Inside Nature's Giants : Polar Bear (Channel 4)

[Drykla]

HAHA Walrus Dick

[Paulp23000]

(O.o) its not that i like stroking you , LOL 18:44

[lancevancedance]

this is how i like my biology!

[MrAngelo1425]

what do polar bears taste like?

[funkytrain300]

That guy was messing with the privet part of a walrus

[gigitrue63]

sad to see this majestic creature killed for meat. They are endangered already; can't another food source be provided for these people?

[sandreid87]

@gigitrue63 Yes, it is indeed sad, but at least they are being killed for survival. It's far more sad to see animals being killed for money :/

[RealmEternal]

@gigitrue63 These guys have hunted them for thousands if not tens of thousands of years. So unless you are willing to pay for them to resettle in a city then I'm thinking the answer is no.

[Casin01]

i want to see a Komodo dragon :P

[Ukirozu]

I feel like eating some polar bear meat,that shit looks good.

[Minkay88]

seriously??

[Minkay88]

wait... did they seriously just kill a polar bear for those three petty reasons, OPENLY?

[TYUIO11111]

@Minkay88 they killed it for food and warmth they don't give a shit about money 

[Minkay88]

@TYUIO11111 who said anything about money?? and just because they say something on TV, doesn't mean u believe or accept it btw

[TYUIO11111]

@Minkay88  umm i know but i do work for Indian Affairs in Canada as an cultural management worker so i do know

[RavenHatterWriting]

What a terrible waste of a magnificent animal which is part of a threatened species.

[smoothyarra1]

i like to fight with one

[darknasher5000]

very educational

[hmongty37]

To bad their going insctint

[boecxyec]

I would rather someone kill tradition before another polar bear has to suffer! And if tradition doesn't want to die, kill those who just wouldn't leave it alone for fucks sake!

[littleperrie1234]

he sounds like bear grylls

[boezehexe]

why cant america have tv this good? oh yeah cuz its america :(

[10rosegarden14]

Polar bears have no natural predator, thus killing them is abnormal and have a negative effect in the food chain. Just like killing sharks, bears, lions and tigers.

[SugarBare28]

@10rosegarden14 What are you talking about? Humans are the polar bears natural predator. Natives have been hunting them for a very long time. Due to the small numbers of native hunters the polar bear had maintained a healthy and stable population. Disruptions in their habitat is the biggest threat to the polar bear.

[skiljathegirl]

"Do you really think we need so much chocolate?"

"YES!!!"

So funny...

[surfer1211]

@Morkindie species they rely so heavily on (bears.) They know they must let the life cycle happen. I understand your side especially since Bears are at risk but the Inuits (I think) need to survive also & the P.Bear is their Cow (or lettuce if you're a Veg) I respect your opinion entirely I just think you should check their perspective a bit more because Bears & other Indigenous Species (which are few & far between) are their living. Like I said thats their SuperMart & we need to respect that.

[Morkindie]

@surfer1211 I respect that they had a sustainable lifestyle long ago. If it weren't for all of the other pressures on polar bears, they might continue their tradition for hundreds of years more. That is not the way the world is. I don't see why I should respect them when they continue to practice a lifestyle that is contributing to the extinction of a species. We all need to cut back and curb our behavior, and these people, as individuals, are doing a great deal of harm. killing the young. : (

[heroesytumbas]

@Morkindie I hear you. I noticed that big deal they made in not allowing the scientists messing with the skinning. These people justify this massacres with their "tradition" bullshit, yet they use firearms, motorized vehicles, electricity, fabrics, etc. Jeopardizing the very existence of a species like this is just wrong and immoral.

[surfer1211]

@Morkindie Their Super Mart is the Ice Sheets. The isles there offer Seals, Walrus, and of course Polar Bears. I understand your side and how because bears are depleting that hunting them should be banned altogether. But I really believe the quotas are enforced and regulated. If they go over it can't be by much but honestly I feel as if the hunters respect and honor the quota. I think they are conscious enough to respect the 30 bear quota because if they go over it they can propagate the...

[surfer1211]

@Morkindie It is when that's your livelihood. Their hunting is our farming and cattle/chicken slaughter. Expect their really can't farm, so they "farm/slaughter" Polar Bears. That's their food and clothing. Obviously they have more modern clothing as well but "Traditionally," that was their main source. Although Polar Bears are an at risk species, they still need to be hunted for their own survival. It's not like these people can go to the local Super Mart and have steaks to just pick up...

[111E982a]

it would be good if we never existed at all.

[WorldWatcher9]

this is amazing im an average person but i enjoy watching these documentaries if only to further expand my knowledge and appreciate the facinating organisms that inhabit our planet

[WorldWatcher9]

those hunters are right ..you can't eat money hunger takes precidence scientist would'nt understand

[iTziLLUMY]

No animals were harmed during making of this film!

[lolcookie555]

that fur looks sooooo fluffy that i just wana stroke it and sleep in it XD

[BladesOfMunch]

How old is this documentary? It's impressive.

[SpelKille]

@BladesOfMunch This episode came out earlier this year. Indeed, it is a very impressive documentary.

[TheZombehdude]

did they need to kill a bear out for a walk with her cub? bambiesque

[ceitiosaurus]

did they do one on the ostrich or the hippo or rhino?

[andapabu14]

And I loved UK....

:(

[andapabu14]

OMFG

[wkboonec]

Thus, even by my relatively austere life style -- no car, no daily shower, equipped only with computer, telephone, tv, stereo, small fridge, low-watt light-bulbs, camping stove, ... -- I am one of a BILLION OR SO contributors to the destruction of the environment. I believe that part of the solution is to reduce the population of Earth from its present 7 billion to just around 1 or 2. Starting right now, even if it means fewer clients, fewer voters, fewer church members, ...

[akkadianarab]

awesome episode

[staindman00]

I don't know much about polar bears, but you didn't teach me anything new.. i just can't understand how you people go to sleep at night..

[0803526C]

I just feel sad that something so magnificent, top of the food chain beast can scope down to a level so low as this.. =(

[vangt5]

very nice! glade to have you back and posting.

[PBDPBD]

It says that it's thought that polar bears evolved from a population that was trapped in siberia. Right after that, they say they started eating seals. Since when are seals found right in the middle of siberia?

[SevenSixTwoNato]

@PBDPBD Since the last major glaciation, when there were inland waterways that contained seals. Today, their descendants live in Lake Baikal, far from any ocean.

[Superslemmet]

@PBDPBD The area on the map, in Siberia, wasn't "ground->ice", there was big areas of liquid water between the open ground and the massive ice of the ice-age, where many seals were trapped too.

Or so the theory goes, as I understand it. Many forms of seals live around the edges of ice-areas, so they would just tag along as the ice goes around.

[jeebersjumpincryst]

nonetheless...... I felt so sad and sorry for the poor unfortunate polar bear

[LimeyLassen]

This was was a bit disappointing. Very little actual dissection, and pretty heavy on scenery and dialog.

[VegsoulWhiteWolf]

Those hunters could easily survive eating something else. They shouldn't have been granted permission to kill polar bears just because it's their tradition; we can't afford losing these animals which are already on the edge of extinction...

[JamesThWilliams]

Most of the films I've seen on Polar bears are in reference to the bears in Churchill Manitoba.

[robobrain10000]

GOO richard

[Morkindie]

Tradition is not a reason to kill polar bears.

[vava54own]

@Morkindie

They kill to eat... I think it's a good reason.

[jeebersjumpincryst]

@vava54own I totally agree...

[Morkindie]

@vava54own Maybe if they were trapped and starving, yet they have boats and rifles and remain in the frozen North killing an endangered species. Tradition is not a reason. They are not killing JUST to eat.

[flatbuns16]

@Morkindie They're just killing for fun? Alrighty then.

[Morkindie]

@flatbuns16 I am not saying what they are killing for, only that it is not ONLY to eat.

[brentlion]

@Morkindie They are killing for their fur coats as well. By eating these animals, they can better adapt to the cold, by absorbing at least small quantities of the blubber of these animals, as well as using their fur coats, and of course they do need to eat. In such a cold climate, you would need a high fat diet, and likewise, they do not deplete the polar bear populations by hunting them.

[Morkindie]

@brentlion Yes, yes, I understand the logistics very well. If one were to live in the arctic in the primitive hunter gatherer lifestyle, hunting polar bears would be a no-brainer. However, these people are not living in those conditions. They are simply using a loophole to sell the polar bear's fur. They are not WEARING polar bear fur. They have the opportunity to leave, but they continue to hunt an endangered species. The situation is not sustainable. We should not allow this special pleading.

[brentlion]

@Morkindie They actually do wear the polar bear`s fur. You can even see one of them wearing one in this very vid. There are some cases, where, if you kill off a certain part of a population, they raise in numbers. Kinda like killing old male lions......not to say that i agree with the killing of these animals.......

[Morkindie]

@brentlion I guess I missed the polar bear suit. I also failed to see their kayaks and spears. If one kills all of the non-producing males, it stands to reason that there will be more resources for the females to survive. That is not what they are doing. They are killing females and the young.

[brentlion]

@Morkindie Neither, you, nor i, fully understand all of the reasons why killing a certain group of these may cause an increase an the overall population size....so, i don`t pretend to.

[Morkindie]

@brentlion speak for yourself.

[brentlion]

@Morkindie It applies to anyone who hasn`t spent many years involved with these animals.

[vgrasomni]

@Morkindie if you are referring to the footage at 6.25min in, that is clearly a dog sent out, not a cub, look closer you can see the long bushy tail curled upward, golden fur and the ambling movement as it excitedly is attempting to subdue/wear out the bear. Be serious really. When hunting not all dogs would be part of the team.

[Morkindie]

@vgrasomni No, I was referring to the bears that they were carving up. It is not a tiny cub that one would pick up and feed with a bottle, but it is not fully grown. There are certain rules to sustainable hunting. But when a creature is endangered from human's non-hunting behavior, hunting becomes unsustainable no matter how it is practiced.

[vgrasomni]

@Morkindie True, I couldn't agree more that hunting a top predator who has naturally lower numbers due to -among other aspects, the range of the prey and amount of prey required, makes it unsustainable, especially if their genetic diversity is low. It is tricky when people say they need such a species to survive in a land. As controversial as it is, humans do not have the right to send other species extinct. As well as the effect it can have in an ecosystems services it make logical sense.

[TYUIO11111]

@vgrasomni true but they are very limited to their hunting and the Inuit take everything and also have been doing it for generations they dont just kill for sport this is a job for many to feed their families

[vgrasomni]

@Morkindie (continued) to preserve the genetic diversity and thus evolutionary potential in order to sustain life on earth.

[Tolstoievsky]

@Morkindie how about hunger? is that reason enough for you?!?

[Umbalafum]

@Morkindie yeah, they should grow crops..

[Morkindie]

@Umbalafum or motorboat south. If they are such enthusiastic hunters, there are invasive species all over the world causing problem.

[AtheistCause]

@Morkindie maybe not.. but survival is...

[Morkindie]

@AtheistCause They are not hunting for survival. If they wanted to survive they would leave that frozen waste land they live in. They have boats. The scientists offered them money. They stay because they are stuck in their culture, and they see their traditions as more important than the survival of polar bears.

[erikakharada]

@Morkindie There are quotas for hunting polar bears, seals, whales etc.; as was made evident in the programme, what is most dangerous to polar bears are pollution and global warming. I think it's unfortunate that you think they should give up what they have been practicing, sustainably, for hundreds of years because we in the "modern" world are causing the decline of their prey. It's very easy to say "well, why don't they just stop?" if it's not your culture being criticised.

[Morkindie]

@erikakharada What quota could be reasonable when the animal is endangered? Also It is not like I am suggesting that they stop hunting so that the rest of us can continue to pollute. I want to go tearing around in a gas guzzling muscle car as much as then next person, but instead I try to find ways to reduce my impact. These people are continuing their tradition despite the fact that the world has changed.

This is a clear case of special pleading.

[erikakharada]

@Morkindie It reads like you lack empathy when you suggest that Inuits abandon their culture entirely. It's not a case of special pleading because those of us who have a decent paying job can likely adjust to a life that impacts the earth much less due to our modern conveniences. We will not have to give up a large part of our culture, in any case. That will result in a much more favorable result for the protection of bears than if we forced Native folk to give up their traditional way of life.

[Morkindie]

@erikakharada False Dichotomy. Everyone must adjust to reduce their impact on the Earth, environment, polar bears, if we care to preserve them. It just so happens that they were born into a culture that, per capita, has a larger impact on polar bears than mine.

[Morkindie]

@erikakharada I have plenty of empathy for them, but I find it curious that they are willing to change their culture in some ways and not others. Why are they using rifles and motorboats? Where are the kayaks and harpoons? They are wearing NorthFace and using snowmobiles. Wrong culture?

[AtheistCause]

@Morkindie thats stupid.. why dont you move from your country? your wasting the air there and should leave... the natives there have just as much right to stay as the damn bears..

[Morkindie]

@AtheistCause You are not making any sense. Would you like to rephrase your statement?

[erikakharada]

@Morkindie By that same token, tradition is not a reason to raise millions of cattle, pigs, and chickens, and in the process decimate the environment beyond what killing a few polar bears would.

[Morkindie]

@erikakharada Agreed. That is why I only eat organic grass fed local food.

[AarowSwift]

@Morkindie

In their case, it's not tradition, it's survival.

[Morkindie]

@AarowSwift Seriously? They are wearing North Face gear, drive snowmobiles, motor boats and wrangle every penny out of a fur that they can. They are taking advantage of a loophole to profit from an endangered species when they could hunt any number of invasive species. Perhaps this life is easier for them than driving semi or flipping burgers, but that does not make it for "survival".

[lazzielazzie]

@Morkindie

Same logic applied to whales. Tradition is an excuse.

[Morkindie]

@lazzielazzie Not a valid excuse. Not a logical justification. They might as well say, "We hunt polar bears because we want to."

[lazzielazzie]

@Morkindie maybe i'm wrong about comparing polar bears to whales, people live in Greenland may not be the main reason for driving polar bears under the threat of extinction, but people living in the cities are. Maybe that's why they couldn't abandon tradition. However i don't think they should keep doing this. On the other hand, Whale is a completely different story, Japanese use "scientific research" as an excuse to kill a huge amount of whales and dolphins , and to make profit out of it

[Morkindie]

@lazzielazzie I think we agree. Both whales and polar bears are under severe pressure from human activity or natures reaction to human activity. A certain portion of that is hunting. The difference between the Japanese and Greenlanders is scale.

[rusalkin]

@Morkindie that fur is a million times better than any synthetic shit out there, sadly... u have to wear one for just 5 minutes to appreciate the difference, if u want to help invest in nano technology :)

[AgApE010]

@Morkindie

It's no merely tradition. They stated that the hunters use the bear meat, skin, and fur. They survive on it.

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010 Really? What % of their dietary intake do polar bears constitute? Enough to make up for all of the time they spend tooling around in boats on the ice?

[AgApE010]

@Morkindie

Are you suggesting that they burn more calories hunting the bears than they get from eating the bears?

And it's easy to sit behind a computer and judge those who have to hunt to eat, isn't it? Don't be a tool. Try to understand different peoples' lifestyles.

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010 I don't know how many calories they burn, but the seem to be much more interested in the fur. What about all of the gas they burn, the equipment they need to go on these expeditions, the time they could be spending on a more productive enterprise? I personally know many deer hunters. Hunting deer is easy by comparison. It is nice to have fresh venison in the fridge, but you would have to be an idiot to believe that it significantly offsets the investment. They make their profit on fur.

[AgApE010]

@Morkindie

Got any evidence to back up those accusations that these hunters are merely fur-peddlers?

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010 They make it clear in the video that the hunters are very concerned about the condition of the fur.

Also, try a google search

furcanada--- bear-skin-rugs-polar-bear

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010 "this just it---7'6" nose to tail." That is barely within the adult male range, so it is either a young adult male, a female, or polar bears are shrinking.

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010 a 7' brown bear rug goes for $8900, so how much do you think they sell a polar bear fur for?

How much blubber and meat do you think you could get for $8900? Do you think that the meat makes a considerable portion of the overall value of a polar bear?

[AgApE010]

@Morkindie

I'm not seeing evidence dude. Do you know what constitutes as evidence?

[Morkindie]

@AgApE010

I posted earlier but it didn't seem to take. Look up FRUCANADA. They sell fur of all types. They sell polar bear fur that they get from traditional Inuit hunters. The brown bear rugs sell for $8900, so if you are interested, inquire about the price of a polar bear skin. Then factor that against the cost of substituting polar bear meat with beef and you will get some idea of exactly how much emphasis they put on the skin.Youtube won't let me post links so you will have to work.

[Xgya2000]

40:15 guys licking their lips. I bet they sure would like some polar meat nao.

[reafdaw01]

YES another one. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[szasz85b]

finally, a new episode O_O

[FUCKOFFYOURGAY]

swweeetttt :)

[MultiDwo]

Welcome back

[deagon85]

Awesome