Wing Chun Attacks

[Rava625]

any1 else heard of a bmi test? lol

[spildaleidodomo]

@Rava625 looooooooooool

[ogustyle93]

is the other guy Cyril Raffaelli?!

[Macnum6K]

ur FUCKING UGLy.

[beratio]

nothing impressive just a fat person swinging his arms ... try and fight a fit guy youl get squashed

[BTayache]

Dang you're good. *wing chun student*

[Positron33]

I recently started to study Ving Tsun (WSL lineage) and I'm very impressed with the system. Sure, it is possible that a karate guy can beat a VT guy, it really depends on the practisioner not always the system.

VT is a very nice close combat system and is very powerful if someone trains it well enough.. take for example a look at Sifu Morten Ibsen and his co. team :)

[dung159]

@hgamer Hey really quick palm at the very first strike i and my friend have been training wing chun recently but my friend learn taekwondo in the first place and he have pretty fast punches and quick reaction and he knows a lots of moves during double hand chi sao i always lose to him :(

[MrJrwicked]

@gorfjorf2112112 youve got punters so stop talkin and put that dick back in ya mouth!

[gorfjorf2112112]

@MrJrwicked - Hey man...don't be so down on yourself. Chin up! If you're gay...that's okay. Be a proud gay. But just get rid of your dick breath.

[MrJrwicked]

@gorfjorf2112112 YA CLEFT!

[gorfjorf2112112]

@MrJrwicked - That was a weak come back. Try again. I'll give you another shot.

[ridehonda107]

I would really like to see a video of Wing Chun being applied in a real, non-rehearsed fight. I'm not calling it fake, I just tend to not be able to see some of the practicalities of it. I'm sure it works well because its been practiced for years, but it'd be interesting to see how it holds up against an attacker who doesn't do Wing Chun. perhaps a racist redneck would serve as a good example.

[dung159]

guys, guys actually theres no differences in any martial arts, every martial arts is the same is whether how you learn, not how long you have been learning.

[gorfjorf2112112]

My uncle studied wing chun for almost 9 years...and he got his ass kicked outside a 7/11 by a guy who had studied only a month of Karate. You people need a reality check! Wing chung is a watered down version of karate. It came from karate. DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!

[hgamer]

@gorfjorf2112112 that's not wing chun, your family line is just a bunch of tards

[gorfjorf2112112]

@hgamer - My uncle was not a tard. He was just in a wheelchair. But the wing chun teacher told him he could still defend himself. Wing Chun sucks.

[YoungCrs]

@gorfjorf2112112 you can't put down ALL of wing chun after ONE guy got his ass whopped...there could be millions of reasons why your uncle got his ass beat

1.he probably didn't understand what wing chun is therefore he probably didn't train properly 2. he had a bad teacher who didn't correct him, or didn't know him self how to teach or to use wing chun 3. your uncle could have been a dumb ass 4. the karate guy probably got lucky

in conclusion: tell your uncle to do HIS research

happy holidays!

[gorfjorf2112112]

@YoungCrs - My uncle was in a wheelchair...but that shouldn't matter. Cuz his teacher told him he can still defend himself using wing chun. But it didn't work.

[YoungCrs]

@gorfjorf2112112 so you are saying a karate guy beat your uncle up, who was in a wheel chair at the time

that is total bullshit....either that or your uncle must have been asking for it

but anyway...the reason you just stated falls under category #2...he had a bad teacher who didn't correct him, or didn't know him self how to teach or to use wing chun...in wing chun, we depend on our structure...our whole body is put behind each and every technique, with out it, its just fast arm movements

[gorfjorf2112112]

@YoungCrs - He wasn't asking for it. He was in line at the movie theatre a kid cut in front of him. So my uncle said get in the back of the line or he'll beat the shit out of him. turns out the kid knew karate and beat up my uncle real bad. my uncle still has fears of kids now.

[YoungCrs]

@gorfjorf2112112 do your research son

because you just sound like an ignorant mother fu*ker

you cannot base what you are saying off of one person's inexperience...in this case maybe 2...if anyone is stupid it is your uncle's sifu AND your uncle for believing in him....any serious teacher would have let his student know whats up from the beginning...if he didn't then he is just leading him into a fantasy separated from reality...not only that but it makes the sifu a money hungry douche

[gorfjorf2112112]

@YoungCrs - Listen grandson, just go back to training your karate. Leave the adult talk to the rest of us.

[color37]

@gorfjorf2112112 maybe your uncle just sucks at fighting, maybe he needs to train harder and what do you do other than bitch as a martial art?

[gorfjorf2112112]

@color37 - You're gay.

[barcadre]

@gorfjorf2112112 Do your research? You should've done yours. First of all, Karate is Japanese (Okinawa), though it partially has its origins in quánfa (more colloquially know as Kung Fu). Wing Chun is a Kung Fu style, so old that nobody really knows how old it actually is. If anything, Karate came from Wing Chun, not the other way around. If you still can't put two and two together, Wikipedia actually has fairly correct information about both martial arts. You're welcome.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@barcadre - I don't know why you are defending Karate. Karate is not an effective way of protecting yourself. You should stick to Wing Chun.

[YoungCrs]

@gorfjorf2112112 lmao this guy....smh...smh

[Avario468]

@gorfjorf2112112 Karate came from kung fu genius

[0lykperry0]

@Avario468 no...... -.-

[hazzybear8]

@gorfjorf2112112 no style is better than an other its the practicioner, aside from that the martial arts is made for protecting yourself not going out and beating ppl to prove a point. anyone who fights for ego shouldnt be given the title of a martial artist.

[AtoneRhythm]

@gorfjorf2112112

Wing Chun was made by a woman. So no.You have false research.

[billybodybuilder]

@gorfjorf2112112 looks like bitch slapping anyway

[shishiromura]

@gorfjorf2112112

well even by all accounts Wing Tsun was created about 50-100 years before karate even in every different story of its creation. do your research if you are going to talk shit.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@shishiromura - I'm fucking with you guys! Haha. Wing Chunners are so sensitive! That's why I like fucking with you guys. I've done the same with Karate dudes..and they don't react anywhere NEAR as much as wing chunners. Now THERE's something you guys can learn from Karate practitioners. And I don't even care about martial arts.

[shishiromura]

@gorfjorf2112112

lol most of us are extremely prideful. runs in the art ;)

[videosdatreta]

@gorfjorf2112112 i know a guy who is a brown-belt of karate and he quit, he now practices Wing Chun. He says Wing Chun is more practical than the "long distance" Karate

[gorfjorf2112112]

@videosdatreta - I know a guy that did 7 years of wing chun...now he does ground fighting. Says it's more practical. Haha...sorry man...not trying to be a dick...I'm just fuckin with everyone. Every range is important. You can't just put emphasis on one range. Borders between martial art styles HAVE to disappear. Just like borders between countries.

[videosdatreta]

@gorfjorf2112112 but i agree. Martial Arts would be ONE only art. But i was saying that because i read the comment, and because of the what the guy i know said to me. I also personally believe that it should be teached as one art, ith everything. Maybe like Jeet Kune Do

[gandolphthegrey]

@gorfjorf2112112 Depends on the school compadre, training and the situation. Good training in Wing Chun is pretty necessary and if you run into it in the street it sucks to be on the receiving end. However a sucker punch, the element of surprise and good follow-up by a dedicated and ruthless opponent can always get the best of us. End of story is to be aware and know your own limits. However, I am sure Wing Chun was not the problem with your Uncle.

[OoMontageManoO]

@gorfjorf2112112 due wing chun was started by female monks a couple thousand years ago. it has nothing to do with karate, karate is completly different, i think its you you should do his research

[KIKITO1983]

@gorfjorf2112112 thats because ur uncle sucked ! is all about the abillity not the style. wing chun, karate, kung fu etc. is all about the persons abillity

[gorfjorf2112112]

@KIKITO1983 - So you're saying your uncle can beat up my uncle? Is that what you're saying??

[jeongyim]

@gorfjorf2112112 pity you my friend wingchun its not came from karate why cause it came from china so pls stop insulting wingchun that is your version we are not there when it happen to your uncle so stop ok

[gorfjorf2112112]

@jeongyim - Wing Chun came from Karate.

[piccolo3593]

@gorfjorf2112112

lol wing chun dosnt came from karate !

karate came from Kung fu

[TehOrkyMan]

@gorfjorf2112112 Wing Chun is a chinese style. Karate is japanese. Wing Chun is based around striking your opponent with numerous lighter puches, while Karate strikes with singular strong punches.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@TehOrkyMan - Wing chun comes from Karate.

[TehOrkyMan]

@gorfjorf2112112 I will happily believe you if you can give a more convincing argument than simply "It does". As far as I know, Wing Chun is a style developed about 400 years ago for the average person to defend themselves against larger opponents.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@TehOrkyMan _ Wing chun is Japanese and it means straight line.

[TehOrkyMan]

@gorfjorf2112112

ストレートライン is "Straight Line" in Japanese.

詠春拳 is "Wing Chun" in Japanese.

[baskyn544]

@gorfjorf2112112 lol wing chun has nothing from karate. It's a mix of different chinese MA in one create by Ng.

[mrkiky]

@gorfjorf2112112 if you're not a troll, then you are retarded and we should all feel sorry for you.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@mrkiky - Wing Chun came from Karate.

[mrkiky]

@gorfjorf2112112 yep, troll

[Aojutsu]

@gorfjorf2112112 "Well, seeing that the earliest forms of Martial Arts aka Kung Fu were introduced in China around 2698 BC, and Karate was not thought of until 1933" This is a direct quote from a reliable sourced website. If you do your research you will find that kung fu originated long before karate. Wing chun is a style of southern kung fu which was devised by a woman having issues with a warlord suiter. She beat him using kung fu based on the crane and snake. That is what Wing Chun is.

[jorgebeltran]

@gorfjorf2112112 Your uncle sucks then.

[gorfjorf2112112]

@jorgebeltran - He passed away last month. Don't worry...he won't be a topic anymore.

[jorgebeltran]

@jorgebeltran Sucked then, any art with 8 years of training even if it is the shittiest one will make you atleast better than an average fighter. Either his master was shit or his 8 years were a fucking waste because of him.

[derallter]

Lol, I was thinking of an ingame chat from CS when the vid started. XD

[whatsthematter1979]

this is really shitty 

[selinah3]

I see that your a student of sifu Augustine Fong a discipal of Ho Kam-Ming of Ip Man lineage cool!

[selinah3]

I see that your a student of sifu Augstine fong.

[cegwik]

awesome

[PARTYLIKEAP0PTART]

MUAY THAI CLINCH, KNEES TO THE FACE!!!!!

[angle3000]

Why isn't he attacking back? I thought wing chun is known for its simultaneous attack and deffence? Is this just a drill to help the guy on the right's reflexes?

[Dez13040287]

IP MAN!

[dbonanno]

Those "strikes" aren't very effective in a real fight, especially if your opponent is actually moving around and his feet aren't stuck in cement, lol.

[iTzMist]

@dbonanno i'd like to see you fight this guy

[krazymanrebirth]

awesome striking here, I suggest taking some classes by Jerry Poteet :)

[hgamer]

@krazymanrebirth he should take classes from me

[XBlackxSpacexVortexX]

@hgamer Your too arrogant..your have skill but your not the best, any good teacher should know this.

You should be more humble and less boastful..people will respect you more.

Peace & God Bless

[dirint]

@hgamer I take classes from your mom. :)

[TheChipendale]

its slowly that fatboy

[hulkout666]

You can tell this guy has really good flow and sensitivity. And for all the people who are always skeptical about Wing Chun, the problem is that most people don't understand it, even guys who practice and teach it. The idea is not to chase the hands and be obsessed with trapping. Trapping IS useful, but only to aid an attack. The idea is to attack the centerline and have constant forward energy. People who understand that do well with it. People who don't get the shit beaten out of them!

[jambi99]

Student have to learn how too close the gab and judge distance with is opponent.Thats the essence of fighting.I think thats where sparring needs to involved. However it seems thats its not in WC philosophy to do that way.For those who think that WC is just theories,you need to know that during Ip Man period,student had to go in the street and get in a fight to test there technics. I think with the post Ip man generation such thing did get passed so you can see this little lack in the system..

[chaosorcie]

this guy is really fa(s)t!

[HermesDo]

omg this guy is really fast,.....

[ichifitschie]

oh my god this guy is fat!

[hgamer]

damn nazi's

[oneSeabean]

@hgamer Nazis not nazi's, nazi's means that something belongs to someone called nazi but nazi with big N nazi with small n has no meaning. I remember that you were giving me English lessons you stupid fat monster

[DJChairbrush]

@hgamer WTF ? Calling someone fat doesnt make you a Nazi. Learn some history. -.-

[Youmakemefart]

oh my god this guy is fast

[clementchew]

omg love the shifting!

[EtonSmegma]

This looks very impressive. Are there any videos of Wing Chun being used in non-cooperative, non-rehearsed situations? Do you have any videos of action against opponents who are not doing Wing Chun?

[clementchew]

Nope, but I'm sure if you search around YouTube you'll get your answer. I work part-time as a football steward/security officer so I have seen my fair share of "violence" (Usually drunkards or chavs that hound by the tens and twenties).

Not too sure how I'd do against a trained fighter though. I haven't been doing wing tsun long enough for that.

[WingChum]

No, but I wish SOMEBODY did...

...it would be funny.

[triangletheorytrey]

I want to see someone really causing detrimental harm to ones body, using this style. I know it was a simple demonstration. cool

[grenpeter1]

Exactly, If you screw your eyes up a bit ,it looks like flipper fighting with a sea lion. The sound helps too!

[lol960]

you can easily tell this requires reflex... i find the one inch punch harder yet useful because when they're blocking just move ur fist towards them and one inhc punch and knock them bak, but ur reallly good

[JimmyNiggs]

that guy could kill u like 5 times over before u wer dead, insane shit

[optim99]

so fast

[Valkra1]

To all who said they had no footwork, it was obvious that there was not supposed to be footwork in this fight

Para todos los que dijeron que no tenía pies, es evidente que no se supone que de pies a esta lucha

[wannabeebee]

Instead of some of you guys rubbishing videos then why dont you post what you think is wrong and make a video showing what is right? Otherwise shut up!!

[mazdaplz]

alright little ni993r tell me how to do it then post a video because you seem to talk loads of shit on shotokan karate videos, and then dare people to upload something like you're not a ghost account. and STOP STALKING ME, STALKER; don't try to turn this onto me

[heartslord]

This sifu has excellent wing chun physics. Precise, all foward energy, no waste. What is shown here is as he says a demo of basic chisau technique. The footwork is not in play here. The student is not supposed to look great, just help illustrate the point. For those watching WC without training it, much escapes the eye. One concern is when the sifu punches under the bong. If the student dropped his elbow he would have trapped the sifu who btw is much more advanced than what this video shows.

[iancipperly]

This training is not made to work on foot work. However, this is poor CMA as there is clearly no full body movement. No real power. Pretty bad to be posting this stuff as an instructional.

[evilquencher]

Im wondering how you saw the video if your blind.

Really, no foot movement? Try focusing on his feet and watch the whole video again.

[Easilypleased23]

i agree after watching for a while i did notice how sloppy the white guy was and how easy of a target he was

[puppykendo]

Sifu Shamwank told me the most effective kung fu is ugly to look at.

[ghostfacekillah08]

omg he has no footwork at all. The white guy just let's him trap him up. This is such garbage. And to the untrained eye this might look good. Those who know will see so many bad habits. Guys like this r the reason y this art gets knocked by others so much. Sad...

[gdataggy]

I do Judo. love it, but really like the look of Wing Chun.

[MacBeste]

Oh man, so baaaaaaaaaaad.....his footwork is shit

[fileboy2002]

Doesn't seem to be much behind most of these blows.

[lasombragh]

Wing Chun techniques can be and are absolutely used on the ground and in grappling situations by skilled practitioners. The goal, of course, is to not end up on the ground in the first place because it isn't the style's forte, but someone that truly understands the fundamentals of sensitivity, the centerline, etc. can defend themselves just fine.

[beatusmongous]

When I was training in WC, one of the things I brought to the class was the fact that I had trained in wrestling for years before getting into WC. All of us in the class brought something from previous forms, which made for a nice class to practice with. But I do have to say that it is very difficult to grapple with good WC practitioners. I could take a couple of my classmates down, but it was much more difficult than the average person would expect.

[dfence1985]

Sports like boxing can have sparring, but martial arts cannot. When Wing chun was created, the world was very different. Today, it is impossible to train under "realist conditions". I think Wing chun is not similar to ju-jitsu. Japanese MA has different philosophies and wing chun doesn't fight in the floor.

[marcusorilius]

"Sports like boxing can have sparring, but martial arts cannot"

Of course you can spar in martial arts -- you just have to restrict some of the techniques. This does not diminish the value of sparring.

"and wing chun doesn't fight in the floor"

So what does an expert in WC do if the fight ends up on the ground?

[marcusorilius]

Where are the clips of Wing Chun being used in fights against other martial art styles? Or at least some sparring?

[tillerbear]

This sort of 'sparring' only really helps the student if both participants actually try and hit each other.

This is a problem within many Wing Chun lineages the ynever actually learn how to fight under real pressure.

[ahxpluhh]

not to put u down homeboy but u talk as if you really know how to fight. ur opinion doesnt matter these guys in real life would kill u im sure of that. if you want to put a smart comment against any martial arts video then make sure u are trained urself post a video.

[tillerbear]

Homeboy? Bruv as i matter of fact i actually do know how to fight.

[lmn604]

i'm sooo GRAD that THERE ARE MILLIONS of people into martal arts... so that it will never be lost.. hopefully...

[justtimber]

I do wing tsun. i just can say, that this is not good stuff. I have see other video's from this guy. sorry but i dont like it. search for Emin Boztepe or Victor guiteres or B.Wagner...

[BGH122]

I do wing chun so I speak for experience when I say what they are doing there IS NOT SPARRING. It is a reflex exercise built to drill the basics (very basics) of wing chun into the mind of a so called 'sparrer'. This is not wing chun in the fighting style, wing chun is very similar to Ju-jitsu in the true fighting style but cannot be practised as easily as quite a lot of the moves lead to very severe bodily harm/death for the victim.

[zebedysau]

crap

[gurojon]

I agree

[jlittle1978]

Hey, if you make a sparring video, make sure its against a non-wing chun fighter...that should clear up any doubts. I hate seeing 2 wing chun people from the same school flailing their hands at each other.

[marcusorilius]

Maybe against some grapplers and some distance strikers like Maui Tai or Kickboxing - please not against any TKD guys, as that would just be too easy! :P

[jlittle1978]

You know, I've eaten a lot of hooks while practicing wing chun. I've also countered them. Its all about the practitioner, not about the style. Rather than commenting on what can or can't be done, let the man's action speak for themselves.

[AKolchak]

You know you'd get knocked out by a left hook if someone actually wanted to hit you instead of just flailing their wrists?

[marcusorilius]

I know that this is just a demo, but do you have a video of this style fighting in a sparing environment, or at least with Wing Chun defending against a moving attacker while using other types of strikes? I would like to see more if you have it.

[hgamer]

its in the works..

[marcusorilius]

I look forward to this :) Please message me! Thanks

[jlittle1978]

Nice technique. Do you have any actual fighting sparring videos against other styles? Not chi sao or WC vs. WC. I don't like criticizing anyone's technique. I figure if you train hard enough, you can make anything work, and if it fails, you will be the first to know.

[hgamer]

these are sorta old videos, i do plan on making new ones that show sparring in it.

[bubishi2]

Hi, well im going to assume that the instructor on this video is you hgamer. First off, i'd like to say you are good at what you do, and thats all there is to it. But, is there really a reason or a point to make sarcastic comments or to humour the others because they have a different view? i believe they are just trying to help. We gotta remember..that Wing Chun is a family, no matter what line we come from..we all drink different water, but we must remember the source.

[hgamer]

Its all in good fun bubishi, and frankly the majority of these posters are arm chair martial artist, who've spent more time watching kung fu movies, and rarely any actual time training or doing any real martial arts.

[bubishi2]

btw, was on the windycity site, i saw a video of you and master fong playing sticky hands..amazing. you are a fast person alone..then came a point where you couldnt even move your hand..thats a scary thought.

[luisin1984]

i think it's okay to have your own vision of wing chun, but you should try to discuss rather than making fun of people.... btw .... look at yourself... if someone asks me, you don't train nor do wing chun with that weight.... but you probably watch kung fu movies... pick your words more carefuly.

[brokenmonkey14]

There are only so may ways the human body can move efficiently and effectively. The higher you get in any style the more similar you see they all become. The good styles anyway. I agree that learning an entire system is an excellent and efficient path to that common truth. However observing other styles and trying to understand how the variations have occurred (esp in Wing Chun since Yip Man) can only lead to benifits in your development. Ignorance causes stagnation.

[hgamer]

what fortune cookie did you copy this from... anyway, it sounds cool.. i suggest using the voice of mufassa from the lion king when reading it out loud, then you get the full dramatics

[brokenmonkey14]

you post so others can learn from it, but you're unwilling to learn from others? you might as well go back to the first movement in the first form because that's where you're mind is at. wouldn't want to exchange ideas now would we.

[hgamer]

spoken like a brue lee dork disciple. take something from everyone. well, if you mix a piece from everyone you encounter you'll end up with a huge pile of crap. either you believe in your system or you don't.

[scoobydo]

Ed, you have shown your true colors, and it ain't pretty. brokenmonkey14 did not say "take something from everyone", he said "you're unwilling to learn from others". You've completely mangled what he said. Your cup is full, and it's full of anger. It's totally uncalled for. Too bad really...... adios.

[hgamer]

let me guess, your in love with bruce lee too?

[moogman]

Thanks for the video. It's better than most. One minor criticism (or positive feedback, if you like). The guy on the left does a low strike at the end. If the guy on the right had "lut sao jik chung" (hand free, spring forward), he would have managed a punch to the face. It's only recently that I've started concentrating on this sort of thing, and now I realise why many people say "dont do low strikes".

[hgamer]

actually, that's not true most people don't know how to cover the line to do low attacks. When people see lop sau with a low attack, they forget the lop sau hand is still a controlling hand. I can use the same lop sau hand to use his arm to block any oncoming attacks, or i can even use the same hand to overtake any straight line attacks. i never do an attacks to sacrifice myself for an opening. I'm more then protected when i do a low lop sau

[scoobydo]

hgamer, If you're training to the lowest common denominator, then keep on going. Your lop sau hand is too low to counter. moogman's comments are right on the mark.

[hgamer]

let me make one thing clear regarding videos i post. i post it for those who want to learn from it, don't think this is me seeking to exchange ideas from what i do compared to what others do, coz i don't care what others do. And frankly, i would lop chop you low at will.

[scoobydo]

Sure Edward. Keep on dreaming. ;-)

[hgamer]

hahahahah

[natshu]

wow