Considering the person who write that speech for Patrick later went to work for Obama, I'm not sure how anyone can claim that there was any bad faith here.
Were the words apt for the moment? Yes! Inspiring ideas & speeches self-replicate. If attacked on the basis of the same claims, intellectuals have a tendency to resort to using a similar set of words & phrases; it is common with academics & great minds. Nobody could be accused for plagiarizing a dictionary——phrases like——Get real——Whatever! Minds of the same intellectual girth are stimulated to the same reflexes. Now, these are not just words! These are facts! They're mine, but not original! BO8
noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
Thank God someone looked it up. UNAUTHORIZED. Does anyone really think Obama is that stupid?
MLK and JFK had a similar message, about a brighter future (belief in change). No one said they were copying each other.. so why now.. when two people (deval and obama) who are good friends, with a similar message and belief, its plagarism
Just words. Really? Thats all he 'stole'. Two freaking words and a small series of quotes in a similar order. Thats not plagiarism and no court in America would find him guilty of it. What will his opponents uncover next? That he ripped off the Lords Prayer during a Sunday service and then they'll uncover the demonic truth behind his quoting the National Anthem at a sporting event. Seriously? Just Words? How else is someone going to respond to, "Your speeches are just words"?
Ah yes, the foul language of the glassy eyed, kool-aid drinking Obama-ite. Actually qworg made a valid point. If you were to do a little less cussing and a little more research you'd figure out that not only did Obama borrow the "Just Words" speech from Deval Patrick, but Patricks whole phony campaign template. click on my page and watch the videos to have a better understanding of the Deval Patrick/Obama connection...it ain't pretty
Americanpolitiks. you are a nut. He is quoting . I'm sure Mr. Patrick is o.k. with it. I hope you paid attention to the neo-con talking points the were repeated in unison by the clapping seals for the last decade or so.
You can't spin something so nothing into something.
Point: Obama never said "Deval said this." Unfortunately Barackie didn't even change the sequence of words. That's careless. And I'm sure Mr. Patrick is o.k. with it. Afterall Barack did him a favor in the Roland Arnall deal. If I'm a "nut" for sticking up for the millions of Americans hurt by the very predatory lender that Barack passed as an Ambassador, and then talks about his "work" against predatory lending, I'll be that nut.
You are a fucking asshole for posting this. Not only has Clinton entered a 4th and long situation, but these frantic last ditch efforts make her look like the bitch she is. She has no dignity, no morals and is obviously willingly to do whatever it takes to get into power. The last two weeks have been some of the worst politics I have ever seen, and Obama not only is doing fine, he has won 10 str8 nomination contests.. bye bye you fucking dyke!!
you are SO out of line. this kind of language should be banned. hunterscion7 is everything he accuses the poster of being. i support obama, but it's clear he stole the speech from patrick. rather than name-calling, why don't you admit the faults and weaknesses in the person you support. he's going to need some shoring up in the general election if he makes it that far. your name-calling does nothing to serve anyone's cause. you should look inside a little tosee how stupid you appear to be.
Fuck you qworg, what in the fuck makes you think you have the right of even just opinion over what words other people use? I bet if I saw your face I wouldn't like it, so maybe we should ban that... Oh, that's right; this sort of bullshit only works for the popular fascists. Go suck a fat cock.
98 percent of you need to show more dignity and maturity. Comments like this make me want to jump ship and join another party. Please, people, act like the political change you want to see in the country. It's not all about slamming each other; it's about how people respect each other, how you respond to people who may not agree with you. If you can't walk the talk, please take a hike.
If he values independent thinking, why is his the most predictable liberal vote in the Senate? A People for the American Way computer program would cast the same votes for cheaper.The Gang of 14 created bipartisan unity on judges, but Obama sat it out. Kennedy and McCain created a bipartisan deal on immigration. Obama opted out of the parts that displeased the unions. Sixty-eight senators supported a bipartisan deal on FISA. Obama voted no.
Hill sat it out, as well. Also, his "most liberal 'voting' record" thing, is flat wrong. His life time rating is 85%, and as of the previous cycle (2006) he was at 84%. That ranks at like 14th. The fact that Obama missed a lot of votes is why he ranks where he does: They have few voting samples, all of minute content, and that's what they rated.
Also, The National Journal is a biased organization (see:2000 McCain; see: Kerry, 2004, where the same thing happened and Kerry only cast a few votes).
Obama says he is practicing a new kind of politics, but why has his PAC sloshed $698,000 to the campaigns of the superdelegates, according to the Center for Responsive Politics? Is giving Robert Byrd's campaign $10,000 the kind of change we can believe in?
Barack Obama vowed to abide by the public finance campaign-spending rules in the general election if his opponent did. But now he's waffling on his promise. Why does he need to check with his campaign staff members when deciding whether to keep his word?
The part of the answer both Hillary and McCAin left out was "combined with free television and radio time to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests". McCain has agreed to nothing, that was another stipulation.
everyone who thinks obama plagiarized is fucking retarted.....is GooshieCenterMeOnSam the only one with a brain? deval encouraged him to use that part of his speech! hillary is a hypocrite everyone knwos she will do or say anything to win...... obama on the other hand wont, he didnt bitch when she used his slogans
then he should have acknowledged it. it's called a foot note. and spare us the foul language, and learn to spell (retarted - is that like becoming a tart again?).
The country is getting ready to elect another president based on emotions rather than reasons. A shame really when there are other, qualified candidates like Clinton and even McCain. Enough of the worshipping of this guy. He is NOT all that. People, GET REAL!
I'm trying to decide which is more pathetic: Hillary's campaign having to stoop to making a huge deal over Obama using phrases a friend of his SUGGESTED HE USE or her campaign posting fake comments about this video like "This worries me. It makes me wonder how much of his inspirational speeches were actually his own." Memo to the Clinton campaign: if I wanted petty dirty campaigning, I'd be voting Republican. Find something more important to talk about and maybe more people would listen.
Deval gave Obama permission to use part of his speech. It's not plagiarism if you have permission. Otherwise every time Bill and Hillary give speeches that were written by their speechwriters they would be committing plagiarism. You may want to understand what plagiarism is before you accuse people of committing it.
It doesnt matter. The fact is he passed off someone's work as his own. Its plagiarism, its cheating.
Try submitting your best friend's essay in school... its still cheating even if your friend gives you permission. Thta's why your mommy cant write your essays for you.
You cant pass off someone's work as your own. period.
It's amazing what people's pre-conceived opinions make them believe/say. It just makes you look like an idiot. From the dictionary (note the word "unauthorized"):
pla·gia·rism
noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
I know you have a brain so stop pretending you don't.
Just words. Really? Thats all he 'stole'. Two freaking words and a small series of quotes in a similar order. Thats not plagiarism and no court in America would find him guilty of it. What will his opponents uncover next? That he ripped off the Lords Prayer during a Sunday service and then they'll uncover the demonic truth behind his quoting the National Anthem at a sporting event. Seriously? Just Words? How else is someone going to respond to, "Your speeches are just words"?
This worries me. It makes me wonder how much of his inspirational speeches were actually his own. I think she had every right to point this out, just as Obama would if the roles were reversed.
It's HILLARIOUS (Clinton supporters probably aren't intelligent enough to get that pun) how desperate these Clinton supporters are getting. :o) Keep digging your own hole, people... say how long has it been since Hillary hasn't been BLOWN OUT of a primary election???
There's something powerful here. One candidate says that more than words will be needed to improve America. The other candidate responds by "borrowing" a friend's words.
We are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa. Hillary Plagiarizing Obama.
In true Obama fashion, he proves he's nothing but a mouth piece.
tightlypackedcoil 3 years ago
mccain 08 mccain 08 please lmao
ilikecoffeemilkalot 3 years ago
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I hope you die
st69fuck 3 years ago
Considering the person who write that speech for Patrick later went to work for Obama, I'm not sure how anyone can claim that there was any bad faith here.
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Were the words apt for the moment? Yes! Inspiring ideas & speeches self-replicate. If attacked on the basis of the same claims, intellectuals have a tendency to resort to using a similar set of words & phrases; it is common with academics & great minds. Nobody could be accused for plagiarizing a dictionary——phrases like——Get real——Whatever! Minds of the same intellectual girth are stimulated to the same reflexes. Now, these are not just words! These are facts! They're mine, but not original! BO8
grazzellian 3 years ago
Wow, I am speechless.
HaoSci 3 years ago 6
It's sad that so many Americans do not think for themselves! The line was given to Sen. Obama by Gov. Deval himself.
313butter 3 years ago
"It's sad that so many Americans do not think for themselves!"
Like Obama?
jduboo2d 3 years ago
THANK YOU 313BUTTER!!!
bluesmanvi 2 years ago
It's sad that so many Americans do not think for themselves! The line was given to Sen. Obama by Gov. Deval himself.
313butter 3 years ago
he's quoting mlk, saying its JUst words if you dont act
Mushroom1871986 3 years ago
pla·gia·rism
noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
Thank God someone looked it up. UNAUTHORIZED. Does anyone really think Obama is that stupid?
Obama/Hopefully Sane VP '08
mrbandicoot8 3 years ago
Barack Hussein Obama/Jimmy Carter '08!!!!
packrat76 3 years ago
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AMERICANS ARE BEING MESMERIZED WITH THE SAME,
SAME, SAME copied LINES AND JOKES ! OVER, OVER AND OVER!
OBAMA IS A GREAT ACTOR PLAYING THE PART !
I have memorized his speech and I know, in advance, WHAT Obama will say NEXT !
ARE WE THAT STUPID ??? !!!! HE HAS BEEN
A SENATOR FOR LESS THAN 3 YEARS !
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loismarill 3 years ago
I think I'm going to faint !!!!
Obamas favorite words in illinois voting was to say PRESENT when voting ! Just what we need a leader who can't make decisions !!!
saynerken 3 years ago
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Obama is the Antichrist.
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MLK and JFK had a similar message, about a brighter future (belief in change). No one said they were copying each other.. so why now.. when two people (deval and obama) who are good friends, with a similar message and belief, its plagarism
malaaq50 3 years ago
Watch Hillary do the exact same thing, after criticizing Barack for it.
watch?v=PN-a7ihIHS0
themightylex 3 years ago
Just words. Really? Thats all he 'stole'. Two freaking words and a small series of quotes in a similar order. Thats not plagiarism and no court in America would find him guilty of it. What will his opponents uncover next? That he ripped off the Lords Prayer during a Sunday service and then they'll uncover the demonic truth behind his quoting the National Anthem at a sporting event. Seriously? Just Words? How else is someone going to respond to, "Your speeches are just words"?
thyroid75 3 years ago
Ah yes, the foul language of the glassy eyed, kool-aid drinking Obama-ite. Actually qworg made a valid point. If you were to do a little less cussing and a little more research you'd figure out that not only did Obama borrow the "Just Words" speech from Deval Patrick, but Patricks whole phony campaign template. click on my page and watch the videos to have a better understanding of the Deval Patrick/Obama connection...it ain't pretty
Americanpolitiks 3 years ago
Americanpolitiks. you are a nut. He is quoting . I'm sure Mr. Patrick is o.k. with it. I hope you paid attention to the neo-con talking points the were repeated in unison by the clapping seals for the last decade or so.
You can't spin something so nothing into something.
I did click on your page. You are a joke.
luxou812 3 years ago
Point: Obama never said "Deval said this." Unfortunately Barackie didn't even change the sequence of words. That's careless. And I'm sure Mr. Patrick is o.k. with it. Afterall Barack did him a favor in the Roland Arnall deal. If I'm a "nut" for sticking up for the millions of Americans hurt by the very predatory lender that Barack passed as an Ambassador, and then talks about his "work" against predatory lending, I'll be that nut.
By the way, Thanks for your comment.
Americanpolitiks 3 years ago
You are a fucking asshole for posting this. Not only has Clinton entered a 4th and long situation, but these frantic last ditch efforts make her look like the bitch she is. She has no dignity, no morals and is obviously willingly to do whatever it takes to get into power. The last two weeks have been some of the worst politics I have ever seen, and Obama not only is doing fine, he has won 10 str8 nomination contests.. bye bye you fucking dyke!!
hunterscion7 3 years ago
you are SO out of line. this kind of language should be banned. hunterscion7 is everything he accuses the poster of being. i support obama, but it's clear he stole the speech from patrick. rather than name-calling, why don't you admit the faults and weaknesses in the person you support. he's going to need some shoring up in the general election if he makes it that far. your name-calling does nothing to serve anyone's cause. you should look inside a little tosee how stupid you appear to be.
qworq 3 years ago
Fuck you qworg, what in the fuck makes you think you have the right of even just opinion over what words other people use? I bet if I saw your face I wouldn't like it, so maybe we should ban that... Oh, that's right; this sort of bullshit only works for the popular fascists. Go suck a fat cock.
M1thotyn 3 years ago
how will i ever pick up the pieces and move on...:)
qworq 3 years ago
98 percent of you need to show more dignity and maturity. Comments like this make me want to jump ship and join another party. Please, people, act like the political change you want to see in the country. It's not all about slamming each other; it's about how people respect each other, how you respond to people who may not agree with you. If you can't walk the talk, please take a hike.
frolic4U2b 3 years ago 4
If he values independent thinking, why is his the most predictable liberal vote in the Senate? A People for the American Way computer program would cast the same votes for cheaper.The Gang of 14 created bipartisan unity on judges, but Obama sat it out. Kennedy and McCain created a bipartisan deal on immigration. Obama opted out of the parts that displeased the unions. Sixty-eight senators supported a bipartisan deal on FISA. Obama voted no.
Urhash 3 years ago
Hill sat it out, as well. Also, his "most liberal 'voting' record" thing, is flat wrong. His life time rating is 85%, and as of the previous cycle (2006) he was at 84%. That ranks at like 14th. The fact that Obama missed a lot of votes is why he ranks where he does: They have few voting samples, all of minute content, and that's what they rated.
Also, The National Journal is a biased organization (see:2000 McCain; see: Kerry, 2004, where the same thing happened and Kerry only cast a few votes).
alteredlame666 3 years ago
The Fisa vote is legit, surely, but the voting this is just misleading. There are other journals/publications that are more respectable.
alteredlame666 3 years ago
Also, if you want to go at him because of the missed votes, that's legit, as well. But you better go at Hillary because she missed a truck load, too.
alteredlame666 3 years ago
Obama says he is practicing a new kind of politics, but why has his PAC sloshed $698,000 to the campaigns of the superdelegates, according to the Center for Responsive Politics? Is giving Robert Byrd's campaign $10,000 the kind of change we can believe in?
Urhash 3 years ago
Well, it still beats Hill's trek.
Robert Byrd would make a great investment with those rascally southerners. Smart politics Barack!
alteredlame666 3 years ago
Barack Obama vowed to abide by the public finance campaign-spending rules in the general election if his opponent did. But now he's waffling on his promise. Why does he need to check with his campaign staff members when deciding whether to keep his word?
Urhash 3 years ago
The part of the answer both Hillary and McCAin left out was "combined with free television and radio time to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests". McCain has agreed to nothing, that was another stipulation.
Thanks, Mr. Context.
alteredlame666 3 years ago
Desparate, power hungry, old witch! better win wisconsin or this is what we Obamaniacs will say to you, "HAHAHAHA!"
oftendespised 3 years ago
the hillary spin machine at its finest :)
everyone who thinks obama plagiarized is fucking retarted.....is GooshieCenterMeOnSam the only one with a brain? deval encouraged him to use that part of his speech! hillary is a hypocrite everyone knwos she will do or say anything to win...... obama on the other hand wont, he didnt bitch when she used his slogans
captainstabbin123 3 years ago
then he should have acknowledged it. it's called a foot note. and spare us the foul language, and learn to spell (retarted - is that like becoming a tart again?).
qworq 3 years ago
The country is getting ready to elect another president based on emotions rather than reasons. A shame really when there are other, qualified candidates like Clinton and even McCain. Enough of the worshipping of this guy. He is NOT all that. People, GET REAL!
popcult 3 years ago 2
Just another liar headed to the White House. He can't be stopped so we need to get used to more lies.
nickpoo 3 years ago
I'm trying to decide which is more pathetic: Hillary's campaign having to stoop to making a huge deal over Obama using phrases a friend of his SUGGESTED HE USE or her campaign posting fake comments about this video like "This worries me. It makes me wonder how much of his inspirational speeches were actually his own." Memo to the Clinton campaign: if I wanted petty dirty campaigning, I'd be voting Republican. Find something more important to talk about and maybe more people would listen.
GooshieCenterMeOnSam 3 years ago
LOL.
Obama's words are not his. So really we should be electing Deval Patrick - at least he can come up with something new.
Now let me see, who else did Obama plagiarize?
Oh wait the wuestioins hould be ...
Who else did Obama's speechwriter plagiarize???
LOL. DUM A$S.
fjstratford 3 years ago
Deval gave Obama permission to use part of his speech. It's not plagiarism if you have permission. Otherwise every time Bill and Hillary give speeches that were written by their speechwriters they would be committing plagiarism. You may want to understand what plagiarism is before you accuse people of committing it.
wulfgyr 3 years ago 2
It doesnt matter. The fact is he passed off someone's work as his own. Its plagiarism, its cheating.
Try submitting your best friend's essay in school... its still cheating even if your friend gives you permission. Thta's why your mommy cant write your essays for you.
You cant pass off someone's work as your own. period.
CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS
fjstratford 3 years ago
exactly! he should not have used the speech if he didnt say "my friend deval made this"
shanijones14 3 years ago
It's amazing what people's pre-conceived opinions make them believe/say. It just makes you look like an idiot. From the dictionary (note the word "unauthorized"):
pla·gia·rism
noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
I know you have a brain so stop pretending you don't.
jaypob 3 years ago
it is plagiarism if the source isn't acknowledged. writing 101.
qworq 3 years ago
Just words. Really? Thats all he 'stole'. Two freaking words and a small series of quotes in a similar order. Thats not plagiarism and no court in America would find him guilty of it. What will his opponents uncover next? That he ripped off the Lords Prayer during a Sunday service and then they'll uncover the demonic truth behind his quoting the National Anthem at a sporting event. Seriously? Just Words? How else is someone going to respond to, "Your speeches are just words"?
thyroid75 3 years ago
This worries me. It makes me wonder how much of his inspirational speeches were actually his own. I think she had every right to point this out, just as Obama would if the roles were reversed.
mandys782 3 years ago
It's HILLARIOUS (Clinton supporters probably aren't intelligent enough to get that pun) how desperate these Clinton supporters are getting. :o) Keep digging your own hole, people... say how long has it been since Hillary hasn't been BLOWN OUT of a primary election???
schnad 3 years ago
lol, cat fight!
TNTony 3 years ago
There's something powerful here. One candidate says that more than words will be needed to improve America. The other candidate responds by "borrowing" a friend's words.
caenumterrae 3 years ago
this is the best one i have ever seen...
kingslandUSA 3 years ago
BORROWS???
The word is STEALS!
OR how about PLAGIARIZED?
God, OBama is such a loser. He cant be a good example to our college youth. What a liar. I wonder what else he has lied about?
fjstratford 3 years ago
We are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa. Hillary Plagiarizing Obama.
scenic7 3 years ago
AGREED!!
OBAMA 08!!
brcuriosa0obama08 3 years ago
SHEEP!
Your Messiah is a FAKE! You better vote for Deval for Presdent instead!
fjstratford 3 years ago
Passing off someone's words as yours is CHEATING! LOL
Its not even his words! LOL What a stup1d guy is he if he thinks he can just cheat his way and get away with it.
What a moron. Enough of this empty suit!
Obama = CHEATER = PLAGIARIZER
I hope he does not Obama anybody else and claim things as his own, because that would be too funny.
fjstratford 3 years ago