AIR CRASH INVESTIGATION(AIR TRANSAT 236 )PART 3

[knakrzy]

Sullenberger ditched an a320 safely

[bvestationfan]

An A320 can ditch with a 130 MPH speed and 11.5 degree pitch up. Wouldn't it be the same with a extremely similar A330 and A340? Hell an A340 is just a 4 engine variant of the A330

[kantk2012]

@bvestationfan The A330/340 is NOTHING like the A320

[NFreund]

That Boeing 767 mad a very crappy landing...i did this in a full size simulator (Boeing 777) and made it...and i am only a glider plane pilot. The key is to hold the plane absolutly leveled and ditch with BOTH engines at the same time. And you have to hold the plane at stall speed...the stickshakers must be shaking at that moment...it's tricky, but not that difficult

[mario737ify]

@NFreund Yeah, but the 767 was hijacked, the hijackers were fighting the pilot to the last minutes of ditching.

[criticalmass181]

@NFreund I assure you that i'm not pulling the piss out of you, when I say this....However... I was a combat soldier, and combat exercises, where you were in no danger of dying, was one thing. Combat, where you WERE in danger of dying, is a completely different ball game. Make a mistake in a simulation, and you restart it.....Make a mistake in reality, and you die. It has a different effect on the stress level encountered.

[PhilipDK5800]

@NFreund great job, not try doing it with a crazy hijacker pointing a gun in your face.

[searchanddiscover]

man, if i were on a plane, i would not want to have time to think about a painful death. if a crash was going to happen, i want it to be quick or something.

[NightCrimson]

jfsa380, I think it's to do with pressured, when they engage the auto flaps, the plane multiplies that pressure into the need for the flaps to move, it can be done without electricity.

[jfsa380]

now how did they get the flaps down without power?

[The0013]

@jfsa380 They had power from the RAT (ram-air turbine).

[jfsa380]

@The0013 but i thought they said they couldn't do that, the RAT shouldn't be that powerful

[The0013]

@jfsa380 My bad, flaps were not working indeed. But the pilots didn't use them, they unlocked slats (leading edge surfaces) instead.

[jfsa380]

@The0013 but is shows the flaps deployed in the glide. stupid filmmakers

[jfsa380]

4:17 after US 1549, that guy will eat his words

[aromchuen]

That girlfriend is such a bitch!

[fawii]

open the speed breaks

[zulquarnainanwar]

fuck the captain!

[carstorm85]

Why is it tha ACI always mentions the Ethiopian flight but never mentions captain Scully and his landing on the Hudson River

[aromchuen]

@carstorm85 This episode was aired in 2003. The hudson river accident happened in january 2009. Go figure :)

[carstorm85]

@aromchuen O figures. Still that was an amazing feat of flying that Scully did.

[Kalvb123]

i saw that on aci, it split up into about 4 pieces.

stupid peeps on it inflated their life jackets and got crushed on the top on the fuselage as the plane sank.

[3k9sv048]

@ 4:18 Re: Boeing 767 ditching caught on amature film "ran out of gas"........while technically accurate there is MORE to that story. That Boeing 767 had been hijacked and was under a hostile take over NOT normal operations that went bad.

[Elemarth]

@3k9sv048 Also, they didn't mention that a main reason so many people died was that most of them had inflated their life jackets.

[acenace24]

that plane was hijacked, how was it a controlled landing?

[aromchuen]

@acenace24 It was hijacked but the pilots were still flying the airplane and had "permission" from the hijackers to ditch it after they realised that the hijacking had failed.

The pilot was in full control of the airplane.

[hmsrenown]

dropping the gear maybe is good for losing speed...

[maxwellus000123]

i thaught they were going to ditch, not land

[reetruss]

@maxwellus000123 they where going to try

[webeffect]

These passengers are such  paranoid morons! You're not going to die just because the lights went out!

[acenace24]

The copilot did a great job

[sruab]

superb flying!!!they deserve a lot of praise!

[Sho69607]

where are the oxygen masks for the passengers? By the way those masks are scary looking.

[DIMATIF]

@Sho69607 the passanger airmasks deploy when the pressure is low enough and the pilots have to keep both hands so they have to have those to secure it.

[dabois85]

LMAO the Drag created by the RAT is tiny if not insegnificant Compared to the Lift / Glide Ratio,

It would be like putting your hand out a Car at 60MPH, your hand feels a great draft but the car doen't notice it.. ok there might be a Tiny tiny diff.. instead of decent at 2000FT/min it would be like 2010FT/Min

LMAO RAT creates noticable Drag Lmao

[SIPHNEY]

gotta love those glasses

[sonicfan7]

an battery is not going to work for more then 1 min. BTW this is documated wrongly, the battery ran out 48seconds after the engine failed.

And you stupid fucker, atleast airbus knows how to do wing-efficienty. Not landing at 170kts are they nuts? and A380 is so wing efficient that it lands at 138kts SLOWER then the 737 which's at 145kts.

A330 - Gliding descendt rate: 2200 - 1800ft/min at +20 000 feet. 747 3100 - 2800, 737 3300 - 3000. A boeing Wouldn't have freaking made it. Shut up!

[sonicfan7]

and Didn't you saw that 767 at 4:30? Yes that happened with a boeing.

[fightingtemeraire]

You first compare a 2 engine aircraft with a 4 engine where obviously the glide ratios will be different and then you compare it with a flight in completely different conditions. Well done.

[sonicfan7]

@fightingtemeraire, different conditions? Dude those are manufacturors information and besides the 737 is an twin engine aswell. Now for the Competitor. 767. 3000 -2600ft/min

[fightingtemeraire]

I think descending out of cruising altitude after engine failure is quite different from being held hostage by armed terrorists who will not allow you to land at an airport. You compared the A330 with the B747. the B747 is a 4 engine aircraft as Im sure you know. If it was a boeing, the pilots would have been far less likely to regard the initial warnings as computer errors. The remaining fuel might never have been leaked.

[sonicfan7]

@fightingtemeraire ,

note at those A330 pilots, they must've been sleeping when they should have learned alway's to obey computer readings unless there's an OBVIOUS and CLEAR reason not to. Besides the same thing could happen at a boeing. Which didn't have fuel leak detection and fuel consuption calculators until 2004

[sonicfan7]

@fightingtemeraire , and I wasn't pointing at that particular 767 but to all 767- 200's on empty fuel tanks and their gliding rate 3000 - 2600ft/min

[shivangjha2008]

8:22..cool dudes!

[Carlos7Matute]

they should make a video of the usair landing in the Hudson river

[SIPHNEY]

@Carlos7Matute i think its there

[LayAllYourLoveOnMe]

the copilot is cute

[SuperPixelpro]

@LayAllYourLoveOnMe Rofl are you female?

[leviathan94xxx]

well instead of having one ram air turbine why dont they put at least two

[cougerf14]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME.@leviathan94xxx

[leviathan94xxx]

I know right, there's enough room to put at least 100!!

[cougerf14]

i think landing gear got all the space in the belly no more space to put another RAT.. I THIN SO

[leviathan94xxx]

yea well a RAT is very small they could put those pratically anywhere under the belly towards the nose, under the belly towards the tail, near the landing gear, On the landing gear mount ,under the wings I mean they could put them almost anywhere. And there is still room for more near tjhe landing gear

[cougerf14]

if that thing is sticking outside it will create a drag and it creates burnout high and itz a big blow for profit. maybe they can mount in any place.. but itz big as a cessna propeller so i think they didnt get a gap 2put that thing in.. will see what in future they r going 2 build 2 make pilots and passengers safe......

[kesstheman]

they could spaecial landing thngs for water. like the ones on the cessna airplane dat can land in water

[SuperPixelpro]

@leviathan94xxx You need a little bit of electricity/hydrolics to just pop one down, so 100? phwoah... and i dont think there's that much room from that many trap doors.

[therockingpenguin]

@cougerf14 the RAT also slows down the glide with air resistance. This would lessen the gliding range.

[cougerf14]

@therockingpenguin itz like a cessna propeller... since itz aerodynamic i think it wont create as much as drag .... and it wont resist the glide.....

[Aviationnation10]

@cougerf14 obviosly it will have some affect

[DLPBurke]

@cougerf14 of course it would.

[MrWorlddomination123]

@therockingpenguin cougerf14 is right. And if it didn't exist, the plane would be uncontrollable.

[leviathan94xxx]

Ram Air Turbine: deployed

APU generator: on

APU:on