COMPARE: Hollywood Strings and Edirol Orchestral

[metalious]

Is this a joke?

[TheGlow101]

Hollywood Strings...but I have to admit that the production on the Hollywood demo was spectacular so it obviously helps.



[Mattwisest]

Hollywood strings is smoother and better quality

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

Hollywood strings is obviously superior, but edirol isn't bad at all. I can't wait to some day get my hands on Hollywood Strings

[xaquito91]

Hollywood Strings: 1 - Edirol Orchestral: 0

[SwampLord07]

I really loved the music, whose composition is this?

[Savantix]

Hollywood strings wins, hands DOWN. I don't have either program but the sound quality from Hollywood strings makes Edirol sound terrible. Edirol isn't all that bad sounding really, its just that the Hollywood strings program manages to get SO close to real sounding that I don't think most people could tell the difference.

[Maleficus100]

Unfortunately I don't have $150 lying around, nor do I have 310GB... so I guess I'm stuck with Edirol for now...

[geoboy333]

oh come on people!! as if your actually defending the piece of crap that is edirol against Hollywood strings. yeah edirol is smaller but I'd certainly make space for it if I had Hollwood strings. Miroslav Philharmonik sounds better than edirol.

[ArGyProductions]

The dynamics of Hollywood strings is truly formidable

[germusictv]

what is the song???

[germusictv]

what is the song on the first part??

[serhat2174]

the first part is so good i come here to listen sometimes

[dom7912]

Hollywood strings is UNBELIEVEABLE!!

[dom7912]

God damn it.. this sounds soo good!

[D3TOSS]

holy shit this is so amazing! :O

[erickhcabrera]

Great work... of course HS has the power of Gigas, but Edirol cover it for a rapid sketch. Congratulations!

[mateadam]

This is like comparing Fiat to a Ferrari

[Davemustang2600]

Ya I have LASS. Kills this.

[TheFluffyBunny15]

LASS is another great vst... expensive, but great.

[taicleis]

I was blown away by how decent Edirol sounds. Less than 1 GB.

LESS THAN 1 GB.

HOW THE FUCK

[garsett]

Gee, what a difference! Hollywood Strings is so much richer! Edirol sounds like a toy compared to it...

[MrKeyflo]

HOllywood is brighter, but im sure with EQ the edirol can sound good.

[Thobbeenglund]

Check out my two songs "Why the rum is always gone" and "Varg", both made with Edirol.

[Thobbeenglund]

Nice!

[manny75586]

wow the difference is pretty minimal all things considered. (price, size etc) You can still tell when the strings sweep upward into a higher tessitura which one is actually string samples and which is synthesis but it isn't nearly as overt and troubling as it has been. That is an excellent plug in for scratch renders if you wanna rip something off to show to clients or for personal use to 'check your work' quickly. 

[prantare]

Wow .. Hollywood Strings are seriously amazing

[adubb805]

its all in the producer...mixing and mastering.

[ImCalebRosengard]

Am I the only one who can't see any difference at all?

[evanduffycomposer]

@ImCalebRosengard possibly.

[psyhhogril]

@ImCalebRosengard me to.....

[ImCalebRosengard]

@psyhhogril Thank you :)

[markadair]

Sooooooo expensive

[godlordy]

do you have the flp file for this song?

[SilentJayWest]

Hollywood Strings is CLEARLY better. People complaining bout it being too big need to step their PC/MAC game up. NO EXCUSES, step up your shit don't blame the program.

[TroutmanRoger]

Lol you are crazy ! You can't compare 218mb with 310GB recorded with a lot of mic !

[Treijim]

this doesnt do edirol justice. of course if you use the slow strings instrument you lose attack and a lot of the flow of the melody. you can also easily add some release to the instruments to help with the flow.

[DRakomol]

you gotta buy a new computer just to install hollywood...

i prefer edirol.

[mpiskotos]

Do you have by any chance the midi file?

[ANnoitedBeatz]

I played in the band Edirol dysfunctionz is rite the inferior quality is easily noticeable. But the size REALLY matters honestly youd need terrabytes of memory to play EastWest VSTs. You'd need to be a big time producer.

[baswelsink]

@ANnoitedBeatz NO THAT IS SO NOT TRUE. I am 17 years old I put my own computer together with the newest I7 processor, 4 TB and 32 gb RAM, it is not that expensive if you do it yourself. And it is not that hard. I have got HW strings, silk, gypsy, MOR2, Voices of passion, Symphonic choirs and pianos. It works easily with me!

[ANnoitedBeatz]

@baswelsink But there is NO way that was cheap to but all that. I have a $400 Dell desktop and a fruity loops demo and I'm making music. That is way cheaper than what you've listed.

[baswelsink]

@ANnoitedBeatz The computer parts were in total 1000 euros that is not expensive for a computer like this. and yeah ok the vsts are expensive but i work a lot, and i dont mind spending money on something i like.

[ANnoitedBeatz]

@baswelsink It's not a don't mind situation for alot of us. 1000 euros is near 1.5 k in US dollars and that's way more than I can afford before I even buy the VSTs, if you really think that isn't expensive then you have enough bread to be a big time producer. But I like you setup I'll keep it in mind.

[baswelsink]

@ANnoitedBeatz Well it is a tip from me. But never buy a computer in the store buy every part yourself and than you can make a beast with this money. and when i had 12 weeks summervacation i worked 6 days a week so i saved a lot of money. just work a lot.

[ANnoitedBeatz]

@baswelsink I can't even believe you said that in this economy... but anyway you say buy EVERY part in the store? chasis, RAM, motherboard, harddrive?

[baswelsink]

@ANnoitedBeatz Well I live in Holland we aint got it bad overhere, nobody does even notice the recession. You live in the USA that is of course a different story, I think it is a weird country you live in, but that is my opinion. And the best way to keep the economy on track is by spending money. Just find a webshop that is less expensive. You also got shops where you can customize a computer, you just pay a small amount of money and they will put it together.

[70shorrorfilms]

is this compatible with fl studio?

[AtOdinsCall]

East West just makes consistently amazing products and to compare these two is like trying to separate Fender and Squire guitars without knowing a thing about guitars. Best bang for your buck has to go to Edirol though.

[orwell9788]

This was odd to compare because one was a synth patch at 300mb while the other is more of a sampler of collected wav files around 50gb (I use gold edition) so of course HS sounded worlds better than the other. The reverb (was recorded in a wonderful concert hall), articulation and bow movement is just too hard for a synth to reproduce but it did as good a job as a synth can. HS or LA Scoring String are live recorded samples and you really can't beat that. (Though it eats at your RAM and HDD lik

[djduckyduck]

I Use Edirol alot. from this video all i can say is the hollywood sound like the mix was a little better. a little

[andrewh817]

Question for anyone who uses Edirol in FL Studio: Do you need a separate channel on the step sequencer for each sound?

[Eternalstudio23]

@andrewh817 You can either have a seperate instance of the VST running in seperate channels, all playing a different instrument. or you can have one instance of the VST in one channel with several midi out channels connected to it. Simply open one orchestral up in a channel, go to the settings and change the port to one. Then open a midi out vst into a channel and set the port to one on it, and whatever channel it is set on will control the channel it corresponds with.

[Ichigekikai]

Edirol is better simply because it's not that gargantuan fat ass gigabyte eating collosal memory destroying hollywood strings.

[baswelsink]

@Ichigekikai Well just buy a good computer than, it is all about the sound.

[popodadon]

@Ichigekikai Hollywood Strings come on it's own hard drive..

[jkclvjfdojgfpg]

@Ichigekikai

Edyrol is Very Powerful instrument it has a luck of quality in samples on high frequences but still rocks mostly thanks for his unic technology. Flutes and woodwinds are better than in any modern GB libs.

[MattismPL]

jesus christ - did you program this clip?

[8MKWeb8]

You sir are awesome for also having that Zune XP theme that I also have.

/gives virtual cookie

[solidus927]

Edirol is great to use as backup. I recently figured out how to put the VST into the plugins on FL studio. Didnt know it was in the commons folders. I was completely lost for 2 days. I finally figured it out and got it working. Iwas imidiatly able to use the midi outputs i had programmed for edirol and wala. All my projects came alive with Hollywood Strings and its the most beutiful sound I ever conducted on my computer. FL studio's is awesome, but there is one problem. vol control??

[MrBestbeatmaker]

hollywood strings=music the transformers 3

[karimds]

EDIROL = 300 MB....

HOLLYWOOD=GIGAS AND GIGAS....

THAT IS ALL FOLKS!!

[HipHopApocaliptica]

hollywood is a lot clearer than edirol. Dynamic isnt quite so good in Orchestral like in the HW Pack. Acctually u can hear in the first 10 sec. the diffrence in the orchestral whe it's playin. Some1 with ears know's what i mean But. Orchestral isn't useless! it's an acceptable alternative too HW, if u havent the chance to get the hollywoodpack. Stay tuned!

[bo7mod2009]

hollywood is like a real sound

edirol sound is more epic

[DJRedShirt]

what song is this?

[jrmcgujan]

Pls could you sharing your MidiFile pls?? I will compare de difference myself...but I prefer H.S for sound I prefer E.O for price

[LProds]

@jrmcgujan I'd love to have the MIDI file too, just to have a clue on how to make beautiful string arrangements like this...

[MNBeats]

Wow. Hollywood Strings sounds way better

[sparkster7744]

SO!

What's better... Strings or Edirol?? ._.

[ZeranZeran]

As someone who has not played violin edirol sounds insanely close to the first strings.

[Karisigurd]

only a retard would think edirol sounds better

[MRMIZ1]

Yeah man. You dont know read, so YOU CANT follow a discussion. LOL!! @Karisigurd

[mcmarkes]

Edirol sounds very good for that price, but Hollywood Strings are the better choise in my opinion, when money doesn't matter.

[MRMIZ1]

Thats true!! A Macbook pro and a lot of ram make a difference. Hollywood Strings, Omnisphere, anything!!@mcmarkes

[nextJW]

Hollywood strings just has a much richer and fuller tone than any sound library I've heard.

[MRMIZ1]

Edirol Orchestral is great. Remember, its a software SYNTHESIZER (less than 300 MB). Hollywood strings sounds better. But is a SAMPLING SOUNDS COLLECTION (How many gigas is?). Playing on stage, Edirol is better.

[baswelsink]

@MRMIZ1 you just need a computer with sample streaming and loading is as fast as with edirol. sample streaming is a harddisk with a RPM of 7200

[MRMIZ1]

Thats a good answer. I want to upgrade mi gear to software instruments. Computers are for me 50% of confidence. Now I got a solution. Thanks man!! @baswelsink

[beatmaker17]

load midi :D

[DavidakaChronic]

Hollywood Strings sound much better

[gabomedellin2]

Try doing the same thing but with the Ship Wrecked demo in Hollywood strings web page, and I’m sure you’ll see that edirols orquestra is just way out of the league of hollywood strings. For me this demo is good but I think hollywood strings can do much better.

[MistPlankton8]

Did you made this by ear? or found notes somewhere

It's amazing that 100MB Library sounds that good.

[coccinelsucrer]

How much does Hollywood Strings cost? It sounds so realistic! I've just started to use Edirol and i was so excited about how amazing it sounded to me, but my enthusiasm quickly dropped after listening to this. There's not even a need to be a professional to hear that Hollywood Strings completely killed Edirol.

Edirol still sounds very nice though, if there's no comparasion involved.

[nicolashrv]

@coccinelsucrer Is not only about how much HS cost......which is $1200 + -

You have to buy a new computer for sure, at least 8GB Ram, and Quad Core, to have it running steady and use all its capabilities.

This Demo was not made in a single computer. You need also a console, which cost in the hundreds of thousands $.

Edirol is only $100, and works on any computer, the whole orchestra at the time. And their Demos can be reproduced in any computer.

[coccinelsucrer]

@nicolashrv

'kay, thanks for your answer.

Do you use Edirol with FL Studio? I have a little problem with this software and since you seem to know how it works, i thought i could ask you about it. I made a song with Edirol, using different instruments, but after closing my FL studio project and re-opening it, all the instruments were back to their default settings, a flute. Do you absolutely have to set all the instruments again everytime you open a project? Is there no other way?

[nicolashrv]

@coccinelsucrer yes, Edirol has to get some config to remember how you configurated each track......I honestly never learned how to do it, all explanations are too weird to follow up, will be better if you contact Edirol developers.

[94brian]

@coccinelsucrer

theres a way actually...you can go to the 'system' under EDIROL ORCHESTRA on the interface...den choose File,save all the thing...once you restart your project again...you just need to simply load the setting...

cheers and sorry for my english xD

[MithraMusic]

@nicolashrv Sorry, that's just not true. HS Gold costs 595. Diamond costs 995.

[nicolashrv]

@MithraMusic now, after release diamond costed $1200

[MithraMusic]

@nicolashrv Yeah, but it was released over a year ago and your comment was made one month ago. Plus even a year ago there was the Gold option which was still less than a thousand dollars. That plus the fact that Edirol is really about 300 makes me feel like you're not representing prices very accurately.

[nicolashrv]

@MithraMusic Edirol can be purchased for $100.

I really think you are the one talking BS about the price.

And now it cost $600 because the Diamond edition is available. Stop talking BS. From its release till the release of Diamond Edition, a couple of weeks ago, the price was $1000-1200.

Get a life.

[MithraMusic]

@nicolashrv Gold and Diamond have been available since about a month after release, over a year ago, and the price for both was dropped in April or May in-line with their Buy One Get One Free promotions. And where are you finding Edirol for 100? The MSRP is listed as 385, the cheapest one on Google Shops is 299. These are all verifiable facts. I'm still waiting for the same from you.

[MithraMusic]

@MithraMusic Edit--Gold was released a few months after Diamond, but it's still been out for almost a year. I can direct you to the exact discussion from the producers about this if you would like. BTW Diamond has always been available, it's Gold that's the more economical version that was released a bit later.

[nicolashrv]

@MithraMusic you can get it on ebay for $100.

And who cares when it was released? The fact is it was $999 when it was released, and later they dropped it when Diamond arrived.

[MithraMusic]

@nicolashrv Ebay is your fair price comparison point of reference? I rest my case.

[nicolashrv]

@MithraMusic you are always resting...even before make your case.

The truth is without promotions and before Diamond Ed, those where the prices.

Its your fault for come out all confident without knowing the facts

[MithraMusic]

I'm the only one of us actually USING facts. Without promotions, the price hasn't been that high for ten months now. You made your comment one month ago without bothering to check the MSRP of EITHER library.

[linkalvarado]

well, there's no comparision with edirol & hollywood, because hw strings it's relatively new and edirol has it's years on the market, but hell it's still amazing, i think it was one of the best plugins that i've ever heard and used.

[TridentMusicServices]

Hi, Edirol is awesome!!! But now you have indeed made me look up at Hollywood strings!!!!

I need to know how you switched instruments in Edirol.. Using Flstudio????

[TridentMusicServices]

Hi, Edirol is awesome!!! But now you have indeed made me look up at Hollywood strings!!!!

I need to know how you switched instruments in Edirol.. Using Flstudio????

[Virtuon777]

Sometimes Edirol sounds nicer.

[AlexPlaysGames]

The fact you're comparing a high end product like HS to something as tacky as Edirol Orchestral is ludicrous.

[cossheisnmzenna]

Yeah Edirol has decent sounds for some instruments, especially the oboe, and clarinet, but all the strings I think aren't that good

[justinlelk94]

awesome piece !

does Thomas Bergersen compose this ??

[gilbertosantamaria]

you write the midi file? thank you.

[gilbertosantamaria]

you write the midi file?



[theiammike123]

the reason i did this (by the way, i'm akidar104 in my 2nd channel (theiammike123)is because i like the song and the music of the software.

[theiammike123]

Check out my second channel theiammike123.

[FruityMusican]

haha thats a joke or? you are really comparing hollywood strings with edirol ? haha

[desiguy118]

You cant even compare HollyWood strings with Edirol, if you want to sent a comparision it should be Vienna Strings and HollywoodStrings....

If you could do it i'll be so glad,i use sliver Strings though,and Hollywood is great...

[HEMPHILL84]

im gonna throw up man strings sick

[Jokhaen]

1. HS Sound-Quality is much better than Edirol

2. Maybe u can fool a normal person, but u will never fool a producer

3. Some of the notes u played was wrong and the mastering is not good enough... but at all u did it very nice... respect...

4. U cannot imagine how much work is behind the Demo at beginning.. if u would see the project ur eyes would fall out xD

U can master the Edirol sound as good as possible... but it will never sounds like EWQPHS sryy :D---- this was not a bad comment... ;D

[lejmer23]

@Jokhaen To an experienced programmer, using HS, the demo in the beginning wouldn't take much work. Have you used HS? If you know how strings work live, and if you have a computer powerful enough, you won't need much time to make it sound this realistic. HS is imo the best String library there is, sound- and realismwise. I prefer other libraries when composing tho', as I don't have SSD drives yet. But when I render the track, I spend an hour programming with HS, and it sounds amazing.

[simonepapi]

For my ears HS killed Edirol...

[remixg2k]

edirol orchestral is a lot more work to make it sound as real when hollywood strings have a more natural playing ability in my personal view

[ossyni]

mega hyper brutal beauty :)

[MartinGilmour]

The big difference is not the sound, but thats HS adds an organic element to the work, making it sound alive, as it is with an orchestra.... The transitions with Edirol suck ;)

But nice work

[chasseurdechasseur57]

HS from Eastwest is more realist, fascinating, and Edirol more soft and linear ( listen to headphone of quality)

That's depends felt of people

[TinManSixtySix]

HS is the deal.

[TomMestFan]

its not worth 1500 but its fucking good.

[dsbarf]

@TomMestFan

If i had the money i would find it worth it - if only i could earn some money with it again :P

[lilnemo7]

Reminds me of Fabel...

Well Done

[miguelriveraibanez]

HS is just amazing man!!!! Edirol is good too but HS sounds so real!!!! Shame is too expensive, considering it's just strings. If u want the whole orchestra, well, u need to spend a lot!!!!

[lejmer23]

@miguelriveraibanez Imagine what they spent making it ;)

[jbobusmaximus]

how do u use multiple insturments simotaneously in edirol and fl?please get back to me im new with edirol :P

[Victorite]

@jbobusmaximus You have to use a MIDI mapper to use more than one instrument. Choose a number in the "port" in the midi mapper and use that same number for edirol. For different instruments, just change the channel number on the midi mapper, while using the same port. i hope this helps haha

[TroutmanRoger]

where i can find the midi file ? the sound is the demo song of EWQL HL, sorry for my bad english i'm french

[dysfunctionz]

...sorry, but as someone who played violin for many years, Edirol's inferiority is instantly noticeable. The legatos are better than I expected, but the dynamics sound quite fake, as it's just volume adjustments with no change in timbre, and the lack of bow-change is glaring.

[G36n]

@dysfunctionz

Of course Hollywood is better...but

Edirol is 288 MB.

Hollywood is 310 GB unpacked!

So its pretty darn good for its size.

[ransisua]

I would take the 50 GB version. Sounds already good to me.

[RCAMPOMAS]

@G36n In other words, still the size of an average HDD for Hollywood only... Certainly it is still better than enough for Edirol then...

[MindOfCreativity]

@G36n I don't care, I would buy a 1 TB drive for it, it sounds SO good!

[zmallic]

@MindOfCreativity man u must be one of those crazy rich guyz 

[MindOfCreativity]

@zmallic Nope.

I use ... Torrents =)

[BtrayinMF]

@dysfunctionz thank you i dont know why he keeps making these videos comparing those garbage ass strings

[fnub]

@dysfunctionz No matter how good something is, there's always someone who'll come along and bash it. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy the music or fuck off, yes...?

[barzoman2]

Edirol gave that nice sounding long time ago east west should sounds much better than what it is

my hand go to edirol just because of how it sound how much it cost how much cpu usage and not very far sounding from the great Eastwest + much cheaper in price

[MrDagunov]

I love Hollywood strings use Edirol but tomorrow will buy 'Hollywood strings!! you tell me if this video is the Gold Edition? I ordered the gold edition:)please answer!

ty

[djroddking]

Awesome composition, For me the hollywood strings sound more real than the orchestral, the difference is not much, but it sound mor vivid!!

[abbasalikhan]

Great Composition akidar, while listening to the HS version first i was thinking how bad edirol will sound but hey actually it did not sound bad at all its just that the accent of playing was better in HS because of the great articulations, not to forget the richer sound with HS, but if we do a price and the size comparison edirol isnt bad at all. also my friend you have really proved that its always the man behind the machine :) great work

[JamesRoneyMusic]

This video demo goes to show you that once you get the attack, sustain, retain and decay times set correctly you can make some very convincing work. However, 98% of the time most programmers rarely ever get it right, thus, you can tell that it was computer generated. The big give away is programmers forget to put in change of direction as violin bows are only so long. In this demo there is a bad blooper/inflection found in the harpsichord which reveals this is a computer generated piece.

[DListComposer]

As a professional I can tell a big difference. The scale is definitely tipped in favor of EW-HS. Much more detailed samples and better control of the enveloping - especially the release decays. Now the real question is Hollywood Strings, or LA Scoring Strings.

[JamesRoneyMusic]

@DListComposer ... yes you are right. Simply said the human factor is missing in that the human nuances are missing, rather they are exactly the same throughout of which real musicians are not capable of. Not to mention the blooper found in the inflection of the harpsichord gives it away. Hollywood Strings this is not, as true Hollywood strings are astounding of which this demo falls short on. Still, this was a nice treat to listen too.

[C4R105M45TER]

Hey man good job, but Hollywood Strings and EWQLSO have no comparison with other libraries, I know people love other packages but these East West products actually have no comparison.

You can perform in a keyboard or sequence a MIDI, indeed a very bad performance, then using whatever instrument of HS or EWQLSO It's going to sound awesome realistic. With others libraries you have to score carefully to reach a natural sound and good level of realism.

[JamesRoneyMusic]

@C4R105M45TER ... if the programmer does does not tie his notes together correctly, then all the other work goes down the drain. I have found that no matter how wonderful a string program might be, the writer/programmer must not violate the law of each given instrument. There are 7 basic program laws of which five of them have a value of 1 though 127, of which must all be precisely set and precisely mixed with the proper abeyance and warmth to achieve absolute realism.

[DListComposer]

@JamesRoneyMusic Interesting idea trying to apply some sort of laws. I think knowing how to apply which tools when is the difference between the amateur and professional. If one does not understand the nuances between playing techniques of each instrument then of course the result will be "hoaky." This is why I believe it imperative to have skills working with equipment to play it in live and give a performance rather than plopping midi events in to a program.

[datisookzo]

@C4R105M45TER , i have pretty much all the libraries there are and i have to disagree.. , i own almost all string libraries and sometimes i use this and then i use the other. In the old days i was pretty good with the sonic implants and the miroslavs. It's just how you use it, i would be pretty bored if i could only use the BIG HW strings, every track would sound the same... try the LASS and VSL together with the HWs and mix em together, solo strings and multi's .. just great

[Edbrad]

@C4R105M45TER

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I agree with you about HS maybe, but not QLSO, thats out of date now.

[deekaysk]

Great stuff man, I´m looking for a nice set of artificial orchestra right now and this is a excelent of these two.

And also, very nice to see a FL studio mate, that doesn´t only do stupid soulles techno and proves, that its a not only a DJ software (as many think). ;) cheers mate

[thefangpage]

great stuff mate!:) i think the flow of holywood strings is alot smoother! but u did it very well must i say! check some of my stuff out!:)

[pianokid100]

id actually like a fair comparison . The Hollywood Strings has more "presence" meaning it has a more spatial feel but that can be do o panning, and reverbs etc. i would like to hear the edirol version with a good mix to really see . good job though