as an A- player on iCCup, id say the game is very balanced, more so than starcraft 2, definitely. the problem is your occasional map hackers, but hose are thankfully not a problem in public tournies :3
I get the impression that the announcers from SC1 games want to see flash lose. Like their rooting for his opponent all the time. Anyone else find this.
@theeverlastingdark Flash just trusts his instinct. Cheating? Can't believe your would accuse such a high player of cheating, and he would probably be caught if he was.
So freaking AMAZING, this game is 10+ years old, but we can still see some refreshing and interesting tactics being utilised.
I like SC2, but it's sad that a lot of new-age gamers won't appreciate the beauty of SC:BW just because "it's old, has bad graphics and is outdated"..
Dang! Aside from fact that they're playing in SHANGHAI, that's a HUGE crowd! How many spectators are over there? Upwards of a thousand or more or something?
Holy shit I was just in Shanghai in July (fuck, should've stayed there for another two months). Anyways, it's pretty exciting to see an OSL Finals in Shanghai, especially since the Expo is still going on.
It's still fun to watch good old SC1 despite the sequel already being out, because incredibly skilled pro players with greatly matured strategies keep this game interesting.
instead of unburrowing them right when the marines were on top of them, he should have waited until all his forces moved out and then use the zerglings to own his base
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@Atom15 not even close. original C&C, WC1, WC2 - all far more balanced.
the claim that BW is balanced is essentially necessary to make to view the game as a serious e-sport. and people do make it, but the reality is that data does not back it up. zerg and terran are close (and maps usually decide it), but protoss is far underpowered.
that said, the imbalance is not nearly as blatant as in SC2, so player skill can overpower it.
@ColonelVolkov Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2 achieve some "balance" because everyone is playing mostly identical units against each other. Over the years, however, it's been mostly agreed that Warcraft 2's Orcs are more powerful due to their spells.
I cannot emphasize enough how wrong this is.. Starcraft fans who have been around since the beginning would agree that all races have their strengths and weaknesses, so there are zerg FAVORED maps, protoss FAVORED maps, and terran FAVORED maps. If you think that the map pool is always and has always been perfectly balanced, then you are simply wrong. And starcraft is balanced only as far as the map pool is balanced.
@enjolraslechimiste not being good at the game does not necessarily mean you cannot analyze it. following a similar argument, art criticism, literary criticism, or sports analysis simply would not exist - most of the people that pursue these professions are not, and never were, artists, writers or serious athletes. again, analysis and understanding is not the same thing as skill at the game.
@enjolraslechimiste Stupid people shouldn't run their mouths off about things they do not understand...in this case, a joke ;] And everyone with a half decent understanding of humor would agree that my comment was of humorous nature :>
@enjolraslechimiste Balanced in what way, though? Balanced in the sense that each race stands a chance and no race is completely dominant? I agree. Balanced in the sense that all units and structures are viable? No, I don't think so.
Will watch enen though I watched on Nuke's channel already. You guys are the best and deserve more exposure but enough about that GO FLASH FIGHTING!!!
Thanks for covering this.I already saw the NukeTheStars version and i must say the match is awesome. Going to watch it again because I enjoy Moletrap's commentaries a lot.
i know how to make simple games but not world
thunderxlight11111 3 weeks ago
can anybody tell me where i can find book for game programming in flash to make game like final fantasy ??
thunderxlight11111 3 weeks ago
map is like eye of the storm :P
kabeza17mza 1 month ago
Terran > Jaedong > Flash
TabascoOE 2 months ago
as an A- player on iCCup, id say the game is very balanced, more so than starcraft 2, definitely. the problem is your occasional map hackers, but hose are thankfully not a problem in public tournies :3
guitarpianobanana 2 months ago
When 2 eaqually skilled players play TvZ, Terran will win every time.
Conclusion: unbalance
toleshaOG 3 months ago in playlist Više videozapisa korisnika VioleTAK
why do they still play on CRT?WTF 2011?
MrMatracki 3 months ago
when was this cause the monitors look quite old
XianisRoxify 1 year ago
Girl at 5:19 is v cute.. =p
Gackt247 1 year ago 3
moletrap>husky!!!
iamonfire888 1 year ago 7
whoa wait thats not in Korea...ive been there, thats in China....
TheTimsta92 1 year ago
I get the impression that the announcers from SC1 games want to see flash lose. Like their rooting for his opponent all the time. Anyone else find this.
mholden02 1 year ago
IT'S A DOUBLE BURROW
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
it seems like flash has map hacks or something
higuy1213 1 year ago
I can't help but get the feeling that Flash is somehow cheating in these games. He's been beating Jaedong way too easily in both the OSL and the MSL.
theeverlastingdark 1 year ago
@theeverlastingdark Flash just trusts his instinct. Cheating? Can't believe your would accuse such a high player of cheating, and he would probably be caught if he was.
Ghost1170 1 year ago
So freaking AMAZING, this game is 10+ years old, but we can still see some refreshing and interesting tactics being utilised.
I like SC2, but it's sad that a lot of new-age gamers won't appreciate the beauty of SC:BW just because "it's old, has bad graphics and is outdated"..
ModeLTU 1 year ago
Trippel commentary AWESOMENESSSSSSSSS (And yes I did spell tripple "trippel" on purpose)
ModeLTU 1 year ago
I'm sorry but I only like moletrap and diggity. Ranshin(spelling?) just doesn't do it for me.
Owompa 1 year ago
fail attempt to be epic jaedong
133a7x 1 year ago
@hasuu 2-400
sklyrovka 1 year ago
whose the third commentator?? i noe the other 2 is Moletrap and Diggity.
artty132 1 year ago
@artty132 Ranshin?
devestek 1 year ago
@artty132 the other one is ranshin, the one who commentates all the MSL games. :P
mage36 1 year ago
good plaguing and stuff at the end, would like to see that more often
Wogrim 1 year ago
After watching a lot of sc2 vids, the dull colors of sc1 make it harder to be interested in the game :(
aztecsword12 1 year ago
@aztecsword12 just take solice in the better players atm
im sure SC2 will catch up soon enough, but atm the sc1 players, especially
in korea dominate =)
Mahon3yMonst3r 1 year ago
@aztecsword12 better dull colors than the dull sc2 games
SuperiorBeen 1 year ago 4
where is cholera!! :"(
muffunman 1 year ago
flash is a lucker.
seen that defiler die? it would have changed the game
frydooo 1 year ago
watched this after nuke's commentary. and wow, this really sucks compared to it
Diosukekun 1 year ago
when diggity says terran and zerb the transcription is "Iran and Syria football players
minerasasd 1 year ago
Awesome annotation at the beginning... 3..2..."Wait, you think you can predic--" video starts.
DArtagnonW 1 year ago
Dang! Aside from fact that they're playing in SHANGHAI, that's a HUGE crowd! How many spectators are over there? Upwards of a thousand or more or something?
mahouneko 1 year ago
@mahouneko more then that mate
TheAcesniper 1 year ago
Mizzle Trizzle in the Hizzle
Welcome back to the Hizouse
sachin122333 1 year ago 2
@sachin122333 i agree with your awesome-ness
rbrtchng 1 year ago
TRIPLE? wow.
LunarFaith 1 year ago
lol!! it said eye of the typhoon 8:40. not eye of the storm
KTFlaSh96 1 year ago
if my trip to china was only a month later!!!
KTFlaSh96 1 year ago
Flash will win.
mariwana18 1 year ago
@mariwana18 He only loses to cheese or Hyuuk. ;-D
angelmarauder 1 year ago
Oh god YESSSSS.
SCWarkos 1 year ago
I find Flash to be the most boring player(turtleturtleturtlemacromacro) but Jaedong always forces him to be way more interesting. Good stuff.
Darkforce222 1 year ago
interrupt!
SC2tide 1 year ago
burrow is fucking pro
DesN00b 1 year ago
lol, all the guys who flamed at Maurosso are hilarious!
Th3Sh1n1gam1 1 year ago
ouch at 15:15 , his defiler pop and then ling blocked it so it went left into mm and died, sad, it was perfect instant block literally
UpTballA 1 year ago
woohoooooo :D
thanks for commentating you guys rock, BROOD WAR FOR LIFE!!!
funnybananaman94 1 year ago
EPIC. its everyone I subscribed to about SC1
AzureSky317 1 year ago
5:19 is probably the prettiest south korean girl i have ever seen
btnheazy03 1 year ago
@btnheazy03
You're the type to fall in love too easily, bitch.
imassbbfan 1 year ago
@imassbbfan i know beauty when i see it. you're not gay, are you?
btnheazy03 1 year ago
@btnheazy03
That is only because every other South Korean girl you've ever seen immediately hides her face.
Kesshisan 1 year ago
@Kesshisan haha thats true
btnheazy03 1 year ago
Okay the "3...2..." thing was pretty cool
warbandit89 1 year ago
he shoulda used banelings
btnheazy03 1 year ago
SC1 was perfected for over 10 years. It's gonna take quite a long time for SC2 to catch up.
currytub 1 year ago 3
Wow, this video is so smooth/high fps compared to other videos. Changed the rendering or something?
rillel89 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you kinda miss Sc BW! But still love Sc2!
andershenr 1 year ago
@andershenr u just fail with that noob comment fukin noob
mauriicio89 1 year ago
Holy shit I was just in Shanghai in July (fuck, should've stayed there for another two months). Anyways, it's pretty exciting to see an OSL Finals in Shanghai, especially since the Expo is still going on.
p111SC 1 year ago
It's still fun to watch good old SC1 despite the sequel already being out, because incredibly skilled pro players with greatly matured strategies keep this game interesting.
gigaslave 1 year ago 2
I love how Asian people go mass watching those pro -games xD
chronikoflife 1 year ago
instead of unburrowing them right when the marines were on top of them, he should have waited until all his forces moved out and then use the zerglings to own his base
lalahenx 1 year ago
Wow well timed (moletrap). I finished reading 3...2... (1)... then it resumed.
How did you know how fast i read?
MOrningOrbit 1 year ago
jaedong needed blings/infestors
SpriteBox 1 year ago
OP terran is OP
swiftknife5005 1 year ago
@swiftknife5005
Perhaps you never learned that novices at a game should not pass judgment on things they don't understand.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago
yeah...same as in starcraf2...terran imba ;]
Maurosso 1 year ago
@Maurosso
Beginners shouldn't run their mouths off about things they do not understand. All serious SC players would agree that SC1 is balanced.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago 33
@enjolraslechimiste so true
sc2gg4ever 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste Yeah its the most balanced Game ever made so far:D
Atom15 1 year ago 2
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@Atom15 not even close. original C&C, WC1, WC2 - all far more balanced.
the claim that BW is balanced is essentially necessary to make to view the game as a serious e-sport. and people do make it, but the reality is that data does not back it up. zerg and terran are close (and maps usually decide it), but protoss is far underpowered.
that said, the imbalance is not nearly as blatant as in SC2, so player skill can overpower it.
ColonelVolkov 1 year ago
@ColonelVolkov Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2 achieve some "balance" because everyone is playing mostly identical units against each other. Over the years, however, it's been mostly agreed that Warcraft 2's Orcs are more powerful due to their spells.
PFworth 1 year ago 4
lol, youre a joke
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste
I cannot emphasize enough how wrong this is.. Starcraft fans who have been around since the beginning would agree that all races have their strengths and weaknesses, so there are zerg FAVORED maps, protoss FAVORED maps, and terran FAVORED maps. If you think that the map pool is always and has always been perfectly balanced, then you are simply wrong. And starcraft is balanced only as far as the map pool is balanced.
ESportsEnthusiast 1 year ago 2
@ESportsEnthusiast
You might want to read comments before running off your mouth, for that matter.
I didn't say all maps were equal. Obviously maps can favor one race. So congratulations on talking to yourself about a conversation no one was having.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago
lol
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste not being good at the game does not necessarily mean you cannot analyze it. following a similar argument, art criticism, literary criticism, or sports analysis simply would not exist - most of the people that pursue these professions are not, and never were, artists, writers or serious athletes. again, analysis and understanding is not the same thing as skill at the game.
ColonelVolkov 1 year ago
@ColonelVolkov
Beginner does not mean of skill level, but beginner to the community.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste Stupid people shouldn't run their mouths off about things they do not understand...in this case, a joke ;] And everyone with a half decent understanding of humor would agree that my comment was of humorous nature :>
Maurosso 1 year ago
@Maurosso
Of course it was. Keep telling yourself that.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste
There was that controversy about HTs being too vulnerable and scarabs dudding too much.
But for the most part it's pretty balanced.
themidnightjudge1 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste and what are you a pro? Go suck a dick fuckin moron!
KopaleKopale 1 year ago
@KopaleKopale
Wow, what a well-posed argument. I feel terrorized into submission by vulgarity.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago
lol what
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
@enjolraslechimiste Balanced in what way, though? Balanced in the sense that each race stands a chance and no race is completely dominant? I agree. Balanced in the sense that all units and structures are viable? No, I don't think so.
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@SolidSnakeRules
No one said that all units are viable. Each race has a worthless unit. What's important is the overall net interactive picture.
enjolraslechimiste 1 year ago 2
@enjolraslechimiste balanced, but zvz is fucked.
gabe228 10 months ago
@Maurosso
no, Flash is imbalanced
Retgery 1 year ago 27
epic epic epic !!! need moar !
MrFixate 1 year ago
Eye of a Typhoon is quiet the epic name for this Jaedong V Flash match-up.
Rawnesss 1 year ago
can't stand the "other" commentators if you know what I mean.
ddstar 1 year ago
Will watch enen though I watched on Nuke's channel already. You guys are the best and deserve more exposure but enough about that GO FLASH FIGHTING!!!
vixaroth 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid. :) Good to see more than a solo commentary nowadays!
ChAoS9779 1 year ago
Thanks guys :)
FallenEncore 1 year ago
Thanks for covering this.I already saw the NukeTheStars version and i must say the match is awesome. Going to watch it again because I enjoy Moletrap's commentaries a lot.
HoryWan 1 year ago 4