It mental to hear this, I played this at Uni and thought I played it very similar to how Debussy would've played it. How wrong was I!! He plays it at a million miles an hour and he makes quite a few rhythmical slips on the left hand but then again maybe thats how he wanted it played.
Il y a deux compositions dans cette version, les notes sur le papier et les mains sur le clavier. Debussy devait vraiment être un pianiste incroyable ; on dirait qu'il se moque totalement de ce qu'il a écrit dans la partition et qu'il réinvente au fur et à mesure qu'il joue. Une inspiration quasi-Divine!
Thank you very much, filippeo85. After listening to the clockwork performances of Gieseking and others this one by Debussy himself is a real eye-opener. It's clear he has no concern for a constant tempo, and he obviously plays this piece somewhat differently at other times (and he gets a bit messy sometimes, too!) but he conveys the character of the music like no one else. Really liberating for us slavish pianists!
Does this say anything about why the first edition is so imprecise over details?
Piano rolls are a lot like MIDI recordings of today. Rather than recording the sounds of the piano, they "record" the actual movements of the pianists fingers and feet by punching a hole for each note played in a "paper" roll. When the process is reversed, the performance is duplicated as the holes actuate the keys and foot pedals of a special kind of piano that can read them.
This sounds amazing. Thanks for uploading it. I wish I understood more about the early technology that went into making player piano rolls; it's so authentic, even compared with modern digital gadgetry. Nice!
@diapas3 - no es una grabación. Es un "piano roll", digitado por el compositor. Me imagino que se le agregaron las dinámicas posteriormente. Sería bueno conocer más de su procedencia.
@leus No se que es un piano roll, disculpa mi ignorancia; pero la verdad es que sea lo que sea suena algo diferente de todas las grabaciones que conozco, y me gusta bastante. Agradecería información de la procedencia como dices tu amigo leus. Gracias.
Wow! Thanks for posting this. BTW, this question is addressed to all the pianists out there, especially the really good ones: What composer's piano music poses the greatest virtuosic challenge for a pianist? Is it Debussy, Beethoven, Liszt, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov, or someone else? Since I don't really play piano, aside from a few chords, I'm just curious to know what others think.
@MsAppassionata Well, for original pieces, probably Alkan + Liszt, maybe Sorabji, if I'm spelling that right, with his 4-hour Opus Clavicembalistum, or Ligeti, with his crazy etudes, but I can't argue the last two were actually composers on the level of Beethoven, Chopin, and others who might not have written the most virtuousic pieces. However, transcriptions pieces really makes things difficult, such as Godowsky transcriptions of Chopin Etudes and Cziffra's transcriptions. :)
@F1R1NMAHLAZAH hard doesn't mean best, that's a silly way of thinking mozart is easy to play but it makes you feel so.. complete.. people looking for tthe hardest pieces do not really understand music and are merely show offs
@Veringetorix Yes, and I understand that. I was just answering MsAppassionata's question about virtuostic challence, and I did explain that composers such as Sorabji, with all their music's difficulty, can never match the beauty of Beethoven.
I really like the way that he played this piece. This version is the best one i have heard!! His intepretation is different from everyone else and full of colour.
It's interesting to hear Debussy play it himself... but piano rolls ARE sometimes a little fuzzy on quality so I imagine it's not the same as hearing it in person
Originally and innovative. It seems that some of the expressions are not recorded in the score. From this, I guess that Debussy's music has a very wide range of room for interpretation of players, in terms of every elements of music such as dynamic, tempo, embellishment.
Ive ordered this peice for my grade 8...if anyone has played this, is it one of his hardest pieces? I can play arabesque 1, claire de lune and just generally his work...but im nervous about this one....
i've been playing this piece a while now, and can play it through - dont like it at this pace though. but i also have the 1st one. in terms of difficulty to learn whats the first one like in comparison to this one?
It's grade 8 with ABRSM and ABRSM only go up to grade 8 unless you want to do a diploma. Grade 8 ABRSM is equivalent to grade 10 on the exam board which goes up to grade 10 (sorry can't remember the name of the exam board)
@keetner I think Arabesque 1 is sort of grade 7 standard (notes wise), and the notes here are grade 8 standard. But obviously the task of actually playing both pieces well exceeds those standards!
@petiteFangs Arabesque no.2 is now in the 2008 syllabus for a grade 10 exam, which is good news for me, I get to play it for one of my festival pieces and for my exam :)
@KillingCrazy666 I'm currently preparing it for the Royal School of Music, grade 8 exam - and I made a mistake about the first arabesque - it's grade 7 for Royal.
"and just generally his work" really?? Debussy's work goes all the way up to LRSM and FRSM level.. can you play those? I should think not if you're doing a grade 8 exam...
my teacher never tells me to play in tempo, thats the whole point of playing pieces, interpretation and emotion, tempo comes alongside these and varies accordingly, just my opinion.
This is not Debussy himself. The Arabesque isn´t listed anywhere among his own piano-rolls or recordings. As someone wrote earlier it seems to be Carol Robinson on a piano-roll from december 1923.
This was sometimes published on on a CD together with Debussy piano-rolls to fill the CD.
From 17 tracks on that CD Debussy actually played on 7, so that may cause the mistake.
You should stop to spread false information and change the description of your video.
Let's be thankful to have this recording at all! My grandfather had a piano roll player at home. The piano rolls were about 12 inches long, special paper with small rectangle holes, rather similar idea to the German early music boxes, if you know what I mean. Foot pedals operated the movement and speed.
i'm not sure this is Debussy's performance. I'm sending an e-mail to a french association who care's about Debuusy's work, ask them if there is Debussy's recording. Debussy died in 1918, so it's possible...
It's a piano roll, not a real record. Its somehow a "tape" with holes on it, which respent pitch and volume, or somekind like that. So it can be, as this was really famous that period
I am so pleased that they did this.
thecam4444 1 month ago
Even listening to this I can feel my fingers snapping.
13mungoman13 1 month ago
It mental to hear this, I played this at Uni and thought I played it very similar to how Debussy would've played it. How wrong was I!! He plays it at a million miles an hour and he makes quite a few rhythmical slips on the left hand but then again maybe thats how he wanted it played.
RodtheFierce 2 months ago
From the album 'Debussy plays Debussy' on the dal segno label. 7 of the tracks on that album are played by Debussy. This isn't one of them.
everlastingleet 4 months ago
Il y a deux compositions dans cette version, les notes sur le papier et les mains sur le clavier. Debussy devait vraiment être un pianiste incroyable ; on dirait qu'il se moque totalement de ce qu'il a écrit dans la partition et qu'il réinvente au fur et à mesure qu'il joue. Une inspiration quasi-Divine!
Chateaubriand26 4 months ago
i am learning this piece, and I love playing it! very beautiful
Apollotheawesome 5 months ago
incredibly beautiful...
ansonyeung825 5 months ago
This is played by Carol Robinson, not performed by Debussy.
and issued on welte in (7146 DEBUSSY - Arabesque No. 2)
(sorry for my poor English)
Joseflhevinne 6 months ago
@Joseflhevinne actually it says it is a piano roll. debussy played on the piano and the roll recorded his performance.
Shanelololol 4 months ago
does anyone know if there exists, or if so where to find a piano roll recording of Debussy playing Claire de Lune? All I can find is dead links
Muzikman127 7 months ago
A piano roll can be THIS good ? amazing
anisometropie 7 months ago
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if only music in the genre's today would be as good as, this is almost its own genre; Beautifull.
BSpaceMusic 7 months ago
if only music in the genre's today would be as good as this is almost its own genre; Beautifull.
BSpaceMusic 7 months ago
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Très belle interprétation
fonfon241 8 months ago
bravo quelle belle interprétation!!!
fonfon241 8 months ago
Thank you very much, filippeo85. After listening to the clockwork performances of Gieseking and others this one by Debussy himself is a real eye-opener. It's clear he has no concern for a constant tempo, and he obviously plays this piece somewhat differently at other times (and he gets a bit messy sometimes, too!) but he conveys the character of the music like no one else. Really liberating for us slavish pianists!
Does this say anything about why the first edition is so imprecise over details?
GordonWillis 9 months ago
Piano rolls are a lot like MIDI recordings of today. Rather than recording the sounds of the piano, they "record" the actual movements of the pianists fingers and feet by punching a hole for each note played in a "paper" roll. When the process is reversed, the performance is duplicated as the holes actuate the keys and foot pedals of a special kind of piano that can read them.
blumuze2 10 months ago 8
This sounds amazing. Thanks for uploading it. I wish I understood more about the early technology that went into making player piano rolls; it's so authentic, even compared with modern digital gadgetry. Nice!
tinydavis69 11 months ago
QUE GENIALIDAD....................................................
Con su interpretación queda claro que la partitura solo nos dice un 30%, el resto después de un dominio técnico es algo personal.
Que gusto escuchar a Debussy, no sabía que existían grabaciones de el.
diapas3 1 year ago
@diapas3 - no es una grabación. Es un "piano roll", digitado por el compositor. Me imagino que se le agregaron las dinámicas posteriormente. Sería bueno conocer más de su procedencia.
leus 11 months ago
@leus No se que es un piano roll, disculpa mi ignorancia; pero la verdad es que sea lo que sea suena algo diferente de todas las grabaciones que conozco, y me gusta bastante. Agradecería información de la procedencia como dices tu amigo leus. Gracias.
diapas3 11 months ago
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shrbrthead 1 year ago
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i read somewhere that this song sounds like Debussy.
can anyone tell me which piece it sounds like?
"Psychic TV - The Orchids"
shrbrthead 1 year ago
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shrbrthead 1 year ago
@MsAppassionata also, ravel has a reputation for writing some extremely difficult pieces. check out gaspard de la nuit for instance.
heaventree22 1 year ago
@heaventree22 yea but not as hard as hammerklavier by beethoven played at beethoven's speed
DunNotCome 1 year ago
Amazing♪
toshiko2000 1 year ago
Only Debussy could give this better audio on a computer than all of the other YT videos of this piece.
Ringosfinger 1 year ago
Wow! Thanks for posting this. BTW, this question is addressed to all the pianists out there, especially the really good ones: What composer's piano music poses the greatest virtuosic challenge for a pianist? Is it Debussy, Beethoven, Liszt, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov, or someone else? Since I don't really play piano, aside from a few chords, I'm just curious to know what others think.
MsAppassionata 1 year ago
@MsAppassionata Alkan.
Dnmk2007 1 year ago
@Dnmk2007 Thanks for the info. I never heard of him but I will definitely check him out. Any other takers?
MsAppassionata 1 year ago
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Dnmk2007 1 year ago
@MsAppassionata
I would say probably either Liszt or Chopin.
daledude66 1 year ago
@daledude66 Thanks
MsAppassionata 1 year ago
@MsAppassionata Well, for original pieces, probably Alkan + Liszt, maybe Sorabji, if I'm spelling that right, with his 4-hour Opus Clavicembalistum, or Ligeti, with his crazy etudes, but I can't argue the last two were actually composers on the level of Beethoven, Chopin, and others who might not have written the most virtuousic pieces. However, transcriptions pieces really makes things difficult, such as Godowsky transcriptions of Chopin Etudes and Cziffra's transcriptions. :)
F1R1NMAHLAZAH 1 year ago
@F1R1NMAHLAZAH hard doesn't mean best, that's a silly way of thinking mozart is easy to play but it makes you feel so.. complete.. people looking for tthe hardest pieces do not really understand music and are merely show offs
Veringetorix 1 year ago
@Veringetorix Yes, and I understand that. I was just answering MsAppassionata's question about virtuostic challence, and I did explain that composers such as Sorabji, with all their music's difficulty, can never match the beauty of Beethoven.
F1R1NMAHLAZAH 1 year ago
@F1R1NMAHLAZAH I apologize, I didn't read the all teh comments =)
Veringetorix 1 year ago
@Veringetorix lol its k :D
F1R1NMAHLAZAH 1 year ago
wow! It's fun.
yingfunful 1 year ago
Ok. the interpretation is excellent.
Is it really 'el maestro' himself ? Unbelievable !
Salse7rito 1 year ago
beautiful! =)
SnowMozart 1 year ago
I like the first Arabesque better but this one is still a gem.
Twonez 1 year ago
amazing sounds
AaronHenley88 1 year ago
I really like the way that he played this piece. This version is the best one i have heard!! His intepretation is different from everyone else and full of colour.
piano0001 1 year ago
who performed this? where did the pictures come from? how come this song isn't really known? this is beautiful
DesertKid2 1 year ago
@DesertKid2 Haven't you read the title? It's the composer playing his own composition!
JupiterIV 1 year ago
It's interesting to hear Debussy play it himself... but piano rolls ARE sometimes a little fuzzy on quality so I imagine it's not the same as hearing it in person
Selendomono 1 year ago
I love this ♥♥♥
groovyzebra 1 year ago
Originally and innovative. It seems that some of the expressions are not recorded in the score. From this, I guess that Debussy's music has a very wide range of room for interpretation of players, in terms of every elements of music such as dynamic, tempo, embellishment.
MrEbaby2010 1 year ago
who cares about ages or grades just enjoy the BEAUTIFUL MUSIC
legallucy 1 year ago 11
of course this is the best version, it was "played" by debussy himself!
destryx 1 year ago
Great work of course, by the amazing composer.
Still, I find hardly anyone either notices or at least mentions that Prokofiev used the last melody here in his Classical Symphony.
kub73158 1 year ago
Beautiful performance .... his emotion of tempo rubato makes the piece alive ....
Virginielie 2 years ago
this piece is kinda fast... just my opinion though... im playing it anf i play it with a more steady type tempo.
jalhp1000 2 years ago
its really good but i like #1 even more
RCsST0RE 2 years ago 2
Its not Debussy himself for the last time?! lmao
Ive ordered this peice for my grade 8...if anyone has played this, is it one of his hardest pieces? I can play arabesque 1, claire de lune and just generally his work...but im nervous about this one....
LittleTinRobot 2 years ago
No, in fact that's one easy piece compared to most of his work. Preludes, Etudes, l'Isle joyeuse, Estampes, these are the hard ones !
Jimmyd45 2 years ago
This is a piano roll which is playing back exactly how Debussy played this piece. In effect, it is Debussy's performance.
samuelishmedia 2 years ago
I'm playing it for Grade 8 also, is very nice, some difficult pieces but overall not too bad.
f0xiek 2 years ago
i've been playing this piece a while now, and can play it through - dont like it at this pace though. but i also have the 1st one. in terms of difficulty to learn whats the first one like in comparison to this one?
iamsomotionless 2 years ago
the first one is a lot easier than this one!!!!
nickoicool 2 years ago
Really, grade 8? The books I'm using has Arabesque 1 as a grade 10 piece @_@
Then again, I don't think the piece is too, too difficult. Ah well.
keetner 2 years ago
It's grade 8 with ABRSM and ABRSM only go up to grade 8 unless you want to do a diploma. Grade 8 ABRSM is equivalent to grade 10 on the exam board which goes up to grade 10 (sorry can't remember the name of the exam board)
samuelishmedia 2 years ago
@keetner what is grade 10?
kalvin892004 2 years ago
@keetner I think Arabesque 1 is sort of grade 7 standard (notes wise), and the notes here are grade 8 standard. But obviously the task of actually playing both pieces well exceeds those standards!
josephinebijoux 1 year ago
@josephinebijoux Actually, both Arabesques are at grade 8 level..such amazing pieces...
petiteFangs 1 year ago
@petiteFangs Arabesque no.2 is now in the 2008 syllabus for a grade 10 exam, which is good news for me, I get to play it for one of my festival pieces and for my exam :)
KillingCrazy666 1 year ago
@KillingCrazy666 I'm currently preparing it for the Royal School of Music, grade 8 exam - and I made a mistake about the first arabesque - it's grade 7 for Royal.
Which school of music are you doing?
petiteFangs 1 year ago
@petiteFangs The Royal Conservatory of Music. Good luck on your exam :)
KillingCrazy666 1 year ago
"and just generally his work" really?? Debussy's work goes all the way up to LRSM and FRSM level.. can you play those? I should think not if you're doing a grade 8 exam...
samuelishmedia 2 years ago
I hate it when teachers tell me to play in tempo when even the composers themselves play the way they want.
Great recording from the Maestro himself
jasonextreme 2 years ago 3
yes, so true
chopinhorowitz 2 years ago
my teacher never tells me to play in tempo, thats the whole point of playing pieces, interpretation and emotion, tempo comes alongside these and varies accordingly, just my opinion.
iamsomotionless 2 years ago
This is not Debussy himself. The Arabesque isn´t listed anywhere among his own piano-rolls or recordings. As someone wrote earlier it seems to be Carol Robinson on a piano-roll from december 1923.
This was sometimes published on on a CD together with Debussy piano-rolls to fill the CD.
From 17 tracks on that CD Debussy actually played on 7, so that may cause the mistake.
You should stop to spread false information and change the description of your video.
pianist41 2 years ago 3
I'm learning this song right now.... it's nowhere near this good.
Rachel104evr 2 years ago
I'm with you, started last week but have a severe case of 'stupid fingers'
renjisXmineXbackXoff 2 years ago 2
by the way, this performance is really good (the best i heard)
geneosis 2 years ago 26
I'm agree with you. But anyway, I find the quality not good. But I think it's because this recording is very old.
yuanyi1993 2 years ago
Let's be thankful to have this recording at all! My grandfather had a piano roll player at home. The piano rolls were about 12 inches long, special paper with small rectangle holes, rather similar idea to the German early music boxes, if you know what I mean. Foot pedals operated the movement and speed.
goldie0800 2 years ago
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Shanelololol 5 months ago
i'm not sure this is Debussy's performance. I'm sending an e-mail to a french association who care's about Debuusy's work, ask them if there is Debussy's recording. Debussy died in 1918, so it's possible...
geneosis 2 years ago
Debussy also recorded "The Sunken Cathedral" ! And undoubtedly others pieces...
Urfold 2 years ago
It's a piano roll, not a real record. Its somehow a "tape" with holes on it, which respent pitch and volume, or somekind like that. So it can be, as this was really famous that period
progbassftw 2 years ago
this was debussy's performance? AWESOME!!
sfLoat23 2 years ago
Interesting!
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Historical classical recordings
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EuropeanArchive 2 years ago
you guys mind talking in english so i can understand but a beutafful peice i'm learning it i'm 11 =)
lordking9 2 years ago
merci beaucoup, enchantée !
suzettegm 3 years ago
Awesome
thanks for sharing
dabiribd 3 years ago 3
Beautiful...
CanPcess 3 years ago 14
I love it!
piano6861 3 years ago 2
Hi Filippeo85: I did research into this piano roll; it's probably of Carol Robinson.
theoshow2 3 years ago 2
And who was Carol Robinson? Tell us all the story.
NedRorem 3 years ago 2
Thanks,sir filip!
I was needing a touch like this....the old master claude..mon vieux et bien aimè maître!
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago
Tu parles francais aussi?Mais c'est une jolie surprise.
theViolinDreamer 3 years ago
Oui,mon jeune maître...un peu...
ankhsnammon
Ankhsnammon 3 years ago