My heart goes out to you, my grandson has Asperger's Syndrome and he is 2 yrs old. he just got diagnosed with it and allthough it is a milder form I have been getting therapy services for him since he was 8 months old, it started out with developmental delay syndrome, and he does the arm and hand flapping, and stiffens up, when he is excited, happy, sad, or bored, and has started putting the hand to his mouth, they call all this stimming, but the earlier the therapy the better the outcome!!
Our daughter Anya-Rose is diagnosed. She flaps and grimaces a lot. Shes almost 4 now and she can't say a single word which breaks my heart. I worry what the future may hold for her as she can't talk or understand. She has just started giving hugs and kisses though & smiles a lot. Her progress is so slow, but I'm happy for each thing she manages to master.
My son is 10 and he has autism also. He has flapped since he could walk. he did not talk til he was almost 5. He never shuts up now. and still flaps away and makes faces too.
My son did the same thing in the video, from 2yrs old and he does it now sometimes and hes 8yrs old. Hes soo smart and bright and funny. God bless your child. I know she has a bright future, and with patient and love she will go far.
To: Emo69Ome. I owe you a debt of gratitude. My 9 year old son has been behaving like a child with Asperger's since he was 2. He is also epileptic ( absent seizures) I am an ER Nurse so it's not like I'm in denial. He went to the Hospital for Sick Children for a year for school. He was assessed by 10 residents & they said he had most of the characteristics but not enough to meet the requirements. This gives me hope again & explains ALOT! Thanks for the info. There are so many disorders out t
Although my daughter is only 14 months she flaps her hands like that. She'll be playing and stop to flap her hands. She also says 2 "words" does not point or stack things. Does not nod or shake her head yes or no. is this indicative of autism or aspergers?
I find it funny that there were so many negative comments regarding Ava as a 2-year-old doing this, saying it's normal behavior and the disorder is being over diagnosed, yet now with the same behaviors at 4 - NO ONE is making those comments. I applaud you for noticing something 'different' with her at such a young age. I don't think we, as parents, are given enough credit for knowing what's normal and not normal with our children. It sickens me that we have to fight so hard for something we know
my son does the exact same thing. me n husband came across this video n he was in absolute shock,because until now he came to realize that this may b the same condition that our son has. Check out my video please Jlovin25, his hand flapping has became worse since then, excitability increases the hand flapping and facial gestures. thanks
My boyfriend's nephew's son has been flailing / flapping his arms since he was 3 months old. He is now 3yrs and 4mos old and still does the same thing but he sometimes also acts like he's on LSD or something because he swings his head in a Stevie Wonder movement when he's really excited. His grandma and I agree that there is a little autism in there but we don't want to insult the daddy. We don't know how to tactfully tell him to take him to a specialist.
unfortunately most people are simplistically linking arm-flapping with ASD. It is common in other children, both typically-developing and visually-impaired. It's often paired with facial grimacing and vocalization at the height of excitement. Our paper: "Stereotypic Movement Disorder: Easily Missed" in Developmental Medicine & Child Neurology (2010; 52: 733-738) shows you cannot diagnose ASD from the stereotypy alone. - Roger D. Freeman, M.D.
I have done this as long as I can remember and still do it on occasion without thinking about at but only at home.My parents did not make a big deal and I turned out OK. I have a beautiful family with 3 healthy sons and a great career in the medical profession. I think you are doing the right thing . It was hard for me to post this but I thought it may help you. She is beautiful.
Thanks for sharing. It amaze me how identical is that movement to my son´s flapping, even the facial expression!
My son had moderate to severe autisim when he was 2. He is doing very well now, but the flapping remains until now at 6 years old. We are very proud of him and I think you feel the same with your daughter.
Thankyou for your comment on talia's video.....how weird, that your daughters video where she is sticking the stickers was a video a watched a year ago and i thought the both did the exact same flapping and opening their mouths as they flapped
My dayghter has a very similar behaviour. Same hands movements, facial expression, and excess of energy. She is 8 now and still does it although some expressions have changed now. You link it to Asperger flapping but I found another possibility which fits more to her behaviour and personality. It's called Complex/Primary Motor Stereotypy. Apparently not all stereotypies are linked to the Autism disorder range. Maybe this can be helpful for you too. Can try googling:"motorstereotypy". Good luck!
I've never even heard of that disorder, nor have my physicians pointed me toward it. We see her doctor in a few weeks and will aggressively look into this. Wow! You learn something new every day. I can't thank you enough for your post!!
@emo69ome my son has similar hands flapping, not all the time, only when he is watching an open lift /elevator going up/down, or ppl climbing up the stairs or down
My daughter has had this exact facial expression and flapping when excited or proud. However she doesn't show other symptoms of autism/aspergers. She does pretend play, has lots of eye contact, has made some good friends, has no obsessive interest in one thing. I will also look into the complex/primary motor stereotypy. Thanks
I find it very interesting that people believe that I am making a big deal of this, or treating her differently, or somehow judging her. As a matter of fact, we don't do ANYTHING different with her. There is NOTHING we would change about our daughter. She sees no specialist, receives no medication. She's happy and so are we. I think the problem lies in ignorant people who assume just because a child labeled, the parent treats them differently. Don't assume, we all know who it makes an ass of
@sthepworth i thinks its rather important that she DOES see a proffesional, especially when shes between 10 and 12. it really would have helped me get along in later life if i had some help then, even though i thought i managed at the time.
@sthepworth Are agree and these people on here commenting are hypocrites because they are the ones judging, not you. Probably mothers and you no what statics show that 9 out of 10 mothers judge other parents constantly, to make there own parenting 'look better'.. They are insecure and need to feel better about themselfs and what they do as ''Moms''.......Anyways Your better of ignoring them!
Thanks for sharing this video with us, good luck cute girl.
BLACKPOLARBEAR2012 1 month ago
she is such a nice girl :)
anaisabellecgui 1 month ago
Beautifull little girl
misteeq64 1 month ago
Mercury poisoning.
neptunedarling 1 month ago
My heart goes out to you, my grandson has Asperger's Syndrome and he is 2 yrs old. he just got diagnosed with it and allthough it is a milder form I have been getting therapy services for him since he was 8 months old, it started out with developmental delay syndrome, and he does the arm and hand flapping, and stiffens up, when he is excited, happy, sad, or bored, and has started putting the hand to his mouth, they call all this stimming, but the earlier the therapy the better the outcome!!
crissysheartc 1 month ago
Our daughter Anya-Rose is diagnosed. She flaps and grimaces a lot. Shes almost 4 now and she can't say a single word which breaks my heart. I worry what the future may hold for her as she can't talk or understand. She has just started giving hugs and kisses though & smiles a lot. Her progress is so slow, but I'm happy for each thing she manages to master.
andreauk 3 months ago
My son looks exactly the same when he its doing his flapping! They are amazing
cg120587 5 months ago
My son is 10 and he has autism also. He has flapped since he could walk. he did not talk til he was almost 5. He never shuts up now. and still flaps away and makes faces too.
jamesandaudrey 6 months ago
My son did the same thing in the video, from 2yrs old and he does it now sometimes and hes 8yrs old. Hes soo smart and bright and funny. God bless your child. I know she has a bright future, and with patient and love she will go far.
madlopez22 6 months ago
To: Emo69Ome. I owe you a debt of gratitude. My 9 year old son has been behaving like a child with Asperger's since he was 2. He is also epileptic ( absent seizures) I am an ER Nurse so it's not like I'm in denial. He went to the Hospital for Sick Children for a year for school. He was assessed by 10 residents & they said he had most of the characteristics but not enough to meet the requirements. This gives me hope again & explains ALOT! Thanks for the info. There are so many disorders out t
polka175 8 months ago
Although my daughter is only 14 months she flaps her hands like that. She'll be playing and stop to flap her hands. She also says 2 "words" does not point or stack things. Does not nod or shake her head yes or no. is this indicative of autism or aspergers?
jcherise1 8 months ago
I find it funny that there were so many negative comments regarding Ava as a 2-year-old doing this, saying it's normal behavior and the disorder is being over diagnosed, yet now with the same behaviors at 4 - NO ONE is making those comments. I applaud you for noticing something 'different' with her at such a young age. I don't think we, as parents, are given enough credit for knowing what's normal and not normal with our children. It sickens me that we have to fight so hard for something we know
cullomclan 9 months ago 2
look at the minimata disaster video where mercury was leaked into the minimata bay in japan. victims flapped their arms.
neptunedarling 11 months ago
my son does the exact same thing. me n husband came across this video n he was in absolute shock,because until now he came to realize that this may b the same condition that our son has. Check out my video please Jlovin25, his hand flapping has became worse since then, excitability increases the hand flapping and facial gestures. thanks
Jlovin25 11 months ago
My boyfriend's nephew's son has been flailing / flapping his arms since he was 3 months old. He is now 3yrs and 4mos old and still does the same thing but he sometimes also acts like he's on LSD or something because he swings his head in a Stevie Wonder movement when he's really excited. His grandma and I agree that there is a little autism in there but we don't want to insult the daddy. We don't know how to tactfully tell him to take him to a specialist.
52kdavis 11 months ago
unfortunately most people are simplistically linking arm-flapping with ASD. It is common in other children, both typically-developing and visually-impaired. It's often paired with facial grimacing and vocalization at the height of excitement. Our paper: "Stereotypic Movement Disorder: Easily Missed" in Developmental Medicine & Child Neurology (2010; 52: 733-738) shows you cannot diagnose ASD from the stereotypy alone. - Roger D. Freeman, M.D.
rogerfreeman1 11 months ago
I have done this as long as I can remember and still do it on occasion without thinking about at but only at home.My parents did not make a big deal and I turned out OK. I have a beautiful family with 3 healthy sons and a great career in the medical profession. I think you are doing the right thing . It was hard for me to post this but I thought it may help you. She is beautiful.
333ANGELLOVE 11 months ago
I used to do exactly the same when I was little.
Is this something that just Asperger's do?
anacream 1 year ago
My son Daniel, 5 y old, Asperger and arms flapping too!
claudiolemos100 1 year ago
i do that particular when i get exsited, have Aspergres and am 16
campevergreen777 1 year ago
She's really adorable. Can I ask when she first started to do this behaviour?
papercandles 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing. It amaze me how identical is that movement to my son´s flapping, even the facial expression!
My son had moderate to severe autisim when he was 2. He is doing very well now, but the flapping remains until now at 6 years old. We are very proud of him and I think you feel the same with your daughter.
Morazul19 1 year ago
Thankyou for your comment on talia's video.....how weird, that your daughters video where she is sticking the stickers was a video a watched a year ago and i thought the both did the exact same flapping and opening their mouths as they flapped
kirsty2012 1 year ago
My dayghter has a very similar behaviour. Same hands movements, facial expression, and excess of energy. She is 8 now and still does it although some expressions have changed now. You link it to Asperger flapping but I found another possibility which fits more to her behaviour and personality. It's called Complex/Primary Motor Stereotypy. Apparently not all stereotypies are linked to the Autism disorder range. Maybe this can be helpful for you too. Can try googling:"motorstereotypy". Good luck!
emo69ome 1 year ago 2
I've never even heard of that disorder, nor have my physicians pointed me toward it. We see her doctor in a few weeks and will aggressively look into this. Wow! You learn something new every day. I can't thank you enough for your post!!
sthepworth 1 year ago
@sthepworth
Hope this will be helpful for you when you see the doctor next time.
I uploaded a very short video of my daughter with a thorough description with it.
The youtube codeis: /watch?v=_Fy3-yHwJqk
I have more recent videos of her, but she would not like me to put it on the web.
emo69ome 1 year ago
@emo69ome my son has similar hands flapping, not all the time, only when he is watching an open lift /elevator going up/down, or ppl climbing up the stairs or down
venkyr60 1 year ago
My daughter has had this exact facial expression and flapping when excited or proud. However she doesn't show other symptoms of autism/aspergers. She does pretend play, has lots of eye contact, has made some good friends, has no obsessive interest in one thing. I will also look into the complex/primary motor stereotypy. Thanks
Combrans 2 months ago
my boy (5) does exactly the same face expression when he is flapping his hands.. sometimes i think it hurts him =(
letto2103 1 year ago
@letto2103 why?? Stimming doesn't hurt, it is soothing and relaxing--that is why we do it! *Most* of us are not masochists! ;)
littlelily613 10 months ago
Just don't make a big deal about it. we all need our stims, and everyone who judges them are the ones that need to change.
AnElephantThatPaints 1 year ago 5
I find it very interesting that people believe that I am making a big deal of this, or treating her differently, or somehow judging her. As a matter of fact, we don't do ANYTHING different with her. There is NOTHING we would change about our daughter. She sees no specialist, receives no medication. She's happy and so are we. I think the problem lies in ignorant people who assume just because a child labeled, the parent treats them differently. Don't assume, we all know who it makes an ass of
sthepworth 1 year ago 11
@sthepworth i thinks its rather important that she DOES see a proffesional, especially when shes between 10 and 12. it really would have helped me get along in later life if i had some help then, even though i thought i managed at the time.
gamiezion 9 months ago
@sthepworth Are agree and these people on here commenting are hypocrites because they are the ones judging, not you. Probably mothers and you no what statics show that 9 out of 10 mothers judge other parents constantly, to make there own parenting 'look better'.. They are insecure and need to feel better about themselfs and what they do as ''Moms''.......Anyways Your better of ignoring them!
UtubeDuDeDuh 6 months ago