THANK YOU! I have been trying to tell people for years that this "Willie Lynch" foolishness is fake and that it makes our ancestors look outrageously ignorant as if one man could single-handedly destroy a people with a short speech as well as that damn fool story on the word "picnic". Much respect to you my comrade in arms in history. We have to educate the masses to use cross referencing as opposed to knee-jerk emotionalism.
I always here about the conscious community, firstly what are they conscious of or about ? secondly where is this darn community ? What is the result of them being conscious of or about whatever it is they say they are conscious of ? Is it feeding anybody, is it creating a tangible economic structure for 'black' people locally & globally? I am sick of the talk..we have talked long enough..We know the score..I want an action community... people who are committed. NO Negroes & Niggers, hit me up
I was actually gonna base a villain cartoon character on willie lynch inmy up and coming cartoon then I opted out as I don't think young black kids need such nonsense in their sights. Black people like boogey men and mysticism fam its the reason they like Alex Jones etc conspiracy theories for dummies eh.
The Willie Lynch letter is fake but yet its a reality in the minds of black people... then is really fake? Phil Valentine has a video up on Youtube called Vampires Of Conciousness where he hard on Christianity. Not 1! Not 1 Christian has stepped up and disputed that video! So The facts are the Willie Lynch Letter is fake and yet it serves it purpose and the same goes for Christianity and Jesus! If I am wrong then prove me wrong! Prove Phil Valentine to be wrong! I guarantee It won't happen!
@anonymousprofess "If I am wrong then prove me wrong! Prove Phil Valentine to be wrong! I guarantee It won't happen!"
If you are asking me to prove the Willie Lynch letter doesn't exist then I suggest you check out the description box because I've already proved it wrong. What else do you want me to prove wrong?
@MrHolipsism No I am not asking you that. I like this video of yours! Its as real as it gets. Good job. I know the Lynch letter is fake. I just hope blacks can let go of Christianity as some they will need to let go of the Lynch letter. I think if all people can just let go of falsehoods and dogmas then the world would rise overnight. I am not a new agest either. All that crap needs to be thrown out the window! Give me facts and nothing else!
@anonymousprofess Y'all so called conscious community are always talking aboutr someone else. Focus in on why your community is so broke. why your so-called community is getting smaller. Why you have NOTHING. You talk about churches and mosques? Wheres your pyramid? Y'all have to troll on facebook and youtube lol. Stupid and broke. Get yourselves together cause NO ONE TAKES YOU HOTEP NIGGAS SERIOUSLY
What happened to US, is far more egregious than some simple little letter suppossedly written b y some asshole and spoken on the River James, here in my city Richmond!
@MrHolipsism Good looking out on this one! My father told me along time ago that the Willie Lynch letter was fake. But the sad part is that it's a reality in the mind of too many of our people. I say death to the Willie Lynch letter in 2012!
We know Christians believe in Jesus,We know Muslims and the Prophet Muhammad and blah blah. What or who exactly defines the "Conscious Community"? What is the one philosophy that they all follow and agree upon like the Christians and Muslims?
Bruce Lee was defeated by Bruce Le-Roy in the Kumite even though that's Karate LMAO!
Happy New Year brother and I completely agree with you, we need to let all the fake crap die and base everything we defend or use to uplift our people to be true, right and exact PERIOD.
We don't have the time to create a boogie man, we have enough already we have to defeat made up by other people and cultures.
Most cultures do create parables, fairy tales or fables to teach lessons. The country is filled with them. The bible is full of parables to get points across. The history books, and all its other institutions are not necessarily 100% truth either. Most know the willie lynch letter may or may not be true. But its obvious that the tactics spoken of in that letter are being used today and have been used in the past. So its not that serious, its told to get a point across &teach a valid principle.
(2/2) Be willing to lose your world for the truth. If empirical evidences show that Willie Lynch letter is a fabrication of someone’s mind, even if the information in the letter may be true, drop it for the real evidence written and researched by real people with the right agenda and motivation.
(1/2) Some people behave like little chicks just hatching and the very first thing (and in this case hear) that looks like their mother (truth), they attach to it. No matter how much empirical evidence you show them, they stay loyal to the first and defend it. Their world is built on this lie; when the lie is challenged, their world is also. Take the lie away, their world as well.
@mrHolipsism happy new year bro, I totally understand the point you have put forward but in this case I think it's redundant bcoz the letter hasn't created a mentality within the black community that wouldn't of been there already due to the mass evidence that prove it was a reality then and even now to a certain extent. As for Jesus, the bible is a documentation of myth, opinion and plagiarism so i think it's fair to say that the mentality produced by the bible would be non- existent without t
we dont need the willie lynch letter as evidence of white supremacist action of Chattel slavery and its efffects we have enuff realworld evidence and history GOD damn!
I don't no if he is real or fake or not but the psychological lagacy as well as the affects can definatly not be neglected because when you study the letter and his book which I have 'Breaking the curse of Willie Lynch' I do see victims of it when I am around every day everywhere I have travelled to as well so I am not sure 100% weather he is facticious or not
@blackPowerStick Just check out the links in my description box, Fam. He and it is not. I just find the entire mythology completely unnecessary and I'm baffled as to why some of my Brothas and Sistas think it is.
I hear you, but I urge people to do independent research instead of just assuming. The new urban legends could be trying to erase history. Like Michelle Bachman trying to act like slaverys did not happen. If the lynch letter happened or not, what was in the letter is a reality.
@ReturnoftheBrotha The concept is that a white man came up with a blueprint of how to control slaves for plantation owners. That concept is WRONG. So if you are describing the remnants of Chattel Slavery then you are correct.. If you are attributing our historical realities to some fictional character then you are incorrect.
Lynch claims that his method of control “will work throughout the South.” This statement clearly shows the modern writer’s historical ignorance. In 1712, there was no region in the current-day U.S. identified as the “South.” The geographical region of the “South” did not become distinct until a century after the alleged speech.
Before the American Revolutionary War vs. Britain (1775-1783) the 13 original U.S. colonies were all slaveholding regions, and most of these colonies were in what later became the North, not the “South.” In fact, the region with the second largest slave population during the time of the alleged William Lynch speech was the northern city of New York, where there were a significant number of slave revolts including the rebellion in 1712.
“The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years.” “Re-fueling” is a 20th century term which refers to transportation.
@MrHolipsism the science of Willie Lynch is real and alive, I think the document is validate for christian,NOI, and Hebrew. There mind need it before they can get to our level, its a process. Once they enter the realm at capacity then we must reveal the Willie Lynch for what it is. This is a recent document for those who escape the spook god. HOTEP
@MrHolipsism Christian for example believe in the bable and its falsehood and unreal stories. So many Christian,NOI, and Hebrew etc. need this invalidate document to be valid in their minds.
“In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves.”
“Fool proof” and “Black” with an upper-case “B” to refer to people of African descent are of 20th century origin. Capitalizing “Black” did not become a standard from of writing until the late 1960s.
@mrHolipsism happy new year bro, I totally understand the point you have put forward but in this case I think it's redundant bcoz the letter hasn't created a mentality within the black community that wouldn't of been there already due to the mass evidence that prove it was a reality then and even now to a certain extent. As for Jesus, the bible is a documentation of myth, opinion and plagiarism so i think it's fair to say that the mentality produced by the bible would be non- existent without t
Sadly most blacks listen to whatever the white man says because from birth they're taught that the white men are higher, an trust worthy. Blacks are viewed as a lairs who stand for nothing.
Your title was good. Caught my attention. Heard what you said and I do agree. We use the willie lynch as a quick assertion of issues. And hence makes looking deeper into slavery less and less applicable. I find brothers and sisters in the community tend to talk less and less about slavery or even the research like when I started 12yrs ago
Lol, every community has urban legends so that's not anything to get het up about. As for the Willie Lynch letter there's nothing wrong with reading it to access the thinking of the white man and I can say for myself it solidified a lot of my thinking about white people. I found it a beneficial tool to get me straight on living in this society and it explained as far as I'm concerned problems within black society today. And as for the conscious community...what conscious community?
its hard to watch bullshit you know is going down while trying sadly to warn people. these people have done some profane shit. and i wanna get the message out.
Holip, you could have saved yourself 10 minutes and referred everyone to any of the hundreds of slave narratives out their in the public domain. They're filled with countless examples of black men and women who purposely sabotaged crops, machinery and killed livestock to hurt master's bottom line. Two hundred and fifty (250) instances of slave revolts involving 10 or more slaves. There's over two thousand (2000) total regardless of party size.
The unadulterated truth is extremely painful so people come up with myths and nonsense to help face reality, to hide their ignorance, AND to manipulate people, maybe even protecting the originator of the historical narrative. If a person DESIRES TRUTH, myths may help lead to it but it is still up to the individual to research. Unfortunately, many people preferred to stay in the dark. THEY DO NOT DESIRE TRUTH! It seems easier for them to deal with myths and nonsense guiding them through life.
@TheHIETTz but you see, i relaxed myself and my ways when Samael came along, cuz he said shit bluntly, and niggas started paying attention. and i was pleased.
but now he gone somewhere, when they were torturing me the dal told me he was probably in some mental institution somewhere (they had me there at the time).
the teachings of don juan (all ten books) an idea to the mentality these people are adopting, just remove any aspirations to holiness.
@TheHIETTz The bane of the nigger is believing everything they are told. Are you kidding me, Fam? Are you saying our bane is our critical analysis and dissection of any information told to us? LOL. It is in fact the exact opposite. Hence why we believe in Jesus, Muhammad, the Easter Bunny, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, etc.
@MrHolipsism we don't communicate that way. if we actually believed in jesus none of their shit would work on us. but we do what they tells, and that has nothing to do with jesus.
they used the bible to build an empire. we use it as a scapegoat.
our bane is doing what they tell us from ages of programming/ terrorism
we need a new name, a new identity, and we need to stick with it, genuinely coming together planning together and doing it
@azumanation you just saved me a whole load a of writing I agree with u 100%, even though the letter may be fake it's clear that blacks where captured made slaves then indoctrinated with various ideals that would favour the slave masters agenda. Also I don't think the Jesus comparison was valid even though he usually makes excellent ones.
@thecirclemovement I can't lie, it bothers me when our brothas and sistas utter the words, "fake or not." The reason why is because we don't have that philosophy when it comes to religious mythology. In fact we always point out how dangerous christian mythology is to our collective Black Afrikan mentality.
White researchers have also been quick to dismiss the authenticity of the Willie Lynch letter.
While they me be correct, I am suspicious of their motives. There has always been a subtle
attempt by many people to downplay the affects of slavery. Some have even made comments such as" slavery wasn't that bad!" If a non-black tells me the Willy Lynch letter is fake,
@rjhome1 Mine doesn't. The reason why is because the historical record is so vast and has so much depth they can throw the so-called Willie Lynch myth in the trash and it wouldn't affect the historical record in any way shape or form. As a matter of fact, the creation of this fake person and letter makes it possible for them to reject the historical reality in the first place, feel me?
Read the link to "Death of the Willie Lynch Speech" and doesn't the belief in Willie Lynch look like Kenneth Stampp's rule number 3 for making a slave: "develop awe of master's power"?
I respect the fact that you actually do your research, as do I. The authenticity of the Willy Lynch letter has been under scrutiny for years - but I admit, I used its content as examples several times here on ytube and other forums. Fake or not, its narrative is a powerful analogy of things that are happening in the black community today. I would even go as far as to call it ingenious (whoever the original author is).
Yup! The black conscious community's mythological negro-ologist. By saying that it took one white man, ONE WHITE MAN, to cause all of what we go through today then what are we subconsciously saying? After studying the development of colonial law in the context of race, I've started to see how limiting believing this myth is. I mean, can one began to truly realize their equality and heal themselves by believing that all it took was one white man? Great video!
cont'd...being slaves for the slave master. yes Willie Lynch as a person maybe a hoax but that is either here nor there. the methodology is very very real & exact. history supports these truths on how making slaves were done. I know it is hurtful read that letter but all black people in this nation & the world should study those letters & compare it to what is now taking place today. because that system have gone mainstream & all Americans are now being made slaves of the mind!
@azumanation I can't lie, it bothers me when our brothas and sistas utter the words, "fake or not." The reason why is because we don't have the philosophy when it comes to religious mythology. In fact we always point out how dangerous christian mythology is to our mentality.
cont'd...like that. our Ancestors first had to be stolen then forced to be slaves. & the only way these plantation owners were able to maintain slaves was by a scientific method. now that's a fact. the nation of Islam have many records & documents on John Hawkins & many other slave owners on how they were able to keep a people subservient to them for long periods of time. also look up the movie Mandingo & Goodbye Uncle Tom. these are excellent examples on how black people were conditioned into
I agree with you 100% that Willie Lynch is a fictional character. but the methodology of making slaves was very real! that letter on the science of making slaves did not originate from Willie Lynch. those words originated from a plantation owner that lived in the Caribbean back in the 1500's who's name was John Hawkins or Hopkins...he is the true orator of those statements. lets face it our Ancestors did not just come over here & said oh look Massa we want to be slaves! no it didn't go down
@azumanation "I agree with you 100% that Willie Lynch is a fictional character. but the methodology of making slaves was very real! "
Of course it was, Family. My question to you is what does that have to do with some made up person and letter? Does acknowledging the person and the letter as false invalidate the historical reality?
@MrHolipsism Also I noticed you are now monitoring the comments. this is a sure indicator that you are not trying to get to the truth. this is very sad family because an opposing view point should not discourage you? but it should inspire you & I to search even deeper for the the truths that history may hold....
@azumanation "I noticed you are now monitoring the comments. this is a sure indicator that you are not trying to get to the truth."
It couldn't be because I'm filtering my family from the barrage of racist idiots who troll my videos and make comments so vile and disgusting I don't wish for them to see them, right? Is that the type of "truth" you feel I should encourage or the opposing view point I should allow?
@azumanation This is what bothers me about the myth. It has become synonymous with the historical accuracy to the point that if you reject it people think you are trivializing slavery and post traumatic slave syndrome.
@MrHolipsism Who ever put that document out did it in a way that it would appear to be a Hoax so that it can be debunked? this was done on purpose to serve as a smoke screen to keep researchers from finding out the brutal reality that slavery really was.... John Hawkins is the true originator of that letter. & this is a historical fact.
@azumanation What document? There is no Willie Lynch letter. If it exists show it to me. How can John Hawkins be the originator of a letter that doesn't exist? Also, how do you dismiss the fact it uses words that didn't even exist during its supposed time?
@MrHolipsism For one you should do some research on John Hawkins. because you will find he is the author of the letters of making a slave. now these words you speak about Willie Lynch have made in that letter not existing in that time was made by a white Zionist historian. it really doesn't matter if some of the words that was used in that letter was authentic or not! my argument is that the authenticity of the document doesn't explain away the brutal realities & system of making
@MrHolipsism cont'd...of a slave. one can find all kinds of evidence by historians on the science of making slaves through text & picture description. this hoopla about the Willie Lynch letter being fake is another attempt by the Elitist to destroy the truths & horrors of the black holocaust. & no black person male or female should be helping them in distorting history & our legacy.
@MrHolipsism Further more I don't have to show you a Willie Lynch letter you can find writings on how to make a slave through the documentation of John Hawkins look him up & I wish you well in your research.
@azumanation If you are not pushing the Willie Lynch letter you most definitely don't have to show it to me. If you are arguing its authenticity then why should I have to put it together piece meal via other sources? If it is an actual letter then produce it. That should lay everything to rest. "It doesn't matter if its real or not" is a non sequitur.
@MrHolipsism I am not arguing the authenticity of the Willie Lynch letter at all. my argument is that the science of making a slave that, that so called Willie Lynch letter describes in it's writings is a reality.
THANK YOU! I have been trying to tell people for years that this "Willie Lynch" foolishness is fake and that it makes our ancestors look outrageously ignorant as if one man could single-handedly destroy a people with a short speech as well as that damn fool story on the word "picnic". Much respect to you my comrade in arms in history. We have to educate the masses to use cross referencing as opposed to knee-jerk emotionalism.
Themaddprof 1 week ago
For real, that shit is fake. I remember watching the Animal movie with Ving Rhames and they kept talking about Willie Lynch.
Thanks man, I'll check out those links.
jc1838 1 month ago
I always here about the conscious community, firstly what are they conscious of or about ? secondly where is this darn community ? What is the result of them being conscious of or about whatever it is they say they are conscious of ? Is it feeding anybody, is it creating a tangible economic structure for 'black' people locally & globally? I am sick of the talk..we have talked long enough..We know the score..I want an action community... people who are committed. NO Negroes & Niggers, hit me up
modogray 1 month ago
i've been guilty of this and the "picnic" origins for a long time until i was quiet and used common sense and reason..
XNakisisaX 1 month ago
Black men like large/long jewelry because of the chains their ancestors wore to America. Heard a lady say that with a straight face.
ClevelandRetroFan 2 months ago
I was actually gonna base a villain cartoon character on willie lynch inmy up and coming cartoon then I opted out as I don't think young black kids need such nonsense in their sights. Black people like boogey men and mysticism fam its the reason they like Alex Jones etc conspiracy theories for dummies eh.
ht1comics 2 months ago
The Willie Lynch letter is fake but yet its a reality in the minds of black people... then is really fake? Phil Valentine has a video up on Youtube called Vampires Of Conciousness where he hard on Christianity. Not 1! Not 1 Christian has stepped up and disputed that video! So The facts are the Willie Lynch Letter is fake and yet it serves it purpose and the same goes for Christianity and Jesus! If I am wrong then prove me wrong! Prove Phil Valentine to be wrong! I guarantee It won't happen!
anonymousprofess 2 months ago
@anonymousprofess "If I am wrong then prove me wrong! Prove Phil Valentine to be wrong! I guarantee It won't happen!"
If you are asking me to prove the Willie Lynch letter doesn't exist then I suggest you check out the description box because I've already proved it wrong. What else do you want me to prove wrong?
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism No I am not asking you that. I like this video of yours! Its as real as it gets. Good job. I know the Lynch letter is fake. I just hope blacks can let go of Christianity as some they will need to let go of the Lynch letter. I think if all people can just let go of falsehoods and dogmas then the world would rise overnight. I am not a new agest either. All that crap needs to be thrown out the window! Give me facts and nothing else!
anonymousprofess 2 months ago
@anonymousprofess No doubt, Family! ONE
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@anonymousprofess Y'all so called conscious community are always talking aboutr someone else. Focus in on why your community is so broke. why your so-called community is getting smaller. Why you have NOTHING. You talk about churches and mosques? Wheres your pyramid? Y'all have to troll on facebook and youtube lol. Stupid and broke. Get yourselves together cause NO ONE TAKES YOU HOTEP NIGGAS SERIOUSLY
ronmatthews 1 month ago
What happened to US, is far more egregious than some simple little letter suppossedly written b y some asshole and spoken on the River James, here in my city Richmond!
richbullva 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Good looking out on this one! My father told me along time ago that the Willie Lynch letter was fake. But the sad part is that it's a reality in the mind of too many of our people. I say death to the Willie Lynch letter in 2012!
kushiteprince 2 months ago
We know Christians believe in Jesus,We know Muslims and the Prophet Muhammad and blah blah. What or who exactly defines the "Conscious Community"? What is the one philosophy that they all follow and agree upon like the Christians and Muslims?
AriesBrother78 2 months ago
Another great video and thanks for the links.
Mrsbabylove83 2 months ago
@Mrsbabylove83 Thank you, Fam!
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Willie Lynch voted dislike.
barlog20 2 months ago
@barlog20 lol
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Bruce Lee was defeated by Bruce Le-Roy in the Kumite even though that's Karate LMAO!
Happy New Year brother and I completely agree with you, we need to let all the fake crap die and base everything we defend or use to uplift our people to be true, right and exact PERIOD.
We don't have the time to create a boogie man, we have enough already we have to defeat made up by other people and cultures.
MedjayCommander 2 months ago 2
@MedjayCommander AMEN...RA!
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Indeed brother
MedjayCommander 2 months ago
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!
MilitantAfroQween 2 months ago
Most cultures do create parables, fairy tales or fables to teach lessons. The country is filled with them. The bible is full of parables to get points across. The history books, and all its other institutions are not necessarily 100% truth either. Most know the willie lynch letter may or may not be true. But its obvious that the tactics spoken of in that letter are being used today and have been used in the past. So its not that serious, its told to get a point across &teach a valid principle.
shemika341 2 months ago
(2/2) Be willing to lose your world for the truth. If empirical evidences show that Willie Lynch letter is a fabrication of someone’s mind, even if the information in the letter may be true, drop it for the real evidence written and researched by real people with the right agenda and motivation.
ChippiSweet 2 months ago
(1/2) Some people behave like little chicks just hatching and the very first thing (and in this case hear) that looks like their mother (truth), they attach to it. No matter how much empirical evidence you show them, they stay loyal to the first and defend it. Their world is built on this lie; when the lie is challenged, their world is also. Take the lie away, their world as well.
ChippiSweet 2 months ago
@mrHolipsism happy new year bro, I totally understand the point you have put forward but in this case I think it's redundant bcoz the letter hasn't created a mentality within the black community that wouldn't of been there already due to the mass evidence that prove it was a reality then and even now to a certain extent. As for Jesus, the bible is a documentation of myth, opinion and plagiarism so i think it's fair to say that the mentality produced by the bible would be non- existent without t
thecirclemovement 2 months ago
we dont need the willie lynch letter as evidence of white supremacist action of Chattel slavery and its efffects we have enuff realworld evidence and history GOD damn!
solreavir 2 months ago
I don't no if he is real or fake or not but the psychological lagacy as well as the affects can definatly not be neglected because when you study the letter and his book which I have 'Breaking the curse of Willie Lynch' I do see victims of it when I am around every day everywhere I have travelled to as well so I am not sure 100% weather he is facticious or not
blackPowerStick 2 months ago
@blackPowerStick Just check out the links in my description box, Fam. He and it is not. I just find the entire mythology completely unnecessary and I'm baffled as to why some of my Brothas and Sistas think it is.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
I hear you, but I urge people to do independent research instead of just assuming. The new urban legends could be trying to erase history. Like Michelle Bachman trying to act like slaverys did not happen. If the lynch letter happened or not, what was in the letter is a reality.
ReturnoftheBrotha 2 months ago
@ReturnoftheBrotha " If the lynch letter happened or not, what was in the letter is a reality"
***sigh*** :-(
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@ReturnoftheBrotha The concept is that a white man came up with a blueprint of how to control slaves for plantation owners. That concept is WRONG. So if you are describing the remnants of Chattel Slavery then you are correct.. If you are attributing our historical realities to some fictional character then you are incorrect.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Lynch claims that his method of control “will work throughout the South.” This statement clearly shows the modern writer’s historical ignorance. In 1712, there was no region in the current-day U.S. identified as the “South.” The geographical region of the “South” did not become distinct until a century after the alleged speech.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Before the American Revolutionary War vs. Britain (1775-1783) the 13 original U.S. colonies were all slaveholding regions, and most of these colonies were in what later became the North, not the “South.” In fact, the region with the second largest slave population during the time of the alleged William Lynch speech was the northern city of New York, where there were a significant number of slave revolts including the rebellion in 1712.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
“The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years.” “Re-fueling” is a 20th century term which refers to transportation.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism the science of Willie Lynch is real and alive, I think the document is validate for christian,NOI, and Hebrew. There mind need it before they can get to our level, its a process. Once they enter the realm at capacity then we must reveal the Willie Lynch for what it is. This is a recent document for those who escape the spook god. HOTEP
GHETTOTHIRDEYE 2 months ago
@GHETTOTHIRDEYE "I think the document is validate for christian,NOI, and Hebrew"
What document, Family? No one has produced the original physical letter to this date.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Christian for example believe in the bable and its falsehood and unreal stories. So many Christian,NOI, and Hebrew etc. need this invalidate document to be valid in their minds.
GHETTOTHIRDEYE 2 months ago
“In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves.”
“Fool proof” and “Black” with an upper-case “B” to refer to people of African descent are of 20th century origin. Capitalizing “Black” did not become a standard from of writing until the late 1960s.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
I find it hilarious that Brothas and Sistas are still holding on to the myth even after this video. LOL
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@mrHolipsism happy new year bro, I totally understand the point you have put forward but in this case I think it's redundant bcoz the letter hasn't created a mentality within the black community that wouldn't of been there already due to the mass evidence that prove it was a reality then and even now to a certain extent. As for Jesus, the bible is a documentation of myth, opinion and plagiarism so i think it's fair to say that the mentality produced by the bible would be non- existent without t
thecirclemovement 2 months ago
@thecirclemovement Happy New Year, Fam!
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Sadly most blacks listen to whatever the white man says because from birth they're taught that the white men are higher, an trust worthy. Blacks are viewed as a lairs who stand for nothing.
aKenChanFilm 2 months ago
Your title was good. Caught my attention. Heard what you said and I do agree. We use the willie lynch as a quick assertion of issues. And hence makes looking deeper into slavery less and less applicable. I find brothers and sisters in the community tend to talk less and less about slavery or even the research like when I started 12yrs ago
PeaceAndJustice357 2 months ago
Lol, every community has urban legends so that's not anything to get het up about. As for the Willie Lynch letter there's nothing wrong with reading it to access the thinking of the white man and I can say for myself it solidified a lot of my thinking about white people. I found it a beneficial tool to get me straight on living in this society and it explained as far as I'm concerned problems within black society today. And as for the conscious community...what conscious community?
sirenlyfox 2 months ago
i wanna apologize for the former comment
i am trying to pick a fight.
its hard to watch bullshit you know is going down while trying sadly to warn people. these people have done some profane shit. and i wanna get the message out.
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
@TheHIETTz I didn't see the former, but no need to apologize, Fam. I know where your heart is in relation to our people. HTP NTR
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism HTP NTR
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
Excuse the misspellings. They're/There/Their. I'm still working on the kinks on this extremely beta speech recognition software.
computercornerplusNC 2 months ago
Holip, you could have saved yourself 10 minutes and referred everyone to any of the hundreds of slave narratives out their in the public domain. They're filled with countless examples of black men and women who purposely sabotaged crops, machinery and killed livestock to hurt master's bottom line. Two hundred and fifty (250) instances of slave revolts involving 10 or more slaves. There's over two thousand (2000) total regardless of party size.
computercornerplusNC 2 months ago
@computercornerplusNC Thank you, Fam!
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
MrHolipsism Whats Good Fam, Nice Vid fa show
2113ChargersFan 2 months ago
@2113ChargersFan Peace Family! Thank you
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
/watch?v=yIsYdtUKqvk&feature=youtu.be
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
@TheHIETTz This link didn't come up for me, Fam.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
no video responses?
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
Good video, I'm tired of people trying to validate this willie lynch crap too. Happy new year to you when it comes brother.
StarGyrl 2 months ago
@StarGyrl Happy New Year, Fam!
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
I always thought willie Lynch was a parable or just a teaching tool. It wasn't till I came on Youtube that I found that people thought it was real
snakejohnson 2 months ago
Happy, safe new year to you too! Don’t believe the hype 2012! Stay focus!
ChippiSweet 2 months ago
The unadulterated truth is extremely painful so people come up with myths and nonsense to help face reality, to hide their ignorance, AND to manipulate people, maybe even protecting the originator of the historical narrative. If a person DESIRES TRUTH, myths may help lead to it but it is still up to the individual to research. Unfortunately, many people preferred to stay in the dark. THEY DO NOT DESIRE TRUTH! It seems easier for them to deal with myths and nonsense guiding them through life.
ChippiSweet 2 months ago
@TheHIETTz but you see, i relaxed myself and my ways when Samael came along, cuz he said shit bluntly, and niggas started paying attention. and i was pleased.
but now he gone somewhere, when they were torturing me the dal told me he was probably in some mental institution somewhere (they had me there at the time).
the teachings of don juan (all ten books) an idea to the mentality these people are adopting, just remove any aspirations to holiness.
bane of the nigger "prove it"
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
@TheHIETTz The bane of the nigger is believing everything they are told. Are you kidding me, Fam? Are you saying our bane is our critical analysis and dissection of any information told to us? LOL. It is in fact the exact opposite. Hence why we believe in Jesus, Muhammad, the Easter Bunny, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, etc.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism we don't communicate that way. if we actually believed in jesus none of their shit would work on us. but we do what they tells, and that has nothing to do with jesus.
they used the bible to build an empire. we use it as a scapegoat.
our bane is doing what they tell us from ages of programming/ terrorism
we need a new name, a new identity, and we need to stick with it, genuinely coming together planning together and doing it
DOING IT!
willie lynch explains why it doesn't work.
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
Well Holip, I can't talk to my moms about ColCOCK.
2012 is the year of Black Organization.
TeamAfrikaMemphis 2 months ago
@azumanation you just saved me a whole load a of writing I agree with u 100%, even though the letter may be fake it's clear that blacks where captured made slaves then indoctrinated with various ideals that would favour the slave masters agenda. Also I don't think the Jesus comparison was valid even though he usually makes excellent ones.
thecirclemovement 2 months ago
@thecirclemovement Thanks & Peace.
azumanation 2 months ago
@thecirclemovement I can't lie, it bothers me when our brothas and sistas utter the words, "fake or not." The reason why is because we don't have that philosophy when it comes to religious mythology. In fact we always point out how dangerous christian mythology is to our collective Black Afrikan mentality.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
White researchers have also been quick to dismiss the authenticity of the Willie Lynch letter.
While they me be correct, I am suspicious of their motives. There has always been a subtle
attempt by many people to downplay the affects of slavery. Some have even made comments such as" slavery wasn't that bad!" If a non-black tells me the Willy Lynch letter is fake,
my red flag goes up.
rjhome1 2 months ago
@rjhome1 Mine doesn't. The reason why is because the historical record is so vast and has so much depth they can throw the so-called Willie Lynch myth in the trash and it wouldn't affect the historical record in any way shape or form. As a matter of fact, the creation of this fake person and letter makes it possible for them to reject the historical reality in the first place, feel me?
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Read the link to "Death of the Willie Lynch Speech" and doesn't the belief in Willie Lynch look like Kenneth Stampp's rule number 3 for making a slave: "develop awe of master's power"?
ColorOrStateOfMind 2 months ago
I respect the fact that you actually do your research, as do I. The authenticity of the Willy Lynch letter has been under scrutiny for years - but I admit, I used its content as examples several times here on ytube and other forums. Fake or not, its narrative is a powerful analogy of things that are happening in the black community today. I would even go as far as to call it ingenious (whoever the original author is).
rjhome1 2 months ago 2
@rjhome1 here here
TheHIETTz 2 months ago
@rjhome1 If it is an analogy then I would agree with you. If it is told as an historical reality then I disagree profusely, Fam.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
Great video. I never questioned the authenticity of the letter, would like to know who was behind it.
blacksncommercials 2 months ago
Yup! The black conscious community's mythological negro-ologist. By saying that it took one white man, ONE WHITE MAN, to cause all of what we go through today then what are we subconsciously saying? After studying the development of colonial law in the context of race, I've started to see how limiting believing this myth is. I mean, can one began to truly realize their equality and heal themselves by believing that all it took was one white man? Great video!
ColorOrStateOfMind 2 months ago
cont'd...being slaves for the slave master. yes Willie Lynch as a person maybe a hoax but that is either here nor there. the methodology is very very real & exact. history supports these truths on how making slaves were done. I know it is hurtful read that letter but all black people in this nation & the world should study those letters & compare it to what is now taking place today. because that system have gone mainstream & all Americans are now being made slaves of the mind!
azumanation 2 months ago
@azumanation I can't lie, it bothers me when our brothas and sistas utter the words, "fake or not." The reason why is because we don't have the philosophy when it comes to religious mythology. In fact we always point out how dangerous christian mythology is to our mentality.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
cont'd...like that. our Ancestors first had to be stolen then forced to be slaves. & the only way these plantation owners were able to maintain slaves was by a scientific method. now that's a fact. the nation of Islam have many records & documents on John Hawkins & many other slave owners on how they were able to keep a people subservient to them for long periods of time. also look up the movie Mandingo & Goodbye Uncle Tom. these are excellent examples on how black people were conditioned into
azumanation 2 months ago
I agree with you 100% that Willie Lynch is a fictional character. but the methodology of making slaves was very real! that letter on the science of making slaves did not originate from Willie Lynch. those words originated from a plantation owner that lived in the Caribbean back in the 1500's who's name was John Hawkins or Hopkins...he is the true orator of those statements. lets face it our Ancestors did not just come over here & said oh look Massa we want to be slaves! no it didn't go down
azumanation 2 months ago
@azumanation "I agree with you 100% that Willie Lynch is a fictional character. but the methodology of making slaves was very real! "
Of course it was, Family. My question to you is what does that have to do with some made up person and letter? Does acknowledging the person and the letter as false invalidate the historical reality?
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Also I noticed you are now monitoring the comments. this is a sure indicator that you are not trying to get to the truth. this is very sad family because an opposing view point should not discourage you? but it should inspire you & I to search even deeper for the the truths that history may hold....
azumanation 2 months ago
@azumanation "I noticed you are now monitoring the comments. this is a sure indicator that you are not trying to get to the truth."
It couldn't be because I'm filtering my family from the barrage of racist idiots who troll my videos and make comments so vile and disgusting I don't wish for them to see them, right? Is that the type of "truth" you feel I should encourage or the opposing view point I should allow?
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@azumanation I view all the crap so that you don't have to, Family. ONE
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@azumanation This is what bothers me about the myth. It has become synonymous with the historical accuracy to the point that if you reject it people think you are trivializing slavery and post traumatic slave syndrome.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Who ever put that document out did it in a way that it would appear to be a Hoax so that it can be debunked? this was done on purpose to serve as a smoke screen to keep researchers from finding out the brutal reality that slavery really was.... John Hawkins is the true originator of that letter. & this is a historical fact.
azumanation 2 months ago
@azumanation What document? There is no Willie Lynch letter. If it exists show it to me. How can John Hawkins be the originator of a letter that doesn't exist? Also, how do you dismiss the fact it uses words that didn't even exist during its supposed time?
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism For one you should do some research on John Hawkins. because you will find he is the author of the letters of making a slave. now these words you speak about Willie Lynch have made in that letter not existing in that time was made by a white Zionist historian. it really doesn't matter if some of the words that was used in that letter was authentic or not! my argument is that the authenticity of the document doesn't explain away the brutal realities & system of making
azumanation 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism cont'd...of a slave. one can find all kinds of evidence by historians on the science of making slaves through text & picture description. this hoopla about the Willie Lynch letter being fake is another attempt by the Elitist to destroy the truths & horrors of the black holocaust. & no black person male or female should be helping them in distorting history & our legacy.
azumanation 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism Further more I don't have to show you a Willie Lynch letter you can find writings on how to make a slave through the documentation of John Hawkins look him up & I wish you well in your research.
azumanation 2 months ago
@azumanation If you are not pushing the Willie Lynch letter you most definitely don't have to show it to me. If you are arguing its authenticity then why should I have to put it together piece meal via other sources? If it is an actual letter then produce it. That should lay everything to rest. "It doesn't matter if its real or not" is a non sequitur.
MrHolipsism 2 months ago
@MrHolipsism I am not arguing the authenticity of the Willie Lynch letter at all. my argument is that the science of making a slave that, that so called Willie Lynch letter describes in it's writings is a reality.
azumanation 2 months ago