pt.1 Ban on burqa, violation of women's rights

[xgotfiveonitx]

this is what happens when government gets involved with religion. stay out of religion, stay out of our mosques, stay out of our churches, quit interpreting faith for us, dont interfere with the affairs of religion period.

[markyia28]

i hate to say this but muslim women get more respect then other women cuz they dont show off there body like these women out her.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@markyia28 yup

[breekwhal]

The same way women must cover their chests while men do not, they should cover their hair. A woman's hair is special and adds to her beauty and sexual appeal. This should be reserved for her husband.

[Msunbird02]

@breekwhal Since muslims insist men and women are equal / have equal rights under Islam and shari'a, there's no reason why women should cover their chests and hair if men don't have to. That's logic.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@Msunbird02 what most people dont understand is that many women feel more comfortable that way. especially when horny guys are always staring at their private areas or always hitting on women, they feel more comfortable covering up and thats what many people dont understand.

[Msunbird02]

@xgotfiveonitx

That's evidence of the impact of negative psychological conditioning on muslim men and women only.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@Msunbird02 um no, sexual harrassement is a real problem in many parts of the world, not just muslims. when a woman covers up, she gets looked at differently. in india, where women do not cover up, is the rape capital of the world.

[kwynrhys]

@xgotfiveonitx No the problem is that men feel they can do whatever they want. It has nothing to do with clothing but with an imbalance in power. women have no rights. They deserve the right to be educated, to have a career, to protect their children, and to have a voice. Yes, western culture has a way to go still, but we are further ahead because we have made changes and have tried to create more of a balance. The burqa has become a symbol of oppression.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@kwynrhys how is being treated like a common whore, single motherhood living in poverty 'progress'? women wear the veil because they dont like men staring at them. maybe western women are attention whores who enjoy it, but not all women do. claiming that your culture, your customs, your values grants better or more rights than others is crap. women cant even walk down the streets without carrying mace in their purse.

[BastEternal]

@xgotfiveonitx "how is being treated like a common whore, single motherhood living in poverty 'progress'?"

It's the man that has the problem if he's treating women like common whores.

I live in NY and I don't carry "mace" in my purse. I don't have men treating me like a common whore and if he does, that's harassment and I would call police.

" women wear the veil because they dont like men staring at them. "

Women who wear veils in western cultures are stared at..so what's the difference?

[breekwhal]

@Msunbird02 I was comparing it to Western traditions. Women have to cover their chests, but men don't.

[pikeasaurusrex]

Since when is 56% to 44% "even." Hmmm............remedial math may be in order!

[lye54]

Sakrozy is a bigot period

[DanishRiyaz]

Sisters be steadfast!

[luxnhuntin]

at least shopping for clothes would be easy for them

[luxnhuntin]

at least shopping for clothes would be easy for them!

[sulyman751]

THIS JUST IN, THE FRENCH HAVE BANNED THE VEILS AND OTHER FORM OF MODEST CLOTHINGS, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY HAVE PROMOTED AND LEGALIZED WOMEN CLOTHINGS THAT EXPOSES THE FULL CAMEL TOES OF THE WOMEN, GAY MARRIAGES , AND RAPE. BACK TO YOU BOB.

[yonisfarah]

Democracy is a joke. Its clear Democracy is man made system. This will not stop Islam at all. As matter of fact it will increase the faith in numbers. The more Islam is on the spotlight the better. Allah Akbar.

[libyanspartan]

If a women wants to cover her face, she should be allowed to do so. It is ironic how we force women to reveal more of themself but no one ever tells those half naked women walking around to conceal more of themselves. Who is realy oppressed? The woman who does not care what people think of her physical figure, or the woman who believes freedom is equal to how much of her ass is showing. Seriously people, get your modesty back...

[mrsparky786]

Gay Marriage FREEDOM!! Lesbian Marriage FREEDOM !! Porn Star FREEDOM !! Nudity FREEDOM !! Sex berfore Marriage FREEDOM !!

But when a chaste Muslim woman wears Hijab by her choice it's a crime ??!!!!!!

Democracy. not in the west.

[pamuk7]

TO THE ISLAMAPOBES and Critics of Islam. WHO WANT to oppress Muslim women and Ban there Burka.

I have news for you. we will play the smart ass card back. If you choose to ban the Burka? IN RETURN in the future when we start a campaign TO BAN THE MINI SKIRT in all Muslim countries'' DON'T GET Up SET DEAL?

[MrLesVerts]

@pamuk7 The opposite of Burqa is Naked and as far as I know, it's illegal to walk naked! Freedom is limited in either way! I am Muslim, it is an archaic tradition not Islamic and if you want it, then there is Saudi Arabia. Let's remind ourselves, Muslims, that when westerners go to Iran or Saudi Arabia, they wear scarf out of respect for the society, I think we need to apply vice versa or move. Yes, I’m muslim!

[xgotfiveonitx]

@MrLesVerts no they wear it cuz its the law. plenty of white women travel to egypt to see the pyramids, they dont wonder around in hijabs either simply out of 'respect' give me a break.

[MrLesVerts]

@xgotfiveonitx May be you should fight to stop the possible BARBARIC STONING of the iranian woman. Where are the protests for this horrific, horrible act??? Where is the compassion, common sense, humanity??? Muslims have been closing their eyes and ears for years when real damadge is being done to our fellow sisters and brothers in muslim nations. Enough! stand up!

[xgotfiveonitx]

@MrLesVerts we do, its people like you who claim otherwise.

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts Yes you are a MUSLIM I agree A MUSLIM who needs to read a lot more, and to do your homework before you start criticize and making nonsense up as if we muslims follow cultural practiced rather then religious dogma and proof for what we do. You also said, we have laws that western women must cover up yeh well there are over 100 other muslim countries beside Saudi. And yes we will inshALlah bring shariah and complete ly ban the mini skirt you love to look at as a Muslim..lol

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts Hadith - Bukhari 6:282

'Aisha used to say: "When (the Verse): 'They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms,' was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their faces with the cut pieces."

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts say this means to use it to cover her head (agree upon by all scholars) and her face (agreed by many scholars, not all) and one or both eyes, in order for it to be known that she is a free woman and so not to be exposed to any harm.

Hadith evidence:

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

*the arabic word here is Jalabeeb (plural of Jalbaab), which is the loose outer garment that covers all a woman's body. It says here to use the Jalabeeb to cover all, and scholars

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts

Here are the verses:

Evidence from Quran:

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Ahzab 33:59

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves

[pamuk7]

@MrLesVerts Thank you for exposing how much of a Muslim you are. By the way I debated Neil Mitchell on 3aw Wednesday morning show. I nailed every single point they attacked the buka issue. At the end of our debate. There was a caller a so called Muslim who said, in regards to me that I didn’t know what I was talking about and labeled me as a fundamentalist and that burka is no where to be mentioned in the Islamic teaching?>

[VerdugoCityRider]

all they are doing is protecting their modesty you fucking backwards apes.....you call them backwards look at what your doing.....tools.

[MosterFrance]

Human right is violated and France force women to take out burka but next in France force women to wear bikini. May be they impose all girl in France must sex in public and wear bikini in Christian Church. Govt. should not violate UN resolution which is right to wear by own choice. Nazi France

[jennilicious007]

irrespective of my (or anyone's) religious beliefs, france has the right to ban what THEY deem unacceptable in THEIR culture and country, IT IS THEIR COUNTRY they can do as they wish, if the muslims protest it than they can go back to their own country. would the muslims find it acceptable if white women came to their country wearing short skirts, high heels and revealing clothes?? and walk around wherever they please? they have fashoin police over there who would beat them up over it!

[xgotfiveonitx]

@jennilicious007 exactly, what business is it of the government what people wear? no one cares if people walk around with purple hair, huge nose rings, dressed liked punk rockers, tell me what 'culture' is that? first off most muslim countries are ruled by secular govts. just because one or two implement certain dress codes doesnt mean its the norm or that its right either.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@xgotfiveonitx i mean why stop there? lets ban anyone from say wearing a biker jacket. lets ban anyone say from wearing hip hop clothes. lets ban anyone walking around low riding with their jeans, etc. do you now see how insane this all sounds?

[xgotfiveonitx]

@xgotfiveonitx i find it hilarious and hypocritical how people are coming here to tell people what they can and cannot wear because they think its 'their' country, but yet scream 'freedom' left and right. i have one q for you retards, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT WEAR?

[Volf99]

@xgotfiveonitx WE are the majority of the population in those countries and it is OUR word that is law. If you don't find these laws to your liking, I hope that you can go find a place that gives you what your looking for.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@Volf99 ha! the racist hillbillys said the same thing about racist segregation laws in the south too. people who live there pay taxes, who the fuck are you to tell people where they should go? who the fuck are you to tell people what they should wear? your just a bigot and nothing more. your white why am i not surprised by that? LOL

[jennilicious007]

@xgotfiveonitx What culture is that?.. OK tell me what culture is it to condone public executions in countries where being of another race is condemmed?.( IRAQ killing KURDS) or ( IRAN killing BHAI'AI) all in the name of ALLAH. Instaed of Barbaric CAvemen behaviour... the western world express themselves civially and humanely. Instead of killing, they prefer Punk rock...sounds fair to me =]

[xgotfiveonitx]

@jennilicious007 and yet you give billions to zionists to kill people of another race, subjugate them or starve them to death. tell me now who is 'barbaric'. so much for the western world of 'englightment'. besides you missed the point i was making, no government should be enforcing a dress code, i dont care where in the world that govt. is, be it france or saudi. unlike you, im not blinded by prejudices.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@xgotfiveonitx btw please watch the entire debate and all 6 parts.

[qamerdin]

Burka ban is completely against the women right, now west use another way to terrorise muslim.

[MosterFrance]

Human right is violated just like it violated in Afganistan where they force to wear burka just like France force to take off Burka (traditional and religious cloth) . Next step is France Govt. force to wear bikini. May be they impose all girl in France must sex in public and wear bikini in Christain Church. Govt. should not violate UN resolution which is right to wear by own choice. Nazi France do no have right to impose somethings in private life ( wear Hippi, punk dress code etc.)

[xgotfiveonitx]

saudis are wahabis, they even prohibit other muslims who dont subscribe to their sect. so that negates your lame argument right there alone. you need to know a countries langauge to get around, but whatever customs people hold is their own and none of your business, just like the french in qubec. the fact is its native american land, not french, not british. but since the english are the majority there, i can say the same for the french there speak english, act english. thats your hypocrisy!

[xgotfiveonitx]

i can even go a step further and say that all whites in Africa should quit acting European and start dressing, speaking, eating all things African going on your dumb xenophobic argument.

[sufiatheart]

Passing this bill shows that the French are as Little Minded as their Little President. Let's introduce some facts here; Population of the French Republic is 63Million people. Out of this 5million are muslim. Out of this possibly 2.5million are muslim women. Possibly out of thisfigure1.5million wear some form of hijab. So the great french civilisation is so insecure and shakey that it can't cope with a few hejabi women. Wow, the Republic is a mouse.

[xgotfiveonitx]

@kiwibrittie but the majority of canadians speak english. thats the argument that the french are using in regards to the Muslim female dress. its hypocrisy. and here they scream about 'womens rights' then what about the right for a woman who chooses to wear it? or does the state simply say 'we know whats best for you'???

[maryamsm]

oh nooo the french may ban shoes now cause I oppress my feet everyday by wearing socks and shoes together jailing them pretty tightly inside!!!

[snibher]

moan moan rant rant cry cry burn effirgies lol

[xgotfiveonitx]

@snibher you just described the french in Quebec who refuse to speak English due to their own arrogance lol.

[Mohsin77]

France is racist .

It is obvious they are targeting Muslims. Jesus said in the Christian bible that women should cover their hair ... Just like Christian nuns do, but I do not see the French banning nuns from covering their hair or banning them from wearing their modest clothing .. It is double standards and hypocrisy at its most hateful. If you are a white nun it is ok ... if you are non white it is not ok ... libertie, equalitie ... yeah right lol