So because of how hard it is to move the harness Prussik up, wouldn't it be better to put the foot-Prussic below? That way, your weight on it will be the resistance you'd need to easier move the upper-harness-Prussic?
Keep in mind I have NO climbing or rope-experience, so I really don't know any better.
Big advantage: pushing up the harness-prussik is easy, because the rope is held down by my foot. Pushing up the foot prussik is easy as well, because I can sit in my harness and use BOTH hands :-)
I tried both ways and I really think, that this is the easier way!
Do You think different? Please tell me why- may I have overseen something.......
Good video, only thing i would add is to put a clove hitch on a HMS using some of the slack rope from below the prussiks and clip it back to your harness belay loop as this will provide a backup should the prussik knots slip.
This technique applies equally well in escaping when sea clif climbing (the context in which i was tought it) and is the reason for leaving your seperate static line in place, with an additional lead rope, so you always have a fallback option to bail.
Good stuff :) Many thanks for your videos, love to refresh my memory this way. As I use shorter prussiks, I have the extra joy of fiddling with slings and biners (although the prussik can be removed quicker that way). Also use the bottom as a foot loop, come down to personal taste really. Might get a tibloc, as many ppl said ascending this way just takes forever.
gibsongod, you're right about that,.. Yesterday I ascended 15 mts of rope hanging from a bridge using two prusiks,.. They worked pretty well, however it took me almost 10 minutes... One thing I didn't do is passing the foot's loop through the carabiner,... I'll try it next time,.. must be safer but I ignore how handy it would be...
by putting the foot loop on the bottom prusik it loads the rope and it is easy to lift the upper prusik thats clipped to the harness. just less fumbly, great videos.
...which is why i was taught to always put the harness prussik above the foot prussik. That way you have 2 hands free to fiddle with the prussik on the unweighted rope.
Stop reading Mein Kampf. I'm not liable if some random fat guy on the street punches you breaks all the bones in your face. Now go back to your little shack and go and ask your favorite dictator whether you have permission to use the Internet
Nah. I 've never read Mein whoever that is. Your post contains threats. I live in South Central L.A.
I've got used to that kind of lines you used to threat someone. In Lowkey, I've heard that million times...lol
My daily basis answer was "Freeze,....I'll Shoot." at work. 7 out of 100 comes back & do something but that's depend on the seasons...I welcomed them & sprayed with AK. I used to loved to see while they tried to doge the bulletss but too slow & becomes hives of bee's nest.
If I am carrying a pack I tend to take it off and hang it onto the end of the rope.
That way the rope is held taught and the lower prussik slides up more easily, AND I don't have the weight of the pack trying to invert me the whole way up. When I get topside I just haul up the pack.
Hi Mike, normally, how long is the accessory cord needed to be for each prussik in this setup?
pitot1988 9 months ago
But why do you prefer to use the upper prusik as foot-loop? because it's harder?
rarbiart 10 months ago
I just saw Wolfmamaguckn's post after I made mind. I hate repeating someone else's question.
Loveoftheoutdoors 10 months ago
So because of how hard it is to move the harness Prussik up, wouldn't it be better to put the foot-Prussic below? That way, your weight on it will be the resistance you'd need to easier move the upper-harness-Prussic?
Keep in mind I have NO climbing or rope-experience, so I really don't know any better.
Loveoftheoutdoors 10 months ago
Any way to attatch a double figure eight to the bottom prussik? pull arms up, hold on, scoot the bottom prussik with your feet, lather rinse repeat.
knifecollector93 1 year ago
The knots are great but a jumar is so much nicer IMO
Nateandgaby44 1 year ago
Hi,
I prefer the bottom prussik as loop for my foot.
Big advantage: pushing up the harness-prussik is easy, because the rope is held down by my foot. Pushing up the foot prussik is easy as well, because I can sit in my harness and use BOTH hands :-)
I tried both ways and I really think, that this is the easier way!
Do You think different? Please tell me why- may I have overseen something.......
Have a nice climb!
wollmamaguckn 1 year ago 9
Good video, only thing i would add is to put a clove hitch on a HMS using some of the slack rope from below the prussiks and clip it back to your harness belay loop as this will provide a backup should the prussik knots slip.
This technique applies equally well in escaping when sea clif climbing (the context in which i was tought it) and is the reason for leaving your seperate static line in place, with an additional lead rope, so you always have a fallback option to bail.
simongeering 1 year ago
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simongeering 1 year ago
Good stuff :) Many thanks for your videos, love to refresh my memory this way. As I use shorter prussiks, I have the extra joy of fiddling with slings and biners (although the prussik can be removed quicker that way). Also use the bottom as a foot loop, come down to personal taste really. Might get a tibloc, as many ppl said ascending this way just takes forever.
Keep the work up!
nitrocubane 1 year ago
gibsongod, you're right about that,.. Yesterday I ascended 15 mts of rope hanging from a bridge using two prusiks,.. They worked pretty well, however it took me almost 10 minutes... One thing I didn't do is passing the foot's loop through the carabiner,... I'll try it next time,.. must be safer but I ignore how handy it would be...
JMEBF 1 year ago
by putting the foot loop on the bottom prusik it loads the rope and it is easy to lift the upper prusik thats clipped to the harness. just less fumbly, great videos.
gibsongod123 1 year ago
No,.. man, that's not good,.. I'm sorry....
JMEBF 1 year ago
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Lvduggo69 2 years ago
Is this a joke? Man, try harder.....!!!!
ZAFIRAEXQUISITA 2 years ago 2
...which is why i was taught to always put the harness prussik above the foot prussik. That way you have 2 hands free to fiddle with the prussik on the unweighted rope.
seahog32 2 years ago
yea thats what i teach at my camp
xgumby420 2 years ago
how long is is Prussik ?
iskandarov15 3 years ago
5 to 6 meters
mikebarter387 3 years ago
How Long is a chinaman.
MntypythonHolygrail 2 years ago
I think the average is around 5 feet 6 inches
mikebarter387 2 years ago
I've met him! Nice guy!
69adrummer 2 years ago
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maxinpains 1 year ago
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LOLCaatz 11 months ago
@maxinpains
Stop reading Mein Kampf. I'm not liable if some random fat guy on the street punches you breaks all the bones in your face. Now go back to your little shack and go and ask your favorite dictator whether you have permission to use the Internet
LOLCaatz 11 months ago
@LOLCaatz
Nah. I 've never read Mein whoever that is. Your post contains threats. I live in South Central L.A.
I've got used to that kind of lines you used to threat someone. In Lowkey, I've heard that million times...lol
My daily basis answer was "Freeze,....I'll Shoot." at work. 7 out of 100 comes back & do something but that's depend on the seasons...I welcomed them & sprayed with AK. I used to loved to see while they tried to doge the bulletss but too slow & becomes hives of bee's nest.
maxinpains 11 months ago
@maxinpains If you're that mentally challenged, nobody should be selling you guns in the first place
LOLCaatz 11 months ago
Thank you for teaching all this good stuff mike. can you use a grigri as a backup and one or two prussiks for the legs instead?
buschrpm 3 years ago
You most certianly can, just that we seldom carry Gri GRi's in the big mountains where this system would most likely be employed
mikebarter387 2 years ago
Always good stuff from Mike/Joe.
If I am carrying a pack I tend to take it off and hang it onto the end of the rope.
That way the rope is held taught and the lower prussik slides up more easily, AND I don't have the weight of the pack trying to invert me the whole way up. When I get topside I just haul up the pack.
Keep the great videos coming!!
dmosier 3 years ago 4
good advice, folks
mikebarter387 2 years ago
GREAT STUFF BRO
DONJILRACING 3 years ago