i love dr. ivan van sertima he is one of the greatest teachers out there alive or dead i love you sertima <3 may rest in peace i wish i had the chance to see you in one of ur lectures
Lets face it what does matter it what our black race has done. Being from Africa people will never understand or want to what the African has done. We all know when we here our parents talk about back then. I don`t care what any non-black says, Asians, whites and Latino`s they all tease us. Yet, they fail to realise that they are engaging in the same behaviour that is put on to us by whites back then and now. Know who your history people! Know it
@european1001 wrote: "transported" millions of black Africans across the Sahara, call blacks today "abid" or "slave" "they are docile and submissive to slavery because they have attributes similar to dumb animals"...
Ha! and you say you arent the biggest fool this planet has to offer! What a big fool you are; your mother is docile, submissive and has attributes similar to dumb animals. Iya e lo n bawi, awa ko!
The original MOORS are AfRaKan "BLACKS"!! Arabs are an amalgamation of "BLACK" AfRaKans mixing with Indo-European and Anglo-Saxon women. We had tones of European women in our harems and the people you call Berbers, Arabs, etc. are the offspring, FACTS!!! Do your research!! In ancient times, Moors aka "BLACK people" occupied Alkubulan (modern day Africa) and the Middle East. We are the true "Sunni" people (ORIGINAL SUN KISSED)!!
obviously, @ european1001 That bitch Ibn lied to you but the moors did build architectural gems in parts of Spain......By the way damn your ugly and your arms need some type of ointment
@european1001 Yeah, I expect that answer from people who stole history from others but if Moors were not black african they would not allow these actors to play them. One of many problems with whites is that they want to omit everything not white to bolster their ego. Your history involves stealing others, to justify your worthless existence and your treatment of non whites. Gatekeeper, if you dont believe what this documentary is saying, why are you watching it? Find something else to do.
@european1001 As for Ibn Khaldoun somebody who is considered to be the father of sociology, Ibn Khaldun's for lack of a better word "racial" characterizations are so ridiculous that you can't help but laugh. Especially of Africans and Bedouins. He was an idiot. And people who quote idiots are idiots. People like you are scared of the present because of what happened in the past. Afrophobic seems to fit all people like you. In other words asshole you are a unsuccessful racist, LMAO
@european1001 What does Paul Robeson, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Keith David, Martin Lawrence, James Earl Jones and Laurence Fishburne to name a few all have in common. They were accurately depicted as Moors. Not black moors but the majority of moors who were African. Who were to be distinguished from the Berbers who were a mixed race people in North Africa resulting from the intermarriage between caucasian Libyans & indigenous Africans. Africans were called Moor & moor means black face.
people you can't reason with the white demon race,they can't help it's against there nature to face truth,until you realize these are demons you will always try to hope there human-the earth has been under there demonic power ever since they perfected human form,proof-google, are white people born with tails,you bet ,they are demonic reptillion descended, then go to thesweetsarahize,page and see some great info on the black moors !
You dodged Shakespeare depiction of a Black Moor named Othello.
by saying there were no Black Moors in Europe in this time and Shakespear never saw a Moor but you can't explain why he called his black character Othello a Moor and why the painters at that time depicted him as a black man.
Basically you say there is no rhyme are reason why Shakespeare depicted a black man as a Moor.
That doesn't make sense.
If you can't admit to the fact Shakespeare depicted blacks as Moors, why debate me.
@akkadianarab Show proof, Your lazy ass took the time to type in that comment but you can't prove it by typing in proof to defend your statement in the same manner.
@4zahra It is far more simple than that. The European's painted the moors and they painted them as Black Africans. Whites act as if these depictions were just done because the Europeans were having a laugh. They painted what they saw.
You keep talking about one supposedly moor named Ibn Khaldoun who you say said racist comments about Blacks
What does that prove?
It doesn't prove shit.
Again, I can point to many Black Moors with high military rank and political rank but it will be pointless in a debate with you because obviously, you can't take the truth.
First you say there is no such thing as a Black moor
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Now after vigorous rounds of you mentally getting your as whooped you did some half ass research and now you claim was a very small number of Black Moors and They were all slaves or slave soldiers.
That sentence is still a far cry from the truth.
You still have a ways to go when learning about the Moors who conquered Spain.
It would probably take someone like you a year or two to read a respectable book on this matter.
@european1001 That's the 100.00 dollar question posed to Europeans by Africans. White Supremacy/Racism is historically your concept, please answer... I would have to lean towards the Cress Theory myself. If Africans couldn't feed themselves we would ALL be extinct including you. Come again(RHETORICAL)???
@european1001 "in the 1940s the celebrated artist/art historian Miguel Covarrubias published a series of photos of Olmec artworks and of the faces of modern Mexican Indians with extraordinarily similar facial characteristics including the Mongoloid eyefold"
This ONLY proves that they have admixture from Blacks, who have ALL the features of the human race in their genome. In conclusion it proves Van Sertima's point. This is NOT a theory, it's just a fact that is not accepted. GDAY!!!
@european1001 So you acknowledge he was one of Europe's best writters, a translator of the bible (even though he did more than translate it), but you still say he never seen a Moor?
How on earth could anyone living know prove that
Obviously, he believed some blacks are Moors because he made Othello black.
@european1001 WOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH SHAKESPEARE? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ONE OF EUROPE'S BEST WRITERS, IF NOT THE GREATEST.
HE EVEN WROTE A VERSION OF THE BIBLE!! HA HA
I GUESS IT WAS A COINCIDENCE HE WROTE A PLAY THAT STARED A BLACK MOOR NAMED OTHELLO AND NAMED THE PLAY OTHELLO
"SHAKESPEARE NEVER SAW A MOOR", SAYS THE BITCH.
AFTER ALL, SHAKESPEARE WAS BORN IN APRIL, 1564 JUST A CENTURY AFTER THE MOORS LOST SPAIN.
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,//now let me know if i have misspelled any insults you tooth fairy mamas boy.....unlearn everything you have learned. you xfile cast member wanna be. oh yea before i finish pull up creationist vs. evolutionistson you tube man does not draw what he does not see..even 65 million yrs ago...
@european1001 lets do this look at national geographic love how they keep showing the white caveman with long bushy hair and beard..in reality its my relative from ethiopia, kenya, somalia..get past your eurocentric view that white men came independent of humanity you dip shit..opinionated whiteboy. your mind cant take other information as reasonable you U F O believing motherfucker your fucking jesus christ is the son of an extraterrestrial//
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,..i guess the sphinx face looks like what you have been taught it looks like. man walked with the dinosaurs even in europe before there was a europe it was just a swamp in prehistoric times. your neanderthal relatives. were just coming out of the caucus mountains about 2 million years ago.
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,closed minded darwin freak, get passed your asshole and understand that spain came to mesoamerica, and raped it of its culture and natural resources and history..finding the olmec heads is no different than napoleon finfing the sphinx in egypt..by the way did you catch the artist depiction of the sphinx as it was drawn by one of napoleons soldiers..
@european1001 That MAKES NO SENSE, The Great fact is the you and everyone else comes from a Black Women. But I know you don't believe it because you live in falsehood.
This is a fact the first people on this earth ARE BLACK
Every other race comes from them.
BEHOLD BITCH.
Most scientist in the world acknowledge this.
GO TEND TO THAT SHITTY ASS GARDEN IN YOUR BACK YARD.
@european1001 So in conclusion, after reading his books, I find his historical facts or in order and he proves all of his claims with documents and great historical works.
I believe him more than you.
Where are your books?
He has also been honored as an historian of world repute by being asked to join UNESCO's International Commission for Rewriting the Scientific and Cultural History of Mankind.
Can you buy that!!
What were you saying about a bullshit garden in your yard!
@european1001 He worked for several years in Great Britain as a journalist, doing weekly broadcasts to the Caribbean and Africa. In doing field work in Africa, he compiled a dictionary of Swahili legal terms.[3] In 1970 Van Sertima immigrated to the United States, where he entered Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, for graduate work. He began his teaching career at Rutgers University as an instructor in 1972. In 1977, he completed his master's degree.
@european1001 I don't have to consult no one. I know the truth. your 5 months in Spain does not qualify you to know the history of the Moors. I know they were kicked out of Spain.
This was the start of the Renaissance.
The reason why they named the period the Moors conquered Spain the "dark ages" is because they were embarrassed black moors conquered Spain.
You have been lied to in the classroom just like everyone else on many parts of world history Bitch.
Moor 1. One of a Moslem people of mixed Berber and Arab descent, NOW LIVING chief in northern Africa.
This is the definition you saw......notice the words NOW LIVING. These are the people the mostly occupy Morocco now.....They are not the same people that conquered Spain.
Again you need more than a dictionary, you need a historical book.
Stop being LAZY and read an book other than a dictionary.
Wrong. Even though the Moors conquered Spain, every one doesn't know the Moors conquered Spain,as a matter of fact you don't know they were black. I ask you to quote me a piece of literature to back up your claims, it is obvious you can not. The Moors you are talking about are the ones who PRESENTLY live in Morocco, not the native Moors.
Open a book.
Using your logic, I could say the Americans and the Native Americans share the same past but this is far from the truth.
@european1001 "Actually Asians, Europeans even Native Americans, but not Negroes, have been proven to have between 1 and 4% Neanderthal genes."
Have you seen the title to the video?!?!? Mr. HIGH IQ white men.
It says science of the MOORS. GENIUS. If you have nothing to say I suggest you go watch ANIMAL PLANET or JACK ASS or better yet DISCOVERY channel to further increase your high IQ
@european1001 Wrong. What piece of literature did you get your misinformation. ps. if you can't tell me your source you shouldn't comment. Moors did enslave but they were black men. They conquered Spain an ran spain for 700 years. This is why western historians call this period the dark ages.
You want to believe that they are Arabs because many of them practice Islam.
I don't know if you this, but some black people practice Islam to.
@TheBrewskiBaby So if you dont believe race exists why do you use a crayon to write a month ago, "Moors are Berbers. Berbers are Caucasians.You moolies need to stop trying to steal everyone else's history and realize that you are just niggers.Now chow down on that watermelon, and smile from ear to ear because you are black as coal." You are a cock sucking lying homo looking for attention so you blurt anything out. It most be a form of Terrets Syndrome. Leave the meth alone weird one.
@TheBrewskiBaby I am "white". I use the quotation marks because, technically speaking, race does not exist. Now if the question is do I believe America should look into some way to attempt to at least try to make amends for past sins committed, I'd say yes.
@TheBrewskiBaby Not a threat at all. Just a statement of fact, we, as a species, are in serious danger our racial and religous bigotry exploding (literally) into something that could bring us to the brink of extinction. When we die off it will be because of our ignorance. You are just one of millions, maybe billions, of idiots in this world putting us all at risk.
@TheBrewskiBaby emphatically now. We are all humans and need to get beyond your extreme and perverse ignorance. We must learn to live together, or we will all die together. Dick.
@TheBrewskiBaby The Moors were ethic polyglots.They had Berbers, Egyptians, Libyans, Sudanese, and many others amongst their numbers. The majority were Black, and none would qualify as "white" to the typical white supremacist which you seem to be. You need to shut the fuck up and understand that representatives of all so-called races have had impacts on the development of human history. The contributions of "non-whites" have been largely ignored for so long, it has become necessary to state them
@TheBrewskiBaby Hey be civilised now no insults!!!! That just shows your lack of respect for humanity. Don't forget that you group of people just evolved 20,000 years AGO. Show some respect to your elders. You see my ancestors were here 200,000 years ago so hmmm it kinda makes sense that every single thing you know and every siongle dollar that you have comes from or has been stolen from MOTHERLAND. oh by the way last time I checked NEANderthals were extinct. So how did you make it?!??!?!?!!!!!!
Egyptians are indeed Africans but aren't dark skinned Africans. Some dark skinned Africans inhabit the land mostly as slaves even today, but the majority are Arab, Spanish, French Africans. That's like being a U.S. Citizen born n raised n saying I'm Canadian too. Just as that's not the case, such is the case here. So I'll have to agree with the lucifer cat. What does it matter? You do no good in arguing about something you haven't any control over nor any connection except for the Gibraltarian
@josephbel If memory serves me correctly Van Sertima was a student of Diop's. They may have disagreed on some things, but they were for the most part in agreement on most things. I would like to see a brainstorm between the two, though, they were both brilliant.
@luciferiexcelsil of coasre you not going to give me any proof becuase you don't have any to give. Like i originally said, It's just what you chose to believe as truth
@luciferiexcelsil The moors did not trigger slavery in the Americas. Pope Martin V did when he ordered Spain and Portugal to be civil to one another. The Arabs, not all Moors introduced white slavery into asia. The arabs kidnapped blond white women and sold them into slavery. They still do today. They also enslaved africans atleast 1000 years before the Portuguese and Spanish did, claiming it was part of their religion, and when europe did it it was with the jews and for profit.
sertima is right. the spaniards came to america..they did not destroy any tablets..they sit in the vatican in rome..in mesoamericaa all the dragonfaced staues are depictions of what they saw. you do not draw things you do not see. I urge you wake up.the truth is here man walked eith the dinosours the proof is in every youtube video about mesoamerica evrytime the word ancient is used it refers to black people. people of youtube find out for yourself about the real truth ans sunworship
news alert..the white christian community has spoken truth, the temples in mesoamerica are depictions of dinosaurs all those statues that appear to look like dragons were really there depictions of dinosaurs.man walkde with the dinosaurs and the history was recorded on the peru stones. jesus christ is transformed sun worship. the truth is written on the wall. pay attention.....
StraightT,A vague idea of what they looked like? We had a pretty good idea as to what they looked like. Its called an EYEWITNESS view. The people in Europe described the Moors (and Egyptians) as having " Broad nose, thick lips and DARK or Burnt skin'. I'd say that that describes a Black person. Thats how we know what they looked like. Wikipedia the word Moor(s). It says Spanish languauge Moors is Moro, Portuguese is Mauro, Greek Mauro, I.E BLACK, used to desc, Dark people. Read & learn.
English ethnologist and antiquarian scholar Gerald Massey (writing in 1881 in his massive two-volume text, A Book of the Beginnings) noted that, "Morion is said to have been the architect of Stonehenge.... Now, as a negro is still known as a Morien in English, may not this indicate that Morien belonged to the Black race, the Kushite builders?"
@luciferiexcelsil What are you talking about Lucifer? Moro, mulano, moros, all mean dark or black depending on how used. Stop making shit up gate keeper. And for your education the word Marrano does not only mean pig. It now means spanish jew (moors). They were told to change their religion from Judaism to christianity or leave spain in 1492 after the mass exodus of jews and muslims. Some jews went north and formed the Dutch West Indian Company for shipping people, the real holocaust
@Lucifer, Dark Skin or Black is the same thing to me. From 711 to 1492 the Moors were in europe and they came mostly from North Africa. During those times the term Black really wasn't in the lexicon until the 1600 - 1700's. Anyhow the Moors would be considered Black today. The complexion of the Moors were of Michael Jordan, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Lebron James, Morgan Freeman, Mike Tyson, Etc, and Last time i checked those people are considered BLACK!
@mrfreaknasssty lol, at the time the term used in Spain for Sub-Saharans(negroids) was negro, just like it now is, and nope, you can see who moors were by looking at modern Moroccan people, Moor is a vague translation to the English of the word Moro, Moresco, Marrano, Jews and Arabs were called these, Turk Ottomans were called Moor too, and they are not black at all, actually, they are hard to difference from Eastern European peoples.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, Thanks for proving my point, if the Moors are hard to differentiate from the Eastern Europeans, then how could you tell them apart from the other Europeans? You can't. Unless there's a difference in skin color. 10 white guys from Europe, No one would stand out, except if you had BLACK Skin.
@mrfreaknasssty I'm not saying there weren't black Moors, all I'm saying is that Moors weren't a part of black history, well, they only thing they have in black history, is that they introduced the enslavement of Negroids to Europeans, that's about it.
@Lucifer, The Europeans were practicing Slavery on themselves without the help of the Moors. In fact thats where the term Slavery comes from, SLAVS, who where made Slaves by other europeans and then that term became synonymous with the word Slavery. And if you pay attention to this GRAND MASTER SCHOLAR and watch the whole series on the Moors he will show and prove who they were and what the brought to europe. The MOORS(Blacks) Helped bring europe out of the DARK AGES with there technology.
@mrfreaknasssty Slavs are North Eastern Europeans, they were made slaves by the Romans, true, there was slavery before that, but slavery disappeared in a big part along with the Roman empire, Slavs were no longer servants, and no, MOOR DOES NOT MEAN BLACK, the Moor society was heterogeneous, Berber rulers, and sub Saharan warriors and slaves.
@mrfreaknasssty and if you see well, the ones on start slavery on negroes in massive scale was the Arabs, they were buying slaves from the chiefs of the tribes long before Christian Europe did.
and this guy on the vid' talks about moors like there's no trace of them, THERE IS A LOT, even art of them, buildings still stand in Granada, the whole thing about moors is written among the reconquest era of Chrisitan Spain.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, You just proved my point, you're saying that the Turk ottoman's and the eastern europeans were hard to differentiate so then how could you tell one apart from the other? So how could you tell who was a MOOR and who was not? Except for the color of there Skin.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, I know they were Black, you didn't have to tell me that. Dr Ivan Proves it beyond a shadow of doubt, Just want you to STOP spreading LIES. Thank you.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, The Moors are NOT your culture. So what the HELL are you talking about? The Moors were described as BLACK, so you claiming that thats your culture is Very Funny.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, I don't care where you're from if you're not BLACK then thats NOT YOUR CULTURE. As Dr. Ivan was saying @ 1:31 When the Spanish were defeating the MOORS a painting was done of the defeat and there was BLACK Generals surrendering, "What were the surrendering if they were Not in charge"? Watch the lecture again and learn something.
@mrfreaknasssty Moors were heterogeneous, there were black moors, there were Berber moors, saying that some Moors is right, but saying that Moors were black is a stupid statement. and the fact that I was born here, and my ancestors were directly affected by Moors in many way, makes it my culture, so deal with it!
The other Moors come from mixture between the Africans and the Spainish women as well as the Arabs and the spanish women. All the spainish kingdoms had to pay 200 virgins annually. Now this happened a long time ago my friend but the fact remains that the word Moor was used to describe the black Africans they (Greeks and Romans) saw in Northwest Africa. It's not stupid. Moor comes from Maures meaning dark, black or swarthy. Black is the meaning of the word itself.
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, Again the Moors were 90% Black, and that's what the word Moor means(Black) in about 5 different languages. You ancestors were directly affected by the Moors, this is the only true statement that you made. The Moors helped raise your ancestors from the * DARK Ages into the LIGHT!
@mrfreaknasssty I like putting devils in their place, and to be honest with you I think this person knows what we are trying to say here is true but it easier to dis-inform or destroy than it is to inform or build for a greater good. If you were lied to all of these years you would be upset to find out the truth just like these people are. Lu The name Lucifer says it all.
@luciferiexcelsil Your culture does not like talking about it so they distort the truth and yes you did come out of darkness that is how you were affected. The original Moors were black africans with some others. They became mixed or as you say heterogeneous after foolishly mixing with the european and adopting their or your ways into what was already a perfect system for the time. They grew soft and eventually corrupt. This lead to the downfall of us Moors.
@mrfreaknasssty I humbly disagree with its not their culture. I am not on the side of a devil however it took darkskinned africans to bring these people into the light, All of the architecture, science, mathematics etc came from us the source and was shared with them. So I think it makes it part of their adopted then stolen culture just not the originators. I believe the painting he was referring to is entitled "La Rendición de Granada"or "Reconquista-rendicion-granada". "The reconquering."
arent the amazigh decendents of Arab migrants just like current Egyptians? Over the course of ancient history. There have been migration and ethnic mixing. Imagine in the year 3000. People will think that whites were the first people in the Americas
If u call Ivan Van Sertima an idiot guess what look in the mirror as*hole there's the IDIOT, Ivan (R.I.P) has brought consciousness to many who would've neva heard the truth if not for this great man, n I'm white but I agree with the EVIDENCE that he spoke the TRUTH, We all are African whether all the black or white people want to agree with that FACT or not, there's evidence its science, whites began with albino seed migrating and adapting to its environment, we all come from 1 mind
The Moors are a great example of our African families that migrated to other parts of the world.
The Moors were Africans who build their own society and invested so much and to make us be so aware that Africans, we didn't depend on anyone, but onto our ownselves.
U must care about your ancestors unless you want your, children, grand children & great grand children to forget about your existence and not care. That karma will come back to you if you do not care. Not caring is the trait of the caucozoid, a man that is indigenous to no land on earth.
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R.I.P. DR. Ivan Van Sertima
"We have come to reclaim the house of history. We are dedicated to the revision of the role of the African in the world's great civilizations, the contribution of Africa to the achievement of man in the arts and sciences. We shall emphasize what Africa has given to the world, not what it has lost."
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Van Sertima was a Rutgers Professor. I was lucky enough to take one of his classes. The course I took was a full semester analysis of the book 'Invisible Man'. A truly enlightening experience.
Isn't it great when assholes like Dennis open their stupid mouths?
Now put down the mouse you inbred jackass and back slowly away from the computer.
Or, if you're too stupid to do that, then at least put down your self-autographed copy of Mein Kampf and shut the f**k up.
Blacks were the Moors, people like you can't accept that you had nothing to do with the major movements of history. You see that blacks not whites were everywhere and your pea-brain can't accept it. Go shoot yourself already!
The moors in spain were not black, they were arab, berber and iberian converts. The armies that conquered the iberia was composed of arabs from syria, yemen and berbers from morocco.
Look at the pics of people from north africa, they are not black! and never were.
Africans invented slavery, Europeans tried to bring it to an end.
ScienceFindsGod 4 weeks ago
i love dr. ivan van sertima he is one of the greatest teachers out there alive or dead i love you sertima <3 may rest in peace i wish i had the chance to see you in one of ur lectures
machetetoka 5 months ago
Lets face it what does matter it what our black race has done. Being from Africa people will never understand or want to what the African has done. We all know when we here our parents talk about back then. I don`t care what any non-black says, Asians, whites and Latino`s they all tease us. Yet, they fail to realise that they are engaging in the same behaviour that is put on to us by whites back then and now. Know who your history people! Know it
momozay243 5 months ago
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@european1001 wrote: "transported" millions of black Africans across the Sahara, call blacks today "abid" or "slave" "they are docile and submissive to slavery because they have attributes similar to dumb animals"...
Ha! and you say you arent the biggest fool this planet has to offer! What a big fool you are; your mother is docile, submissive and has attributes similar to dumb animals. Iya e lo n bawi, awa ko!
adeamujale 5 months ago
The original MOORS are AfRaKan "BLACKS"!! Arabs are an amalgamation of "BLACK" AfRaKans mixing with Indo-European and Anglo-Saxon women. We had tones of European women in our harems and the people you call Berbers, Arabs, etc. are the offspring, FACTS!!! Do your research!! In ancient times, Moors aka "BLACK people" occupied Alkubulan (modern day Africa) and the Middle East. We are the true "Sunni" people (ORIGINAL SUN KISSED)!!
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4zahra 7 months ago
Black August/Ramadan 2011!!1
Feel da Power!
Black August 2, 1850: UnderGround RailRoad was started
BillionGODSun 7 months ago
excellent video
4zahra 8 months ago
What a piece of shit. He goes from moors, to nasa, to german scientists and then the plague in europe.
zuzasaki 8 months ago
obviously, @ european1001 That bitch Ibn lied to you but the moors did build architectural gems in parts of Spain......By the way damn your ugly and your arms need some type of ointment
4zahra 8 months ago
@ellinsonwritgh60srage your welcome spread the word that page is excellant !
theraisis 8 months ago
There's too much proof that there were Black Moors and they conquered Spain.
4zahra 8 months ago
excellent video
4zahra 8 months ago
@european1001 Google the Corsican flag and that should answer your questions
ellisonwrigh60srage 8 months ago
the white demon race is a fraud - they are demonic until you get that you will always be confused !
theraisis 8 months ago
She must don;t know that the moors had white slaves.....which was also inhumane
4zahra 8 months ago
@european1001 Yeah, I expect that answer from people who stole history from others but if Moors were not black african they would not allow these actors to play them. One of many problems with whites is that they want to omit everything not white to bolster their ego. Your history involves stealing others, to justify your worthless existence and your treatment of non whites. Gatekeeper, if you dont believe what this documentary is saying, why are you watching it? Find something else to do.
groundpounder35 8 months ago
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@european1001 Your question is rhetorical,
If you can't admit to the fact Shakespeare depicted blacks as Moors, why debate me.
4zahra 8 months ago
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If you can't admit to the fact Shakespeare depicted blacks as Moors, why debate me.
4zahra 8 months ago
That doesn't make sense.
If you can't admit to the fact Shakespeare depicted blacks as Moors, why debate me.
4zahra 8 months ago
@european1001 As for Ibn Khaldoun somebody who is considered to be the father of sociology, Ibn Khaldun's for lack of a better word "racial" characterizations are so ridiculous that you can't help but laugh. Especially of Africans and Bedouins. He was an idiot. And people who quote idiots are idiots. People like you are scared of the present because of what happened in the past. Afrophobic seems to fit all people like you. In other words asshole you are a unsuccessful racist, LMAO
groundpounder35 8 months ago
@european1001 What does Paul Robeson, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Keith David, Martin Lawrence, James Earl Jones and Laurence Fishburne to name a few all have in common. They were accurately depicted as Moors. Not black moors but the majority of moors who were African. Who were to be distinguished from the Berbers who were a mixed race people in North Africa resulting from the intermarriage between caucasian Libyans & indigenous Africans. Africans were called Moor & moor means black face.
groundpounder35 8 months ago
people you can't reason with the white demon race,they can't help it's against there nature to face truth,until you realize these are demons you will always try to hope there human-the earth has been under there demonic power ever since they perfected human form,proof-google, are white people born with tails,you bet ,they are demonic reptillion descended, then go to thesweetsarahize,page and see some great info on the black moors !
theraisis 9 months ago 9
@theraisis Great info on the thesweetsarahize page!! Thanks my friend!!
ellisonwrigh60srage 8 months ago
@theraisis White demon race???
NoxiousSubstance 6 months ago
You dodged Shakespeare depiction of a Black Moor named Othello.
by saying there were no Black Moors in Europe in this time and Shakespear never saw a Moor but you can't explain why he called his black character Othello a Moor and why the painters at that time depicted him as a black man.
Basically you say there is no rhyme are reason why Shakespeare depicted a black man as a Moor.
That doesn't make sense.
If you can't admit to the fact Shakespeare depicted blacks as Moors, why debate me.
4zahra 9 months ago 17
@4zahra LOL the producers of the modern day one but him as black. Moors are not black but berbers and arabs
akkadianarab 7 months ago
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4zahra 7 months ago
@4zahra watch
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akkadianarab 7 months ago
@akkadianarab Show proof, Your lazy ass took the time to type in that comment but you can't prove it by typing in proof to defend your statement in the same manner.
Where's the proof???
4zahra 7 months ago
@4zahra watch the video dumb shit. the description of the video contains the sources go look for yourself
akkadianarab 7 months ago
@akkadianarab WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU BOUGHT A BOOK TO READ OTHER THAN FOR SCHOOL?
DUMMMY
4zahra 7 months ago
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@akkadianarab Damn your dumb, that's why you can't prove shit because your too lazy to pick up a book. You want to prove all your claims with videos.
Read a book.
You don't like this video but you want to prove your claim by telling me to watch a video.
You dare pick up a book. STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
4zahra 7 months ago
@akkadianarab Where's your proof other than assumptions?????
4zahra 7 months ago
@akkadianarab Please show proof other than your opinion!!!!!
4zahra 7 months ago
@4zahra It is far more simple than that. The European's painted the moors and they painted them as Black Africans. Whites act as if these depictions were just done because the Europeans were having a laugh. They painted what they saw.
BigPreme 2 months ago
@BigPreme agreed
4zahra 2 months ago
Moors were not overwhelmingly Berbers.
You keep talking about one supposedly moor named Ibn Khaldoun who you say said racist comments about Blacks
What does that prove?
It doesn't prove shit.
Again, I can point to many Black Moors with high military rank and political rank but it will be pointless in a debate with you because obviously, you can't take the truth.
4zahra 9 months ago
First you say there is no such thing as a Black moor
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Now after vigorous rounds of you mentally getting your as whooped you did some half ass research and now you claim was a very small number of Black Moors and They were all slaves or slave soldiers.
That sentence is still a far cry from the truth.
You still have a ways to go when learning about the Moors who conquered Spain.
It would probably take someone like you a year or two to read a respectable book on this matter.
4zahra 9 months ago
As i said this Bitch wasn't aware Black Moors conquered Spain and ruled for 700 years
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 No one is going for your misinformation. What you need to do is really study about yourself.
PS. Damn your ugly and what is that nasty shit on your arms?
You need a dermatologist.
You should take that video off your YouTube channel and wear some long sleeves everyday.
4zahra 9 months ago
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4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 That's the 100.00 dollar question posed to Europeans by Africans. White Supremacy/Racism is historically your concept, please answer... I would have to lean towards the Cress Theory myself. If Africans couldn't feed themselves we would ALL be extinct including you. Come again(RHETORICAL)???
Gday!!!
THEMONITOR72 9 months ago
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4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 "in the 1940s the celebrated artist/art historian Miguel Covarrubias published a series of photos of Olmec artworks and of the faces of modern Mexican Indians with extraordinarily similar facial characteristics including the Mongoloid eyefold"
This ONLY proves that they have admixture from Blacks, who have ALL the features of the human race in their genome. In conclusion it proves Van Sertima's point. This is NOT a theory, it's just a fact that is not accepted. GDAY!!!
THEMONITOR72 9 months ago
@european1001 Your in Denial
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 All the pictures of Othello clearly show him of African descent.
Damn your a dumb ass bitch.
Othello was painted black by Europeans, Not Africans.
will you acknowledge that?
You are in denial. Ha Ha.
Correction. Shakespeare said Othello was a Moor, he never stated he was black because their is no question of his color.
This is because Blacks in Europe at that time were called Moor. Dumb ASS.
This is why your ancestors painted Othello black. Ha Ha
Your in Denial
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 You are in denial.
All the pictures of Othello clearly show him of African descent.
Are you that prejudice that you can't see the truth.
Damn your a dumb ass bitch.
Othello was painted black by Europeans, Not Africans.
will you acknowledge that?
You are in denial. Ha Ha.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 So you acknowledge he was one of Europe's best writters, a translator of the bible (even though he did more than translate it), but you still say he never seen a Moor?
How on earth could anyone living know prove that
Obviously, he believed some blacks are Moors because he made Othello black.
Why didn't he make him a Berber?
You are very stupid.
And you are in denial.
4zahra 9 months ago
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@european1001 You are in Denial
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Your in Denial
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Damn your stupid. Who wrote the king James version? I know more about your history than you do.
4zahra 9 months ago
At european 1001 your in denial
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Why would he even entertain the idea of a black moor if their isn't a such thing as a black moor. Bitch your in denial.
This play is one of his greatest plays.
Bitch your in denial.
There are even movies of this play staring a Black man written by White men.
Bitch your in denial.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 WOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH SHAKESPEARE? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ONE OF EUROPE'S BEST WRITERS, IF NOT THE GREATEST.
HE EVEN WROTE A VERSION OF THE BIBLE!! HA HA
I GUESS IT WAS A COINCIDENCE HE WROTE A PLAY THAT STARED A BLACK MOOR NAMED OTHELLO AND NAMED THE PLAY OTHELLO
"SHAKESPEARE NEVER SAW A MOOR", SAYS THE BITCH.
AFTER ALL, SHAKESPEARE WAS BORN IN APRIL, 1564 JUST A CENTURY AFTER THE MOORS LOST SPAIN.
BITCH, YOUR ARE IN DENIAL! HA HA
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 I could direct you to images of black moors but you would still not accept them because you are racist.
Answer me this.
Do you like Shakespeare?
Are you familiar with the play Othello?
Why was Othello depicted as a black Moor by Shakespeare and All that study the plays of Shakespeare.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 lol you steady talking shit but your losing another intellectual battle.
Dexterlynnjenkins is making you look real stupid.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,//now let me know if i have misspelled any insults you tooth fairy mamas boy.....unlearn everything you have learned. you xfile cast member wanna be. oh yea before i finish pull up creationist vs. evolutionistson you tube man does not draw what he does not see..even 65 million yrs ago...
Dexterlynnjenkins 9 months ago
@european1001 lets do this look at national geographic love how they keep showing the white caveman with long bushy hair and beard..in reality its my relative from ethiopia, kenya, somalia..get past your eurocentric view that white men came independent of humanity you dip shit..opinionated whiteboy. your mind cant take other information as reasonable you U F O believing motherfucker your fucking jesus christ is the son of an extraterrestrial//
Dexterlynnjenkins 9 months ago
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,..i guess the sphinx face looks like what you have been taught it looks like. man walked with the dinosaurs even in europe before there was a europe it was just a swamp in prehistoric times. your neanderthal relatives. were just coming out of the caucus mountains about 2 million years ago.
Dexterlynnjenkins 9 months ago
@european1001 oh not so true,,,,,closed minded darwin freak, get passed your asshole and understand that spain came to mesoamerica, and raped it of its culture and natural resources and history..finding the olmec heads is no different than napoleon finfing the sphinx in egypt..by the way did you catch the artist depiction of the sphinx as it was drawn by one of napoleons soldiers..
Dexterlynnjenkins 9 months ago
Africa is the motherland of humanity.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 That MAKES NO SENSE, The Great fact is the you and everyone else comes from a Black Women. But I know you don't believe it because you live in falsehood.
This is a fact the first people on this earth ARE BLACK
Every other race comes from them.
BEHOLD BITCH.
Most scientist in the world acknowledge this.
GO TEND TO THAT SHITTY ASS GARDEN IN YOUR BACK YARD.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 So in conclusion, after reading his books, I find his historical facts or in order and he proves all of his claims with documents and great historical works.
I believe him more than you.
Where are your books?
He has also been honored as an historian of world repute by being asked to join UNESCO's International Commission for Rewriting the Scientific and Cultural History of Mankind.
Can you buy that!!
What were you saying about a bullshit garden in your yard!
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 He worked for several years in Great Britain as a journalist, doing weekly broadcasts to the Caribbean and Africa. In doing field work in Africa, he compiled a dictionary of Swahili legal terms.[3] In 1970 Van Sertima immigrated to the United States, where he entered Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, for graduate work. He began his teaching career at Rutgers University as an instructor in 1972. In 1977, he completed his master's degree.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 cont-
He began his teaching career at Rutgers University as an instructor in 1972. In 1977, he completed his master's degree.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Bitch even if you have a bachelors in history(which you probably won't use) your credentials don't surpass that of Ivan Van Sertima.
Ivan Gladstone Van Sertima (26 January 1935 - 25 May 2009) was a historian, linguist and anthropologist at Rutgers University in the United States.
He attended the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) at the University of London where he graduated with honors.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 I don't have to consult no one. I know the truth. your 5 months in Spain does not qualify you to know the history of the Moors. I know they were kicked out of Spain.
This was the start of the Renaissance.
The reason why they named the period the Moors conquered Spain the "dark ages" is because they were embarrassed black moors conquered Spain.
You have been lied to in the classroom just like everyone else on many parts of world history Bitch.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Are you a Mexican person who wishes to be white.
If so, you need to deal with your own self hatred before you try to joust intellectually with me.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 If you don't read non-fictional books concerning history you shouldn't comment on history as if you know what your saying.
There are libraries close by you
You need more than a dictionary to learn world history
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Damn your stupid.
Moor 1. One of a Moslem people of mixed Berber and Arab descent, NOW LIVING chief in northern Africa.
This is the definition you saw......notice the words NOW LIVING. These are the people the mostly occupy Morocco now.....They are not the same people that conquered Spain.
Again you need more than a dictionary, you need a historical book.
Stop being LAZY and read an book other than a dictionary.
4zahra 9 months ago
@european1001 Again, the native Moors were black.
Go to your nearest library and get J.A. Rogers, Nature knows no color line.
I can suggest many other books but just start with that one
4zahra 9 months ago
Wrong. Even though the Moors conquered Spain, every one doesn't know the Moors conquered Spain,as a matter of fact you don't know they were black. I ask you to quote me a piece of literature to back up your claims, it is obvious you can not. The Moors you are talking about are the ones who PRESENTLY live in Morocco, not the native Moors.
Open a book.
Using your logic, I could say the Americans and the Native Americans share the same past but this is far from the truth.
Open a book.
4zahra 9 months ago
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@european1001 "Actually Asians, Europeans even Native Americans, but not Negroes, have been proven to have between 1 and 4% Neanderthal genes."
Have you seen the title to the video?!?!? Mr. HIGH IQ white men.
It says science of the MOORS. GENIUS. If you have nothing to say I suggest you go watch ANIMAL PLANET or JACK ASS or better yet DISCOVERY channel to further increase your high IQ
LMAOF
AFRICANS enslaved europeans for 700 years.
ANY QUESTIONS?!?!?!
dogons2k12 9 months ago
@european1001 Wrong. What piece of literature did you get your misinformation. ps. if you can't tell me your source you shouldn't comment. Moors did enslave but they were black men. They conquered Spain an ran spain for 700 years. This is why western historians call this period the dark ages.
You want to believe that they are Arabs because many of them practice Islam.
I don't know if you this, but some black people practice Islam to.
4zahra 9 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby So if you dont believe race exists why do you use a crayon to write a month ago, "Moors are Berbers. Berbers are Caucasians.You moolies need to stop trying to steal everyone else's history and realize that you are just niggers.Now chow down on that watermelon, and smile from ear to ear because you are black as coal." You are a cock sucking lying homo looking for attention so you blurt anything out. It most be a form of Terrets Syndrome. Leave the meth alone weird one.
groundpounder35 9 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby I am "white". I use the quotation marks because, technically speaking, race does not exist. Now if the question is do I believe America should look into some way to attempt to at least try to make amends for past sins committed, I'd say yes.
mojosideburns 11 months ago
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mojosideburns 9 months ago
@mojosideburns Made a mistake dick. Get a hold of yourself.
groundpounder35 9 months ago
@groundpounder35 It's all good. My apologies for the overreaction.
mojosideburns 9 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby Not a threat at all. Just a statement of fact, we, as a species, are in serious danger our racial and religous bigotry exploding (literally) into something that could bring us to the brink of extinction. When we die off it will be because of our ignorance. You are just one of millions, maybe billions, of idiots in this world putting us all at risk.
mojosideburns 11 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby emphatically now. We are all humans and need to get beyond your extreme and perverse ignorance. We must learn to live together, or we will all die together. Dick.
mojosideburns 11 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby The Moors were ethic polyglots.They had Berbers, Egyptians, Libyans, Sudanese, and many others amongst their numbers. The majority were Black, and none would qualify as "white" to the typical white supremacist which you seem to be. You need to shut the fuck up and understand that representatives of all so-called races have had impacts on the development of human history. The contributions of "non-whites" have been largely ignored for so long, it has become necessary to state them
mojosideburns 11 months ago
@TheBrewskiBaby Hey be civilised now no insults!!!! That just shows your lack of respect for humanity. Don't forget that you group of people just evolved 20,000 years AGO. Show some respect to your elders. You see my ancestors were here 200,000 years ago so hmmm it kinda makes sense that every single thing you know and every siongle dollar that you have comes from or has been stolen from MOTHERLAND. oh by the way last time I checked NEANderthals were extinct. So how did you make it?!??!?!?!!!!!!
dogons2k12 11 months ago
Egyptians are indeed Africans but aren't dark skinned Africans. Some dark skinned Africans inhabit the land mostly as slaves even today, but the majority are Arab, Spanish, French Africans. That's like being a U.S. Citizen born n raised n saying I'm Canadian too. Just as that's not the case, such is the case here. So I'll have to agree with the lucifer cat. What does it matter? You do no good in arguing about something you haven't any control over nor any connection except for the Gibraltarian
TOOPRETTY25 1 year ago
Working on black history presentation for church
MrDecal 1 year ago
@MrDecal I did a presentation for church the last week of Febuary. Our people gotta know...
lmarr07 11 months ago
Too bad we cant have Dr Ivan debate Dr Anta Diopp. May they rest in peace.
What do we do with the Moorish manuscripts that Dr Diopp spoke about?
josephbel 1 year ago
@josephbel If memory serves me correctly Van Sertima was a student of Diop's. They may have disagreed on some things, but they were for the most part in agreement on most things. I would like to see a brainstorm between the two, though, they were both brilliant.
mojosideburns 11 months ago
When was this lecture?
I like black Historians,they are always Honest, smart,good,real and audible!!
estorpai 1 year ago
brilliant scholar he was RIP Dr Ivan Van Sertima!
asayal6 1 year ago
@StraightTalk2
You are the idiot, he's makes a whole lot of sense.
Don't breed your stupidity to those who want to be self-aware.
peasah2005 1 year ago
You should upload this somewhere - full length. Thanks, however, peace.
irongiant20012001 1 year ago
I find funny how a black man talks about Moors.
the Moors introduced slavery to the Christian Spain and to Portugal!
the Moors used slave/warriors who were subsaharan.
the Moors technically triggered the massive shipping of Slaves to the new world..
so yeah. lol
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 2
that's funny that you actually believe that
maitai302 2 years ago
@maitai302 It's just the truth.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
@luciferiexcelsil It's just what you chose to believe as truth
maitai302 2 years ago
@maitai302 true, for many things it apply, but not on this case.
we are talking about factual things, not metaphors or ideas.
what is history and science, it's either black or white, true or false.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
i love when people say things are factual, okay, show me facts that i can see that says that
-Moors technically triggered the massive shipping of Slaves to the new world
-the Moors used slave/warriors who were subsaharan opposed to the Moors including sub-Saharan
-That slavery did not exist in Spain before the Moors can there please show me FACTS that undisputedly proves this
also history is prospective based, that's far from black or white, true or false.
maitai302 2 years ago
@maitai302 no, I didn't say there was no slavery at Spain, I just said that there wasn't any massive slavery.
and I'm not gonna give you any proves, look them up yourself.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
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@luciferiexcelsil of coasre you not going to give me any proof becuase you don't have any to give. Like i originally said, It's just what you chose to believe as truth
maitai302 2 years ago
@maitai302 Dont worry, people will slowly be forced to admit the truth.
lmarr07 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil The moors did not trigger slavery in the Americas. Pope Martin V did when he ordered Spain and Portugal to be civil to one another. The Arabs, not all Moors introduced white slavery into asia. The arabs kidnapped blond white women and sold them into slavery. They still do today. They also enslaved africans atleast 1000 years before the Portuguese and Spanish did, claiming it was part of their religion, and when europe did it it was with the jews and for profit.
groundpounder35 9 months ago
R.I.P Brother Sertima.Hotep
zuzuxwater 2 years ago 3
sertima is right. the spaniards came to america..they did not destroy any tablets..they sit in the vatican in rome..in mesoamericaa all the dragonfaced staues are depictions of what they saw. you do not draw things you do not see. I urge you wake up.the truth is here man walked eith the dinosours the proof is in every youtube video about mesoamerica evrytime the word ancient is used it refers to black people. people of youtube find out for yourself about the real truth ans sunworship
Dexterlynnjenkins 2 years ago 6
news alert..the white christian community has spoken truth, the temples in mesoamerica are depictions of dinosaurs all those statues that appear to look like dragons were really there depictions of dinosaurs.man walkde with the dinosaurs and the history was recorded on the peru stones. jesus christ is transformed sun worship. the truth is written on the wall. pay attention.....
Dexterlynnjenkins 2 years ago 2
wacht my video atlantis in america
i don't have a race complexibity because of it'
we are all good people forget ruling class
there is no fear.
thenewend2012 2 years ago
StraightT,A vague idea of what they looked like? We had a pretty good idea as to what they looked like. Its called an EYEWITNESS view. The people in Europe described the Moors (and Egyptians) as having " Broad nose, thick lips and DARK or Burnt skin'. I'd say that that describes a Black person. Thats how we know what they looked like. Wikipedia the word Moor(s). It says Spanish languauge Moors is Moro, Portuguese is Mauro, Greek Mauro, I.E BLACK, used to desc, Dark people. Read & learn.
mrfreaknasssty 2 years ago
@mrfreaknasssty Moor did infact meant dark skin,but Moors were a mix of Berber and Arab Rulers and Black African slaves and warriors.
and Moor does not mean black, moor translates to modern Spanish as moro/moreno', which means technically brown.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
English ethnologist and antiquarian scholar Gerald Massey (writing in 1881 in his massive two-volume text, A Book of the Beginnings) noted that, "Morion is said to have been the architect of Stonehenge.... Now, as a negro is still known as a Morien in English, may not this indicate that Morien belonged to the Black race, the Kushite builders?"
0alstonw0 2 years ago
@0alstonw0 Moor was a term that appeared in the middle ages along with latin vulgaris languages(Castillan/Italian/Portuguese/French/Romanian)...
you are talking about a different thing, talking about the Stonehenge?
Moor does not mean black! it was an offensive thing actually, Moro, Marrano(means literally pig).
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 2
@luciferiexcelsil What are you talking about Lucifer? Moro, mulano, moros, all mean dark or black depending on how used. Stop making shit up gate keeper. And for your education the word Marrano does not only mean pig. It now means spanish jew (moors). They were told to change their religion from Judaism to christianity or leave spain in 1492 after the mass exodus of jews and muslims. Some jews went north and formed the Dutch West Indian Company for shipping people, the real holocaust
groundpounder35 9 months ago
@Lucifer, Dark Skin or Black is the same thing to me. From 711 to 1492 the Moors were in europe and they came mostly from North Africa. During those times the term Black really wasn't in the lexicon until the 1600 - 1700's. Anyhow the Moors would be considered Black today. The complexion of the Moors were of Michael Jordan, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Lebron James, Morgan Freeman, Mike Tyson, Etc, and Last time i checked those people are considered BLACK!
mrfreaknasssty 2 years ago
@mrfreaknasssty lol, at the time the term used in Spain for Sub-Saharans(negroids) was negro, just like it now is, and nope, you can see who moors were by looking at modern Moroccan people, Moor is a vague translation to the English of the word Moro, Moresco, Marrano, Jews and Arabs were called these, Turk Ottomans were called Moor too, and they are not black at all, actually, they are hard to difference from Eastern European peoples.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, Thanks for proving my point, if the Moors are hard to differentiate from the Eastern Europeans, then how could you tell them apart from the other Europeans? You can't. Unless there's a difference in skin color. 10 white guys from Europe, No one would stand out, except if you had BLACK Skin.
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty I'm not saying there weren't black Moors, all I'm saying is that Moors weren't a part of black history, well, they only thing they have in black history, is that they introduced the enslavement of Negroids to Europeans, that's about it.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 2
@Lucifer, The Europeans were practicing Slavery on themselves without the help of the Moors. In fact thats where the term Slavery comes from, SLAVS, who where made Slaves by other europeans and then that term became synonymous with the word Slavery. And if you pay attention to this GRAND MASTER SCHOLAR and watch the whole series on the Moors he will show and prove who they were and what the brought to europe. The MOORS(Blacks) Helped bring europe out of the DARK AGES with there technology.
mrfreaknasssty 2 years ago 2
@mrfreaknasssty Slavs are North Eastern Europeans, they were made slaves by the Romans, true, there was slavery before that, but slavery disappeared in a big part along with the Roman empire, Slavs were no longer servants, and no, MOOR DOES NOT MEAN BLACK, the Moor society was heterogeneous, Berber rulers, and sub Saharan warriors and slaves.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 2
@mrfreaknasssty and if you see well, the ones on start slavery on negroes in massive scale was the Arabs, they were buying slaves from the chiefs of the tribes long before Christian Europe did.
and this guy on the vid' talks about moors like there's no trace of them, THERE IS A LOT, even art of them, buildings still stand in Granada, the whole thing about moors is written among the reconquest era of Chrisitan Spain.
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 2
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, You just proved my point, you're saying that the Turk ottoman's and the eastern europeans were hard to differentiate so then how could you tell one apart from the other? So how could you tell who was a MOOR and who was not? Except for the color of there Skin.
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty jeesh, haven't gotten over it?
okay they were black, if that makes you happy!
want a cookie now?
Que tío tan intenso!
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, I know they were Black, you didn't have to tell me that. Dr Ivan Proves it beyond a shadow of doubt, Just want you to STOP spreading LIES. Thank you.
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty dude, get a life, seriously.
and you are trying to teach me my own culture, which is funny.
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, The Moors are NOT your culture. So what the HELL are you talking about? The Moors were described as BLACK, so you claiming that thats your culture is Very Funny.
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty I'm from Gibraltar you idiot!
how is that not my culture? you are a fucking Yank, why are you even talking?
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, I don't care where you're from if you're not BLACK then thats NOT YOUR CULTURE. As Dr. Ivan was saying @ 1:31 When the Spanish were defeating the MOORS a painting was done of the defeat and there was BLACK Generals surrendering, "What were the surrendering if they were Not in charge"? Watch the lecture again and learn something.
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty Moors were heterogeneous, there were black moors, there were Berber moors, saying that some Moors is right, but saying that Moors were black is a stupid statement. and the fact that I was born here, and my ancestors were directly affected by Moors in many way, makes it my culture, so deal with it!
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil
The other Moors come from mixture between the Africans and the Spainish women as well as the Arabs and the spanish women. All the spainish kingdoms had to pay 200 virgins annually. Now this happened a long time ago my friend but the fact remains that the word Moor was used to describe the black Africans they (Greeks and Romans) saw in Northwest Africa. It's not stupid. Moor comes from Maures meaning dark, black or swarthy. Black is the meaning of the word itself.
Alara0625 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil @ Lucifer, Again the Moors were 90% Black, and that's what the word Moor means(Black) in about 5 different languages. You ancestors were directly affected by the Moors, this is the only true statement that you made. The Moors helped raise your ancestors from the * DARK Ages into the LIGHT!
mrfreaknasssty 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty Say it again .... [In my PINKY off of Friday voice!] LOL!!!
SiriusMoor9 1 year ago
@mrfreaknasssty I like putting devils in their place, and to be honest with you I think this person knows what we are trying to say here is true but it easier to dis-inform or destroy than it is to inform or build for a greater good. If you were lied to all of these years you would be upset to find out the truth just like these people are. Lu The name Lucifer says it all.
groundpounder35 9 months ago
@luciferiexcelsil Your culture does not like talking about it so they distort the truth and yes you did come out of darkness that is how you were affected. The original Moors were black africans with some others. They became mixed or as you say heterogeneous after foolishly mixing with the european and adopting their or your ways into what was already a perfect system for the time. They grew soft and eventually corrupt. This lead to the downfall of us Moors.
groundpounder35 9 months ago
@mrfreaknasssty I humbly disagree with its not their culture. I am not on the side of a devil however it took darkskinned africans to bring these people into the light, All of the architecture, science, mathematics etc came from us the source and was shared with them. So I think it makes it part of their adopted then stolen culture just not the originators. I believe the painting he was referring to is entitled "La Rendición de Granada"or "Reconquista-rendicion-granada". "The reconquering."
groundpounder35 9 months ago
arent the amazigh decendents of Arab migrants just like current Egyptians? Over the course of ancient history. There have been migration and ethnic mixing. Imagine in the year 3000. People will think that whites were the first people in the Americas
archmoth 2 years ago 2
If u call Ivan Van Sertima an idiot guess what look in the mirror as*hole there's the IDIOT, Ivan (R.I.P) has brought consciousness to many who would've neva heard the truth if not for this great man, n I'm white but I agree with the EVIDENCE that he spoke the TRUTH, We all are African whether all the black or white people want to agree with that FACT or not, there's evidence its science, whites began with albino seed migrating and adapting to its environment, we all come from 1 mind
DivineThought1 2 years ago
The Moors are a great example of our African families that migrated to other parts of the world.
The Moors were Africans who build their own society and invested so much and to make us be so aware that Africans, we didn't depend on anyone, but onto our ownselves.
peasah2005 2 years ago
This wasn't an intelligent statement. A tree can not survive without it's roots.
McArthurAlbert 2 years ago
U must care about your ancestors unless you want your, children, grand children & great grand children to forget about your existence and not care. That karma will come back to you if you do not care. Not caring is the trait of the caucozoid, a man that is indigenous to no land on earth.
Avabz 2 years ago
im not up today with all of the abbreviations.
shylosworld78 2 years ago
that is so the truth. im with you on that thought!!!
shylosworld78 2 years ago
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I want to join this movement also...but im going to further educate myself this subject...BLESS DR. IVAN SERTIMA
stali28 2 years ago
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what Moorish Tribe does Ivan Van belong too because my grandma has Vann in her name?????
41fevaoaklandyada 2 years ago
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R.I.P. DR. Ivan Van Sertima
"We have come to reclaim the house of history. We are dedicated to the revision of the role of the African in the world's great civilizations, the contribution of Africa to the achievement of man in the arts and sciences. We shall emphasize what Africa has given to the world, not what it has lost."
--Ivan Van Sertima
keithexum 2 years ago
At 30 your nothing but a baby.
Texas903G 2 years ago
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Van Sertima was a Rutgers Professor. I was lucky enough to take one of his classes. The course I took was a full semester analysis of the book 'Invisible Man'. A truly enlightening experience.
thad99 3 years ago
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"...What I mean is this, I used to worship a certain Queens police murderer, till I heard the words of Ivan Van Sertima...." - Nas, We Are Not Alone
zakilahzulu 3 years ago
Isn't it great when assholes like Dennis open their stupid mouths?
Now put down the mouse you inbred jackass and back slowly away from the computer.
Or, if you're too stupid to do that, then at least put down your self-autographed copy of Mein Kampf and shut the f**k up.
Blacks were the Moors, people like you can't accept that you had nothing to do with the major movements of history. You see that blacks not whites were everywhere and your pea-brain can't accept it. Go shoot yourself already!
j1607760 3 years ago 23
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The moors in spain were not black, they were arab, berber and iberian converts. The armies that conquered the iberia was composed of arabs from syria, yemen and berbers from morocco.
Look at the pics of people from north africa, they are not black! and never were.
DennisTheMenace73 3 years ago
i just ordered his book "they came before columbus: the african presence in ancient america" last night! thanks for the post.
mszoe3000 4 years ago