a Joke!
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo So what if a EPA is fining business right now? So what? The fact that laws are on the books doesn't prove that they are needed. The fallacy of that logic is obvious.
You're a joke. You think some piece of paper somewhere makes your income "hard earned tax dollars". Ideas are what run the world and your ideas are slave ones. Your money isn't "hard earned tax dollars"....its just your money. Maintain some dignity man.
DaveElectric 2 months ago
@DaveElectric
First, the EPA is the Environmental Protection Agency, not even part of our discussion look up the "Equal Protection Agency". Shows that you know nothing and as a know nothing you back to repeating the same crap you posted orginally. Like a dog in a frenzy you chase your own tale. You are a clueless. What a fool you are. Please keep positing having had this much laughter in a while.
JPCrespo 2 months ago
@JPCrespo Jesus Christ you know full well what I meant by the "EPA". Quit acting like you don't know what I was talking about.
You either have forgotten the importance of contex clues (a lesson you learn in elementary school) or you're just a troll who only cares about winning and I'm pretty sure you are the latter.
DaveElectric 2 months ago
Legalize freedom? Didn't know it was illegal. This guy is the biggest simpleton. Most people won't commit homicide either does that mean we should legalize it?
JPCrespo 2 months ago