@HavahdYahdHahrry LOL says the idiot that answered my previous question with another question. My jj sucks just as much as ya momz prolly does but lol we weren't talking about that till u brought it up. You abandoned the subject first when you made things personal. fail lol don't come at me wit that bullshit that you train bjj ROFL you're probably a fat ass who snacks on bacon while trolling on bjj videos. and Come on Harry, stick to your perscription glasses, Chanel makes you look femy.
@HavahdYahdHahrry lol... You can't win an arguement so you get mad and make everything personal all of a sudden? SoTrolled.. Take a chill pill, old man. Anyhow, I was speaking from a spectator's pov, take it easy. I'm sure you will give credit to where credit is due. P.S. You didn't have to delete all of your recent activity and stuff on your page. It just shows you're afraid of being answered. best of luck to you, mang.
@HavahdYahdHahrry I don't think 10th planet is better than the rest of bjj but I do think it's better for mma. That's all. Oh yeah and to give credit to where credit is due.
@HavahdYahdHahrry My bad, I meant to say looking down on the 10th Planet System. I know that No Gi is nothing new, and the 10th Planet is somewhat and that's part the reason why it's not taking the world by storm. That brings us back to the bjj community not accepting the system, they dont share it, so for it to take the world by storm that fast is a bit blurry. Man, with the new techniques added to the 10th system I'd like to see Eddie vs Royler now.
@HavahdYahdHahrry Who's looking down on who? Eddie Bravo pays homage to gi users but he thinks no gi is better for mma which is in fact one of the fastest growing sports today. So if anyone is looking down on anyone, it's those bjj instructors who use the gi looking down on the no gi system just because of whatever their reasons may be. So you want to talk about revolutionaries adding to jj like how the Gracies did you best count Eddie Bravo, Sean Bollinger, and Marcelo Garcia in.
@HavahdYahdHahrry Uhh... no they were actually trying and stiLL trying to reach out to the bjj community... it's just that "some people" don't like change.. or adaptation..
you guys that think jiu jitsu is not effective are dumb if you dont know jiu jitsu and you fall on the ground in a fight chances are you are not getting up and if you dont even train mma you should not even be talking trash about mma
hmm....id like to see rubber guard control a guy that outweighs you by 40 pounds of muscle....it doesnt, thats the problem, thats what defeats the whole purpose gracie jiujitsu was made for, however, it is effective in jiujitsu as a sport....
Actually, there is no problem. If you have the proper technique, the control will be there every time, doesn't matter how strong someone is. That's the entire point of grappling in general; to beat someone who is bigger than you. The Gracie system is the foundation, then Eddie and 10th planet built from it and made it even better.
@OffspringFTW65 LOl your an idiot.. Eddie brought up the rubber gaurd because bigger guys were crushing him. the rubber gaurd is very useful against bigger opponant.. if you havnt trained in ti then just stfu
@Brazilianjj Mhmm, because its in mma right now right? u know u see people setting up chilldog n shit,t he only time i saw even close to it was nate diaz and his gogoplata.....other than that never, nada, i have tried it and im flexible as hell, with long legs, i just dont find it fun or effective cuz u spend time just trying to control him in hope u can eventually set up some bullshit "jiuclaw"
@OffspringFTW65 any type of closed gaurd is hardley used in MMA.. closed gaurd is a bad idea in MMA, unless you can control him... alot of people dont use rubber gaurd cause 1... you gotta master it.. 2... you gotta be flexible. If your having problems using it like you say, that your not doing it right. practice more.. i have no problems controling people in my rubber gaurd.
@Brazilianjj yeah...controlling, go ahead and use it on someone on concrete.....what you are doing is developing your jiujitsu more and more onto a controlled environment, just so u can beat other jiujitsu guys who want to always be on top position, good luck trying to control a linebacker or some coked up gorilla with that phony shit.
@OffspringFTW65 I wouldnt use it on concrete you moron.. this is for sport. you are an idiot. If i was in a street fight and i was on my back id do my best to control the guy and sweep him, so im on top. And technique beats size every time.. being a linebacker has nothing to do with fighting you dipshit.. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA wow... what a dumb comment... go watch Pedro sauer vs Bodybuilder if you wanna see a tiny guy beat a HUGE guy.
@Brazilianjj i completely agree technique beats size but there is a difference between building sport technique and fundamental technique....like Helio's Philosophy, I guaruntee you Helio did not intend for Gracie Jiujitsu to include rubber guard, and footlocks, and all this other bullshit. Rubber Guard only works on people your size too...Fundamentals is what works on everybody, Why? because of the efficient levers. how dare you mistake me for a noob, actually convinced muscle wins everytime..
@OffspringFTW65 10th planet Jiujitsu does NOT follow Helio gracies "gracie jiujitsu"philosiphy. gracie jiujitsu is meant for self defence, 10th planet jiujitsu is meant for sport... although 90% of the techniques are the same in both... both also have different techniques, that the other doesnt...Repition builds muscle memory but that doesnt mean you will automatically do it... when people train in a sport, and compete in a different one, they ADAPT to the rules..same as in a street fight. ADAPT
@Brazilianjj because you have enough time to "ADAPT" to a street fight....yeah im pretty sure people dont schedule ahead of time so you may adapt to the environment you will be in when they punch you in the face...my point being that the rubber guard (developed by 10th planet) is purely sport jiujitsu and will not work effectively in a fight, especially on concrete. End of story, you jut agreed with me. I will nto reply to any more comments because they will be completely irrelevant.
@OffspringFTW65 Are you mentally handicapped?... wow.. lol Do you really think it takes more then a split second to realize (hey this is a street fight, i probably shouldnt do certain moves) and adapt. If not then your a retard. Im the one who said Rubber gaurd is for sport and not street you dumbass.. holy shit your an idiot... I fucking told you 10th planet is aimed twords sport.. and Gracie jiujitsu is aimed twords street, but your to retarded to comprehend what i said.
@Brazilianjj I think that Jiu jitsu itself can be divided into sport or street...one can train gi for sport or street and nogi for sport or street...Gi techniques lend themselves to many street altercations (many of which have clothing involved) but no-gi techniques will work on anyone anytime....a self defense course would incorporate elements of jiu jitsu among many other styles, and I don't want to train eye-gouging and nut-kicks, so I train 10th planet for sport...
@OffspringFTW65 You act like it takes hours to ADAPT to the difference of a street fight and a sport..Jiujitsu in general is very useful in a street fight... though some techniques would NOT be a good idea to use. if your to retarded to know what works and what doesnt work in a real fight, cause apperently YOU cant adapt fast enough to know the difference, then you probably deserve to get your ass kicked.
@OffspringFTW65 Also, Rubber gaurd CAN be used in a street fight. it leaves one of your hands free which you can throw elbows.. Now im guessing your gonna say (he will just pick you up and slam you) and i would expect a comment like that from someone with downsyndrome(you). If he begins to try to pick you up, you either A:grab his legs for a sweep.. or B: LET GO OF RUBBER GAURD. its not that hard, but your too dumb apperently.
@Brazilianjj What at all makes me retarded in this, all this has been lately is u repeating what iv said, but then throwing random uncalled for insults....Honestly, id expect insults from someone that loses every tournament, or hasnt even competed once yet....If you were a winner, youd be confident in your skills and wouldn't be opressing me over my doubts of your methods. This has lead me to the conclusion you have absolutely no grasp on what being a champion is truly like....
@OffspringFTW65 "This has lead me to the conclusion you have absolutely no grasp on what being a champion is truly like...." this conversation has nothing to do with "being a champion" again your an idiot. The conversation is about the effectiveness of the rubber gaurd and 10th planet Jiujitsu. But hey, if your do stupid to realize what would and would not be smart to use by time your in a fight, then thats on you kid.
@Brazilianjj wrongg.... rubber gaurd is good in a street fight... BECAUSE most likley your fighting a retard that wont know what to do so you can easily snake around get a omoplata break it.... get a armbar break it... get a triangle bows and nap... and if he posts up to slam you thats why you have your foot on his thigh applying pressure so when he stands up u kick it out.. worse comes to worse u have to let go
@OffspringFTW65 Your statement of "because you have enough time to "ADAPT" to a street fight....yeah im pretty sure people dont schedule ahead of time so you may adapt to the environment " just shows how dumb you are.. When you get in a fight do you really sit there and go.. hmmm how can i adapt to this fight...? if so thats sad. if you cant think in a split second of what to do, then you have some kind of mental disability.
@evolvedb4u If I had someone in rubber guard in a street fight I would use it to hold him there and elbow him over and over...a triangle choke in the street may end with a powerbomb...a powerbomb on the street usually ends in death or paralysis...
@Brazilianjj seconding that....I've let go of locked in triangles when someone picked me up before...letting go of rubber guard is quick and easy if you get picked up...
@OffspringFTW65 My two cents? of course I'll give them to you! I wouldn't pull guard in a street fight...I wouldn't be thinking, "how do I get this guy into rubber guard"...but if I ended up on my back and this dude wants to keep going, I can definitely control his posture with a rubber guard and drop some elbows in there...I think most JJ guys would go for an armbar right out of guard in a street-fight in guard, but when you are already on your back rubberguard isn't irrelevant...
@Brazilianjj and once again, if you are so "experienced" in jiujitsu you should know that with repitition comes muscle memory, now what happens when your first instinct is to pull ur leg over the guys head and hold on while mr linebacker uses his power cleaning method to slam you....because thats all the guy can do, but u will be dead. Eddie Bravo created rubber guard specifically cuz it works in sport jiujitsu, with his body type...its an asset to keep his body that flexible so he can use RG
@OffspringFTW65 well..."just so you can beat other jiu jitsu guys who want to always be on top"...wtf? jiu jitsu is MOST different from other grappling systems for it's "Don't mind being on bottom" fighting style...what is this supposed to mean? a wrestler will "always want to be on top" a jiu jitsu guy is the last one to raise his hand when you ask, "who wants to ALWAYS be on top?" Additionally, if I've learned anything from jiu jitsu, it's that, linebacker or not, coke or not were all fragile
@OffspringFTW65 I didn't mean to suggest the mount position is not the most advantageous, but that in jiu jitsu it's not like you deal with guys who always want to be on top...I can spend a whole night rolling with dudes who pull guard...the rubber guard isn't the plan in a street fight, but if you DO have to control a coked out gorilla who's still coming after he knocked you down (or you fell or whatever) you need a tight guard...your spine might be raked, but you can survive/win...
@Brazilianjj also...just because something hasn't been used yet doesn't mean it won't...up until 2010 noone had used a peruvian necktie in popular or mainstream mma comp...before last weekend noone had ever used a twister in popular or mainstream mma...soon we may be seeing wing chung...probly not but you get the point...we will see some effective rubber guard use in mma, already amateurs are using it to immobilize opponents and drop elbows inthere...
@OffspringFTW65 also, you don't have to go to jiu claw, but if your rolling with seasoned jiu jitsu players (or even my whitebelt ass) you can't omaplata without more leverage/control than your likely to get from jiu claw position, so it's mainly a sweep, but will dangle someones arm out if they don't somersault out...so, what im saying is that the jiu claw is only one of several options out of mission control, and with jiu claw you can end it or end up on top. its not RG's fault you struggled..
i wish i would have started bjj when i was young. i started it when i was 14 im 15 now. i almost have my green belt. (my gym does green, blue,purple,brown,black)
Once that kid has his right hand on the mat it was over. Straight to rubber guard. Straight control and all that. Looked like a lil Bravo hitting it so fast
wow is he realy 6??? he looked like he was at least 10 moving like that.....very skilled for his age, allthough every now and then you get that one kid that can be great....
that is the most stupid thing i have ever read i think....yep. WTF are you talking about making a living over??LOL just cuz you do a martial art doesnt mean yur gonna be a professional grappler or in the fucking UFC. maybe he just enjoyed JJ you fucking tard.
I like all the people criticizing on here. I bet if YOU were in the tournament you'd do this and that properly etc...well fuck, why don't YOU join a grappling tournament and do it, instead of picking on a kid showing great skill at a young age. Just cause you watch UFC doesn't make you an expert.
@rush381 good points dude... about time someone stepped up for the kid...
were there problems with his rubber guard form... yeah he had a few miss grabs while working for mission control.... is he ahead on 80% of the world's grapplers in his foundation and execution... yes....
The kid got the submition and did it with style... knew when to pull guard against a bigger adversary then controlled him on the ground and won.... those of facts and anyone trying to take this away from the kid is wrong
@rush381 dude omg exactly i hate people who watch ufc and think they know jiu jitsu, its funny watching cocky mother fuckers come to the gym and get there asses beat xD
@rush381 some people commenting do go to tournaments sooo yeah... and no ufc does not make you an expert i am currently a gracie barra student but not even im an expert =/ and i agree with you you can say that you would do this and that but when it comes down to it can you? but you are pretty much saying that the people who make bad comments do not go into tournaments but that is not true, when i comment i post constructive criticism
@arctrooper86 So you go to tournaments, great. Then you should appreciate the skills of a kid who is showing great technique at such a young age. I'm saying chances are, the people criticizing don't actually understand the sport. At 6 years old I'd be willing to bet 99% of people commenting in this thread weren't doing that kind of shit. Give the kid some credit.
@rush381 absolutely...the one kids armbar defense came quite naturally and both of those kids were decent players already...I haven't read any of he criticisms but we all know the guys who critique 8 year olds....losers.
this kid is fucking crazy.... anyone who knows anything about rubber guard knows you need extreme flexibility .... this kid can do it soooo well, god... hes gonna be huge when hes older
i tried that too in a fight, but he slammed me so i hurt my back but i was still able to hold the position. If you can take the pain from a slam it's awesome!
Wow weak rubber guard I could totally tap this kid out.......come on guys it's just a kid! It's cool to see kids getting into the great sport of jiu-jitsu so early on. His technique has flaws but seriously he can't be more than 10 or 11, what do you expect? At this rate he could be a black belt before he's even an adult.
it doesnt really look like rubber guard was his concern. just looks more like he was using it to control the kid to set up the angle for his triangle, it just didn't seem to pan out since he ended up doing the triangle straight on. if you have to pull down on the head, you're not at a good enough angle =P
just cuz you CAN do it doesn't mean it isn't sloppy. the "best" in MMA also cup their hand on the back of their opponent's head when doing the rear naked choke... which is also a sloppy way of doing it. just saying... you know your triangle is correct if you can lock your legs and just lay there, count to 3, and they tap from blood choke without touching their head once
that was fantastic!!! Its so great to watch kids have fun at such an influencial sport!!! Im teaching a couple kids rubber guard right now and its just so amazing on how well they really pick up rubber guard! Great video, great win, great rubber guard to triangle!
everyone cries "you need striking game you needa take em down" FUCK THAT start the fight in guard lmao. let him try to kick you, grab his ankle, twist it! or sweep him, LOLL so easy... and even so, if your good at keepin your chin down to ur chest, just fukin spear him down so he cant gullitine, then do an escape, then go to mount, then do w/e, pwned.
"if u took 2 people....1 person learning bjj and the other learning wrestling for the same amount of time the bjj guy would win every time in a fight" That is a stupid statment the style of fighting you practice doesn't make it better its how you apply it.
thats a dead argument, you can practice useless shitty styles, that leaves a talented fighter with a lot of talent. Say hypothetically Person A is a professional boxer, person B trains in Monkey lotus exploding mega fist(which does not have sparring, or live training or conditioning). Anyone can tell you A will win.
if u took 2 people....1 person learning bjj and the other learning wrestling for the same amount of time the bjj guy would win every time in a fight if there was not striking involved
Judo?? The ultimate in take downs.. They train all day at throwing.. Wrestlers in MMA have had to learn Jujitsu to even compete.If u aint got a guard game, u dead in minutes.Best thing about wrestling for mma is the sprawling and take down defense..
U are right tho.. Gotta get them on the ground first.
I train JJJ not BJJ , its got stand up and ground game, throws and takedowns and also all the defense u need in any area..
Which is why I didn't reply with in a spiteful way;-P. This IS the youtube commentary section, with 99% retarded people. But I'm glad I gave you the benefit of a doubt:-)
no i see what jbhoyah's saying, sure you can kill anyone who doesn't grapple one on one, with little effort, but i think what he's reffering to is if their are other people around who also wanna kick the shit out of you, u don't wann be on the ground because while your choking idiot#1 idiot#2 is kicking you in the face, of course if their are more than two peopel attcking you ur best bet is to run anyway, so it's kind of a moot point
I'm still a bit weirded by kids subbing eachother. I do prefer the judo way of just holds until a certain age. If you're eight and fightin in the playground you shoiuldn't be choking people on conscious.That's not a skillset you should have. My dad taught me chokes when I was a young judo-er and I hurt my sister.
wow, to be doing bjj as a kid would be friggin awesome. and they know the shit too!.
man... im glad all those old martial arts doctrines finally have the holes exposed. wow, one day i could be takin my kids to bjj practice in a mini-van. The times they are a changin'.
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BJJ isn't the end all be all of Martial arts, kid. It's great sport, I enjoy practicing it and competing but I would never in fucking YEARS break it out in the street, fuck that shit. ALL martial arts have "holes" in their doctrine, BJJ is no different. It's a retarded Self Defense especially in a street situation, I mean a REAL street fight, not a 1 on 1 decided match between idiots, which is all it's good for. As competition, fuck yeah, I love doing BJJ, it's like human chess.
u dont know shit,no gi bjj has no holes, maybe room for improvement like everything else. ive used bjj in fights several times. its the truth, how can you not see that, this is the most functional martial art there has ever been. it doesnt involve striking, because you dont have to learn how to strike, its easy. the best and most functional strikes are the easiest ones.
BJJ has holes, all martial arts has holes. Please educate yourself. While chokes and locks are great, you still need a myriad of striking techniques to win a street fight. In addition street fights aren't usually 1 v 1 so ground techniques are rather useless. You cannot judge a martial art simply by seeing it dominate in a certain fight event k-1.ufc. each of these categories is designed for a certain fighting style. While the octagon is spacious, there is still space limitation for strikers.
other martial arts are dont require as much time and mastery as some people try to attain. you obviously know very little to say you would never break it out in the "street". why attack a comment that was in no way offensive with all that insulting shit you just put down. getting somebody to the ground is easy, and instinctive. if somebody is hiting you; instinctively you grab them. thats when the fight goes to the ground. that is why bjj is effective in a "street" fight.
BJJ doesn't account for head butting, groan grabbing,eye gouging, and biting (all the cheap stuff). All of which could be considered holes in doctrine. But with all that considered I still think BJJ is the best thing to learn at a young age because it requires so many years to master, with Bj Penn being an exception.
thcs for sharing..kids rule MOre please.. great influence ta the older MEN of this sport. The heart of a child becomes strong in its teaching be it sports,education or religion lets raise them well and wise>:) MMa all the wayYYyyyy..
pretty crazy to see little kids with good technique, you wouldnt think they would have the patience to learn such things, .. heh they probably have some crazy parents who force them to fight all the time
that was awesome. this sport is about to get huuuuuuuuuuge
thetruthlaw 3 months ago
sick
henneburymarc 5 months ago
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SatanistTV 6 months ago
man kids are so flexible at this age great for the rubber guard
y2taner 6 months ago
whats with all these people whove never met in real life telling each other their jiu jitsu is weak
l3054 7 months ago
This is so scary man oO
Who is this kid
He works the guard like a veteran so fast so technically
agoc 8 months ago
is it bad to say that i kinda hope every1 who dislikes this video should die slowly while on fire?
eddiereyes1988 8 months ago
Not really rubber guard but a nice triangle.
MrMZaccone 8 months ago
This kid could kick my ass and I'm 18... *commits suicide*
alexm005 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry lol bacon muscle rofl
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry LOL says the idiot that answered my previous question with another question. My jj sucks just as much as ya momz prolly does but lol we weren't talking about that till u brought it up. You abandoned the subject first when you made things personal. fail lol don't come at me wit that bullshit that you train bjj ROFL you're probably a fat ass who snacks on bacon while trolling on bjj videos. and Come on Harry, stick to your perscription glasses, Chanel makes you look femy.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry not what yo momma said bro rofl she said I was great.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry lol UMADBRO?
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry lol... You can't win an arguement so you get mad and make everything personal all of a sudden? SoTrolled.. Take a chill pill, old man. Anyhow, I was speaking from a spectator's pov, take it easy. I'm sure you will give credit to where credit is due. P.S. You didn't have to delete all of your recent activity and stuff on your page. It just shows you're afraid of being answered. best of luck to you, mang.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry I don't think 10th planet is better than the rest of bjj but I do think it's better for mma. That's all. Oh yeah and to give credit to where credit is due.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry My bad, I meant to say looking down on the 10th Planet System. I know that No Gi is nothing new, and the 10th Planet is somewhat and that's part the reason why it's not taking the world by storm. That brings us back to the bjj community not accepting the system, they dont share it, so for it to take the world by storm that fast is a bit blurry. Man, with the new techniques added to the 10th system I'd like to see Eddie vs Royler now.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry Who's looking down on who? Eddie Bravo pays homage to gi users but he thinks no gi is better for mma which is in fact one of the fastest growing sports today. So if anyone is looking down on anyone, it's those bjj instructors who use the gi looking down on the no gi system just because of whatever their reasons may be. So you want to talk about revolutionaries adding to jj like how the Gracies did you best count Eddie Bravo, Sean Bollinger, and Marcelo Garcia in.
Mickillzall 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry Uhh... no they were actually trying and stiLL trying to reach out to the bjj community... it's just that "some people" don't like change.. or adaptation..
Mickillzall 9 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry m chill bro..... he did a tri angle from rubber guard.... in the gi no less :P ....
fcuk4220 9 months ago
The title should be changed to Triangle Choke from Nino Schembri Rubber Guard
ms1454 10 months ago 9
this kids gunna fuck ppl up when hes older
MCM5595 1 year ago
how flexible will these kids be?!?!
Nitsujbrown 1 year ago
WTF THEIR TECHNIQUE IS TOO GOOD
SelfDefenseLog 1 year ago
that was awesome. talented kid
nicholasaboe 1 year ago
awsome!!!!
Great vid and the kid is awsome
Mochoe 1 year ago
damn
dgwong 1 year ago
rubber guard is da shit!
piratebri 1 year ago
damn that kid got skills
nezza23 1 year ago
you guys that think jiu jitsu is not effective are dumb if you dont know jiu jitsu and you fall on the ground in a fight chances are you are not getting up and if you dont even train mma you should not even be talking trash about mma
bobblurp 1 year ago
hmm....id like to see rubber guard control a guy that outweighs you by 40 pounds of muscle....it doesnt, thats the problem, thats what defeats the whole purpose gracie jiujitsu was made for, however, it is effective in jiujitsu as a sport....
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 and double wrist control gives you the control?
kevinreyesgibbs 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 blah blah blah, fuck up already
Evilde4d4sh 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65
Actually, there is no problem. If you have the proper technique, the control will be there every time, doesn't matter how strong someone is. That's the entire point of grappling in general; to beat someone who is bigger than you. The Gracie system is the foundation, then Eddie and 10th planet built from it and made it even better.
skspartan117 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 LOl your an idiot.. Eddie brought up the rubber gaurd because bigger guys were crushing him. the rubber gaurd is very useful against bigger opponant.. if you havnt trained in ti then just stfu
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj Mhmm, because its in mma right now right? u know u see people setting up chilldog n shit,t he only time i saw even close to it was nate diaz and his gogoplata.....other than that never, nada, i have tried it and im flexible as hell, with long legs, i just dont find it fun or effective cuz u spend time just trying to control him in hope u can eventually set up some bullshit "jiuclaw"
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 any type of closed gaurd is hardley used in MMA.. closed gaurd is a bad idea in MMA, unless you can control him... alot of people dont use rubber gaurd cause 1... you gotta master it.. 2... you gotta be flexible. If your having problems using it like you say, that your not doing it right. practice more.. i have no problems controling people in my rubber gaurd.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj yeah...controlling, go ahead and use it on someone on concrete.....what you are doing is developing your jiujitsu more and more onto a controlled environment, just so u can beat other jiujitsu guys who want to always be on top position, good luck trying to control a linebacker or some coked up gorilla with that phony shit.
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 I wouldnt use it on concrete you moron.. this is for sport. you are an idiot. If i was in a street fight and i was on my back id do my best to control the guy and sweep him, so im on top. And technique beats size every time.. being a linebacker has nothing to do with fighting you dipshit.. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA wow... what a dumb comment... go watch Pedro sauer vs Bodybuilder if you wanna see a tiny guy beat a HUGE guy.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj i completely agree technique beats size but there is a difference between building sport technique and fundamental technique....like Helio's Philosophy, I guaruntee you Helio did not intend for Gracie Jiujitsu to include rubber guard, and footlocks, and all this other bullshit. Rubber Guard only works on people your size too...Fundamentals is what works on everybody, Why? because of the efficient levers. how dare you mistake me for a noob, actually convinced muscle wins everytime..
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 10th planet Jiujitsu does NOT follow Helio gracies "gracie jiujitsu"philosiphy. gracie jiujitsu is meant for self defence, 10th planet jiujitsu is meant for sport... although 90% of the techniques are the same in both... both also have different techniques, that the other doesnt...Repition builds muscle memory but that doesnt mean you will automatically do it... when people train in a sport, and compete in a different one, they ADAPT to the rules..same as in a street fight. ADAPT
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj because you have enough time to "ADAPT" to a street fight....yeah im pretty sure people dont schedule ahead of time so you may adapt to the environment you will be in when they punch you in the face...my point being that the rubber guard (developed by 10th planet) is purely sport jiujitsu and will not work effectively in a fight, especially on concrete. End of story, you jut agreed with me. I will nto reply to any more comments because they will be completely irrelevant.
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 Are you mentally handicapped?... wow.. lol Do you really think it takes more then a split second to realize (hey this is a street fight, i probably shouldnt do certain moves) and adapt. If not then your a retard. Im the one who said Rubber gaurd is for sport and not street you dumbass.. holy shit your an idiot... I fucking told you 10th planet is aimed twords sport.. and Gracie jiujitsu is aimed twords street, but your to retarded to comprehend what i said.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj I think that Jiu jitsu itself can be divided into sport or street...one can train gi for sport or street and nogi for sport or street...Gi techniques lend themselves to many street altercations (many of which have clothing involved) but no-gi techniques will work on anyone anytime....a self defense course would incorporate elements of jiu jitsu among many other styles, and I don't want to train eye-gouging and nut-kicks, so I train 10th planet for sport...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@OffspringFTW65 You act like it takes hours to ADAPT to the difference of a street fight and a sport..Jiujitsu in general is very useful in a street fight... though some techniques would NOT be a good idea to use. if your to retarded to know what works and what doesnt work in a real fight, cause apperently YOU cant adapt fast enough to know the difference, then you probably deserve to get your ass kicked.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 Also, Rubber gaurd CAN be used in a street fight. it leaves one of your hands free which you can throw elbows.. Now im guessing your gonna say (he will just pick you up and slam you) and i would expect a comment like that from someone with downsyndrome(you). If he begins to try to pick you up, you either A:grab his legs for a sweep.. or B: LET GO OF RUBBER GAURD. its not that hard, but your too dumb apperently.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj What at all makes me retarded in this, all this has been lately is u repeating what iv said, but then throwing random uncalled for insults....Honestly, id expect insults from someone that loses every tournament, or hasnt even competed once yet....If you were a winner, youd be confident in your skills and wouldn't be opressing me over my doubts of your methods. This has lead me to the conclusion you have absolutely no grasp on what being a champion is truly like....
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 "This has lead me to the conclusion you have absolutely no grasp on what being a champion is truly like...." this conversation has nothing to do with "being a champion" again your an idiot. The conversation is about the effectiveness of the rubber gaurd and 10th planet Jiujitsu. But hey, if your do stupid to realize what would and would not be smart to use by time your in a fight, then thats on you kid.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj wrongg.... rubber gaurd is good in a street fight... BECAUSE most likley your fighting a retard that wont know what to do so you can easily snake around get a omoplata break it.... get a armbar break it... get a triangle bows and nap... and if he posts up to slam you thats why you have your foot on his thigh applying pressure so when he stands up u kick it out.. worse comes to worse u have to let go
MCM5595 1 year ago
@MCM5595 and when he stands and you kick that leg you got your sweep...NOW things look a little more traditional...GnP....
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
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@OffspringFTW65 Your statement of "because you have enough time to "ADAPT" to a street fight....yeah im pretty sure people dont schedule ahead of time so you may adapt to the environment " just shows how dumb you are.. When you get in a fight do you really sit there and go.. hmmm how can i adapt to this fight...? if so thats sad. if you cant think in a split second of what to do, then you have some kind of mental disability.
Brazilianjj 1 year ago
@Brazilianjj
You think Rubber Gaurd would confuse/fool a guy on the street...like a trap? "What the hell is this guy doing..." then lights out?
I tend to think that the novice would have no idea what is going on and then boom...
evolvedb4u 11 months ago
@evolvedb4u If I had someone in rubber guard in a street fight I would use it to hold him there and elbow him over and over...a triangle choke in the street may end with a powerbomb...a powerbomb on the street usually ends in death or paralysis...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@Brazilianjj seconding that....I've let go of locked in triangles when someone picked me up before...letting go of rubber guard is quick and easy if you get picked up...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@OffspringFTW65 My two cents? of course I'll give them to you! I wouldn't pull guard in a street fight...I wouldn't be thinking, "how do I get this guy into rubber guard"...but if I ended up on my back and this dude wants to keep going, I can definitely control his posture with a rubber guard and drop some elbows in there...I think most JJ guys would go for an armbar right out of guard in a street-fight in guard, but when you are already on your back rubberguard isn't irrelevant...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@Brazilianjj and once again, if you are so "experienced" in jiujitsu you should know that with repitition comes muscle memory, now what happens when your first instinct is to pull ur leg over the guys head and hold on while mr linebacker uses his power cleaning method to slam you....because thats all the guy can do, but u will be dead. Eddie Bravo created rubber guard specifically cuz it works in sport jiujitsu, with his body type...its an asset to keep his body that flexible so he can use RG
OffspringFTW65 1 year ago
@OffspringFTW65 well..."just so you can beat other jiu jitsu guys who want to always be on top"...wtf? jiu jitsu is MOST different from other grappling systems for it's "Don't mind being on bottom" fighting style...what is this supposed to mean? a wrestler will "always want to be on top" a jiu jitsu guy is the last one to raise his hand when you ask, "who wants to ALWAYS be on top?" Additionally, if I've learned anything from jiu jitsu, it's that, linebacker or not, coke or not were all fragile
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@MrPhrogphurter I dunno bout you but id always wanna be in mount in a street fight situation, and always on top 0.0
OffspringFTW65 11 months ago
@OffspringFTW65 I didn't mean to suggest the mount position is not the most advantageous, but that in jiu jitsu it's not like you deal with guys who always want to be on top...I can spend a whole night rolling with dudes who pull guard...the rubber guard isn't the plan in a street fight, but if you DO have to control a coked out gorilla who's still coming after he knocked you down (or you fell or whatever) you need a tight guard...your spine might be raked, but you can survive/win...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@Brazilianjj also...just because something hasn't been used yet doesn't mean it won't...up until 2010 noone had used a peruvian necktie in popular or mainstream mma comp...before last weekend noone had ever used a twister in popular or mainstream mma...soon we may be seeing wing chung...probly not but you get the point...we will see some effective rubber guard use in mma, already amateurs are using it to immobilize opponents and drop elbows inthere...
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@OffspringFTW65 also, you don't have to go to jiu claw, but if your rolling with seasoned jiu jitsu players (or even my whitebelt ass) you can't omaplata without more leverage/control than your likely to get from jiu claw position, so it's mainly a sweep, but will dangle someones arm out if they don't somersault out...so, what im saying is that the jiu claw is only one of several options out of mission control, and with jiu claw you can end it or end up on top. its not RG's fault you struggled..
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
@MrPhrogphurter no its simply im not strong enough and their isnt enough leverage to make up for it........which is my point :P
OffspringFTW65 11 months ago
im speechless...
Hayashirice911 1 year ago
that other kid is under saulo ribeiro?
mrdavidpatrickcase 1 year ago
i wish i would have started bjj when i was young. i started it when i was 14 im 15 now. i almost have my green belt. (my gym does green, blue,purple,brown,black)
sweetswantonbombs 1 year ago
@sweetswantonbombs yeah, my gym does green belts too.
NinjaWarriorDude 1 year ago
Kids gonna be a fuckin beast. More than he is already
overthehill91 1 year ago
kids got talent...very impressive guard right there.
MocsoN23 1 year ago
is that JT Torres
graciehunter100 1 year ago
damn lol i just got good and this kid has most of my moves damn i should trained earlier
surgicalops 1 year ago
Once that kid has his right hand on the mat it was over. Straight to rubber guard. Straight control and all that. Looked like a lil Bravo hitting it so fast
gsmooth18 1 year ago
damn.... that kid is awesome haha
kappkids 1 year ago
what belt is he on?
Kocollings 1 year ago
He's got some pimpin moves for a little kid, it's great to see youngsters getting involved in bjj.
joshharrop2 1 year ago
really good job that kids got skills im really impressed he knows the game pretty good for his age! nice job!
putyourweedup 1 year ago
great guard ... very impressed
mmajayball 2 years ago
Nice.... text book stuff right there
Millzy20 2 years ago
that kids guna be a stright thug when hes older
og4sure 2 years ago
I love how Dean just remains composed the entire time, you can tell the black kid is just trying to figure out what to do next!
yellowtaipan 2 years ago
Tuff Kid!! I Proud of him!
catoon95 2 years ago
That was awsome
FuckingBoozer 2 years ago 2
yeeaahh!!!
seronepk 2 years ago
lol this is scary kids being this good at there age! cant imagine what they will b like when there older
rickys162 2 years ago 47
@rickys162 smoking crack
poopalover 1 year ago
@rickys162 for real huh! these kids r more technical than me lol
81CCCP90 7 months ago
wow is he realy 6??? he looked like he was at least 10 moving like that.....very skilled for his age, allthough every now and then you get that one kid that can be great....
AlexAbatecola1 2 years ago
Future Welterweight Champion! hahaa very skilled 4 his age he would've kicked the fuckin shit out of when i was 6 hahaa Good job little buddy haha
dimidavdad 2 years ago
Pretty awesome 6 year old, good job!
Teawithlee 2 years ago
that is the most stupid thing i have ever read i think....yep. WTF are you talking about making a living over??LOL just cuz you do a martial art doesnt mean yur gonna be a professional grappler or in the fucking UFC. maybe he just enjoyed JJ you fucking tard.
runninfoo6 2 years ago 5
I like all the people criticizing on here. I bet if YOU were in the tournament you'd do this and that properly etc...well fuck, why don't YOU join a grappling tournament and do it, instead of picking on a kid showing great skill at a young age. Just cause you watch UFC doesn't make you an expert.
rush381 2 years ago 65
@rush381 I agree...... all these guys talking shit are like expert swimmers that never got in the water lol
joniswolfman 1 year ago
@rush381 good points dude... about time someone stepped up for the kid...
were there problems with his rubber guard form... yeah he had a few miss grabs while working for mission control.... is he ahead on 80% of the world's grapplers in his foundation and execution... yes....
The kid got the submition and did it with style... knew when to pull guard against a bigger adversary then controlled him on the ground and won.... those of facts and anyone trying to take this away from the kid is wrong
ArkAngelHFB 1 year ago
@rush381 dude omg exactly i hate people who watch ufc and think they know jiu jitsu, its funny watching cocky mother fuckers come to the gym and get there asses beat xD
XxPhillipXxx 1 year ago
@rush381 some people commenting do go to tournaments sooo yeah... and no ufc does not make you an expert i am currently a gracie barra student but not even im an expert =/ and i agree with you you can say that you would do this and that but when it comes down to it can you? but you are pretty much saying that the people who make bad comments do not go into tournaments but that is not true, when i comment i post constructive criticism
arctrooper86 11 months ago
@arctrooper86 So you go to tournaments, great. Then you should appreciate the skills of a kid who is showing great technique at such a young age. I'm saying chances are, the people criticizing don't actually understand the sport. At 6 years old I'd be willing to bet 99% of people commenting in this thread weren't doing that kind of shit. Give the kid some credit.
rush381 11 months ago 3
@rush381 absolutely...the one kids armbar defense came quite naturally and both of those kids were decent players already...I haven't read any of he criticisms but we all know the guys who critique 8 year olds....losers.
MrPhrogphurter 11 months ago
I was cheering for the black kid
TheSenseofTouch 2 years ago 3
this kid is fucking crazy.... anyone who knows anything about rubber guard knows you need extreme flexibility .... this kid can do it soooo well, god... hes gonna be huge when hes older
freesalesman 2 years ago
That's awesome, good for him.!
eleventhsun 2 years ago
ummm...he's like fuckin 8 years old lol. Give em a break tough guy
DanHipp 2 years ago
muleke cabuloso maneh
luciobh 2 years ago
i tried that too in a fight, but he slammed me so i hurt my back but i was still able to hold the position. If you can take the pain from a slam it's awesome!
DownO89 2 years ago
Little buggers, imagine how good they will be when they are 15.
azwaone 2 years ago 4
wow impressive for a little guy
beast52084 2 years ago
nice this kid has some true potential nice work
tcjpw3 2 years ago
Lol, this kid has potential, he showed a lot of knowledge for someone his age.
You guys should cut him a break, he's what ten?
xeogen 2 years ago
That kid showed good knowledge and skill for someone his age, brilliant!
keelanwalker 2 years ago 2
he had his legs backwards for a little while there.
irritatedpsycho 2 years ago
Wow weak rubber guard I could totally tap this kid out.......come on guys it's just a kid! It's cool to see kids getting into the great sport of jiu-jitsu so early on. His technique has flaws but seriously he can't be more than 10 or 11, what do you expect? At this rate he could be a black belt before he's even an adult.
getthetapjj 3 years ago
yea, u cant expect kids to fight lyk adults. hes talented
yuenj01 2 years ago 6
The kid's rubber guard was sloppy, but its just a kid.
Bjjownsu10 3 years ago
it doesnt really look like rubber guard was his concern. just looks more like he was using it to control the kid to set up the angle for his triangle, it just didn't seem to pan out since he ended up doing the triangle straight on. if you have to pull down on the head, you're not at a good enough angle =P
SJHunter86 3 years ago
If you pull down on the head and get the tap, then its all good. Even the best fighters in MMA still pull heads down.
pr0n3 3 years ago 5
just cuz you CAN do it doesn't mean it isn't sloppy. the "best" in MMA also cup their hand on the back of their opponent's head when doing the rear naked choke... which is also a sloppy way of doing it. just saying... you know your triangle is correct if you can lock your legs and just lay there, count to 3, and they tap from blood choke without touching their head once
SJHunter86 3 years ago
how is putting the non choking arm behind the opponents head in a rnc the wrong way? thats the exact way your supposed to.
LouhMaylin 2 years ago
you do know the title of this video is "triangle choke" not "rear naked choke" right?
SJHunter86 2 years ago
yea i do so what the hell did YOU bring up the rear naked? hmmm good question to ponder there mary
LouhMaylin 2 years ago
@pr0n3 pulling the head down is used to end it quicker, or if the choke isnt tight enough.
zack3c 1 year ago
that was fantastic!!! Its so great to watch kids have fun at such an influencial sport!!! Im teaching a couple kids rubber guard right now and its just so amazing on how well they really pick up rubber guard! Great video, great win, great rubber guard to triangle!
ESBjiuJitsu 3 years ago 2
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That kid never had the rubber guard.
Dexerion 3 years ago
are you sure you know what the rubber guard is?
look starting around 40 or 45 seconds in, he works the rubber guard for about 25 seconds before sinking in the triangle.
TACOINSURANCE 3 years ago 2
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lil kids a baddasssssssssssssss
ACEOFTHEBLITZ 3 years ago
Damn. That's impressive.
drumsfightingandstuf 3 years ago
everyone cries "you need striking game you needa take em down" FUCK THAT start the fight in guard lmao. let him try to kick you, grab his ankle, twist it! or sweep him, LOLL so easy... and even so, if your good at keepin your chin down to ur chest, just fukin spear him down so he cant gullitine, then do an escape, then go to mount, then do w/e, pwned.
bobert007 3 years ago
You can't get a blue,purple,brown, or black belt until you turn 16. He probably had a green belt.
jamout777 3 years ago
you cant get a black belt under any ibjjf school till you are 19 or older
phamax111 3 years ago
wow does that kid have a black belt?? the kid that won? it might be blue i cant tell
WatchMeDropem 3 years ago
tourny belt
sad18240 2 years ago
wow... it was all Chess from the beginning of te match.
rickyhurtado 3 years ago
these kids are good.
souljacookiekid 3 years ago
like how at :31 ref is always looking away. way to go ref. Probably lookin at some chick
aper422 3 years ago
these kids are awesome
ValeTudochannel 3 years ago 2
"if u took 2 people....1 person learning bjj and the other learning wrestling for the same amount of time the bjj guy would win every time in a fight" That is a stupid statment the style of fighting you practice doesn't make it better its how you apply it.
TaiMantisJake 3 years ago
thats a dead argument, you can practice useless shitty styles, that leaves a talented fighter with a lot of talent. Say hypothetically Person A is a professional boxer, person B trains in Monkey lotus exploding mega fist(which does not have sparring, or live training or conditioning). Anyone can tell you A will win.
wolfmoonwatcher 3 years ago
if u took 2 people....1 person learning bjj and the other learning wrestling for the same amount of time the bjj guy would win every time in a fight if there was not striking involved
skatinondaytons 3 years ago
a combo of bjj and muay thai are the best to learn
skatinondaytons 3 years ago
...... no
its Wrestling as a base, Boxing and then Muy thai with a solid knowledge of how jujitsu works
andrew7913 3 years ago
What's the use of having amazing bjj skills if you can't get your opponent to the ground? Wrestling is just as important as striking or ground game.
mayan212 3 years ago
yup. That one reason why I prefer practicing w/no gi
supermario1123 3 years ago
you can always just lay down.
Ergock 3 years ago
you can always just lay down.
Ergock 3 years ago
Judo?? The ultimate in take downs.. They train all day at throwing.. Wrestlers in MMA have had to learn Jujitsu to even compete.If u aint got a guard game, u dead in minutes.Best thing about wrestling for mma is the sprawling and take down defense..
U are right tho.. Gotta get them on the ground first.
I train JJJ not BJJ , its got stand up and ground game, throws and takedowns and also all the defense u need in any area..
Keep training guys :S
SudoJudo1 3 years ago
Awesome
jeffsomer 3 years ago
Oh man. Such superior technique for such a young kid. His game looks like mine. That kid has talent. Props!
DevonHartigan 3 years ago
you have the same game plan as a 6 year old? nice
sad18240 2 years ago
Yeah well. If it gets the job done, I don't feel embarassed that me and a 6 year old share the same gameplan;-)
DevonHartigan 2 years ago
haha i was just teasing =D
sad18240 2 years ago
Which is why I didn't reply with in a spiteful way;-P. This IS the youtube commentary section, with 99% retarded people. But I'm glad I gave you the benefit of a doubt:-)
DevonHartigan 2 years ago
no i see what jbhoyah's saying, sure you can kill anyone who doesn't grapple one on one, with little effort, but i think what he's reffering to is if their are other people around who also wanna kick the shit out of you, u don't wann be on the ground because while your choking idiot#1 idiot#2 is kicking you in the face, of course if their are more than two peopel attcking you ur best bet is to run anyway, so it's kind of a moot point
building7911 3 years ago
I'm still a bit weirded by kids subbing eachother. I do prefer the judo way of just holds until a certain age. If you're eight and fightin in the playground you shoiuldn't be choking people on conscious.That's not a skillset you should have. My dad taught me chokes when I was a young judo-er and I hurt my sister.
obscurelines 3 years ago
maybe your onto something there obscurelines,
However if you were teaching these kids you would have to teach them to submit or they simply would'nt be able to compete against other clubs.
mgbrawl 3 years ago
wow, to be doing bjj as a kid would be friggin awesome. and they know the shit too!.
man... im glad all those old martial arts doctrines finally have the holes exposed. wow, one day i could be takin my kids to bjj practice in a mini-van. The times they are a changin'.
jambrayother 4 years ago 2
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BJJ isn't the end all be all of Martial arts, kid. It's great sport, I enjoy practicing it and competing but I would never in fucking YEARS break it out in the street, fuck that shit. ALL martial arts have "holes" in their doctrine, BJJ is no different. It's a retarded Self Defense especially in a street situation, I mean a REAL street fight, not a 1 on 1 decided match between idiots, which is all it's good for. As competition, fuck yeah, I love doing BJJ, it's like human chess.
jbhooyah 4 years ago
u dont know shit,no gi bjj has no holes, maybe room for improvement like everything else. ive used bjj in fights several times. its the truth, how can you not see that, this is the most functional martial art there has ever been. it doesnt involve striking, because you dont have to learn how to strike, its easy. the best and most functional strikes are the easiest ones.
jambrayother 4 years ago
BJJ has holes, all martial arts has holes. Please educate yourself. While chokes and locks are great, you still need a myriad of striking techniques to win a street fight. In addition street fights aren't usually 1 v 1 so ground techniques are rather useless. You cannot judge a martial art simply by seeing it dominate in a certain fight event k-1.ufc. each of these categories is designed for a certain fighting style. While the octagon is spacious, there is still space limitation for strikers.
xxljmzlxx 3 years ago
other martial arts are dont require as much time and mastery as some people try to attain. you obviously know very little to say you would never break it out in the "street". why attack a comment that was in no way offensive with all that insulting shit you just put down. getting somebody to the ground is easy, and instinctive. if somebody is hiting you; instinctively you grab them. thats when the fight goes to the ground. that is why bjj is effective in a "street" fight.
jambrayother 4 years ago
go ask GSP if BJJ works on the streets, broke a guys arm with an arm bar defending himself from a knife attack, this stuff works
LypStick 3 years ago
BJJ doesn't account for head butting, groan grabbing,eye gouging, and biting (all the cheap stuff). All of which could be considered holes in doctrine. But with all that considered I still think BJJ is the best thing to learn at a young age because it requires so many years to master, with Bj Penn being an exception.
Ooberskidd 3 years ago
Those kids are lucky to start BJJ at such a young age.
TheGreenSmoke 4 years ago 6
iam pretty envious
nickynoneck 4 years ago 5
too bad i didnt have access to this kind of knowledge when i was a kid lol! in the 80s it was all about karate!!
kenssd 4 years ago 2
seriously
BlitzHitz 3 years ago
thcs for sharing..kids rule MOre please.. great influence ta the older MEN of this sport. The heart of a child becomes strong in its teaching be it sports,education or religion lets raise them well and wise>:) MMa all the wayYYyyyy..
magicvideo01 4 years ago
pretty crazy to see little kids with good technique, you wouldnt think they would have the patience to learn such things, .. heh they probably have some crazy parents who force them to fight all the time
moxsum 4 years ago
is this in jersy my son 1 by tringle choke in his 3rd match at naga i wish he would of got the gogo he tried for but he 1
lionkill03 4 years ago
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The opp was broken down all day. He coulda pulled that triangle about 15 sec in. Bad video because of this
AIRTIGHT31 4 years ago
true, but their kids so....
ijuh22 4 years ago 3
These are kids and I'm sure either of them would tap you out. I saw your video... I got more out of this one.
allteeth 4 years ago
Wow I'm impressed for someone at his age 0_0.
PsYc0tIkDrEaM 4 years ago
holy shit i am impressed....sucks that they use the qi, without it i think it would be a lot more exciting. nevertheless brilliant!
sal1988 4 years ago