@manyoshi yeah the martial art is known as ninjutsu. bujinkan actually translates to "divine warrior training hall" we also sometimes call it budo or bujutsu
bujinkan is a school that CLAIMS to teach ninjutsu...
it has NEVER shown ANY EVIDENCE for this claim... nor have they shown any interest in proving their claim.
Hatsumi's teacher takamatsu made up a fictional person ( Toda Masamitsu Shinryuken) and said that he was taught ninjutsu by him... this wasn't until AFTER he had told hatsumi, and tanemura that the taijutsu was belonging to 'kukishin ryu ninpo'...
If one looks at any style around the world, and go down to the root technique you will find that all styles from around the world have many similarities, if not exactly the same. each style however changes these roots to form something an art that's right for their culture and right for their abilities.
i don't know if ninja (shinobi) existed but i do know that a lot of the techniques in bujinkan are practical and bloody hurt so does it really matter if the history isn't crystal clear fact is it works in the present day isn't that what matters argue that your style is better and bujinkan isn't practical but i think everyone can admit there are some techniques in any style that aren't bujinkan included so just try to keep that in mind and just have fun training in whatever style you like (peace)
Muito boa a apresentação...percebi que terei de treinar muitos anos a fio para chegar ao mesmo nivel de voces!!! Esse video me serviu de inspiração e modelo a ser seguido. Muito obrigado.
what many ppl here fail to see is that Bujinkan is NOT just Ninjutsu...Bujinkan is composed of 9 Schools and at least 3 of them have techniques originating in Chinese martial arts...what many also fails to see is that there are Samurai techniques used within Bujinkan, and I suppose you can't argue about the legality of the existence of the Samurais, now can you? they did exist...and the so called Ninjas or Ronins were Samurais without Honour who had no master they served, they worked freelance
ninpo existed before the history books say so; definitavely, it must've. the similarities to types of chinese arts is probably because of a common ancestor. the "samurai techniques" are just techniques and are borrowed and adapted from previous forms of budo taijutsu. they are not specific to the samurai. the nine schools make up the bujinkan and in turn, make ninjutsu. a ninja must learn every way to react and then put it to the back of the mind, acting only through the void.
Actually...although almost all of their movements one might say are taijutsu techniques or at least quite close, these quys seem to practice taijutsu like their practicing kung fu...I've never came across choreographies or forms(I am not saying kata or kihon cause they're not) like that during bujinkan training or even demo from any dojo so far...However, I cannot deny it's a pleasue for the eye...
Take it from a guy who teaches Bujinkan and spend 4 years living and training in Japan, the heart of the style is not about looking good or athletic like this video portrays. Yes, flips and big rolls and etc. are in the art but if you use them in a fight you are in most cases either escaping or nearing the end of your life.
Bujinkan is not about looking good. In fact it looks like crap to most people because they don't understand it. And what you don't understand can hurt you. (Easily.)
@Niffer016 what the hell you on about? theres no taijutsu in this video? its full of it my friend.maybe cos its done at a proper speed u cant see it..
"weapons" like boshiken with which nobody smart would hit a opponent.
and, also, the punch at training should be started by the uke from Shizen no kamae (natural posture) from a little further then the arms length and not all the time from ichimonji no kamae. as a matter of fact, i'm beginning to think the quality of the ukes attacks are usually a good way to judge if a dojo is of good quality or if it's a mc dojo. hope that answered your question.
the punch is more of a push that comes from the structure of the kamae then a actual punch. it has the impact part that the regular punch has but it also has a more important pushing part. i hit a guy from kyokushin 30kg larger then me in the chest and i still pushed him back 2 meters or so (it wasn't a fight, he didn't think the punch was effective so i asked if i ca show him). also, after 2 of them he didn't want to receive another.
the pushing part i'm beginning to think is also why there are
Bujinkan encompasses fighting in all ranges: striking range, trapping range, grappling, weapons, etc... But it isn't really GOOD at any of them. Its an overly traditional style that never evolved, and hence suffers as a form of self defense. If your art is still using the same training methods that didn't work 100 years ago, don't expect it to be effective for combat. All you're doing is learning some history.
even though it might not be effective in combat, as in a war, it can still be effective for defending yourself. If you want to learn modern combat techniques you should learn Marine Corps fighting....Karate and any other martial art is such as Bujinkan is a way of self defence, not war...and btw, if Bujinkan is outdated because of the weapons used, then what is e.g. taekwondo where there are no weapons???
please, learn the difference between combat and self defence
I've trained in TKD for more than 15yrs and trained in BJJ and sparred with MMA guys too and I would like to say nice transitions between 1:25 through 1:32 I think that's it, over all pretty damn good man. I've been studying Ninjutsu through books and life experiences. Looking forward to getting into the Bujinkan too when work picks back up. :)
Unfortunately, it does not depend entirely on the person. It depends far more on their training. If they train in an effective manner, utilising progressive resistance and sparring with a decent level of contact and incorporating all ranges of combat, they will have a solid set of fundamentals with which to defend themselves.
If they train against mainly compliant opponents and do not test themselves against someone who is actually trying to defeat them, they will not have that base.
"Things that are practical" when it comes to martial arts are techniques which have a high success rate against a resisting, fighting opponent. You have no way of knowing what is practical and what is not unless you utilise some form of sparring or alive training.
What looks good for the crowd is irrelevant. For example, the vast majority of high-percentage techniques utilised in MMA are not pleasing to anyone without a practiced eye.
It cannot be considered an effective fighting system to the same degree many of those "sports" are.
What you fail to realise is that the arts in themselves in many cases are not sports. The fact that they have a competitive outlet does not make them "sports".
What you also fail to realise is that the training undergone by practitioners of full-contact combat sports resembles an actual fight to a much greater degree than does any Bujinkan training, just by being spontaneous and full-contact.
Authenticity requires relevance. Relevance requires training that resembles, and therefore prepares you for, the situation in which you intend to use it.
Can you legitimately make that claim about your training?
"Your instructor" isn't you. You're planning to use the techniques to defend yourself? You need experience using them in something other than a compliant drill. It's that simple.
It's not even a matter of taking your instructor at his word; you will NOT have experience relevant to a fight unless you have tested and improved your skills in a spontaneous, contact situation.
Untrue. The sports vs street argument is logically fallacious by its very nature.
Unless your system utilises a form of training which more closely emulates an actual confrontation than, for example, a full-contact MMA fight, rules are irrelevant.
It is the height of irony and hypocrisy to dismiss arts like Boxing, Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai as "Sports inhibited by rules" when your own system of training resembles an actual fight even less.
i wanted to know how would 1st degree black belt or brown belt ninjitsu do agianst who was a first degree blackbelt in bjj judo sambo wrestling(freestyle) muay thai tkd and how would it do against these arts sepratley plz answer asap and anyone else reading plz answer
Fighting, hurting someone, to kill or to Be killed .. Defending yourself or just doing nothing.. For me a true martial Artist: Mahadma Gandi ... He kicked the British out of his country without fighting... So what are this childish argumentations all about? Some people just train history... And the history of man is drenched in blood...
to be a "martial artist" you have to practice the art of war. which Gandi did not. pacifism only works if you're A: willing to let someone kill you without resisting (in which case you don't think your life is worth defending) or B: you're willing to let someone else do your killing for you when you won't fight for your life but you expect someone else to do it for you. pacifism is irresponsible. it's a nice thought but those who can't kill will always be subject to those that can.
i agree with you partially because Ghandi had a lot of heart and guts to let others kill him for proclaiming peace, but the fact that Ghandi didnt value his own life by letting others kill him really makes me mad because hes simply gone, leaving his loved ones weeping in sorrow for the way he died, instead of running away somewhere else to start a new life.
im a member of the bujinkan kyodai dojo in minnesota. i must say you did a pretty good job on this video. how ever in the future add more about Masaki Hatsume soke. thank you
ninjutsu is the old mother of ju jitsu aikido, karate and judo
this martial arts are competetive sports
not bujinkan...in bujinkan you can get killed.
you must read and watch some videos you will see that the techniques are show slow but if you put some speed on that technique you are goddammit kill. so good luck.
No. Ninjutsu is NOT the mother of any of those arts. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu is an amalgamation of Koryu Jujutsu arts and two or three Ryu with tenuous links to Ninpo.
You won't get killed in Bujinkan. Its practitioners train in a manner so far from effective it's ridiculous. In order to train to fight, you have to learn to fight.
those arts have been influenced by ninjutsu. i can garantee one thing if someone attacks you and he is most strong than you is impossible to sourvive but with ninjutsu budo taijutsu or with bujinkan's technics i can tell you that i can kick his f... ass. you must start training maybe you will understand something of ninjutsu.
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Uh, no. Koryu Jujutsu arts were NOT AT ALL influenced my Ninjutsu. It was in fact the complete opposite..
I've been training in the martial arts for nearly two decades. It only took two years of Bujinkan training to convince me that it was nowhere near as effective as the Boxing, Kickboxing, Judo, Reality-Based Self-Defence and BJJ I've done since.
so in your opinion boxing ? and kickboxing? is better then bujinkan budo taijutsu have you really trained bujinkan ? because bujinkan budo taijutsu is more then just some martial art like kickboxing it's a way of life.
Way of life? That's irrelevant. The primary function of any martial art should be to improve and build upon fighting ability. Philosophical belief systems are irrelevant to fighting ability.
I never said they were better from a philosophical viewpoint. That is nothing to do with what I am arguing. I am saying that, in general, despite the rules by which they compete the arts actually prepare their practitioners better for combat than the "deadly" Bujinkan because of their training methodology.
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And I can guarantee one thing; three months of Judo and Boxing will prepare you much better for dealing with a bigger, stronger opponent than three years of Bujinkan training could.
actually, many japanese jujutsu schools predate ninjutsu. the samurai and their unarmed jujutsu existed several centuries before ninjutsu was created. not to mention the bujinkan as an organization is actually pretty recent less than a hundred years ago. not bashing, just stating a fact. i'm a japanese history major.
Pretty sure I saw a ninjutsu guy in one of early UFCs, sadly his mount to armbar wasn't 'too lethal'...
And no, ninjutsu is not the parent style of jujutsu or judo, and certainly not karate. In fact the history is pretty shaky over whether ninjas actually existed at all. What we do know is that Bujinkan is entirely the creation of Hatsumi and of the C20th.
@Bujinkanrulez From my experience in submission wrestling and Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu, I say that you can get killed in those arts very easily if someone decided to do so.
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you dont use a sword in jiujitsu...i train it. And there are no punches or hardly any at all. Just grappling techniques. This so called bujinkan are just some guys that have taken stuff from jiujitsu and other martial arts and put the name bujinkan on it. that is lame, why invite a new art when there already are others that are much better...
actually you are TOTALY correct , only that its the other way, jujutsu , judo , and other martial arts have "taken" their stuff from bujinkan.... the name bujinkan is new yes, but it is just to get a short name instead of saying the names of all nine schools. * Gyokko Ryu Kosshijutsu Togakure Ryu Ninpo Kukishinden Ryu Happo Bikenjutsu Koto Ryu Koppojutsu Shindenfudo Ryu Dakentaijutsu Takagi Yoshin Ryu Jutaijutsu Gyokushin Ryu Ninpo Gikan Ryu Koppojutsu Kumogakure Ryu Ninpo *
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I have never heard of Bujinkan before after I saw this video. That it would be the ancestor of jujitsu is a joke. Jujitsu developed during the sengoku jidai period in Japan. 15th century. It was used when a samurai lost his sword and needed to defend himself. All videos I have seen here on youtube only shows white Americans use this so called art Bujinkan. So that it would be the ancestor of jujitsu no way buddy. Also ninjutsu was a art for the assasins. Also developed during 15th century.
There is no historical evidence to back that up, nor is there evidence of any link between the Togakure ryu as practiced then and Takamatsu.
Maybe if Hatsumi actually agreed to get his scrolls verified, he might gain some credibility. Or perhaps he knows inside that he never inherited Sokeship of those Ryu....
backupor, or maybe it has something to do with the fact that the guy who runs the museum that would give it credibility claims to train "koga ryu" which according to everyone but him and a few select retards under mcdojos, has died out.
so obviously that guy would say that the scrolls were fake...it benefits him. which is why hatsumi sensei doesnt do it.
What a crock of shit! Hatsumi refuses to have the scrolls verified by ANY external historian. The museum is completely and totally irrelevant. Hatsumi has something to hide.
yeah right, because in jiujitsu u use sword, punches and kicks... but in you mean the drops etc, it could also be judo, but no, it is budo taijutsu...
wrong, bujinkan is a collection of nine very old schools of ninjutsu. the oldest being Togakure Ryu which goes back 34 generations. at least thats as far as records allow
Its now a fact that hatsumi is an impostor and bujinkan a fraudulent society. His claims as "soke" are unfounded and not certificated by the japanese DAI NIPPON BUTOKU KAI
If I was to make a video about the Bujinkan I would use very tranquil, harmonious traditional Japanese music, making use of the shamisen and other Japanese instruments.
Hacéis un trabajo de golpeo muy bueno, pero el trabajo de llaves es demasiado rápido. Teneis que acompasaros al adversario en este terreno. De todas formas, la lacra que lleva arrastrando la Bujinkan son los ataques de tori: esos fudokenes no os los encontraréis nunca en un adversario callejero, y mucho menos si sabe artes marciales.
That's the reason I think: sparring. A lot of sparring. If possible, against this kind of adversary. I like Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu a lot, I know it was developed for surviving and war, but exactly for this reason, MUST HAVE to work against other MA and street fighters (our present danger these days)
gracias por el comentario. Desgraciadamente, no se leer en inglés, y dado que tú sí sabes español, te agradecería que tuvieras la educación de responderme en el idioma que he escrito. Gracias.
Esa es la razón que penso: sparring. Una gran cantidad de sparring. Si posible, contra todo tipo de adversario. Me gusta mucho el Budo Taijutsu Bujinkan, e sé que se ha desarrollado para sobrevivir y para la guerra, pero precisamente por esta razón, debe tener que entrenar contra adversarios de otras artes marciales y otros combatientes de la calle (que son nuestro presente peligro en estos días).
Well, most of the videos are of Shihan Carlos Etchegaray(Argentina), Shidoshi Tiago Hasselman(ES, Brasil) and Shidoshi Simão Freitas(PB, Brasil), and are true Bujinkan. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, is a traditional martial art, and should be respected, as well. And martial arts are more than just a way to learn how to hurt others. In it's essence, martial arts exists to avoid war, and not to start then. Think about it.
Martial arts are, inherently (by use of the word martial) about fighting. The focus should always be fighting.
If you want philosophy, I think it should be done totally seperately.
But the martial arts are about fighting to live another day. As such, the focus should ALWAYS be on being able to fight, and knowing you can fight. For that purpose, extensive full-contact testing is required.
The Bujinkan, in most cases, does not offer this. Therefore I do not consider it effective.
That's such a nice post, fukwhore. Nice account name, too. Really shows the qualities of your overall character. Mate, you will never amount to much in this life if you don't start making some personal changes soon...I'm guessing your impatient, from the spelling, and have been victimized at some stage in life. I'm not gloating. I don't think you deserve it. This is the martial arts...it's here to help you get over yourself and start a happier life. Self-defense is not even the beginning, bro..
Yes, nicerebound. You can only really practice it a few times full power, if that. It wrecks the shoulder. It's not complicated whatsoever. Very practical. Very effective.
Bujinkan it's composed from teachings of Nine schools, 3 of them being Ninjutsu only. Others are Taijutsu and etc, and share common techniques with other koryu systems (generically called "Jujutsu" when historically treated).
This would have worked better with the soundtrack to "Breakdance, the movie". The little known 10th school of ninjitsu is making your opponent laugh so hard he is incapable of fighting. 2 D34dly 4 U !!!
all martial art did their evolution, changed and added a few techniques so there is other way to learn it B4 comments,i just started Bujikan budo Taijutsu,did taekwondo,and for now i realy enjoy that new style of combat,they prefer to roll on the ground to avoid hit then risk a bad landing and lost the fight.U must know that this one is a survival mode so they fight basic but deadly,if u dont kill,submission or break an arm,leg.U wont see any master doing some hotshot to risk the fight result
lol. Wow.. witty comeback. I especially love how you build your ideas.. Too bad you don't prove anyhting with facts.
By the way, history is study of the past, particulary the written records.And before there were written records, time is considered prehistoric. So how the hell aren't scrolls enough evidence to prove anything? Or would you rather the world take your flimsy accusations which haven't been supported by ANY evidence?
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cassandra im not really seeing any facts from your end either. i also don't recall making any comments about the scrolls, at least on this video, but regaurdless im not sure how your explanation of history and pre-history substantiates or verifies them. they are just some scrolls. im honestly just not impressed by a foggy history taught by someone with vested financial interest.
is it that much to ask that we see this stuff work in full contact confrontations before accepting its effectivity?
without full contact face punches, stand up strategy is completely different. landing a body strike becomes the primary goal, and doing so is done at the cost of exposing the face (because its illegal to punch full force).
ninjutsu stresses the importance that rules play as a factor in combat strategy, yet your actual sparing sessions do not include full power punches to the face.
Good. Because that's the only way that, first of all, you'll ever be proficient enough to use it in an actual confrontation, and secondly have the confidence of knowing it works.
yeh dude how can you learn to defend against some drunk motherfucker throwing wild haymakers at ya if you only learn lunge punches!! if you out on the town thats prob the most common attack. we train with the attacker trying 2 hit in face!!! if you fuck up you know!! if my spelling sux i dnt care
Think about that most of the Bujinkan train the reflexes not a certain type of situation YOU are the one who decide where and when is effective to apply a techniche. If you dont recognize the moment you gotta do is some more training mate. And, keep in mind that martial arts, besides what everybody says, are arts that were developed in times of war, not to point a everyday situation. Also they were developed in times were gunpowder were almost unapplyable.
thats the thing, you avoid direct punches to the face. a real stand up confrontation usually boils down to the face punching competition. its hurts the most in training because it hurts the most in real life. if you aren't training to hit someone in the face, you are skipping over the most important aspect of unarmed stand up combat.
is it dangerous, painfull, and a bit barbaric...yes. training to fight always is if its legit
it all depends on the master, for example the shidoshi that teahces me has knocked me out more than 3 times, i've had more than one injury that needed a cast and my mouth has bled hundreds od times, he really gives the intention of harming the other a big point during practice, because on the street they won't throw you a slow motion punch... but i've seen shidoshis that don't seem to realize that, and when you train with them you don't feel it is real, my trainings are very didactic... :)
how is it tag? we probably use 3/4 of you guys and aviod direct punches to the face.. though it still happens occasionaly, atleast where im trained.. like i said i dont know about other schools.
not usualy, only when were getting really combative and my teacher thinks it isnt looking safe for the people training.
then again, im pretty sure im learning ninjutsu with some jujutsu in it.. because the ground fighting we do looks more like mma stuff than any other martial art ive seen.
You don't see many ninjutsu artists coming on to MMA and jujutsu videos to flame it do you? so how come we get oodles of you fucking with us? how about keep your mouth shut and prove that you are better than us when you actsualy get a chance to fight/spar with a person who takes ninjutsu...
yeah every ninjutsu guy has some story about his heroic street battle. if you guys are so sneaky and generally try to avoid fighting, how come your getting attacked all the time?
don't you guys pride yourself in avoiding fights if its possible. pretty much all the starts ive been in i started or did something dumb to provoke.
you the kind of nerds that would exergerate some shove-slap fest till its the battle of the ages.
im not trying to shame the art but it sems that bunjikan ninjitsu seems far more effective on one of its own than of a gangster on the sreet who has a very different syle of fighting. But never the less nicely done
bujinkan is the product of master scam artist hatsumi masaaki. He claims some ninja lineage thats shrouded in mystery...give me a break. Real fighters have fight records, not ancient scrolls.
and real fights never look anything like this. Theres a reason every respectable boxer, cagefighter, wrestler, BJJ grappler, kickboxer etc. laughs at this crap. the ninjas you think you emulate would have laughed at this. and in all likelihood, hatsumi is laughing all the way to the bank.
And you, my friend, are the product of a dumb mutt who just happened to cross a desperate woman pathetic enough to do anything for money..
Thankfully, after all these years, you have finally obtained the ability and knowledge to at least show the world how stupid you really are. Congratulations. Would you like to prove yourself further because there may be some, less gullible idiots in this world quite dubious to the actual immensity of your stupidity.
I hace to say it's one of the best videos of ninjutsu that saw
my congratulations to you.
I stusy with ine if the most importants shihans of Argentina since I was 19, and after 15 years of training I can say this art change my life, and save it in some ocations too.
I've practice taekwan do , judo , kung fu , but this is very particular , it's like no other.
It comes down to the practitioner, not the style - ninjutsu has a large focus on weapons, same as Eskrima - having done both there's actually a lot of similarities in the footwork taught and the theory behind how to fight. They're both practical, tried and tested styles, to say one is superior to another is silly.
and if you want to get more practical a real bujinkan master can kill any martial arts expert because he would do it when the other one sleeps at night, lets not forget the 3 objectives of the ninja, espionage, sabotage and asesination
In case you didn't know (which you obviously don't), it's referred to as "Escrima" or "Eskrima". And I'm assuming by your lack of knowledge expressed for either style in your post, you surely aren't qualified to decide which is actually better. You're a moron. Congratulations.
I was asking my Sensei the other day about why there were no Ninjutsu Tournaments. And he told me "The art is to deadly to play with it, train it to win and survive... not for geting trophies." his words were very interesting and worthy to be remembered.
thanks for the tribute , that was hilarious !!!!! cant beleive people still beleive in this.
jamesinct 18 hours ago
ESPECTACULAR !!!
bujinkangojodojo 6 months ago
@manyoshi yeah the martial art is known as ninjutsu. bujinkan actually translates to "divine warrior training hall" we also sometimes call it budo or bujutsu
crzysnoman 1 year ago
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@crzysnoman funny story.
the art in this video isn't ninjutsu.
way back in the 50's takamatsu was frustrated no young people wanted to learn kukishin ryu that he had learned, kodokan judo was VERY popular.
so he sought to increase the curriculum by adding kata from 'karate todejutsu' (since shortend to karate).
now he had a kukishin karate hybrid, and he started refering to it as ninpo.
kukishin ryu was not pleased. so he made up Toda Shinryuken teaching him togakure ryu as a kid...
Arteanor 8 months ago
Bujinkan is NOT a martial art. It's a school that teaches in NINJUTSU in Japan. Founded by Masaaki Hatsumi Soke.
Manyoshi 1 year ago
@Manyoshi yeah the martial art is known as ninjutsu. bujinkan actually translates to "divine warrior training hall"
crzysnoman 1 year ago
@Manyoshi
bujinkan is a school that CLAIMS to teach ninjutsu...
it has NEVER shown ANY EVIDENCE for this claim... nor have they shown any interest in proving their claim.
Hatsumi's teacher takamatsu made up a fictional person ( Toda Masamitsu Shinryuken) and said that he was taught ninjutsu by him... this wasn't until AFTER he had told hatsumi, and tanemura that the taijutsu was belonging to 'kukishin ryu ninpo'...
there is no ninjutsu in the bujinkan.
Arteanor 8 months ago
2.41 call that punching...over stylized crap which is taught badly in most cases.
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
the video is great , greeting from argentina
budosarutobi 1 year ago
If one looks at any style around the world, and go down to the root technique you will find that all styles from around the world have many similarities, if not exactly the same. each style however changes these roots to form something an art that's right for their culture and right for their abilities.
peace and respect,
max
maxcorp8 1 year ago
i don't know if ninja (shinobi) existed but i do know that a lot of the techniques in bujinkan are practical and bloody hurt so does it really matter if the history isn't crystal clear fact is it works in the present day isn't that what matters argue that your style is better and bujinkan isn't practical but i think everyone can admit there are some techniques in any style that aren't bujinkan included so just try to keep that in mind and just have fun training in whatever style you like (peace)
TomTheCarMan 1 year ago
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TomTheCarMan 1 year ago
Muito boa a apresentação...percebi que terei de treinar muitos anos a fio para chegar ao mesmo nivel de voces!!! Esse video me serviu de inspiração e modelo a ser seguido. Muito obrigado.
Fel89pe 1 year ago
where is the bujinkan?
ScarredFatality 1 year ago
what many ppl here fail to see is that Bujinkan is NOT just Ninjutsu...Bujinkan is composed of 9 Schools and at least 3 of them have techniques originating in Chinese martial arts...what many also fails to see is that there are Samurai techniques used within Bujinkan, and I suppose you can't argue about the legality of the existence of the Samurais, now can you? they did exist...and the so called Ninjas or Ronins were Samurais without Honour who had no master they served, they worked freelance
DeathWarrant90 1 year ago
@DeathWarrant90
ninpo existed before the history books say so; definitavely, it must've. the similarities to types of chinese arts is probably because of a common ancestor. the "samurai techniques" are just techniques and are borrowed and adapted from previous forms of budo taijutsu. they are not specific to the samurai. the nine schools make up the bujinkan and in turn, make ninjutsu. a ninja must learn every way to react and then put it to the back of the mind, acting only through the void.
bdkelevra 1 year ago
Actually...although almost all of their movements one might say are taijutsu techniques or at least quite close, these quys seem to practice taijutsu like their practicing kung fu...I've never came across choreographies or forms(I am not saying kata or kihon cause they're not) like that during bujinkan training or even demo from any dojo so far...However, I cannot deny it's a pleasue for the eye...
khrafstra 1 year ago
Nice video :)
moonbar33 1 year ago
Take it from a guy who teaches Bujinkan and spend 4 years living and training in Japan, the heart of the style is not about looking good or athletic like this video portrays. Yes, flips and big rolls and etc. are in the art but if you use them in a fight you are in most cases either escaping or nearing the end of your life.
Bujinkan is not about looking good. In fact it looks like crap to most people because they don't understand it. And what you don't understand can hurt you. (Easily.)
chebernook 1 year ago 2
do you really do those flips and kind of stuffs inte this Martial art?
Andreith24 1 year ago
one of the best Bujinkan videos i ever seen!!!
GOOD JOB!!
BlackwingPowerXX1234 1 year ago
wtf is thsi video?
these stunst have nothing to do with buyinkan or ninjutsu
and there is no taijustsu in the video
Niffer016 1 year ago
@Niffer016 what the hell you on about? theres no taijutsu in this video? its full of it my friend.maybe cos its done at a proper speed u cant see it..
leogets2006 1 year ago
I went to my first ever bujinkan lesson last night...a long way to go!
whyteay 1 year ago
y yo estoy orgulloso de pertenecer a bujinkan yasha dojo budotijutsu
ikkai911 2 years ago
Estoy orgulloso de decir que entreno con el sensei que aparece en la mayoria de las escenas :) (carlos etchegaray)
mierdacacaneutro 2 years ago
"weapons" like boshiken with which nobody smart would hit a opponent.
and, also, the punch at training should be started by the uke from Shizen no kamae (natural posture) from a little further then the arms length and not all the time from ichimonji no kamae. as a matter of fact, i'm beginning to think the quality of the ukes attacks are usually a good way to judge if a dojo is of good quality or if it's a mc dojo. hope that answered your question.
junkahoolik 2 years ago
the punch is more of a push that comes from the structure of the kamae then a actual punch. it has the impact part that the regular punch has but it also has a more important pushing part. i hit a guy from kyokushin 30kg larger then me in the chest and i still pushed him back 2 meters or so (it wasn't a fight, he didn't think the punch was effective so i asked if i ca show him). also, after 2 of them he didn't want to receive another.
the pushing part i'm beginning to think is also why there are
junkahoolik 2 years ago
lol, at 1:30!!!
chinahandyfreak 2 years ago
I could show you.
I cannot explain though without showing it.
kenninast 2 years ago
Bujinkan encompasses fighting in all ranges: striking range, trapping range, grappling, weapons, etc... But it isn't really GOOD at any of them. Its an overly traditional style that never evolved, and hence suffers as a form of self defense. If your art is still using the same training methods that didn't work 100 years ago, don't expect it to be effective for combat. All you're doing is learning some history.
glutn4punshmnt 2 years ago
even though it might not be effective in combat, as in a war, it can still be effective for defending yourself. If you want to learn modern combat techniques you should learn Marine Corps fighting....Karate and any other martial art is such as Bujinkan is a way of self defence, not war...and btw, if Bujinkan is outdated because of the weapons used, then what is e.g. taekwondo where there are no weapons???
please, learn the difference between combat and self defence
DeathWarrant90 2 years ago
I've trained in TKD for more than 15yrs and trained in BJJ and sparred with MMA guys too and I would like to say nice transitions between 1:25 through 1:32 I think that's it, over all pretty damn good man. I've been studying Ninjutsu through books and life experiences. Looking forward to getting into the Bujinkan too when work picks back up. :)
ghostb72 2 years ago
Unfortunately, it does not depend entirely on the person. It depends far more on their training. If they train in an effective manner, utilising progressive resistance and sparring with a decent level of contact and incorporating all ranges of combat, they will have a solid set of fundamentals with which to defend themselves.
If they train against mainly compliant opponents and do not test themselves against someone who is actually trying to defeat them, they will not have that base.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
"Things that are practical" when it comes to martial arts are techniques which have a high success rate against a resisting, fighting opponent. You have no way of knowing what is practical and what is not unless you utilise some form of sparring or alive training.
What looks good for the crowd is irrelevant. For example, the vast majority of high-percentage techniques utilised in MMA are not pleasing to anyone without a practiced eye.
Most are also directly translatable to a fight.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
It cannot be considered an effective fighting system to the same degree many of those "sports" are.
What you fail to realise is that the arts in themselves in many cases are not sports. The fact that they have a competitive outlet does not make them "sports".
What you also fail to realise is that the training undergone by practitioners of full-contact combat sports resembles an actual fight to a much greater degree than does any Bujinkan training, just by being spontaneous and full-contact.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
Authenticity requires relevance. Relevance requires training that resembles, and therefore prepares you for, the situation in which you intend to use it.
Can you legitimately make that claim about your training?
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
"Your instructor" isn't you. You're planning to use the techniques to defend yourself? You need experience using them in something other than a compliant drill. It's that simple.
It's not even a matter of taking your instructor at his word; you will NOT have experience relevant to a fight unless you have tested and improved your skills in a spontaneous, contact situation.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
Untrue. The sports vs street argument is logically fallacious by its very nature.
Unless your system utilises a form of training which more closely emulates an actual confrontation than, for example, a full-contact MMA fight, rules are irrelevant.
It is the height of irony and hypocrisy to dismiss arts like Boxing, Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai as "Sports inhibited by rules" when your own system of training resembles an actual fight even less.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
i wanted to know how would 1st degree black belt or brown belt ninjitsu do agianst who was a first degree blackbelt in bjj judo sambo wrestling(freestyle) muay thai tkd and how would it do against these arts sepratley plz answer asap and anyone else reading plz answer
aktivenatrraktiv 2 years ago
Answer: Bujinkan practitioner would be roflowned.
No art which trains in a compliant manner like the Bujinkan does can ever claim such a level of effectiveness as arts like Judo and Sambo.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
My Fav Martial art....
I think its bedder then Karate and Kung Fu
xemnas7777777 2 years ago
"Bedder," are you kidding?
onixz100 2 years ago
no i dont kidding you :D^^ xDDD
But the truth is...
any martial art can beat any martial art!
it depends on people
xemnas7777777 2 years ago
Awesome! So my handstand-and-kick fu will make me beat any practitioner of any art, so long as I have the courage?
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
hmmmm... if they are so stupid then not ;D
xemnas7777777 2 years ago
art aint about technique its about feeling..
ninjanoka 2 years ago
Fighting, hurting someone, to kill or to Be killed .. Defending yourself or just doing nothing.. For me a true martial Artist: Mahadma Gandi ... He kicked the British out of his country without fighting... So what are this childish argumentations all about? Some people just train history... And the history of man is drenched in blood...
Illium75 2 years ago
to be a "martial artist" you have to practice the art of war. which Gandi did not. pacifism only works if you're A: willing to let someone kill you without resisting (in which case you don't think your life is worth defending) or B: you're willing to let someone else do your killing for you when you won't fight for your life but you expect someone else to do it for you. pacifism is irresponsible. it's a nice thought but those who can't kill will always be subject to those that can.
mdrsrsmd 2 years ago
i agree with you partially because Ghandi had a lot of heart and guts to let others kill him for proclaiming peace, but the fact that Ghandi didnt value his own life by letting others kill him really makes me mad because hes simply gone, leaving his loved ones weeping in sorrow for the way he died, instead of running away somewhere else to start a new life.
Erickito17 2 years ago
what's the song??!
it goes really well wid the video!
anirudhkrishnamani 2 years ago
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Bujinkanrulez 2 years ago
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why thumb down my comment, don't you like the truth american fags?
Zarnik 2 years ago
Just dont like ignorant fools who talk about things they dont know, including themselves.
Kable3141 2 years ago
im a member of the bujinkan kyodai dojo in minnesota. i must say you did a pretty good job on this video. how ever in the future add more about Masaki Hatsume soke. thank you
osseoninja 2 years ago
ninjutsu is the old mother of ju jitsu aikido, karate and judo
this martial arts are competetive sports
not bujinkan...in bujinkan you can get killed.
you must read and watch some videos you will see that the techniques are show slow but if you put some speed on that technique you are goddammit kill. so good luck.
Bujinkanrulez 2 years ago 15
No. Ninjutsu is NOT the mother of any of those arts. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu is an amalgamation of Koryu Jujutsu arts and two or three Ryu with tenuous links to Ninpo.
You won't get killed in Bujinkan. Its practitioners train in a manner so far from effective it's ridiculous. In order to train to fight, you have to learn to fight.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
those arts have been influenced by ninjutsu. i can garantee one thing if someone attacks you and he is most strong than you is impossible to sourvive but with ninjutsu budo taijutsu or with bujinkan's technics i can tell you that i can kick his f... ass. you must start training maybe you will understand something of ninjutsu.
Bujinkanrulez 2 years ago 5
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Uh, no. Koryu Jujutsu arts were NOT AT ALL influenced my Ninjutsu. It was in fact the complete opposite..
I've been training in the martial arts for nearly two decades. It only took two years of Bujinkan training to convince me that it was nowhere near as effective as the Boxing, Kickboxing, Judo, Reality-Based Self-Defence and BJJ I've done since.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
so in your opinion boxing ? and kickboxing? is better then bujinkan budo taijutsu have you really trained bujinkan ? because bujinkan budo taijutsu is more then just some martial art like kickboxing it's a way of life.
rondendik 2 years ago
Way of life? That's irrelevant. The primary function of any martial art should be to improve and build upon fighting ability. Philosophical belief systems are irrelevant to fighting ability.
I never said they were better from a philosophical viewpoint. That is nothing to do with what I am arguing. I am saying that, in general, despite the rules by which they compete the arts actually prepare their practitioners better for combat than the "deadly" Bujinkan because of their training methodology.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
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And I can guarantee one thing; three months of Judo and Boxing will prepare you much better for dealing with a bigger, stronger opponent than three years of Bujinkan training could.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
@Bujinkanrulez It IS Ninjutsu. Only a mixup from nine different types of ninjutsu
MusicnTricking 1 year ago
@Bujinkanrulez
actually, many japanese jujutsu schools predate ninjutsu. the samurai and their unarmed jujutsu existed several centuries before ninjutsu was created. not to mention the bujinkan as an organization is actually pretty recent less than a hundred years ago. not bashing, just stating a fact. i'm a japanese history major.
VegaManX7 1 year ago 2
@Bujinkanrulez Too deadly for the ring aye?
Pretty sure I saw a ninjutsu guy in one of early UFCs, sadly his mount to armbar wasn't 'too lethal'...
And no, ninjutsu is not the parent style of jujutsu or judo, and certainly not karate. In fact the history is pretty shaky over whether ninjas actually existed at all. What we do know is that Bujinkan is entirely the creation of Hatsumi and of the C20th.
callum828 1 year ago
@Bujinkanrulez From my experience in submission wrestling and Brasilian Jiu-Jitsu, I say that you can get killed in those arts very easily if someone decided to do so.
Svittidiu 4 months ago
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you dont use a sword in jiujitsu...i train it. And there are no punches or hardly any at all. Just grappling techniques. This so called bujinkan are just some guys that have taken stuff from jiujitsu and other martial arts and put the name bujinkan on it. that is lame, why invite a new art when there already are others that are much better...
Zarnik 2 years ago
duguul 2 years ago 10
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I have never heard of Bujinkan before after I saw this video. That it would be the ancestor of jujitsu is a joke. Jujitsu developed during the sengoku jidai period in Japan. 15th century. It was used when a samurai lost his sword and needed to defend himself. All videos I have seen here on youtube only shows white Americans use this so called art Bujinkan. So that it would be the ancestor of jujitsu no way buddy. Also ninjutsu was a art for the assasins. Also developed during 15th century.
Zarnik 2 years ago
i guess you missed the part :
"the name bujinkan is new yes, but it is just to get a short name instead of saying the names of all nine schools."
and btw Togakure Ryu Nimpo is from 1182, thats the end of the Heian-era. and 300-400 years BEFORE sengoku.
duguul 2 years ago 5
That is incorrect. All of those arts not related to Ninpo are derived from classical Koryu Jujutsu.
In actuality, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu was developed from Jujutsu. not the other way around.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
There is no historical evidence to back that up, nor is there evidence of any link between the Togakure ryu as practiced then and Takamatsu.
Maybe if Hatsumi actually agreed to get his scrolls verified, he might gain some credibility. Or perhaps he knows inside that he never inherited Sokeship of those Ryu....
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
Doesn't matter, Togakure is almost never taught anyway.
thinkfaster 2 years ago
backupor, or maybe it has something to do with the fact that the guy who runs the museum that would give it credibility claims to train "koga ryu" which according to everyone but him and a few select retards under mcdojos, has died out.
so obviously that guy would say that the scrolls were fake...it benefits him. which is why hatsumi sensei doesnt do it.
chucknorrispranks 2 years ago
What a crock of shit! Hatsumi refuses to have the scrolls verified by ANY external historian. The museum is completely and totally irrelevant. Hatsumi has something to hide.
BackUporShutup 2 years ago
@duguul yeah, that would be quite a mouthful wouldn't it? lol
cyprussvael 1 year ago
@duguul LMAO at work dang to loud.......
YangMetalClan 7 months ago
yeah after those 40 secs they just use jiuitsu techniques...this is jiujitsu nothing else...Bujinkan is made up by some american fag...
Zarnik 2 years ago
yeah right, because in jiujitsu u use sword, punches and kicks... but in you mean the drops etc, it could also be judo, but no, it is budo taijutsu...
worstvidsontheweb 2 years ago
wrong, bujinkan is a collection of nine very old schools of ninjutsu. the oldest being Togakure Ryu which goes back 34 generations. at least thats as far as records allow
osseoninja 2 years ago 2
doing flips and standing on your hands? Can that be called a martial art? I see no fighting here...
Zarnik 2 years ago
commenting after watching the first 40 seconds, nice.....
djrydel 2 years ago
COOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!real ninja!!!!!!!!!
kojis4792 2 years ago
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this looks like a bad version of jiujitsu....
Zarnik 2 years ago
They encorporate multiple existing schools into the organisation which is why people tend to get confused.
TomNortherner 2 years ago
It is.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 2 years ago
who cares what an orginization says, today there are black guys from philly, whitguys from toronto, and blue men from mars claiming the title soke.
it's all a farce... just keep training and hold the truth close to you
NonexistantNinja 2 years ago 5
That's just plain true. <3
Manuvazord 2 years ago
Thanks you thank you :o)
NonexistantNinja 2 years ago
pero al combatir con otros estilos no se pueden aplicar la mayoria de las tecnicas del ninjutsu o no?
ya q este no es un arte de competicion , sino un arte de guerra, no es un deporte, atacamos los puntos vitales, poco desgaste , maximo daño!
me gustaria ver un combate con otro estilo
si pueden algun dia gravarce seria bueno!
saludos amigos Bujinkan desde iquique :)
arieltrox 2 years ago
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Its now a fact that hatsumi is an impostor and bujinkan a fraudulent society. His claims as "soke" are unfounded and not certificated by the japanese DAI NIPPON BUTOKU KAI
LynxVigil 2 years ago
So where is all this news held then?
Hatsumi is a human that holds some skills.
So f#ck??
wannabeebee 2 years ago
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mazdaplz 2 years ago
Good clips, but why use Tekken music?
The music ruined it for me.
If I was to make a video about the Bujinkan I would use very tranquil, harmonious traditional Japanese music, making use of the shamisen and other Japanese instruments.
Shizukabushi 2 years ago
I like the shoes they wear
AFL489 2 years ago
jika tabi, i think that is the name
CasteloAcrobat 2 years ago
Yes it is the name.
They are very comfortable and also silent; making them great for practice.
Shizukabushi 2 years ago
Hacéis un trabajo de golpeo muy bueno, pero el trabajo de llaves es demasiado rápido. Teneis que acompasaros al adversario en este terreno. De todas formas, la lacra que lleva arrastrando la Bujinkan son los ataques de tori: esos fudokenes no os los encontraréis nunca en un adversario callejero, y mucho menos si sabe artes marciales.
davichuuuu 3 years ago
That's the reason I think: sparring. A lot of sparring. If possible, against this kind of adversary. I like Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu a lot, I know it was developed for surviving and war, but exactly for this reason, MUST HAVE to work against other MA and street fighters (our present danger these days)
regisaugusto1 2 years ago
gracias por el comentario. Desgraciadamente, no se leer en inglés, y dado que tú sí sabes español, te agradecería que tuvieras la educación de responderme en el idioma que he escrito. Gracias.
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regisaugusto1 2 years ago
Esa es la razón que penso: sparring. Una gran cantidad de sparring. Si posible, contra todo tipo de adversario. Me gusta mucho el Budo Taijutsu Bujinkan, e sé que se ha desarrollado para sobrevivir y para la guerra, pero precisamente por esta razón, debe tener que entrenar contra adversarios de otras artes marciales y otros combatientes de la calle (que son nuestro presente peligro en estos días).
regisaugusto1 2 years ago
eso es lo que hacemos en mi dojo: Vs full contact, Vs muai thai etc...y realmente sirve.
magickaito89 2 years ago
shiken haramitsu daikomyo
fradamilano 3 years ago 4
is this ninjutsu?
connorbcfc1875 3 years ago 2
yes
Razielxs994 3 years ago 2
Well, most of the videos are of Shihan Carlos Etchegaray(Argentina), Shidoshi Tiago Hasselman(ES, Brasil) and Shidoshi Simão Freitas(PB, Brasil), and are true Bujinkan. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, is a traditional martial art, and should be respected, as well. And martial arts are more than just a way to learn how to hurt others. In it's essence, martial arts exists to avoid war, and not to start then. Think about it.
LeoHerkenhoff 3 years ago 5
I disagree.
Martial arts are, inherently (by use of the word martial) about fighting. The focus should always be fighting.
If you want philosophy, I think it should be done totally seperately.
But the martial arts are about fighting to live another day. As such, the focus should ALWAYS be on being able to fight, and knowing you can fight. For that purpose, extensive full-contact testing is required.
The Bujinkan, in most cases, does not offer this. Therefore I do not consider it effective.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
The starting sucks but the others were awesome..
Shinobiriz 3 years ago
Much thanks. I can learn from this, regardless how fast they do it. I should be able to mimic it, somewhat. Once again, many thanks.
vietscouty 3 years ago
where is the bujinkan element?
mxmang 3 years ago
That's more wushu than anything else.
Devilofthering 3 years ago
in the beginning at least. Decided to watch the rest.
Devilofthering 3 years ago
i knew how to do that..
i go of the streets to fight crime.
***** frm me!
anirudhkrishnamani 3 years ago
srry i meant if i knew how to do that.
anirudhkrishnamani 3 years ago
Anyone knows what's song's name?
Imhotep12type 3 years ago 3
That's such a nice post, fukwhore. Nice account name, too. Really shows the qualities of your overall character. Mate, you will never amount to much in this life if you don't start making some personal changes soon...I'm guessing your impatient, from the spelling, and have been victimized at some stage in life. I'm not gloating. I don't think you deserve it. This is the martial arts...it's here to help you get over yourself and start a happier life. Self-defense is not even the beginning, bro..
taitbryan 3 years ago
Puta merda, que vídeo! Qual o nome da música?
NINJUTSU ATÉ O FINAL DA MINHA VIDA! DEMAIS!
Imhotep12type 3 years ago
woow great vidio very intrested in bujinkan ;) btw luv back flips ;D
egdqv13234 3 years ago
Yes, nicerebound. You can only really practice it a few times full power, if that. It wrecks the shoulder. It's not complicated whatsoever. Very practical. Very effective.
RobertRabbit 3 years ago
how painful are these defenses? are we talkin about some brutal shit here?
nicerebound 3 years ago
lol We have defenses against haymakers. Very painful ones.
You honestly think a thousand year old martial art could be totally thwarted by a friggin' haymaker? Wow.
RobertRabbit 3 years ago
No evidence of ninjutsu being a thousand years old.
In addition, its hand to hand syllabus is effectively identical to that of most Koryu forms of Japaense Ju Jutsu.
Basically, the Bujinkan is JJJ with a cult atmosphere.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
Bujinkan it's composed from teachings of Nine schools, 3 of them being Ninjutsu only. Others are Taijutsu and etc, and share common techniques with other koryu systems (generically called "Jujutsu" when historically treated).
regisaugusto1 2 years ago
So, where is the proof of these three schools being "ninjutsu only". I am especiually interested in evidence about Togakure-ryu.
Kantzarakos 2 years ago
Look for daijiten. Unfortunaly, it SEEMS (i'm not 100% sure) that Togakure is not in Daijiten.
regisaugusto1 2 years ago
This would have worked better with the soundtrack to "Breakdance, the movie". The little known 10th school of ninjitsu is making your opponent laugh so hard he is incapable of fighting. 2 D34dly 4 U !!!
guerillajack 3 years ago
all martial art did their evolution, changed and added a few techniques so there is other way to learn it B4 comments,i just started Bujikan budo Taijutsu,did taekwondo,and for now i realy enjoy that new style of combat,they prefer to roll on the ground to avoid hit then risk a bad landing and lost the fight.U must know that this one is a survival mode so they fight basic but deadly,if u dont kill,submission or break an arm,leg.U wont see any master doing some hotshot to risk the fight result
simroga 3 years ago 3
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cassandra did you ok this post with the hatsumi corporation?
nicerebound 3 years ago
lol. Wow.. witty comeback. I especially love how you build your ideas.. Too bad you don't prove anyhting with facts.
By the way, history is study of the past, particulary the written records.And before there were written records, time is considered prehistoric. So how the hell aren't scrolls enough evidence to prove anything? Or would you rather the world take your flimsy accusations which haven't been supported by ANY evidence?
Have a nice day, my friend.
cassandratheacrobat 3 years ago
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cassandra im not really seeing any facts from your end either. i also don't recall making any comments about the scrolls, at least on this video, but regaurdless im not sure how your explanation of history and pre-history substantiates or verifies them. they are just some scrolls. im honestly just not impressed by a foggy history taught by someone with vested financial interest.
is it that much to ask that we see this stuff work in full contact confrontations before accepting its effectivity?
nicerebound 3 years ago
Because Nicerebound's post has been wrongly marked as spam, here is the important point he made:
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is it that much to ask that we see this stuff work in full contact confrontations before accepting its effectivity?"
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
ninjutsu is not only doing backflips ¬¬
xellos27 3 years ago
i agree, its an aerobics clip ....... really,
darrenburns123 3 years ago
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you have no idea how happy you've made me
nicerebound 3 years ago
that's what qi training is for, ive been hit in the face many times during training, but not during sparing.
justice101222 3 years ago
without full contact face punches, stand up strategy is completely different. landing a body strike becomes the primary goal, and doing so is done at the cost of exposing the face (because its illegal to punch full force).
ninjutsu stresses the importance that rules play as a factor in combat strategy, yet your actual sparing sessions do not include full power punches to the face.
nicerebound 3 years ago
Your point has encouraged me to pick up some gloves and find somebody up for some full contact sparing.
justice101222 3 years ago
Good. Because that's the only way that, first of all, you'll ever be proficient enough to use it in an actual confrontation, and secondly have the confidence of knowing it works.
ilikeaeroplanejelly 3 years ago
yeh dude how can you learn to defend against some drunk motherfucker throwing wild haymakers at ya if you only learn lunge punches!! if you out on the town thats prob the most common attack. we train with the attacker trying 2 hit in face!!! if you fuck up you know!! if my spelling sux i dnt care
fukwhore 3 years ago
Think about that most of the Bujinkan train the reflexes not a certain type of situation YOU are the one who decide where and when is effective to apply a techniche. If you dont recognize the moment you gotta do is some more training mate. And, keep in mind that martial arts, besides what everybody says, are arts that were developed in times of war, not to point a everyday situation. Also they were developed in times were gunpowder were almost unapplyable.
koshijutsu 3 years ago 2
thats the thing, you avoid direct punches to the face. a real stand up confrontation usually boils down to the face punching competition. its hurts the most in training because it hurts the most in real life. if you aren't training to hit someone in the face, you are skipping over the most important aspect of unarmed stand up combat.
is it dangerous, painfull, and a bit barbaric...yes. training to fight always is if its legit
nicerebound 3 years ago
it all depends on the master, for example the shidoshi that teahces me has knocked me out more than 3 times, i've had more than one injury that needed a cast and my mouth has bled hundreds od times, he really gives the intention of harming the other a big point during practice, because on the street they won't throw you a slow motion punch... but i've seen shidoshis that don't seem to realize that, and when you train with them you don't feel it is real, my trainings are very didactic... :)
worstvidsontheweb 2 years ago
how is it tag? we probably use 3/4 of you guys and aviod direct punches to the face.. though it still happens occasionaly, atleast where im trained.. like i said i dont know about other schools.
justice101222 3 years ago
the rolling is silly, :/ and pointless
TapdancingFerret 3 years ago
when your throwing connected strikes into each others faces, you need gloves. anything else isn't really sparring, its just tag
nicerebound 3 years ago
exactly
nicerebound 3 years ago
if you can spar without gloves its not the kind of sparring im refering to
nicerebound 3 years ago
okay then... i honestly don't see how it makes a difference.
justice101222 3 years ago
do you wear gloves?
nicerebound 3 years ago
not usualy, only when were getting really combative and my teacher thinks it isnt looking safe for the people training.
then again, im pretty sure im learning ninjutsu with some jujutsu in it.. because the ground fighting we do looks more like mma stuff than any other martial art ive seen.
justice101222 3 years ago
you guys dont fight and spar, at least not meaningfully. you could though, the choice is in your hands, will you embrace the power?
combat sports are fighting evolved, take it to the next level. im in your side, i want to see you do your very best.
nicerebound 3 years ago
I dont know about other schools but we spar pretty intencivly at the end of every class.
justice101222 3 years ago
You don't see many ninjutsu artists coming on to MMA and jujutsu videos to flame it do you? so how come we get oodles of you fucking with us? how about keep your mouth shut and prove that you are better than us when you actsualy get a chance to fight/spar with a person who takes ninjutsu...
justice101222 3 years ago
yeah every ninjutsu guy has some story about his heroic street battle. if you guys are so sneaky and generally try to avoid fighting, how come your getting attacked all the time?
don't you guys pride yourself in avoiding fights if its possible. pretty much all the starts ive been in i started or did something dumb to provoke.
you the kind of nerds that would exergerate some shove-slap fest till its the battle of the ages.
pretenders...every last one of you
nicerebound 3 years ago
im not trying to shame the art but it sems that bunjikan ninjitsu seems far more effective on one of its own than of a gangster on the sreet who has a very different syle of fighting. But never the less nicely done
siddharth5 3 years ago
actually you would be imprest on how effective it is on street fighter. it workte for me^^
OokamiKenkyaku 3 years ago
bujinkan is the product of master scam artist hatsumi masaaki. He claims some ninja lineage thats shrouded in mystery...give me a break. Real fighters have fight records, not ancient scrolls.
and real fights never look anything like this. Theres a reason every respectable boxer, cagefighter, wrestler, BJJ grappler, kickboxer etc. laughs at this crap. the ninjas you think you emulate would have laughed at this. and in all likelihood, hatsumi is laughing all the way to the bank.
nicerebound 3 years ago
And you, my friend, are the product of a dumb mutt who just happened to cross a desperate woman pathetic enough to do anything for money..
Thankfully, after all these years, you have finally obtained the ability and knowledge to at least show the world how stupid you really are. Congratulations. Would you like to prove yourself further because there may be some, less gullible idiots in this world quite dubious to the actual immensity of your stupidity.
Real fighters don't whine online.
cassandratheacrobat 3 years ago 2
so bujinkan is gymnastics modified for people who aren't atheletically talented?
nicerebound 3 years ago
Wrong.
Try not being a smartass. Why not look into it?
RobertRabbit 3 years ago
great vid. you did a great job on putting this together.
i really like 1:30 to about 1:37, i think it shows an important aspect of bujinkan and ninjutsu itself, evasion.
Kukishinkid99 3 years ago
my sensei is on this video ;]
iandc94 3 years ago 2
Why did it take from 2:32-2:41 to take down one guy? What are you going to do about his five friends while you're playing with him?
frozenfifteen 3 years ago
You obviously would use a different technique if you HAD to take on him and his five friends you brainless twit.
RobertRabbit 3 years ago 2
Well you'd be better off showing THAT technique as opposed to a compilation of wasted time and random dive rolls and back hand springs.
Watching one guy take down six attackers, now that'd be neat. I'd want to take that art.
frozenfifteen 3 years ago
I hace to say it's one of the best videos of ninjutsu that saw
my congratulations to you.
I stusy with ine if the most importants shihans of Argentina since I was 19, and after 15 years of training I can say this art change my life, and save it in some ocations too.
I've practice taekwan do , judo , kung fu , but this is very particular , it's like no other.
I salute you.
bye .
shaka
shamatzu1 3 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Eskrema whould kick bujinkans ass! (in case u dont know Eskrama is as brutal as cock fighting) or maybe maui thai
heavenkiller15 3 years ago
It comes down to the practitioner, not the style - ninjutsu has a large focus on weapons, same as Eskrima - having done both there's actually a lot of similarities in the footwork taught and the theory behind how to fight. They're both practical, tried and tested styles, to say one is superior to another is silly.
senorprime 3 years ago 2
and if you want to get more practical a real bujinkan master can kill any martial arts expert because he would do it when the other one sleeps at night, lets not forget the 3 objectives of the ninja, espionage, sabotage and asesination
dotaku13 3 years ago 2
A ninja would just cut your head of and dissappear...that's how the ninja does it :D
bergurking 3 years ago 2
In case you didn't know (which you obviously don't), it's referred to as "Escrima" or "Eskrima". And I'm assuming by your lack of knowledge expressed for either style in your post, you surely aren't qualified to decide which is actually better. You're a moron. Congratulations.
RobertRabbit 3 years ago
its also a cultural art and for some a way of living,its not just a martaill art thats what my teacher said to me
paulsky1 3 years ago
Greetings from Bujinkan Guatemala.
I was asking my Sensei the other day about why there were no Ninjutsu Tournaments. And he told me "The art is to deadly to play with it, train it to win and survive... not for geting trophies." his words were very interesting and worthy to be remembered.
bujinkangt 3 years ago 5