clear brainwashing. the liberals have DESTROYED the United States and our children will be slaves to socialism and be robots without their own thoughs. The free world is doomed with liberals brainwashing children in shcool now.
I love how people call this "brainwashing" kids when I see pictures of my pregnant friends at political rallys with tags like: "my baby is a republican!"... obviously, an unborn baby has a right to life, but not to free thought! Gotta love the conservatives...
Um, a pregnant woman wearing a shirt isn't "brainwashing." And that woman raising her child as a republican isn't either, it's teaching her child the values and ideas she believes in. Gathering children together and having them sing a politician's praises *as a political tool* is SLIGHTLY different.
yes socialism.... the idiology where everyone is equally poor! and you are excited about that! wow you must really be loving it! redneck power ...wow and a racasist ta boot! cuz if you think rednecks are in power you are stuck on stupid! listen pal deal with your racsism and your ignorance of what the civilized weorld is! and then takle subjects like socialism and how children are treated by folks. start with food good! fire hot! build on that
Everybody is poor right now. And it is all because of runaway capitalism. Well, I suppose there are those who are probably high fiving each other over the shit they pulled on us.
And sir, I am the whitest guy you can imagine. When I say redneck I mean the gun toting, bible thumping fools. The kind of people who would vote for McCain and pass prep 8. You fools would gain the most from socialism.
This is America.People have the RIGHT to tote guns and thump bibles,whether you like it or not.And last I saw,the people with JOBS were voting for McCain,and the people riding the welfare system were voting for Obama.What are you TALKING about "you fools would gain the most..."?And there are NUMEROUS programs in place for the needy here, in fact many ABUSE them.Who are you to tell me I have to give up what I earn and produce for someone else?Charity is NOT mandatory. What you want is* larceny*.
"join the civilized world" of North Korea, where they gas families in glass rooms and watch them die because they are Christians, Russia where Stalin killed 20,000,000 of his people without trial. China who is even now wiping out Falun Gong practicioners who simply embrace a unique form of exercise. I think you missed the point. If you love it so much why not just keep it to yourself.. Or better yet go live in one of these "civilized countries"
It's not like the political Right doesn't encourage and have kids singing in favor of them as well. I don't understand why only the Obama's American "left" is focused on in this.
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Sorry "safework", my comments were geared to the idiot who keeps using foul language to try and prove his point to you. You really exposed him for who he is!BRAVO again!
I think the real question is-- why the fuck are these kids singing? A presidental term is EIGHT YEARS LONG. Most of these kids won't even be able to vote by the time Barack Obama is out of office. Think about it. I'm 19. I damn sure wasn't singing songs of praise for Bill Clinton or George W Bush to be elected. This is propoganda and the preparation for a transition into communism. Open your minds to the reality of things and not what mainstream media programs into your mind.
The reason that socialism and communism are associated in the American psyche is cold war propaganda that served the double purpose of keeping America in the hands of the wealthy and getting the public to go along with or ignore a number of US orchestrated coups of sovereign governments that were nationalizing industry to keep the money in the hands of their people and out of the hands of already obscenely wealthy Americans who could care less about the countries that they pilfer profits from.
The only difference between socialism and communism is whether or not the state's control over the means of production is direct or indirect. If you don't believe me, there's this document called the communist manifesto, give it a read some time...
I have actually... the problem is that what Marx meant by socialism and what`s labeled as socialism these days are not really the same thing. Listen, I`m not a socialist, a communist a nazi, or an obama supporter, just to make that clear. Also Marx`s communism and/or socialism had very little to do with soviet communism. The idea of dictatorship and all that was brought about by Lenin. If you're to use Marx's view of socialism, how are obama's policies socialist?
Marx-(paraphrased): From each according to his abilities to each according to his need. - wealth redistribution.
Obama-(paraphrased from his recent conversation with a small business owner): "Look, you're rich, it shouldn't be a problem if I tax you more and give that money to someone less fortunate." - wealth redistribution.
Any more bright questions?
Do yourself a favor and read the whole thread before you comment again.
I actually have read the whole thing...but we're not here to defame each other. Anyways, this comment is a great example. Yes, Obama's tax structure favors the middle and lower classes, meaning that it is relatively more left wing or however you want to call it. The thing is that that doesn't make it socialist, because socialism is the extreme application of this economic approach. My point in all this is that it's unfair to use a politicized buzz word like socialist.
to refer to policies that are more left wing than your own world view. There are strong arguments for both sides (liberal and conservative) and you discredit yours by trying to defame the other...just like dems calling bush a fascist (which they frequently do), you only appeal to those who already share your view or are sheep. If you calmly explain why and how you believe these policies will hurt your country, you will be able to create a lot more legitimacy.
Your argument would be just like saying that a little bit right wing is fascist, which it isn't. You're implying a line where anything that crosses it is socialism. That line is somewhere just left of centre in terms of North American politics. I could just as easily draw the same line and say anything to the right is fascist. I'm not too big a fan of left right politics but it suits the analogy. btw I appreciate your actually having a real debate with me rather than calling me and asshole lol.
You're under the mistaken impression that "right wing" and "fascist" are the same thing. They're not. Conservatives as a breed detest government. My argument stands.
no no no the point is that they are not the same, but I could, if I used a mirror image of your logic argue that they were. My point is simply this: saying that Obama's policies are socialist because "there is no such thing as a little bit pregnant" is the same as saying that conservative policies are fascist. Neither of these things are true, and arguing one opens the door to the other because the logic behind saying right-wingers are fascists is the same as you saying obama's a socialist.
Marx-(paraphrased): From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need." - wealth redistribution.
Obama-(paraphrased): "Look, you're rich, it shouldn't be a problem if I tax you more and give that money to someone less fortunate." - wealth redistribution.
Obama is following the dictates of Marx. He IS a socialist. Facts are facts and your protestations can't change that. He wants to take from the productive and give to the lazy. Period.
Ya, I'll admit having your kids sing the praises of the candidate that you support for president is kind of uncool...Just like it's uncool to teach children to hate others based on religion, race, sexual preference, or anything else for that matter. Also, Nazis weren't socialists...I know it's in the name, but fascism and socialism (the kind you mean) aren't the same thing. Also socialism and communism aren't the same thing.
The communist and socialist governments rely on fascism to keep the citizens in line. It's true that fascism can exist without comm/soc but the comm/soc's can't survive without fascism...
in regards to this one, several socialist (not leninist communist like you're refering to) governments were elected in the 1960s and '70s in various places in the world. These were peaceful, valid governments that were not police states. Ironically in almost every case, these governments were overthrown by fascist, or fascist like governments supported by the US (CIA). If you don't believe me, read about Salvador Aillende in Chile being overthrown by the fascist Pinochet.
Coming down on Obama because some kids sing his praises is just silly. I'm sure in prior elections that kids have been taught to sing for both Democrats and Republicans. All presidential candidates have campaign songs written about (and for) themselves and there are bound to be adults who think it's cute to have kids sing a song.
Would you be so alarmed if somebody produced a tape of kids singing for McCain? I don't think so.
BTW, I'm not an Obama supporter. I dread the day he wins.
"Would you be so alarmed if somebody produced a tape of kids singing for McCain? I don't think so."
Show us the video of kids singing for McCain and we'll discuss it. Until then, we'll just have to acknowledge that Obama's cult like following is acting just like Hitler's followers from back in the day.
And the Liberal party are conservatives in Britian and Australia, so what? A name means nothing, especially in 1920's Germany where for a time the party was Socialist or attempted to gain power through manipulating socialist leaning voters while at the same time giving behind closed door guarantees to Capitalists.
It also doesn't seem those Neo-Nazi's like Obama very much, funny that.
National Socialists weren't Socialists. They had a 'socialist' agenda which Hitler never planned to implement, it was just to sweep into power. The rest was right-wing dictatorship! They only allied themselves to Benito Mussolini and against the communists!
Safework is wright. That's bull. It was all about German socialism controlling the world, not Russian communism. That's why Hitler allied against them.
Hitler was a violent secular socialist, who did not believe in any form of religion except worship of himself, who wanted to control every means of production in the country+violent imperialism. The farther you go right, the farther you get from government so the farther you are from government led imperialism.
Hitler considered himself right wing. His supporters considered his party right wing. Right wing parties endorsed him! Most of his politics were right wing. He discriminated based on class. Most Historians have agreed for decades that he is the right side of the political spectrum. He was not atheist, if he wasn't Christian (which is debatable) he was certainly agnostic.
Whilst not all of his policies were right wing, he considered his party right wing, and he received right wing endorsements.
...which in the end, is all that really is need to mark him as right wing!
How frequently do you see Democratic Socialists dismiss Stalin or Mao as Socialist? Yet, the right wing is attempting senseless historical revisionism because they can't take the fact that their politics aren't perfection. Fact is, Hitler is right wing. He is at right wing as say the One Nation party in Australia, which is a party that is typically endorsed by the conservatives and seen as xenophobic.
"Although Volkswagen plays down the connection (who wouldn't?), the company got its start during the Third Reich. ...In the 1930s, Hitler had forced all Germans to enroll in the German Labor Front, and made them pay membership dues. ...Hitler wanted his "Volksauto" built. An ideal spot was found: 10,000 acres that belonged to Count Werner von der Schulenberg. The Reich simply took over the Count's property, including his Castle Wolfsburg..."
This forced 'German Labor Front' was because they outlawed trade unions. The Labor Front didn't guarantee workers their rights, it gave corporations full control and the workers no voice, and wages fell.
"...Our fundamental economic principles are, first, to unite all the forces existing, and secondly, to educate our people better in their use.
This Labor Front is the greatest element in such education. You are servants of the nation, but you alone are nothing. As part of the organic whole you are everything...."
(sarc) Nope, nothing socialist there! (/sarc)
Of course wages fell. Everyone took an across the board pay cut in the form of union dues...
"socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."
Hate to burst your bubble but Hitler was a textbook example of a socialist. So is Obama.
You're not very bright are you? Hitler and Nazi Germany were Fascist. That's a big difference from socialism.
"fas·cism:often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
You think that socialists and communists aren't also fascists? You're deluded. Fascism is a natural extension of both communism and socialism as it's needed to keep the population in step with the government. ie. Hugo Chavez, Stalin, Mao and Hitler
Right-wingers on the other hand are generally free-market capitalists and libertarian as they want less government involvement in our lives. ie. The Founding Fathers.
Your civics teachers should be fired for incompetence.
What are you a sixth grader? Go back to class, or at least read a book and learn something about what you are spouting instead of making it up as you go along.
Are you really asserting that the founding fathers were all about autocratic dictatorial control and that Stalin, Mao and pals were all about freedom and democracy and smaller government? Seriously?
Wait... lemmie guess... It must be "backwards day" at your mental institution.
Do yourself a favor; Read both the U.S. Constitution and the Communist Manifesto and then come back and tell the group which one extols the virtue of absolute government control and which does not.
What the hell are you talking about? You really are stupid. I never said anything about the US or "Stalin, Mao and pals". All I did was point out that the Nazi's weren't Com/Soc, they were Fascist. Never said I was in favor of either system. Now you've gone from making up facts (i.e. Fascist = Communist), to making up arguments. Wow, pull your head out of your ass and take a breath of fresh air.
I'll type slower this time so you can keep up, ok?
Brother Hugo's socialist Venezuela puts the nation (the collective) above the individual in that the state's rights supersede the rights of the individual. ie the expropriation of farm land and private business in the name of the collective. It was also autocratic in that the "state", currently in the form of "Brother Hugo" is the ultimate authority.
Stalin, Hitler and Mao all used the exact same model, not as a lifestyle choice, but because it's required in order to suppress the individual in favor of "the collective".
Humans are born as individuals with free will and the only way to make them march lock step with "Soc/Com" ideology is to use authoritative force. Fascism.
You may not like it but it's a fact. "Soc/Com" cannot exist without fascism.
Dude, you are an idiot. You fit the definition of idiot to a tee. Let me spell it out for you, I don't care about Brother Hugo (whoever the fuck that is), Stalin, Mao, Obama or your mamma. I also don't give a rats ass about your retarded video. I also don't care that you're to dumb to understand the difference between Communism and Fascism. Ok, GET IT? Stop arguing with me about stupid shit and people I don't give a shit about. Communism IS NOT the same as Fascism. Read a book, learn something
(I shouldn't kick a man when he's down but what the hell)
"Brother Hugo" is the tin-pot dictator of Venezuela who recently took over his country and converted it to socialism. It's been in the news. Maybe you missed it.
No one said that "soc/com" and fascism were the same. Only that they go hand in hand. They're like different sides of the same coin. Can't have the 1st without the 2nd.
For someone who keeps calling others dumb, you don't seem to know a lot...
Well, hey at least you finally admitted that communism and fascism aren't the same thing. Maybe morons can learn something. As far as your Bro there, yeah I missed it. Why? Because I don't give a fuck. Just one more shit pot dictator in S.A. But they have oil, so someday we'll go down there and bomb the shit out 'em. Either way, it's just one more thing you brought up for no reason. The point is, you finally admitted you are WRONG. Now drop dead dumbass.
You are the perfect POSTER CHILD and example of the calliber of people voting for OBAMA. Your low class disrespect for an adult and educated debate proves it. NOBODY TOLD YOU TO WATCH THIS. Just shut off your computer!
Hitler gave the control to Capitalists, and exercised a little control over corporations and upper class individuals for his own and parties benefit. He was pro-middle class from the start, and never really gave a toss about the lower class workers.
"If I had wished I could have substituted officials for employers, but nature and reality select best. We do not wish bureaucratic economics as in Russia, nor do we wish to establish economic democracy here.
Yet that does not mean either that we wish to let things drift as they please..."
Like I said earlier, the only difference between nazi socialism and communism was who had direct control over the means of production.
Crucial flaw in the whole argument: Obama didn't even sanction this! If I were American, I'd feel pretty outraged with this misrepresentation. It is a grassroots thing done up by a Dem supporter not endorsed by Obama or the Democrats.
It's the kind of argument that will always go against Obama. If he spoke out, he's saying these people are communist without any proof of the matter--just justifying the unfounded assertion made here. If he spoke out, he also appears as if he's anti-children and a cruel individual. Instead, he remains silent. He doesn't endorse it, he doesn't attempt to get mileage out of it. And all of a sudden he is attacked by right wing nutjobs!
I Guess Obama is Jesus now ?
Xurtanxavi 4 months ago
This this is HORRIBLE WHAT THE LIBERLS ARE DOING TO OUR YOUTH
XXTHE12THMANXX 1 year ago
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(Jesus OOPS! Sorry Jesus is not allowed here!!)
OBAMA loves the little children
All the children of the world
Black and yellow, red and white
They're all precious in His sight
OBAMA loves the little children of the world!
All praise and bow before our dear leader!
These lyrics are actually in that disgusting little cult piece.
SEIUThugs 2 years ago
A term is 4 years
minkxy 2 years ago
clear brainwashing. the liberals have DESTROYED the United States and our children will be slaves to socialism and be robots without their own thoughs. The free world is doomed with liberals brainwashing children in shcool now.
joshuancontrol 3 years ago 2
I love how people call this "brainwashing" kids when I see pictures of my pregnant friends at political rallys with tags like: "my baby is a republican!"... obviously, an unborn baby has a right to life, but not to free thought! Gotta love the conservatives...
nightschemer 3 years ago
Um, a pregnant woman wearing a shirt isn't "brainwashing." And that woman raising her child as a republican isn't either, it's teaching her child the values and ideas she believes in. Gathering children together and having them sing a politician's praises *as a political tool* is SLIGHTLY different.
ISayNukem 2 years ago
These children are our future. They will finally bring an end to redneck power in America and we will join the civilized world. I'm loving it.
ProudAtheistBastard 3 years ago
yes socialism.... the idiology where everyone is equally poor! and you are excited about that! wow you must really be loving it! redneck power ...wow and a racasist ta boot! cuz if you think rednecks are in power you are stuck on stupid! listen pal deal with your racsism and your ignorance of what the civilized weorld is! and then takle subjects like socialism and how children are treated by folks. start with food good! fire hot! build on that
ebilgreby 3 years ago
Everybody is poor right now. And it is all because of runaway capitalism. Well, I suppose there are those who are probably high fiving each other over the shit they pulled on us.
And sir, I am the whitest guy you can imagine. When I say redneck I mean the gun toting, bible thumping fools. The kind of people who would vote for McCain and pass prep 8. You fools would gain the most from socialism.
ProudAtheistBastard 3 years ago
This is America.People have the RIGHT to tote guns and thump bibles,whether you like it or not.And last I saw,the people with JOBS were voting for McCain,and the people riding the welfare system were voting for Obama.What are you TALKING about "you fools would gain the most..."?And there are NUMEROUS programs in place for the needy here, in fact many ABUSE them.Who are you to tell me I have to give up what I earn and produce for someone else?Charity is NOT mandatory. What you want is* larceny*.
ISayNukem 2 years ago
Actually it was government regulations that engineered the banking crisis. But then you would not know that from watching tv.
johnknoefler 2 years ago
"join the civilized world" of North Korea, where they gas families in glass rooms and watch them die because they are Christians, Russia where Stalin killed 20,000,000 of his people without trial. China who is even now wiping out Falun Gong practicioners who simply embrace a unique form of exercise. I think you missed the point. If you love it so much why not just keep it to yourself.. Or better yet go live in one of these "civilized countries"
johnknoefler 2 years ago
Sick... just plan sick.
catherinea4 3 years ago
I'll get out my papers and smile at the sky, 'cause I know that the hypnotized never lie.
HelmutHedd 3 years ago
It's not like the political Right doesn't encourage and have kids singing in favor of them as well. I don't understand why only the Obama's American "left" is focused on in this.
katesterz 3 years ago
Ok, where are the McCain kids? Got a video or link?
*crickets chirping*
We're waiting...
*crickets chirping*
If you can't/won't back your position katesterz, we're going to have to assume that you're a liar...
safework 3 years ago
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gmakepiece 3 years ago
Sorry "safework", my comments were geared to the idiot who keeps using foul language to try and prove his point to you. You really exposed him for who he is!BRAVO again!
kt2teach 3 years ago
I think the real question is-- why the fuck are these kids singing? A presidental term is EIGHT YEARS LONG. Most of these kids won't even be able to vote by the time Barack Obama is out of office. Think about it. I'm 19. I damn sure wasn't singing songs of praise for Bill Clinton or George W Bush to be elected. This is propoganda and the preparation for a transition into communism. Open your minds to the reality of things and not what mainstream media programs into your mind.
iraholmes 3 years ago
The reason that socialism and communism are associated in the American psyche is cold war propaganda that served the double purpose of keeping America in the hands of the wealthy and getting the public to go along with or ignore a number of US orchestrated coups of sovereign governments that were nationalizing industry to keep the money in the hands of their people and out of the hands of already obscenely wealthy Americans who could care less about the countries that they pilfer profits from.
GLeD101 3 years ago
The only difference between socialism and communism is whether or not the state's control over the means of production is direct or indirect. If you don't believe me, there's this document called the communist manifesto, give it a read some time...
safework 3 years ago
I have actually... the problem is that what Marx meant by socialism and what`s labeled as socialism these days are not really the same thing. Listen, I`m not a socialist, a communist a nazi, or an obama supporter, just to make that clear. Also Marx`s communism and/or socialism had very little to do with soviet communism. The idea of dictatorship and all that was brought about by Lenin. If you're to use Marx's view of socialism, how are obama's policies socialist?
GLeD101 3 years ago
Marx-(paraphrased): From each according to his abilities to each according to his need. - wealth redistribution.
Obama-(paraphrased from his recent conversation with a small business owner): "Look, you're rich, it shouldn't be a problem if I tax you more and give that money to someone less fortunate." - wealth redistribution.
Any more bright questions?
Do yourself a favor and read the whole thread before you comment again.
safework 3 years ago
I actually have read the whole thing...but we're not here to defame each other. Anyways, this comment is a great example. Yes, Obama's tax structure favors the middle and lower classes, meaning that it is relatively more left wing or however you want to call it. The thing is that that doesn't make it socialist, because socialism is the extreme application of this economic approach. My point in all this is that it's unfair to use a politicized buzz word like socialist.
GLeD101 3 years ago
to refer to policies that are more left wing than your own world view. There are strong arguments for both sides (liberal and conservative) and you discredit yours by trying to defame the other...just like dems calling bush a fascist (which they frequently do), you only appeal to those who already share your view or are sheep. If you calmly explain why and how you believe these policies will hurt your country, you will be able to create a lot more legitimacy.
GLeD101 3 years ago
That's like calling a woman "just a little bit pregnant". Doesn't work that way. A little bit of wealth distribution is still wealth distribution.
safework 3 years ago
Your argument would be just like saying that a little bit right wing is fascist, which it isn't. You're implying a line where anything that crosses it is socialism. That line is somewhere just left of centre in terms of North American politics. I could just as easily draw the same line and say anything to the right is fascist. I'm not too big a fan of left right politics but it suits the analogy. btw I appreciate your actually having a real debate with me rather than calling me and asshole lol.
GLeD101 3 years ago
You're under the mistaken impression that "right wing" and "fascist" are the same thing. They're not. Conservatives as a breed detest government. My argument stands.
safework 3 years ago
no no no the point is that they are not the same, but I could, if I used a mirror image of your logic argue that they were. My point is simply this: saying that Obama's policies are socialist because "there is no such thing as a little bit pregnant" is the same as saying that conservative policies are fascist. Neither of these things are true, and arguing one opens the door to the other because the logic behind saying right-wingers are fascists is the same as you saying obama's a socialist.
GLeD101 3 years ago
Let's recap...
Marx-(paraphrased): From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need." - wealth redistribution.
Obama-(paraphrased): "Look, you're rich, it shouldn't be a problem if I tax you more and give that money to someone less fortunate." - wealth redistribution.
Obama is following the dictates of Marx. He IS a socialist. Facts are facts and your protestations can't change that. He wants to take from the productive and give to the lazy. Period.
safework 3 years ago
Ya, I'll admit having your kids sing the praises of the candidate that you support for president is kind of uncool...Just like it's uncool to teach children to hate others based on religion, race, sexual preference, or anything else for that matter. Also, Nazis weren't socialists...I know it's in the name, but fascism and socialism (the kind you mean) aren't the same thing. Also socialism and communism aren't the same thing.
GLeD101 3 years ago
How's the Kool-Aid?
safework 3 years ago
hmm I guess that`s an answer. The governments I`m talking about include Chile and Iran btw which were both democracies before US interference.
GLeD101 3 years ago
The communist and socialist governments rely on fascism to keep the citizens in line. It's true that fascism can exist without comm/soc but the comm/soc's can't survive without fascism...
safework 3 years ago
in regards to this one, several socialist (not leninist communist like you're refering to) governments were elected in the 1960s and '70s in various places in the world. These were peaceful, valid governments that were not police states. Ironically in almost every case, these governments were overthrown by fascist, or fascist like governments supported by the US (CIA). If you don't believe me, read about Salvador Aillende in Chile being overthrown by the fascist Pinochet.
GLeD101 3 years ago
Coming down on Obama because some kids sing his praises is just silly. I'm sure in prior elections that kids have been taught to sing for both Democrats and Republicans. All presidential candidates have campaign songs written about (and for) themselves and there are bound to be adults who think it's cute to have kids sing a song.
Would you be so alarmed if somebody produced a tape of kids singing for McCain? I don't think so.
BTW, I'm not an Obama supporter. I dread the day he wins.
CrowTHuman 3 years ago
"Would you be so alarmed if somebody produced a tape of kids singing for McCain? I don't think so."
Show us the video of kids singing for McCain and we'll discuss it. Until then, we'll just have to acknowledge that Obama's cult like following is acting just like Hitler's followers from back in the day.
safework 3 years ago
DO you know what NAZI stands for? National Socialists!
meathead4uu 3 years ago
And the Liberal party are conservatives in Britian and Australia, so what? A name means nothing, especially in 1920's Germany where for a time the party was Socialist or attempted to gain power through manipulating socialist leaning voters while at the same time giving behind closed door guarantees to Capitalists.
It also doesn't seem those Neo-Nazi's like Obama very much, funny that.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
Im guessing you mean change as in Hitler
nationalizing all industrys such as health care and redistributing wealth from people or races that he thought made to much.
PublicYahoo 3 years ago
You're the only one using propaganda here
macca842 3 years ago
National Socialists weren't Socialists. They had a 'socialist' agenda which Hitler never planned to implement, it was just to sweep into power. The rest was right-wing dictatorship! They only allied themselves to Benito Mussolini and against the communists!
dwayne2005 3 years ago
You're wrong. The only difference between the NAZIs and the communists was who had direct control over the means of production.
safework 3 years ago
Safework is wright. That's bull. It was all about German socialism controlling the world, not Russian communism. That's why Hitler allied against them.
Hitler was a violent secular socialist, who did not believe in any form of religion except worship of himself, who wanted to control every means of production in the country+violent imperialism. The farther you go right, the farther you get from government so the farther you are from government led imperialism.
AC101666 3 years ago
Hitler considered himself right wing. His supporters considered his party right wing. Right wing parties endorsed him! Most of his politics were right wing. He discriminated based on class. Most Historians have agreed for decades that he is the right side of the political spectrum. He was not atheist, if he wasn't Christian (which is debatable) he was certainly agnostic.
Whilst not all of his policies were right wing, he considered his party right wing, and he received right wing endorsements.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
...which in the end, is all that really is need to mark him as right wing!
How frequently do you see Democratic Socialists dismiss Stalin or Mao as Socialist? Yet, the right wing is attempting senseless historical revisionism because they can't take the fact that their politics aren't perfection. Fact is, Hitler is right wing. He is at right wing as say the One Nation party in Australia, which is a party that is typically endorsed by the conservatives and seen as xenophobic.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
You're not really bright are you?
Via google:
"Although Volkswagen plays down the connection (who wouldn't?), the company got its start during the Third Reich. ...In the 1930s, Hitler had forced all Germans to enroll in the German Labor Front, and made them pay membership dues. ...Hitler wanted his "Volksauto" built. An ideal spot was found: 10,000 acres that belonged to Count Werner von der Schulenberg. The Reich simply took over the Count's property, including his Castle Wolfsburg..."
safework 3 years ago
This forced 'German Labor Front' was because they outlawed trade unions. The Labor Front didn't guarantee workers their rights, it gave corporations full control and the workers no voice, and wages fell.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
To again quote Hitler:
"...Our fundamental economic principles are, first, to unite all the forces existing, and secondly, to educate our people better in their use.
This Labor Front is the greatest element in such education. You are servants of the nation, but you alone are nothing. As part of the organic whole you are everything...."
(sarc) Nope, nothing socialist there! (/sarc)
Of course wages fell. Everyone took an across the board pay cut in the form of union dues...
safework 3 years ago
From the dictionary:
"socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."
Hate to burst your bubble but Hitler was a textbook example of a socialist. So is Obama.
safework 3 years ago
You're not very bright are you? Hitler and Nazi Germany were Fascist. That's a big difference from socialism.
"fas·cism:often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
bitchlicker4 3 years ago
You think that socialists and communists aren't also fascists? You're deluded. Fascism is a natural extension of both communism and socialism as it's needed to keep the population in step with the government. ie. Hugo Chavez, Stalin, Mao and Hitler
Right-wingers on the other hand are generally free-market capitalists and libertarian as they want less government involvement in our lives. ie. The Founding Fathers.
Your civics teachers should be fired for incompetence.
safework 3 years ago
Fascism is the natural extension of ANY political ideology that goes radical.
CormacWiedersehen 3 years ago
What are you a sixth grader? Go back to class, or at least read a book and learn something about what you are spouting instead of making it up as you go along.
bitchlicker4 3 years ago
Are you really asserting that the founding fathers were all about autocratic dictatorial control and that Stalin, Mao and pals were all about freedom and democracy and smaller government? Seriously?
Wait... lemmie guess... It must be "backwards day" at your mental institution.
Do yourself a favor; Read both the U.S. Constitution and the Communist Manifesto and then come back and tell the group which one extols the virtue of absolute government control and which does not.
safework 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? You really are stupid. I never said anything about the US or "Stalin, Mao and pals". All I did was point out that the Nazi's weren't Com/Soc, they were Fascist. Never said I was in favor of either system. Now you've gone from making up facts (i.e. Fascist = Communist), to making up arguments. Wow, pull your head out of your ass and take a breath of fresh air.
bitchlicker4 3 years ago
I'll type slower this time so you can keep up, ok?
Brother Hugo's socialist Venezuela puts the nation (the collective) above the individual in that the state's rights supersede the rights of the individual. ie the expropriation of farm land and private business in the name of the collective. It was also autocratic in that the "state", currently in the form of "Brother Hugo" is the ultimate authority.
contd...
safework 3 years ago
Hugo fits your definition of a fascist to a "T".
Stalin, Hitler and Mao all used the exact same model, not as a lifestyle choice, but because it's required in order to suppress the individual in favor of "the collective".
Humans are born as individuals with free will and the only way to make them march lock step with "Soc/Com" ideology is to use authoritative force. Fascism.
You may not like it but it's a fact. "Soc/Com" cannot exist without fascism.
safework 3 years ago
Dude, you are an idiot. You fit the definition of idiot to a tee. Let me spell it out for you, I don't care about Brother Hugo (whoever the fuck that is), Stalin, Mao, Obama or your mamma. I also don't give a rats ass about your retarded video. I also don't care that you're to dumb to understand the difference between Communism and Fascism. Ok, GET IT? Stop arguing with me about stupid shit and people I don't give a shit about. Communism IS NOT the same as Fascism. Read a book, learn something
bitchlicker4 3 years ago
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you make a MoonBat's head explode.
safework 3 years ago
(I shouldn't kick a man when he's down but what the hell)
"Brother Hugo" is the tin-pot dictator of Venezuela who recently took over his country and converted it to socialism. It's been in the news. Maybe you missed it.
No one said that "soc/com" and fascism were the same. Only that they go hand in hand. They're like different sides of the same coin. Can't have the 1st without the 2nd.
For someone who keeps calling others dumb, you don't seem to know a lot...
safework 3 years ago
Well, hey at least you finally admitted that communism and fascism aren't the same thing. Maybe morons can learn something. As far as your Bro there, yeah I missed it. Why? Because I don't give a fuck. Just one more shit pot dictator in S.A. But they have oil, so someday we'll go down there and bomb the shit out 'em. Either way, it's just one more thing you brought up for no reason. The point is, you finally admitted you are WRONG. Now drop dead dumbass.
bitchlicker4 3 years ago
Well, would ya look at that... Two head explosions from the same MoonBat in the same day...
...Guess I shouldn't have given that last kick... the poor bastard is probably freebasing valume just to maintain some sort of equilibrium...
safework 3 years ago
BRAVO!!!
kt2teach 3 years ago
You are the perfect POSTER CHILD and example of the calliber of people voting for OBAMA. Your low class disrespect for an adult and educated debate proves it. NOBODY TOLD YOU TO WATCH THIS. Just shut off your computer!
kt2teach 3 years ago
Hitler gave the control to Capitalists, and exercised a little control over corporations and upper class individuals for his own and parties benefit. He was pro-middle class from the start, and never really gave a toss about the lower class workers.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
To quote Hitler himself:
"If I had wished I could have substituted officials for employers, but nature and reality select best. We do not wish bureaucratic economics as in Russia, nor do we wish to establish economic democracy here.
Yet that does not mean either that we wish to let things drift as they please..."
Like I said earlier, the only difference between nazi socialism and communism was who had direct control over the means of production.
safework 3 years ago
dianaw9999, McCain isn't a socialist so sadly he doesn't use children to sway voters.
Conkyburger 3 years ago 2
Crucial flaw in the whole argument: Obama didn't even sanction this! If I were American, I'd feel pretty outraged with this misrepresentation. It is a grassroots thing done up by a Dem supporter not endorsed by Obama or the Democrats.
dwayne2005 3 years ago
plausible deniability... I also notice he hasnt come forward to seperate himself from these fanatics.
k98230 3 years ago
That's is assuming that he even knows about them.
CormacWiedersehen 3 years ago
It's the kind of argument that will always go against Obama. If he spoke out, he's saying these people are communist without any proof of the matter--just justifying the unfounded assertion made here. If he spoke out, he also appears as if he's anti-children and a cruel individual. Instead, he remains silent. He doesn't endorse it, he doesn't attempt to get mileage out of it. And all of a sudden he is attacked by right wing nutjobs!
dwayne2005 3 years ago
Point made. Where are the McCain munchkin singers?
dianaw9999 3 years ago