@KeMoniito proposal is not part of atomic theory today. We simply don't know the cause of the big bang or why the formation of the first molecule occurred. But that's the interesring thing about science. It prides itself on discovery and being as objective as possible. Because we don't know the reason, answering questions with ignorance is not answering questions.
@KeMoniito Democritus's proposal of evidence of the atom was that he hypothesized that all matter (plus space and time) is composed of tiny indestructible units, called atoms. Science used indirect observation until scanning tunneling microscope equipment was able to "see" the atom. Democritus's
This just in! A scientist was recently able to synthesis a self replicating bacteria entirely from artificial material, proving this ignorant video wrong.
Michael Behe has not demonstrated what he has said in this video. It is certainly possible that he is incorrect. If you do not think that evolution is correct then consider this, evolution is the most important concept in biology and medicine. The subjects that allow us to live healthier and longer lives. Quite possibly many of you who are attacking evolution would not even be alive if it weren't for the concept of evolution.
@deathshallcome2u You acknowledged earlier that atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. And then you ask what proof do we have. Do you not realize you answered your own question?
@watchmenonthewall1 Why does the majority of the scientific community disagree with you?It's not up to us to prove these things to you, we are not scientist. We accept what science has presented as the best possible explanations based on evidence. Instead of asking us, why don't you do some research on your own and prove the scientists wrong and explain to them they have no facts or evidence. It's pretty arrogant on your part to say they have nothing. What do you have that proves them wrong?
@KenMoniito Why does the majority of the scientific community not agree with you? We don't claim to have all of the facts and neither do scientists. We accept what science has presented. If you consider the word theory as a "guess" you need to grab a dictionary and look up what science considers a theory. If evolution is a guess, so is atomic, germ, relativity and gravity. To say evolution hasn't been "proven" is ridiculous.
@TheMors666 The process by which these amino acids could form life is unknown,
Actually we are even further then that, we could show in 2008 that under the right conditions those amino acids will from a fully functional RNA from scratch via selforganization. That is not yet a lifeform. but its pretty damn close. This was always seen as the most difficult, even near impossible stage. It turned out its quite easy, which shows again you have to do the experiment to really know^^
@deathshallcome2u and all those experiments have proved its impossible
Your argument makes about as much sense as if you had claimed 200 years ago that it is impossible for humans to fly,since all experiments so far have failed.That we don´t know yet how to do it isnt prove we never will.In fact we are quite close to find a way to do it,for example i have already named the experiment in which they could show an RNA can build itself through selforganization from simple chemicals
Not one fact to support what was before the big bang. Not one fact to support the big bang theory. Not one fact to support abiogenesis and there is not one fact to support evolution. Now if you deny this statment, then show me your facts. Not what someone believes, not what someone says, not what someone is doing or close to doing. Show me your facts that can be verified that show one of these fantasies is true.
@watchmenonthewall1 Humans share endogenous retroviruses that are embedded in our DNA that can be found with our closest relatives, as chimps and orangutangs, but the farther we look, the less of them we find until we share none with non-primates.
Sources: Published scientific journals, like Nature Genetics and Immunogenetics and dozens more, all peer reviewed by the best and the brightest.
@latuman You have given me an hypothesis.There are no facts to support the hypothesis.You do know that there are two main hypothesis dealing with homo erectus?Neither one are facts.As we continue to learn more about DNA we continue to see that there are more differences between species, not more similarities.Before 2002 it was claimed that humans and chimps had a 98% identical DNA.You are familiar with the 2002 research in which the DNA of humans and chimps is now down to 95%.continued
@watchmenonthewall1 I think you misunderstand. The facts are that teh ERV's actually exist. The most reasonable explanation for them alone is common ancestry. How else would they be there in such an order, especially when this lineage is supported by other biological and paleontological evidence? What would ever be a better explanation, I want to know!
National Geographic is not a peer reviewed journal. Also it is still much closer than anything else.
@watchmenonthewall1 Snippets from the article: "There is no consensus about how to count numbers or proportion of nucleotide insertions and deletions,"
"We haven't observed a single indel in a [gene] to date between human and chimp," said Oefner. Therefore, the revised estimate doesn't alter the amount of DNA that holds information about our species. Humans and chimps still differ by about one percent in gene sequences"
@latuman Like I said,there are no facts to support what came before the big bang,the big bang theory, abiogenesis or evolution.Hypothesis and theories continually spring up replacing previous hypothesis and theories. Just like abiogenesis replaced spontaneous generation.Listen to your own words,"the most reasonable explanation for them alone is common ancestry".An unfactual explanation is just that-unfactual.You have not one fact.
@watchmenonthewall1 I presented the facts, you can double check them. You simply will not. Evidence does not really matter to you. I have also shown you to be quote mining and misleading in your "citations". You don't act like a trustworthy person. You'd rather skip my refutation and just jump to big bang and whatever else, but I'm not playing the game anymore.
@latuman You presented no facts, you presented hypothesis and theories.I showed you that your responses were hypothesis and theories and that is all the big bang theory is, that is all abiogenesis is, and that is all evolution is, hypothesis and theories!
@watchmenonthewall1 If you feel the need for inarguable proof of every single scientific theory out there, you cannot possibly think that you would be able to provoke said proof on youtube. And even if someone ,for some to me unimaginable reason, where to indulge in this ridiculous quest of enlightening you, it would come to a dead stop within minutes. This is due to the fact that even if proof where to be produced, you do not have the required education or set of mind to properly understand it.
@necrochildreborn Thank you for showing how ignorant an evolutionist can be! You obviously have difficulty reading and understanding.I asked for facts and you did just the opposite, proving my point! Thank you.
Lets face it. I can show you piles of information, spend the next 40 years explaining shit to you, and you will still deny without even taking a real glance at the information.
@thestunnedninja obviously because at any point on anything we can say we don't know and because we don't know there is the possibility that god did it. and because there is that possibility you cannot say god does not exist
Unfortunately for your theory, in order to even consider that god has done anything, there has to be proof. You are just assuming. And if you are not assuming, then what are you basing your idea on? There must be some evidence!
@thestunnedninja there is proof. something can happen but yet you don't know why. how do say that is proof? because god can do things wether or not you can see him or not! he has said it.
@thestunnedninja ...Was there "evidence" when Democritus proposed the ATOM..?... how did science found out it existed if nobody could see an atom and nobody has ever seen an atom yet with their own eyes..? why can't theists say it is a CREATOR the answer when science cannnot say it..?
@watchmenonthewall1 "Not one fact to support the big bang theory." Here's two. The universe is expanding, this is a known fact. The BBT is nothing more than an expansion event that happens in the universe (empty space has a 'vacuum energy' that generates the force necessary to push matter apart.). The presence of sparctic radiation is another and what theory states you would expect from such an event. "Not one fact to support abiogenesis" Abio hasn't been proven, however
@watchmenonthewall1 certain aspects of the hypothesis can be tested. However those experiments would have to be conducted 80 to 95 times 4.29 x 10^40 trials in order to say that these early conditions could not form a pre-life-unit. In conducting those trials, a single pre-life-unit would support the theory. This is impossible to conduct, and thus the theory is unfalsifiable. It fails to pass the basic requirements needed to be a viable scientific theory. Evolution is the
@watchmenonthewall1 exact opposite. Evolution has tons of examples that are falsifiable. Creation is unfalsifiable, lives by absolutes and has no demonstrable or testable means at which to even bring to the table. So to say that science proves creation is false, science dismisses unfalsifiable subjects. A simple example supporting evolution is insects immunity to pesticides that previously killed them and a new strain of the flu virus every year. Tell the CDC who relies on
@watchmenonthewall1 on evolution to develop a new vaccine every year that there are no facts to support evolution. These aren't examples you need a belief in. There is no "gray area" here. The theories are either right or their wrong. And currently there isn't better explanations or theories out there indicating what modern science has presented as wrong.
@deathshallcome2u which is not yet a lifeform, but pretty damn close. We still don´t understand how this RNA can form a simple cell, but we are very close to build life from scratch.This is design, they simply recreated the environment 4 billion years ago to the best of our knowledge,nothing else.The chemicals then started to organize themselves into an RNA.To claim we couldnt do it because we don´t know how is stupid, its like claiming 200 years ago we could never fly.
@deathshallcome2u cause this just totallly disproved their theory of evolution by ...
Could your argument be any more stupid ? Hardly ^^ First of all this has NOTHING to do with evolution, since evolution is not about how life got started, its ONLY about what happened after that.
Then to really prove something you need to simulate the environment in which life was created, chemists have done that, and the chemicals started to build a fully functional RNA from scratch,-->
@LaElizH the arrogance and audacity to claim you would know better then the experts, unfuckingbelievable !!! You know the higher your education the less likely you are a creationist, that´s a fact that should make you question yourself;) !!!
How can you judge the validity of a part of science you do not really know ??? Every kid sees that makes no sense !!! Go get an education, and stop getting your "facts" fro,m creationist websites, they lie in your face !!!
@LaElizH Yeah... I could do the same thing with the LAW of Gravity, which I have.
The law of gravity is by newton, and is much less exact then the theory of relativity by albert einstein, that also describes gravity, and gives you the reason for gravity, which newton couldnt provide. Look it up, theory has a different meaning in science then it has in laymens terms. The fact that you don´t even know that, shows you don´t have the necessary knowledge to discuss science, yet you have-->
@TheMors666 And now that I think of it, I've actually answered your question twice. Pretty much the same way both times.
Interesting that you yet again dance around answering it, instead of answering it. What bothers you so much about this question ? Admit it, you would love to have evidence, but you are also scared about it.
QUOTE:"c) The quote I posted was from a week ago"
Nope, it wasnt, we where talking about it just the other day
The inability for a living cell to rebuild itself after having its contents spilled into a test tube?
This is absurd,
Early life was much more basic than living cells today, hischool science is all that is neccesary to refute this illogical assumotion.
GERMS, VIRUS's are simpler forms of life, yet it isnt being discussed in science as if they where the first forms of life. This man is either ignorant, or he believes the audiance is ignorant enough to buy this load of crap.
@LaElizH There is undeniable proof that Jesus Christ was an actual man.Anyone who denies that is just being ignorant
Oh come on,even most christians admit that the historical sources are very slim at best,you have hardly anything outside christianity to confirm him,and the christian sources are all from generations after he lived.If you look how the bible was created,you see that they where all edited quite a bit,and they burned all books that where from sources who actually knew jesus.
@LaElizH I could go to wikipedia and make a page that says unicorns are real and if your an athiest they come and kill you by farting rainbows in your face.
Yea and it wouldnt need longer then an hour to delete it. Wikipedia has become a quite reliable source, and if you don´t believe a certain claim they make you can just check out their sources, which are usually very reputable if the page is about science. Usually its very reputable magazines like nature, or ivy league universities
Anyone who thinks this is a valid argument in support of intelligent design clearly DOES NOT understand the very basics of evolution by natural selection. Natural selection--look it up, folks. Instead, creationists happily choose to not do the research in order to cater to their innate cognitive bias toward teleological thinking. The problem is that understanding science requires effort. Believing in a creator doesn't.
Cells do reproduce! We know that they do it on their own. And molecules also form on their own due to the elements attractive forces. That is grade 10 chemistry man.
This is benign bullshit. So what? You think instead of looking for answers we should throw everthing in the shitter and say 'God' must have done it all... Get this in your heads religious people; Atheists aren't out there to deliberately look for shit that disproves god, they're there to believe facts and it just so happens that your theory of god is baseless, presumptive codswallop and lacking of any concrete facts. So what if putting a cell in a test tube doesn't give you insta-life?
Evolution is BULLSHIT, it hasn't even been PROOVED, yet. scientist haven't come up with one single piece of hard evidence, but ATHEISTS act like they have and that it's all settled and accepted as TRUTH.. EVOLUTION IS STILL A THEORY, with no PROOF or FACTS... science can't even explain why a bicycle works (im not kidding) the way it does, much less the true origin of CREATION and it's PURPOSE...
@KeMoniito Even if evolution had no proof, you would have to explain how dinosaur bones and diamonds got here. And how billions of different people think you are wrong...
@KeMoniito My guess would be dinosaurs created them. Same as a dog or anything that's ever existed. Would you ask "who", when a cancer cell is created, or a bad thought??? Sedimentary rock is not created by a whom... It's rediculous to phrase a question that way. Your questioning starts flawed on its own basis... That's why your answers fail.
@railroadtrash09 ..Are you retarded or something..? cancer cells have a CAUSE we all know it is a genetical disorder pretty much hereditary, and that's what I'am asking you what was the CAUSE for the BIG BANG..? what was the CAUSE that created the first molecule and for what PURPOSE , are ATOMS 'smart' entities that formed CELLS that formed LIFE all by themselves..? is that so hard to understand..?
@KeMoniito I answered you... Read much? You ask questions the wrong way. That is why you can't get any answers. I'll put it to you this way: Who caused the mold on your bread? Who caused a bullet to disform when it entered the dirt? I'm sorry you are concerned with what CAUSED the big bang, but fact of the matter is it doesn't matter what caused it. Yes and you assume everything has a purpose. What is the purpose of a mans nipples? Again, you are asking rediculous questions to fill gaps
@AstoriaRego ..NO it hasn't.. there are many experiments that prove CHANGES which we ALL are aware they occur in nature... pppfffttt..! i mean; who doesn't sees and knows that all through life and history CHANGES take place..? EVOLUTION hasn't explained where did everything CAME FROM and WHY..??? .. any fool can see that changes occur; that's not the question, the question is WHAT CREATED THOSE THINGS THAT CHANGE..? do you understand my point now..?
"you have nothing to prove it. so therefore why do waste your time being an atheist?"
Its not a waste of time. We dont give the existence of god a thought until we come across you! You however waste an enormous amount of time on your religion.
@alchemy62 i wouldnt say that thats an existentialist view. existentialism is the belief that our purpose, morals and the rest of the world is what we make of it.
" if your belief that there is no god is correct then why is it 16% and what makes you think that you can beat the other 84% or aka the rest of the world?"
1. I'm not an atheist, and never said I was. The fact that you assumed so casts doubt on your critical thinking and reasoning abilities.
2. The percentage of the world that believes any given thing is not dispositive. Even so, then I'll just go with the 2/3 that don't believe in YOUR god and leave it at that.
@MrRichardQED WHOOOOOPSY DAISY!!!!! I am SOOOO SOOOORRRRRYYYY!!!!! I read your dream thing. Was very intriguing. I AM SO SORRY for calling you an atheist/evo. But, yeah, some people have had their WHOLE LIVES TRANSFORMED when they have profound experiences such as yours, then turn from atheists to theists. You have a WONDERFUL day!!!!!
@deathshallcome2u I'm not disputing that some of her skeleton is in complete, that's not the issue. She is a bipedal specimen, but not a missing link, since they don't exist. You said Leaky lied and that is false.
@deathshallcome2u No, he didn't admit that Lucy was false. This a creation fable spread around the campfire. Please site the source of your claim, and don't post the quotes from aswersingenesis or the creation science laboratory, utter nonsense.
@deathshallcome2u Lucy isn't false. The fossil is an example of an early hominid that your crowd loves to ignore. It pushed back bipedal species by 4 million years given clues to modern man's origin. You can claim your ignorance that these fossils are false, but that's as far as you can go. Her features are too distinct to be confused with early primates, she simply is not imaginary.
@jdale1 while she is not imaginary barely only half of her skeletons and and most parts of her so called "skileton" were found all over the place. the knee that everyone thinks is what is so important on the skeleton was found 200 feet below farther than the skeleton. there is no way that it can be a part of her. its nice wishfull thinking though.
@deathshallcome2u We have 40% of her skeleton, that is actually a lot for a fossil of that age, and certainly enough to learn a great deal from her. We know that the bones attributed to her belong to a single skeleton because of the lack of duplication. If there had been several fossils in that spot, there would have been some redundancy in what was found.
@deathshallcome2u "its nice wishfull thinking though." What's wishful thinking, that they couldn't locate the bones for here knee and makes everything else false? There are plenty of dinosaur skeletons that are in complete in part or as a whole. Does this prove anything? No. Considering that a large percentage of her bones were found at all is amazing. It doesn't change the fact the earliest of our supposed ancestors (if Lucy is in fact that ancestor) existed.
@AstoriaRego my point is if it were true that we are not descended from apes but we have a common ancestor then why does it not show us it? i have not come across a single model that shows this. all ones that we have come from apes. not that we share an ancestor.
So we don't yet have a scientific answer to the question of know how life came about. Does that mean a magical spirit did it? Not only that, but your specific version of a magical spirit called Yahweh? What kind of logic is that? What if it takes much more time for non-living matter to become alive than we can observe in a lab? And even if life on Earth was created, how did the creator come about?
All you're saying is: "We don't know, therefore God!" I'm sorry to say, but that's batshit-insane.
It's not that simple. Anyways, did he do this experiment? How long did he wait? What was his control? It took millions of years for life develop. I'm not sure his experiment is valid.
The whole notion that a scientist can disprove the idea that life was created by an intelligent being by conducting an experiment where an intelligent being, i.e. the scientist, creates life seems silly to me.
The whole notion that a scientist can disprove the idea that life was created by an intelligent being by conducting an experiment where an intelligent being, i.e. the scientist, creates life seems silly to me.
@loura246 Earth is not a closed system but the argument goes that life won't spontaneously appear because you cant undo macroscopic events (breaking of an egg, death of a cell). This is a bad argument because it proves that it's impossible to make life under certain conditions yet there are still a wide range of conditions not tested. The idea of the spark if life being an accident is not far fetched.
@brightsfighter is true, my position is justified when the person making the claim fails to present evidence to support thier claim. I don't have to justify my position when I saw I don't believe in aliens. Am I absolutely certain that aliens do not exist? No, my disbelief is validated when no evidence is presented that they do exists. Are you absolutely certain that god exists and are you absolutely certain that other gods do not?
@brightsfighter not putting doubts in my head for a need to question. The opposite is for an origin of life concept. Is there a reason to doubt the creation concept? In terms of not being able to observe or experience what the concept implies there is, a lot. Is there an absolute certainity that it can be dismissed? Nope. But for someone to claim creation is a fact or happened without presenting evidence of the claim, there is reasonable doubt. I don't have to justify whether or not my position
@brightsfighter "Why is it OK to sometimes demand scientific evidence, and sometimes not to demand this same evidence?" When it's warranted. It's not difficult to obeserve to people in love. There are things you can physically observe. This would be evidence to make a logical conclusion. You must get rid of the nonsense of absolute certainty. I don't need scientific evidence for proof that someone loves me. Am I absolutely certain that she loves me? No, but based on what I experience it's not
Carbon is the fundemental building block of nearly life on earth, that was pressent, so was hydrogen and oxygen, iron etc etc. This video is wrong on so many levels...
@LaElizH For someone who provides no sources for ALL the crazy claims who have made over the last couple of days, you sure are demanding of others for sources. And when they do and it proves you wrong, you just call the sources lies. Wow
@willis936 the laws of thermodynamics only apply to a closed system, in which nothing can get in or out. earth is not a closed system, therfore that argument is not valid.
Our scientists are a lot closer to producing a living cell in a test tube than the Christers are to producing a single, solitary iota of scientific evidence that their imaginary friend in the sky who has existed for all time miracled the universe into existence out of nothing. But of course, they would never think of holding up their own beliefs to the same sort of scrutiny to which they subject those of scientists.
"Im pretty sure that Hitler did not invade Sweden." pretty sure? you need to look up things. and he also invaded norway as well which is their neighbor where do you think his source of what he called "hard water" came from that his scientists used in efforts to try to make the atomic bomb.
FUCKING WOW!!! Right over your head. Let me walk you through this. You said that atheists are pussies. As in all of them. Of course, some are, some are not. How could you know that? So i threw out that all priests are pedophiles. You head is like a stone!
@thestunnedninja if you were saying that all priests are pedophiles as an analogie to my statement of all atheists are a pussy then you seriously need to make it more clear otherwise you come across as a troll.
@thestunnedninja lol cheap one word answer. you clearly didn't tell me where i am "weak" if i was, as you say, "weak" you would back it up with some proof but you did not. this shows you only say that for self satisfaction not because there is proof.
WOW! Everything you said is weak. Do i need to tell you that? The Sweden invasion thing, the suicide sweden thing, the atheist pussy thing, the speed of light thing, and so on and so fucking on! You spoke without considering that i knew anything on the subject or that i might find it out. Fucking stupid and weak!
There. I CLEARLY told you where you were weak. There are some examples you dont have to go back very far to find. Seriously you inbred hick. You are fucking dumb as shit and need to go commit suicide swedish style. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@thestunnedninja at least im not a know it all prick. you need to go die in a fucking hole or i hope you burn to death in a fucking car crash. atheists have no life anyways. if you don't believe that we are meant to be here to love and to serve god and to be with him one day then what is a actual and valid reason to be here?
Now that is not very christiantologist of you. But you guys only really use it when you need it right doucher? I am here because my parents fucked and boom. I am a biological ecosystem living on a rock, hurtling around the sun, hurtling around a super massive blackhole. I love plenty of people and am loved back. I dont need god to make me feel better about myself after i have done something wrong. And what would you know about my life? Nothing! Go and fuck your mother!
@thestunnedninja "Now that is not very christiantologist of you" how would you know? your not a christain so how could you possibly know? you cant. " I am here because my parents fucked and boom.I am a biological ecosystem living on a rock, hurtling around the sun, hurtling around a super massive blackhole " i know how people are made dumbass. i said give me a valid reason why you should be living? " I love plenty of people and am loved back" how do you know? prove it to me!
Oh i know. I was baptized catholic and have a whole bunch of fundie whackos just like you in my family. So i can know, and i do! Why i should be living? Prove that people love me? You are grasping at straws bitch! Nothing left eh? You want me to prove that people love me? Hey, everybody has somebody that loves them. Even a pedophile, lying sack of shit like you!
@thestunnedninja no they don't you haven't proved to me one person that loves you and until you have then your statement if invalid. nice try faggot. you worthless piece of shit. atheists are worthless and have no meaning.
@thestunnedninja obviously i can type you you dumbass if i could not type then any of my previous statements would not exist as well as this one. you have failed.
@thestunnedninja poor ignorant atheist remark. its all you have. you are nothing more than a no life internet warrior. go home and play with your fucking blow up doll.
And you are the only one to show ignorance here. I am glad that you admitted that you said invalid things. And why would i fuck a blow up doll when i am pounding your mother right now?
@thestunnedninja wow. my mom jokes. what is that 3rd grade material? if you had a stronger arguement you wouldn't resort to elementary school remarks. you little childish douche.
I really do enjoy slumming with people like you, but i am done with you. I have sunk to your level long enough and have to wash the stink off of me now. Just remember, keep your dick in your pants so you dont make any babies. I dont think you have to worry about that though. I have seen you and you are as fugly as they come. You can always bang your mom though. I am sure that you live in her basement. Enjoy hell you lying, gay hating pedophile.
@thestunnedninja no, you enjoy hell you know know it all overbearing asshole that has no life other than to sit behind on a fucking computer and debate people behind a screen cause you and i know full well that if this was in real person your ass not only would get owned mentally but also physically when i choke slam your smart ass into the pavement or you through you out the motherfucking window of the 8th floor of my building.
Not too worried about hell. You know, because its not real cocksucker. But if there is one, the lying and hate you displayed last night is sending you there on a one way ticket. And it wasnt a debate. You lied through your teeth and i called you on everything. You can say you owned me all you want. Go back and look at the conversation you inbred trailer park sister fucking hick. The proof is n the writing.
And if you ever come to Ontario, i will meet you in a heart beat. Ive seen you bitch. You are a fat lazy prick. I however have been training in multiple disciplines. Ive had amateur muay thai fights, jiu jitsu tornaments, boxing and wrestling. I weigh 170 pounds with about 5% body fat. I will meet you at a border town if you want. You are a coward lying piece of shit and i would love to put a beat down on you!
@thestunnedninja lol fucking canadian. no wonder you think your so right. go back to drinking your red rose tea and taking it up the butt from justin beiber. and you having fighting training is going to do so well when i blast your fucking head off with my shotgun.
Red rose tea? Who the fuck is justin beiber? Yeah, i just happen to be an avid hunter. I gots me lots of guns. How about this. We have lots of dialogue, go back and get the answers that i gave you. The proof is in the writing. Or are you going to dismiss that too? And i dont believe you have any guns. The only thing you can shoot me with are those mammoth zits on you face. Or maybe burn me with those binoculars on your face. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@thestunnedninja man your a know it faggot that has no life. and to further prove that atheists have no substance you need to youtube "christopher hitchens gets destroyed" and watch the second video from the top. if one of your so called "experts" gets his ass kicked then what makes you think you are correct when someone smarter than you clearly gets his ass kicked?
And i havent shown you that someone loves me? That is what you focus on? That shows just how well you did last night. I even went as far as showing you some proper grammar and punctuation. And you live in a building? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Maybe after i finish kicking the shit out of you, you can take a swim in my pool. Apartment.... hahahahahahahahaha. I also own a couple of commercial properties. Maybe i can get someone to give you a job.
@thestunnedninja it was not my focus i said it to merely prove that you have not dealt with every question i have provided. proving in your last comment that you lie. you have no answered "every" thing i have said.oooh commercial properties, your such a big shot doing so well (sarcastically) there are plenty of people doing a lot better than you so you have no room to talk and say you are doing better than me. and i don't work for egotistical faggot foreigners.
I went through our whole conversation. Sweden ring a bell? Hitler? Suicides? Really? Have you already forgotten? Typical christian... its a new day, i get to start all over again. The only thing that i have not answered was that somebody loves me. How do i prove that? And if someone doesnt love me, what does that prove? And shit yeah, there are lots of people doing better than me. We still have a strong economy up here. Home still selling, businesses functioning,
You live in a building. I am pretty sure that you are poor! And again with the faggot. Why do you hate gay people? I thought christianity promotes friendly, accepting, and generous behavior. You dont seem to be this person. You have blatantly lied, spewed racist comments, cursed, threatened my life, and are just an overall terrible person. You are a piss poor example of what you are trying to promote!
Fuck it, here is the quotes ""look at sweden in ww2. if they truely believed in what they say they believe they would not have let hitler just show up and take over. but oh wait. he did."
I took care of that one. Did you bother to verify it? Nope!
"atheists have no importance to life. why do you think countries that have such i high atheist population have the highest suicide rates?
Sweden was actually 30th in the world. Countries in order are Lithuania, South Korea, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Hungary, Japan, Latvia, China, and Slovenia round out the top ten. How many of those nations have a high christian population. Do you research anything?
@thestunnedninja japan for one does not have a high christain population. you need to look at countries with high suicide rates and the ones with the most atheists. read it and weep bitch.
You also made some claims that atheists are pussies and some other silly things. But i dont have any info from studies on that. I would bet there are as many pussy atheists as theists, mechanics, farmers, forklift driver and so on. You also thought it was absolutely important for me to prove that somebody loved me. I dont even know what to do with that. So, what the fuck do you got now bitch? Nothing, just the verbal shits. Your intellect is that of my puppy!
@thestunnedninja look on how norway dealt with the invasion from hitler. "I would bet there are as many pussy atheists as theists, mechanics, farmers, forklift driver and so on. " show me. and until you can you have no proof and you are wrong. yet another thing you lie about. just like you lie that you are loved. "You also thought it was absolutely important for me to prove that somebody loved me." yes. to prove to me that your not a liar. but you haven't so therefore you are a liar.
I gave you the top 10 countries with the highest suicide rates. Do you not accept this? You claimed and i gave you the stats proving otherwise. And then you asked for them again, and i gave them to you again. Ummmm, you are the one claiming atheists are pussies. Where are your stats? I cant go against something until something is claimed. You claimed, you show me. I dont know the numbers. Do you? I cant be wrong. I havent claimed anything! So are you lying?
@thestunnedninja " I cant be wrong. I havent claimed anything! " you claimed you are loved but you haven't proved it. so your lying and like i said google. "suicide rates by countries" and then google "countries with highest atheist population" and compare them. for stupid reasons youtube wont let me post web addresses.
Are you really this dense or are you just fucking around? I gave you the suicide rates. You damn well know which ones have a high atheist population. I even have the list for that. And you call me a liar? I gave you your quotes and you have not acknowledged them. You lied, i called you on it, you asked me to prove it, i gave you your quotes with my answers and nothing. Okay, how about this, nobody loves me. Are you going to ask me to provide you with proof of that?
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@KeMoniito proposal is not part of atomic theory today. We simply don't know the cause of the big bang or why the formation of the first molecule occurred. But that's the interesring thing about science. It prides itself on discovery and being as objective as possible. Because we don't know the reason, answering questions with ignorance is not answering questions.
jdale1 4 minutes ago
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@KeMoniito Democritus's proposal of evidence of the atom was that he hypothesized that all matter (plus space and time) is composed of tiny indestructible units, called atoms. Science used indirect observation until scanning tunneling microscope equipment was able to "see" the atom. Democritus's
jdale1 12 minutes ago
This gives a new meaning to the word, STUPID
overmanonfire 59 minutes ago
He's so right, forget about cells... We need ribs to make people haha.
davidortiz7 1 hour ago 2
This moron actually believes in god.. Tsk, I hope he burns in hell for being so stupid.
Atheism FTW! 8D
ForgiveMyStupidity 1 hour ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 You are the one making these claims. I think it's high time you start presenting the evidence to support them.
jdale1 1 hour ago
@MsMi321
That's not subliminal at all. Like I said, get an encyclopedia.
The wikipedia description also seems quite accurate.
Also I was wondering whether you're going to get back at me on the whole evolution thing.
CrimsonRefractions 2 hours ago
Now that was a waste of 1 minute and 22 seconds, no proof, just more bull****
allansnowshow 2 hours ago
This just in! A scientist was recently able to synthesis a self replicating bacteria entirely from artificial material, proving this ignorant video wrong.
Killerclown360 3 hours ago
Actually abiogenesis does have evidence too. They simulated early earth conditions in a laboratory and made organic compounds.
Lathox 3 hours ago
Michael Behe has not demonstrated what he has said in this video. It is certainly possible that he is incorrect. If you do not think that evolution is correct then consider this, evolution is the most important concept in biology and medicine. The subjects that allow us to live healthier and longer lives. Quite possibly many of you who are attacking evolution would not even be alive if it weren't for the concept of evolution.
Fand421 4 hours ago
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@Fand421 "Michael Behe has not demonstrated what he has said in this video." Behe isn't in this video.
jdale1 4 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u You acknowledged earlier that atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. And then you ask what proof do we have. Do you not realize you answered your own question?
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@watchmenonthewall1 Why does the majority of the scientific community disagree with you?It's not up to us to prove these things to you, we are not scientist. We accept what science has presented as the best possible explanations based on evidence. Instead of asking us, why don't you do some research on your own and prove the scientists wrong and explain to them they have no facts or evidence. It's pretty arrogant on your part to say they have nothing. What do you have that proves them wrong?
jdale1 5 hours ago
i don't understand how it work, this proves it can't be the case.
eutectics 6 hours ago
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@KenMoniito Why does the majority of the scientific community not agree with you? We don't claim to have all of the facts and neither do scientists. We accept what science has presented. If you consider the word theory as a "guess" you need to grab a dictionary and look up what science considers a theory. If evolution is a guess, so is atomic, germ, relativity and gravity. To say evolution hasn't been "proven" is ridiculous.
jdale1 7 hours ago
is this supposed to be serious? or is it a part of a comedy show ?
zxcthethird 7 hours ago
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@TheMors666 The process by which these amino acids could form life is unknown,
Actually we are even further then that, we could show in 2008 that under the right conditions those amino acids will from a fully functional RNA from scratch via selforganization. That is not yet a lifeform. but its pretty damn close. This was always seen as the most difficult, even near impossible stage. It turned out its quite easy, which shows again you have to do the experiment to really know^^
MrRichardQED 7 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u and all those experiments have proved its impossible
Your argument makes about as much sense as if you had claimed 200 years ago that it is impossible for humans to fly,since all experiments so far have failed.That we don´t know yet how to do it isnt prove we never will.In fact we are quite close to find a way to do it,for example i have already named the experiment in which they could show an RNA can build itself through selforganization from simple chemicals
MrRichardQED 7 hours ago
Not one fact to support what was before the big bang. Not one fact to support the big bang theory. Not one fact to support abiogenesis and there is not one fact to support evolution. Now if you deny this statment, then show me your facts. Not what someone believes, not what someone says, not what someone is doing or close to doing. Show me your facts that can be verified that show one of these fantasies is true.
watchmenonthewall1 7 hours ago 2
@watchmenonthewall1 Humans share endogenous retroviruses that are embedded in our DNA that can be found with our closest relatives, as chimps and orangutangs, but the farther we look, the less of them we find until we share none with non-primates.
Sources: Published scientific journals, like Nature Genetics and Immunogenetics and dozens more, all peer reviewed by the best and the brightest.
Like any of this matters to you...
latuman 7 hours ago
@latuman You have given me an hypothesis.There are no facts to support the hypothesis.You do know that there are two main hypothesis dealing with homo erectus?Neither one are facts.As we continue to learn more about DNA we continue to see that there are more differences between species, not more similarities.Before 2002 it was claimed that humans and chimps had a 98% identical DNA.You are familiar with the 2002 research in which the DNA of humans and chimps is now down to 95%.continued
watchmenonthewall1 6 hours ago
@watchmenonthewall1 I think you misunderstand. The facts are that teh ERV's actually exist. The most reasonable explanation for them alone is common ancestry. How else would they be there in such an order, especially when this lineage is supported by other biological and paleontological evidence? What would ever be a better explanation, I want to know!
National Geographic is not a peer reviewed journal. Also it is still much closer than anything else.
latuman 4 hours ago
@latuman Sources: National Georgraphic News, September 24, 2002
watchmenonthewall1 6 hours ago
@watchmenonthewall1 Snippets from the article: "There is no consensus about how to count numbers or proportion of nucleotide insertions and deletions,"
"We haven't observed a single indel in a [gene] to date between human and chimp," said Oefner. Therefore, the revised estimate doesn't alter the amount of DNA that holds information about our species. Humans and chimps still differ by about one percent in gene sequences"
You just conveniently left these parts out.
latuman 4 hours ago
@latuman Like I said,there are no facts to support what came before the big bang,the big bang theory, abiogenesis or evolution.Hypothesis and theories continually spring up replacing previous hypothesis and theories. Just like abiogenesis replaced spontaneous generation.Listen to your own words,"the most reasonable explanation for them alone is common ancestry".An unfactual explanation is just that-unfactual.You have not one fact.
watchmenonthewall1 3 hours ago
@watchmenonthewall1 I presented the facts, you can double check them. You simply will not. Evidence does not really matter to you. I have also shown you to be quote mining and misleading in your "citations". You don't act like a trustworthy person. You'd rather skip my refutation and just jump to big bang and whatever else, but I'm not playing the game anymore.
latuman 3 hours ago
@latuman You presented no facts, you presented hypothesis and theories.I showed you that your responses were hypothesis and theories and that is all the big bang theory is, that is all abiogenesis is, and that is all evolution is, hypothesis and theories!
watchmenonthewall1 3 hours ago
@watchmenonthewall1 If you feel the need for inarguable proof of every single scientific theory out there, you cannot possibly think that you would be able to provoke said proof on youtube. And even if someone ,for some to me unimaginable reason, where to indulge in this ridiculous quest of enlightening you, it would come to a dead stop within minutes. This is due to the fact that even if proof where to be produced, you do not have the required education or set of mind to properly understand it.
necrochildreborn 6 hours ago
@necrochildreborn Thank you for showing how ignorant an evolutionist can be! You obviously have difficulty reading and understanding.I asked for facts and you did just the opposite, proving my point! Thank you.
watchmenonthewall1 6 hours ago
@watchmenonthewall1
Lets face it. I can show you piles of information, spend the next 40 years explaining shit to you, and you will still deny without even taking a real glance at the information.
thestunnedninja 5 hours ago
@thestunnedninja You have no facts to support your believe in evolution, only talk.
watchmenonthewall1 5 hours ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 None of us believe in evolution, there is no belief required.
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deathshallcome2u 3 hours ago
@thestunnedninja obviously because at any point on anything we can say we don't know and because we don't know there is the possibility that god did it. and because there is that possibility you cannot say god does not exist
deathshallcome2u 3 hours ago
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Unfortunately for your theory, in order to even consider that god has done anything, there has to be proof. You are just assuming. And if you are not assuming, then what are you basing your idea on? There must be some evidence!
thestunnedninja 1 hour ago
@thestunnedninja there is proof. something can happen but yet you don't know why. how do say that is proof? because god can do things wether or not you can see him or not! he has said it.
deathshallcome2u 1 hour ago
@thestunnedninja ...Was there "evidence" when Democritus proposed the ATOM..?... how did science found out it existed if nobody could see an atom and nobody has ever seen an atom yet with their own eyes..? why can't theists say it is a CREATOR the answer when science cannnot say it..?
KeMoniito 1 hour ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 "Not one fact to support the big bang theory." Here's two. The universe is expanding, this is a known fact. The BBT is nothing more than an expansion event that happens in the universe (empty space has a 'vacuum energy' that generates the force necessary to push matter apart.). The presence of sparctic radiation is another and what theory states you would expect from such an event. "Not one fact to support abiogenesis" Abio hasn't been proven, however
jdale1 3 hours ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 certain aspects of the hypothesis can be tested. However those experiments would have to be conducted 80 to 95 times 4.29 x 10^40 trials in order to say that these early conditions could not form a pre-life-unit. In conducting those trials, a single pre-life-unit would support the theory. This is impossible to conduct, and thus the theory is unfalsifiable. It fails to pass the basic requirements needed to be a viable scientific theory. Evolution is the
jdale1 3 hours ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 exact opposite. Evolution has tons of examples that are falsifiable. Creation is unfalsifiable, lives by absolutes and has no demonstrable or testable means at which to even bring to the table. So to say that science proves creation is false, science dismisses unfalsifiable subjects. A simple example supporting evolution is insects immunity to pesticides that previously killed them and a new strain of the flu virus every year. Tell the CDC who relies on
jdale1 3 hours ago
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@watchmenonthewall1 on evolution to develop a new vaccine every year that there are no facts to support evolution. These aren't examples you need a belief in. There is no "gray area" here. The theories are either right or their wrong. And currently there isn't better explanations or theories out there indicating what modern science has presented as wrong.
jdale1 3 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u which is not yet a lifeform, but pretty damn close. We still don´t understand how this RNA can form a simple cell, but we are very close to build life from scratch.This is design, they simply recreated the environment 4 billion years ago to the best of our knowledge,nothing else.The chemicals then started to organize themselves into an RNA.To claim we couldnt do it because we don´t know how is stupid, its like claiming 200 years ago we could never fly.
MrRichardQED 7 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u cause this just totallly disproved their theory of evolution by ...
Could your argument be any more stupid ? Hardly ^^ First of all this has NOTHING to do with evolution, since evolution is not about how life got started, its ONLY about what happened after that.
Then to really prove something you need to simulate the environment in which life was created, chemists have done that, and the chemicals started to build a fully functional RNA from scratch,-->
MrRichardQED 7 hours ago
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@LaElizH the arrogance and audacity to claim you would know better then the experts, unfuckingbelievable !!! You know the higher your education the less likely you are a creationist, that´s a fact that should make you question yourself;) !!!
How can you judge the validity of a part of science you do not really know ??? Every kid sees that makes no sense !!! Go get an education, and stop getting your "facts" fro,m creationist websites, they lie in your face !!!
MrRichardQED 7 hours ago
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@LaElizH Yeah... I could do the same thing with the LAW of Gravity, which I have.
The law of gravity is by newton, and is much less exact then the theory of relativity by albert einstein, that also describes gravity, and gives you the reason for gravity, which newton couldnt provide. Look it up, theory has a different meaning in science then it has in laymens terms. The fact that you don´t even know that, shows you don´t have the necessary knowledge to discuss science, yet you have-->
MrRichardQED 8 hours ago
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@TheMors666 And now that I think of it, I've actually answered your question twice. Pretty much the same way both times.
Interesting that you yet again dance around answering it, instead of answering it. What bothers you so much about this question ? Admit it, you would love to have evidence, but you are also scared about it.
QUOTE:"c) The quote I posted was from a week ago"
Nope, it wasnt, we where talking about it just the other day
MrRichardQED 8 hours ago
The inability for a living cell to rebuild itself after having its contents spilled into a test tube?
This is absurd,
Early life was much more basic than living cells today, hischool science is all that is neccesary to refute this illogical assumotion.
GERMS, VIRUS's are simpler forms of life, yet it isnt being discussed in science as if they where the first forms of life. This man is either ignorant, or he believes the audiance is ignorant enough to buy this load of crap.
popceed 8 hours ago
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@LaElizH There is undeniable proof that Jesus Christ was an actual man.Anyone who denies that is just being ignorant
Oh come on,even most christians admit that the historical sources are very slim at best,you have hardly anything outside christianity to confirm him,and the christian sources are all from generations after he lived.If you look how the bible was created,you see that they where all edited quite a bit,and they burned all books that where from sources who actually knew jesus.
MrRichardQED 8 hours ago
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@LaElizH I could go to wikipedia and make a page that says unicorns are real and if your an athiest they come and kill you by farting rainbows in your face.
Yea and it wouldnt need longer then an hour to delete it. Wikipedia has become a quite reliable source, and if you don´t believe a certain claim they make you can just check out their sources, which are usually very reputable if the page is about science. Usually its very reputable magazines like nature, or ivy league universities
MrRichardQED 8 hours ago
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Anyone who thinks this is a valid argument in support of intelligent design clearly DOES NOT understand the very basics of evolution by natural selection. Natural selection--look it up, folks. Instead, creationists happily choose to not do the research in order to cater to their innate cognitive bias toward teleological thinking. The problem is that understanding science requires effort. Believing in a creator doesn't.
theincurablehomebody 9 hours ago
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theincurablehomebody 9 hours ago
How does THAT explain God?
bravoaya 11 hours ago
Even if cells could've reproduce themselves and create life on earth... WHO CREATED those cells and the molecules they are made of and WHY..?
KeMoniito 11 hours ago
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Cells do reproduce! We know that they do it on their own. And molecules also form on their own due to the elements attractive forces. That is grade 10 chemistry man.
thestunnedninja 5 hours ago
This is benign bullshit. So what? You think instead of looking for answers we should throw everthing in the shitter and say 'God' must have done it all... Get this in your heads religious people; Atheists aren't out there to deliberately look for shit that disproves god, they're there to believe facts and it just so happens that your theory of god is baseless, presumptive codswallop and lacking of any concrete facts. So what if putting a cell in a test tube doesn't give you insta-life?
lollalot 11 hours ago
Evolution is BULLSHIT, it hasn't even been PROOVED, yet. scientist haven't come up with one single piece of hard evidence, but ATHEISTS act like they have and that it's all settled and accepted as TRUTH.. EVOLUTION IS STILL A THEORY, with no PROOF or FACTS... science can't even explain why a bicycle works (im not kidding) the way it does, much less the true origin of CREATION and it's PURPOSE...
KeMoniito 12 hours ago
@KeMoniito Even if evolution had no proof, you would have to explain how dinosaur bones and diamonds got here. And how billions of different people think you are wrong...
railroadtrash09 12 hours ago
@railroadtrash09 ..NO sir.. i know those bones exist, YOU have to explain , WHO created those dinosaur bones and WHY...? .. not me...
KeMoniito 11 hours ago
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"YOU have to explain , WHO created those dinosaur bones and WHY...?"
What would be the reason for anyone to come to the conclusion that anyone would be responsible for creating it?
thestunnedninja 5 hours ago
@KeMoniito My guess would be dinosaurs created them. Same as a dog or anything that's ever existed. Would you ask "who", when a cancer cell is created, or a bad thought??? Sedimentary rock is not created by a whom... It's rediculous to phrase a question that way. Your questioning starts flawed on its own basis... That's why your answers fail.
railroadtrash09 3 hours ago
@railroadtrash09 ..Are you retarded or something..? cancer cells have a CAUSE we all know it is a genetical disorder pretty much hereditary, and that's what I'am asking you what was the CAUSE for the BIG BANG..? what was the CAUSE that created the first molecule and for what PURPOSE , are ATOMS 'smart' entities that formed CELLS that formed LIFE all by themselves..? is that so hard to understand..?
KeMoniito 58 minutes ago
@KeMoniito I answered you... Read much? You ask questions the wrong way. That is why you can't get any answers. I'll put it to you this way: Who caused the mold on your bread? Who caused a bullet to disform when it entered the dirt? I'm sorry you are concerned with what CAUSED the big bang, but fact of the matter is it doesn't matter what caused it. Yes and you assume everything has a purpose. What is the purpose of a mans nipples? Again, you are asking rediculous questions to fill gaps
railroadtrash09 4 minutes ago
@KeMoniito Evolution has been proven. Lenski conclusively proved it in an experiment at the University of Michigan.
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@AstoriaRego ..NO it hasn't.. there are many experiments that prove CHANGES which we ALL are aware they occur in nature... pppfffttt..! i mean; who doesn't sees and knows that all through life and history CHANGES take place..? EVOLUTION hasn't explained where did everything CAME FROM and WHY..??? .. any fool can see that changes occur; that's not the question, the question is WHAT CREATED THOSE THINGS THAT CHANGE..? do you understand my point now..?
KeMoniito 11 hours ago
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"the question is WHAT CREATED THOSE THINGS THAT CHANGE..?"
Which forces the question..... What evidence is there that would make this plausible?
thestunnedninja 5 hours ago
@AstoriaRego you see? you have nothing to prove it. so therefore why do waste your time being an atheist?
deathshallcome2u 10 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u time spent being an atheist is time well spent. We get to enjoy life without being blinded by religious bullshit.
TRR47 9 hours ago
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"you have nothing to prove it. so therefore why do waste your time being an atheist?"
Its not a waste of time. We dont give the existence of god a thought until we come across you! You however waste an enormous amount of time on your religion.
thestunnedninja 5 hours ago
@alchemy62 i wouldnt say that thats an existentialist view. existentialism is the belief that our purpose, morals and the rest of the world is what we make of it.
exzactlyy 13 hours ago
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" if your belief that there is no god is correct then why is it 16% and what makes you think that you can beat the other 84% or aka the rest of the world?"
1. I'm not an atheist, and never said I was. The fact that you assumed so casts doubt on your critical thinking and reasoning abilities.
2. The percentage of the world that believes any given thing is not dispositive. Even so, then I'll just go with the 2/3 that don't believe in YOUR god and leave it at that.
AstoriaRego 13 hours ago
I'm not sure how you disprove disbelief...
jerm1027 13 hours ago
@MrRichardQED WHOOOOOPSY DAISY!!!!! I am SOOOO SOOOORRRRRYYYY!!!!! I read your dream thing. Was very intriguing. I AM SO SORRY for calling you an atheist/evo. But, yeah, some people have had their WHOLE LIVES TRANSFORMED when they have profound experiences such as yours, then turn from atheists to theists. You have a WONDERFUL day!!!!!
Vidiot760 15 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u I'm not disputing that some of her skeleton is in complete, that's not the issue. She is a bipedal specimen, but not a missing link, since they don't exist. You said Leaky lied and that is false.
jdale1 16 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u No, he didn't admit that Lucy was false. This a creation fable spread around the campfire. Please site the source of your claim, and don't post the quotes from aswersingenesis or the creation science laboratory, utter nonsense.
jdale1 17 hours ago
Stop bitching?
TheSubberBoy 17 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u Lucy isn't false. The fossil is an example of an early hominid that your crowd loves to ignore. It pushed back bipedal species by 4 million years given clues to modern man's origin. You can claim your ignorance that these fossils are false, but that's as far as you can go. Her features are too distinct to be confused with early primates, she simply is not imaginary.
jdale1 17 hours ago
@jdale1 while she is not imaginary barely only half of her skeletons and and most parts of her so called "skileton" were found all over the place. the knee that everyone thinks is what is so important on the skeleton was found 200 feet below farther than the skeleton. there is no way that it can be a part of her. its nice wishfull thinking though.
deathshallcome2u 17 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u We have 40% of her skeleton, that is actually a lot for a fossil of that age, and certainly enough to learn a great deal from her. We know that the bones attributed to her belong to a single skeleton because of the lack of duplication. If there had been several fossils in that spot, there would have been some redundancy in what was found.
AstoriaRego 16 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u "its nice wishfull thinking though." What's wishful thinking, that they couldn't locate the bones for here knee and makes everything else false? There are plenty of dinosaur skeletons that are in complete in part or as a whole. Does this prove anything? No. Considering that a large percentage of her bones were found at all is amazing. It doesn't change the fact the earliest of our supposed ancestors (if Lucy is in fact that ancestor) existed.
jdale1 4 hours ago
So how, exactly, does this disprove atheists?
25411959 17 hours ago
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@AstoriaRego my point is if it were true that we are not descended from apes but we have a common ancestor then why does it not show us it? i have not come across a single model that shows this. all ones that we have come from apes. not that we share an ancestor.
deathshallcome2u 19 hours ago
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deathshallcome2u 19 hours ago
So we don't yet have a scientific answer to the question of know how life came about. Does that mean a magical spirit did it? Not only that, but your specific version of a magical spirit called Yahweh? What kind of logic is that? What if it takes much more time for non-living matter to become alive than we can observe in a lab? And even if life on Earth was created, how did the creator come about?
All you're saying is: "We don't know, therefore God!" I'm sorry to say, but that's batshit-insane.
kresimircindric 19 hours ago
...and this "disproves" atheism how?
ninjamojo711 21 hours ago
what part of this is related to disaproving atheist? what i see is someone giving scientific difference to evolution.
and if the evolution cannot be proved by scientist, that means there is god?
its like seeing tribal people sacrificing humans to appease volcano eruption.
if you stop them that means you disrespect their god and who knows their god might be real, and you will go to hell for it.
if you dont stop them and believe their god, then you really dont have a brain.
superstd 21 hours ago
It's not that simple. Anyways, did he do this experiment? How long did he wait? What was his control? It took millions of years for life develop. I'm not sure his experiment is valid.
shoogie06 21 hours ago
this is a horrible argument. proves that even if ur old and have grey hair, u can still be a complete moron.
keggerous 21 hours ago
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The whole notion that a scientist can disprove the idea that life was created by an intelligent being by conducting an experiment where an intelligent being, i.e. the scientist, creates life seems silly to me.
ianmcolvin 1 day ago
The whole notion that a scientist can disprove the idea that life was created by an intelligent being by conducting an experiment where an intelligent being, i.e. the scientist, creates life seems silly to me.
ianmcolvin 1 day ago
@loura246 Earth is not a closed system but the argument goes that life won't spontaneously appear because you cant undo macroscopic events (breaking of an egg, death of a cell). This is a bad argument because it proves that it's impossible to make life under certain conditions yet there are still a wide range of conditions not tested. The idea of the spark if life being an accident is not far fetched.
willis936 1 day ago
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@brightsfighter is true, my position is justified when the person making the claim fails to present evidence to support thier claim. I don't have to justify my position when I saw I don't believe in aliens. Am I absolutely certain that aliens do not exist? No, my disbelief is validated when no evidence is presented that they do exists. Are you absolutely certain that god exists and are you absolutely certain that other gods do not?
jdale1 1 day ago
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@brightsfighter not putting doubts in my head for a need to question. The opposite is for an origin of life concept. Is there a reason to doubt the creation concept? In terms of not being able to observe or experience what the concept implies there is, a lot. Is there an absolute certainity that it can be dismissed? Nope. But for someone to claim creation is a fact or happened without presenting evidence of the claim, there is reasonable doubt. I don't have to justify whether or not my position
jdale1 1 day ago
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@brightsfighter "Why is it OK to sometimes demand scientific evidence, and sometimes not to demand this same evidence?" When it's warranted. It's not difficult to obeserve to people in love. There are things you can physically observe. This would be evidence to make a logical conclusion. You must get rid of the nonsense of absolute certainty. I don't need scientific evidence for proof that someone loves me. Am I absolutely certain that she loves me? No, but based on what I experience it's not
jdale1 1 day ago
Wow! I guess it must have been a supernatural being with a magic hat all along!
demonorse 1 day ago 5
Carbon is the fundemental building block of nearly life on earth, that was pressent, so was hydrogen and oxygen, iron etc etc. This video is wrong on so many levels...
TheDarkAngelDani 1 day ago in playlist Golden Crocoduck nominees 2012 2
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@LaElizH For someone who provides no sources for ALL the crazy claims who have made over the last couple of days, you sure are demanding of others for sources. And when they do and it proves you wrong, you just call the sources lies. Wow
jdale1 1 day ago
It's no wonnder the like/dislike bar looks like a Darth Vader Lightsaber. This idiot is a fucking idiot. I Poke you asshol. POKE POKE POKE!
TheCrimsonification 1 day ago
This guy knows his laws of thermodynamics. Too bad he never took chemistry.
willis936 1 day ago 12
@willis936 et al: Don't be too hard on this Moron, he probably still believes in the tooth fairy.
CaptRhett1 1 day ago
@willis936 the laws of thermodynamics only apply to a closed system, in which nothing can get in or out. earth is not a closed system, therfore that argument is not valid.
loura246 1 day ago
Brilliant! Recreating evolution in 1 semester.
TheRobin3212 1 day ago
Our scientists are a lot closer to producing a living cell in a test tube than the Christers are to producing a single, solitary iota of scientific evidence that their imaginary friend in the sky who has existed for all time miracled the universe into existence out of nothing. But of course, they would never think of holding up their own beliefs to the same sort of scrutiny to which they subject those of scientists.
maikeru48 1 day ago
FACT: the universe and everything in it is all energy, and energy CANNOT be destroyed, only transferred.
-You think you all come from oblivion and then when you die you just go back into oblivion?
FACT: What people think is possible is just based on what they were taught was impossible.
glasspig 1 day ago
"Im pretty sure that Hitler did not invade Sweden." pretty sure? you need to look up things. and he also invaded norway as well which is their neighbor where do you think his source of what he called "hard water" came from that his scientists used in efforts to try to make the atomic bomb.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
FUCKING WOW!!! Right over your head. Let me walk you through this. You said that atheists are pussies. As in all of them. Of course, some are, some are not. How could you know that? So i threw out that all priests are pedophiles. You head is like a stone!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja if you were saying that all priests are pedophiles as an analogie to my statement of all atheists are a pussy then you seriously need to make it more clear otherwise you come across as a troll.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Weak!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja lol cheap one word answer. you clearly didn't tell me where i am "weak" if i was, as you say, "weak" you would back it up with some proof but you did not. this shows you only say that for self satisfaction not because there is proof.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
WOW! Everything you said is weak. Do i need to tell you that? The Sweden invasion thing, the suicide sweden thing, the atheist pussy thing, the speed of light thing, and so on and so fucking on! You spoke without considering that i knew anything on the subject or that i might find it out. Fucking stupid and weak!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
There. I CLEARLY told you where you were weak. There are some examples you dont have to go back very far to find. Seriously you inbred hick. You are fucking dumb as shit and need to go commit suicide swedish style. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja at least im not a know it all prick. you need to go die in a fucking hole or i hope you burn to death in a fucking car crash. atheists have no life anyways. if you don't believe that we are meant to be here to love and to serve god and to be with him one day then what is a actual and valid reason to be here?
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Now that is not very christiantologist of you. But you guys only really use it when you need it right doucher? I am here because my parents fucked and boom. I am a biological ecosystem living on a rock, hurtling around the sun, hurtling around a super massive blackhole. I love plenty of people and am loved back. I dont need god to make me feel better about myself after i have done something wrong. And what would you know about my life? Nothing! Go and fuck your mother!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja "Now that is not very christiantologist of you" how would you know? your not a christain so how could you possibly know? you cant. " I am here because my parents fucked and boom.I am a biological ecosystem living on a rock, hurtling around the sun, hurtling around a super massive blackhole " i know how people are made dumbass. i said give me a valid reason why you should be living? " I love plenty of people and am loved back" how do you know? prove it to me!
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Oh i know. I was baptized catholic and have a whole bunch of fundie whackos just like you in my family. So i can know, and i do! Why i should be living? Prove that people love me? You are grasping at straws bitch! Nothing left eh? You want me to prove that people love me? Hey, everybody has somebody that loves them. Even a pedophile, lying sack of shit like you!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja no they don't you haven't proved to me one person that loves you and until you have then your statement if invalid. nice try faggot. you worthless piece of shit. atheists are worthless and have no meaning.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Okay the word is proven. Seriously, you cant type, think, read. Just dumb!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja obviously i can type you you dumbass if i could not type then any of my previous statements would not exist as well as this one. you have failed.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
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@deathshallcome2u
"obviously i can type you you dumbass if i could not type then any of my previous statements would not exist as well as this one. you have failed."
Let me fix this for you dumb dumb.
Obviously i can type you dumbass! If i could not type, then any of my previous statements would not exist, including this one!You have failed!
Yuppers, i am the failure here.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
The only ass i have ever fucked was your mothers!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja poor ignorant atheist remark. its all you have. you are nothing more than a no life internet warrior. go home and play with your fucking blow up doll.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
And you are the only one to show ignorance here. I am glad that you admitted that you said invalid things. And why would i fuck a blow up doll when i am pounding your mother right now?
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja wow. my mom jokes. what is that 3rd grade material? if you had a stronger arguement you wouldn't resort to elementary school remarks. you little childish douche.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Hey, even 3rd grade material is beyond you!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
And thats just it, i have shown all of your comments to be either erroneous or lies. Which is it? Are you wrong, or a liar?
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja if i had the option between the two? which is the better of both you mean?
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Are you fucking dumb? You have either lied about sweden, hitler, and the suicides, or you are misinformed.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
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deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
I really do enjoy slumming with people like you, but i am done with you. I have sunk to your level long enough and have to wash the stink off of me now. Just remember, keep your dick in your pants so you dont make any babies. I dont think you have to worry about that though. I have seen you and you are as fugly as they come. You can always bang your mom though. I am sure that you live in her basement. Enjoy hell you lying, gay hating pedophile.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
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deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
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@thestunnedninja no, you enjoy hell you know know it all overbearing asshole that has no life other than to sit behind on a fucking computer and debate people behind a screen cause you and i know full well that if this was in real person your ass not only would get owned mentally but also physically when i choke slam your smart ass into the pavement or you through you out the motherfucking window of the 8th floor of my building.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
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@deathshallcome2u i know the fact that countries with high atheist population have some of the highest suicide rates. more than ones that aren't.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Not too worried about hell. You know, because its not real cocksucker. But if there is one, the lying and hate you displayed last night is sending you there on a one way ticket. And it wasnt a debate. You lied through your teeth and i called you on everything. You can say you owned me all you want. Go back and look at the conversation you inbred trailer park sister fucking hick. The proof is n the writing.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
And if you ever come to Ontario, i will meet you in a heart beat. Ive seen you bitch. You are a fat lazy prick. I however have been training in multiple disciplines. Ive had amateur muay thai fights, jiu jitsu tornaments, boxing and wrestling. I weigh 170 pounds with about 5% body fat. I will meet you at a border town if you want. You are a coward lying piece of shit and i would love to put a beat down on you!
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja lol fucking canadian. no wonder you think your so right. go back to drinking your red rose tea and taking it up the butt from justin beiber. and you having fighting training is going to do so well when i blast your fucking head off with my shotgun.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Red rose tea? Who the fuck is justin beiber? Yeah, i just happen to be an avid hunter. I gots me lots of guns. How about this. We have lots of dialogue, go back and get the answers that i gave you. The proof is in the writing. Or are you going to dismiss that too? And i dont believe you have any guns. The only thing you can shoot me with are those mammoth zits on you face. Or maybe burn me with those binoculars on your face. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
thestunnedninja 23 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
That is your school?
thestunnedninja 20 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
Man have you taken a fucking beating tonight.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja man your a know it faggot that has no life. and to further prove that atheists have no substance you need to youtube "christopher hitchens gets destroyed" and watch the second video from the top. if one of your so called "experts" gets his ass kicked then what makes you think you are correct when someone smarter than you clearly gets his ass kicked?
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
Weak! Grasping at straws again. You just keep on moving the subject to take the heat off of your stupid ass.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja you do the same by keep bringing up that your banging my mom. that is moving the subject. you fucking hypocritical dumbass.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
I havent moved the subject. Everything you have brought up, i have dealt with.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja no you haven't you have not shown to me proof that you are loved. so you haven't dealt with that.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja and saying my mom is proof that is just a ignorant and smart ass remark and you still haven't shown me.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
And i havent shown you that someone loves me? That is what you focus on? That shows just how well you did last night. I even went as far as showing you some proper grammar and punctuation. And you live in a building? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Maybe after i finish kicking the shit out of you, you can take a swim in my pool. Apartment.... hahahahahahahahaha. I also own a couple of commercial properties. Maybe i can get someone to give you a job.
thestunnedninja 1 day ago
@thestunnedninja it was not my focus i said it to merely prove that you have not dealt with every question i have provided. proving in your last comment that you lie. you have no answered "every" thing i have said.oooh commercial properties, your such a big shot doing so well (sarcastically) there are plenty of people doing a lot better than you so you have no room to talk and say you are doing better than me. and i don't work for egotistical faggot foreigners.
deathshallcome2u 1 day ago
@deathshallcome2u
I went through our whole conversation. Sweden ring a bell? Hitler? Suicides? Really? Have you already forgotten? Typical christian... its a new day, i get to start all over again. The only thing that i have not answered was that somebody loves me. How do i prove that? And if someone doesnt love me, what does that prove? And shit yeah, there are lots of people doing better than me. We still have a strong economy up here. Home still selling, businesses functioning,
thestunnedninja 23 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
You live in a building. I am pretty sure that you are poor! And again with the faggot. Why do you hate gay people? I thought christianity promotes friendly, accepting, and generous behavior. You dont seem to be this person. You have blatantly lied, spewed racist comments, cursed, threatened my life, and are just an overall terrible person. You are a piss poor example of what you are trying to promote!
thestunnedninja 23 hours ago
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@deathshallcome2u
Fuck it, here is the quotes ""look at sweden in ww2. if they truely believed in what they say they believe they would not have let hitler just show up and take over. but oh wait. he did."
I took care of that one. Did you bother to verify it? Nope!
thestunnedninja 22 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
"atheists have no importance to life. why do you think countries that have such i high atheist population have the highest suicide rates?
Sweden was actually 30th in the world. Countries in order are Lithuania, South Korea, Guyana, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Hungary, Japan, Latvia, China, and Slovenia round out the top ten. How many of those nations have a high christian population. Do you research anything?
thestunnedninja 22 hours ago
@thestunnedninja japan for one does not have a high christain population. you need to look at countries with high suicide rates and the ones with the most atheists. read it and weep bitch.
deathshallcome2u 22 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
You also made some claims that atheists are pussies and some other silly things. But i dont have any info from studies on that. I would bet there are as many pussy atheists as theists, mechanics, farmers, forklift driver and so on. You also thought it was absolutely important for me to prove that somebody loved me. I dont even know what to do with that. So, what the fuck do you got now bitch? Nothing, just the verbal shits. Your intellect is that of my puppy!
thestunnedninja 22 hours ago
@thestunnedninja look on how norway dealt with the invasion from hitler. "I would bet there are as many pussy atheists as theists, mechanics, farmers, forklift driver and so on. " show me. and until you can you have no proof and you are wrong. yet another thing you lie about. just like you lie that you are loved. "You also thought it was absolutely important for me to prove that somebody loved me." yes. to prove to me that your not a liar. but you haven't so therefore you are a liar.
deathshallcome2u 22 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
I gave you the top 10 countries with the highest suicide rates. Do you not accept this? You claimed and i gave you the stats proving otherwise. And then you asked for them again, and i gave them to you again. Ummmm, you are the one claiming atheists are pussies. Where are your stats? I cant go against something until something is claimed. You claimed, you show me. I dont know the numbers. Do you? I cant be wrong. I havent claimed anything! So are you lying?
thestunnedninja 22 hours ago
@thestunnedninja " I cant be wrong. I havent claimed anything! " you claimed you are loved but you haven't proved it. so your lying and like i said google. "suicide rates by countries" and then google "countries with highest atheist population" and compare them. for stupid reasons youtube wont let me post web addresses.
deathshallcome2u 22 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
Are you really this dense or are you just fucking around? I gave you the suicide rates. You damn well know which ones have a high atheist population. I even have the list for that. And you call me a liar? I gave you your quotes and you have not acknowledged them. You lied, i called you on it, you asked me to prove it, i gave you your quotes with my answers and nothing. Okay, how about this, nobody loves me. Are you going to ask me to provide you with proof of that?
thestunnedninja 21 hours ago
@thestunnedninja the proof is the lack of evidence. there is no evidence to show you are loved and that is my proof.
deathshallcome2u 21 hours ago
@deathshallcome2u
And you are still ignoring everything. DOUCHE BAG! And nobody loves me. Oh and did you prove any of your claims yet? Nope. Why, because you are fake!
thestunnedninja 21 hours ago