I have a question guys could someone tell me that the hop up in M4 are all the same whatever brand is??? Coz im having a problem with my GBB m4 when i got is and put a green gas.. I start shooting @ 20 ft away in soda cans man i couldnt hit the soda cans.. But when i tried my electric blowback i hit all the soda cans in one shot each.. So do you think i need to adjuste the hop up of the BB coz i put 0.20 grms.. I need advice please email me... I appreciate it.. thanks guys
Easier said than done! I am starting to regret spending all that money on a Inokatsu. Never ending problems with that thing! Clearly overrated and overpriced GBB.
@kullwarrior Yeah everyone got ripped on the 08 especially at $790 plus $125 for a mag and shipping. I got lucky recently on e-bay a week ago and just got mine today. Guy had no clue how to work it great and it was practically brand new with only a couple little scratches on parts that I am going to replace. I got it with a fully woking WA Super mag and a AS recoil spring that I am gonna sell for a couple bucks for $490 shipped. Totally worth it.
@Szlejer Thats not it! the trajectory is extremely unstable, the BB flys up and down randomly after around 20meters and in some case just after 10. I changed it to AEG hop up to make it easier to adjust but the accuracy problem persist...I hav no idea how to fix it now =="
The new Inokatsus I heard were the best on the market. You have to pay $200 more than a G&P but its worth wha tyou pay. A lot of people complain about wobbles and stuff fro mteh G&Ps, the Inokatsus are solid and strong. At least that's what I've seen this far
It's certainly an improvement from the old ones. Recoil is nice and strong, stock bolt carrier is steel, RIS is (probably) CNCed. It still has problems- expensive mags (cheapest is Bomber, and it's still $50), and feeding issues because it really wasn't designed to feed like an airsoft gun, more like how the real ones do.
Now that last part is an inherent flaw with the WA system. That said, I still want a G&P.
Western Arms (Super) is more expensive than G&P. Redwolfairsoft has them listed as that anyway. Plus the Western Arms ones are not plastic. They are metal as well
Nah, it's aluminum I think. The reason this is $200 more is the fact it already has a full steel bolt among other real steel parts. Some parts are interchangable with the real thing. It's a little more precise and it's constructed a little better I suppose. Haven't talekd ot anyone with one yet.
it says its a "fiber reinforced polymer receiver" on EhobbyAsia too.. and that the bolt carrier is made of brass. i know the buffer tube is 1:1 scale and made of aluminum, but i dont think it has any actual steel in it, maybe in the barrel but i think its just aluminum.
i think it just costs more because its legal in Japan, so they can sell it in Japan for that much and people would still buy it. and because the internals are more durable then other versions.
Inokatsu should've came up with the same hop up adjustment as the WA. It takes too long to take it apart. The worst thing on the Inokatsu IS the Hop up unit. Screwed all the way down bb's still fall out when gun pointed down. Shots are not consistent, with mine, every 1 shot out of 2 doesn't have enough spin so it just drops down but when it works it, it's a wonder. I mean it's still a great gun but fix this problem. I don't know if anyone else has the same problem as me...?
Mr. Ino, why dont you kill yourself!
SuperBreak100 9 hours ago
a very idiot hop up chamber design from a fake Japanese person
SuperBreak100 9 hours ago
this looks lika a pain in the ass if you want to test your "adjustment" after adjusting..... horrible!
Arzual 4 months ago
counter clockwise not anti clockwise
sourbeeairsoft 1 year ago
@sourbeeairsoft it's an english from taiwan
mormotaro 7 months ago
Holy Jesus.. I'm glad I got the KJW M4 instead.
T7thK 1 year ago
THATS IT, NOW WERE DONE. yeah im totaly fucking am lol
boogieman221thx 1 year ago
It's a bitch just to get to the hop up?
jack916459 1 year ago
the one drawback to the Inokatsu...I thought they would've had a better system than this!
generalporaboo 1 year ago
@generalporaboo Yeah I just got the 08 and the stock 09 is like this as well. It ain't too hard though.
ktmracer3500 1 year ago
I have a question guys could someone tell me that the hop up in M4 are all the same whatever brand is??? Coz im having a problem with my GBB m4 when i got is and put a green gas.. I start shooting @ 20 ft away in soda cans man i couldnt hit the soda cans.. But when i tried my electric blowback i hit all the soda cans in one shot each.. So do you think i need to adjuste the hop up of the BB coz i put 0.20 grms.. I need advice please email me... I appreciate it.. thanks guys
pnoyrock76 1 year ago
@pnoyrock76 What system, WE or WA?
666Vertigo 1 year ago
@666Vertigo WA
Vemexe 11 months ago
Easier said than done! I am starting to regret spending all that money on a Inokatsu. Never ending problems with that thing! Clearly overrated and overpriced GBB.
Deltasharks 1 year ago
08 is yeah you really lost your money, 09 is meh its okay you still need to replace hopup unit for more practical ones
Ultimately I wouldve choose a Bomber if I want preassembled, but I went DIY a prime and love it.
kullwarrior 1 year ago
@kullwarrior Yeah everyone got ripped on the 08 especially at $790 plus $125 for a mag and shipping. I got lucky recently on e-bay a week ago and just got mine today. Guy had no clue how to work it great and it was practically brand new with only a couple little scratches on parts that I am going to replace. I got it with a fully woking WA Super mag and a AS recoil spring that I am gonna sell for a couple bucks for $490 shipped. Totally worth it.
ktmracer3500 1 year ago
This hopup system is a bad joke...
Szlejer 2 years ago 10
@Szlejer Thats not it! the trajectory is extremely unstable, the BB flys up and down randomly after around 20meters and in some case just after 10. I changed it to AEG hop up to make it easier to adjust but the accuracy problem persist...I hav no idea how to fix it now =="
Fuckingwev 3 months ago
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I'd call this FIXED HOP UP.
Morons... 2000 thounsand dollars toy... with this hop up...
TheBelva85 2 years ago
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$800... but still waste of money (G&P WOC is better, WE even more)
666Vertigo 2 years ago
The new Inokatsus I heard were the best on the market. You have to pay $200 more than a G&P but its worth wha tyou pay. A lot of people complain about wobbles and stuff fro mteh G&Ps, the Inokatsus are solid and strong. At least that's what I've seen this far
RepEvox 2 years ago
It's certainly an improvement from the old ones. Recoil is nice and strong, stock bolt carrier is steel, RIS is (probably) CNCed. It still has problems- expensive mags (cheapest is Bomber, and it's still $50), and feeding issues because it really wasn't designed to feed like an airsoft gun, more like how the real ones do.
Now that last part is an inherent flaw with the WA system. That said, I still want a G&P.
666Vertigo 2 years ago
G&P is better than WA?
RepEvox 2 years ago
Consider it- would you want to pay $600 for plastic, or about $80 more for a G&P with epic externals? (BTW, metal bodies for WAs cost about $175.)
666Vertigo 2 years ago
Western Arms (Super) is more expensive than G&P. Redwolfairsoft has them listed as that anyway. Plus the Western Arms ones are not plastic. They are metal as well
RepEvox 2 years ago
thats sorta ridiculous how its more expensive.. and on Redwolf, it actually says it has a ABS plastic reciever.
Cosmo1093 2 years ago
Nah, it's aluminum I think. The reason this is $200 more is the fact it already has a full steel bolt among other real steel parts. Some parts are interchangable with the real thing. It's a little more precise and it's constructed a little better I suppose. Haven't talekd ot anyone with one yet.
RepEvox 2 years ago
it says its a "fiber reinforced polymer receiver" on EhobbyAsia too.. and that the bolt carrier is made of brass. i know the buffer tube is 1:1 scale and made of aluminum, but i dont think it has any actual steel in it, maybe in the barrel but i think its just aluminum.
i think it just costs more because its legal in Japan, so they can sell it in Japan for that much and people would still buy it. and because the internals are more durable then other versions.
Cosmo1093 2 years ago
wow, so much work?!
I think i would buy the G&P Woc.
Oberhorsti 2 years ago
It's the same exact process.
MrSniper16 2 years ago
I would kill myself
BNAHUlVl 2 years ago 4
Inokatsu should've came up with the same hop up adjustment as the WA. It takes too long to take it apart. The worst thing on the Inokatsu IS the Hop up unit. Screwed all the way down bb's still fall out when gun pointed down. Shots are not consistent, with mine, every 1 shot out of 2 doesn't have enough spin so it just drops down but when it works it, it's a wonder. I mean it's still a great gun but fix this problem. I don't know if anyone else has the same problem as me...?
Bornmong 2 years ago
this pain in the ass to adjust hop up
41ACE 2 years ago
nice i needed this thanks
Solidsnake951 2 years ago