Krishna is the worst guy ever, he was the real "kayar", always stabbed everyone from the back and destroyed an entire family by killing everyone not morally, but illegally. Only serves him right to be shot in the feet by a hunter followed by the subsequent destruction of the Yadavas as per Gandhari's shaap.
@deadman1061 very well mentioned my friend. karma is more important than janma. but in modern india we people emphasis more on janma and completely ignore the concept of karma and that is big shame, hope one day we can digest this beautiful truth of karma.
@feludaify :Absolutely true . Absolute Truth will exist against all odds. Lord Krishna is the absolute truth . Intelligence will remain against all odds.
BR Chopra's Mahabharatha is a Classic on the Celluloid.Its allround excellence is poignant and beautiful.Chopras extracted the best from all the new actors or relatively unknown Actors till then.
Karna was a demon by name sahasrakavach. Nar and Narayan had taken 999 births to remove each of his kavachas and this birth during Mahabharatha was his last birth as a demon. And because he was born in the sacred womb of Mother Kunthi he inherited some good qualities and nothing more. Moreover, The Sage Thrikalagna - Bhagwan Veda VYasa classified 4 people into dushtachathushtaya - duryodhan, dushasan, karna and shakuni and I would take His words for truth.
@solusindica89 galat bol rahe ho bhai karna kunti ki sacred womb ki wajah se mahan nahi tha wo sachmuch me ek mahan yodha tha. usse mahan yodha is sansar me aur kio na tha aur ye khud bhagwan krishna ne kaha tha jo narayan ke avtaar the.
in life nobody cared about karna, but in death the greatest warriors in the world were fighting over who got the honour of cremating him. karna was finally given the respect he craved for. his story is such an inspiration to all who feel their troubles are too much to bear.
@sharadgenius No, the whole point is that you cannot have different yardsticks to measure different people. Because somebody participated in killing Abhimanyu wrongly, so he is a adharmi and the people from the other side are abcolved You called Karna adharmi and crap of society becuase he participated in killing Abhimanyu. So going by the same token what about Pandavas and yes Lord Krishna?
No I dont agree with you. I condemn his acts, Dharma is above all and justice is complete truth. theres no one in world who appreciates Danvir karna better than me. hes son of SUN, and can single handedly kill all pandavs, But for calling draupdi a Hoar and provoking droydhana for removing clothes of her, killing innocent abhimanyu in 7 to 1 combat,You dont understand meaning of geeta preachings yet, what Krishna told arjuna , just go and watch geeta again!!!. Society will get what they make..
@sharadgenius As far as Draupadi's insult is concerned, this is shown in BRC's Mahabharata. In Mrityunjaya, it was other way round. Draupadi went to all asking for help except Karna because she could not go to him as she has insulted him throughout her life. And Karna had sword half pulled out waiting for Draupadi to come to him. So, based on BRC's Mahabharata you cannot simply say that. Krishna also made Pandavas kill Drona by telling lies and Bhishma by breaking rules of war. he also adharmi?
@sharadgenius karna ne adharm kiya tha kunti ki insult ki thi use uski saza mili per kunti ne bhi to karna ki insult ki thi uski saza kya use mili .usiki vajah se mahabharat hua duryodhan ki insult karke usi ne bhadkaya tha duryodhan .duryodhanka badla bura mante ho aur mahabharat karvake kunti ne jo kiya vo sab bhala tha kyu
@dreamboybful mahabharat kunti ne nahi karvaya balki yeh dhrithrastra ki inability thi ki woh iss yudh ko rok nahi paya woh chahta toh jua ka jo khel hua tha hastinapur rajsabha mein usse rok sakta tha lekin usne aisa kiya nahi
@dreamboybful agar hum shuruat se dekhe toh dhrithrastra apne chote bhai pandu jo pandavon ke father the unse jalta tha kyunki dhrithrastra aandha tha aur pandu unse chota tha phir bhi usse hastinapur ka samrat bana diya gaya yehi se mahabharat ke yudh ki neev tayyar hui
@dreamboybful karna ne koi adharm nahi kiya usne bas duryodhan ka saath diya kyunki duryodhan ne use raja banaya tha karna se mahaan mahabharat mein aur koi nahi tha usse yudh shuru hone se pehle hi pata tha ki iss dharma yudh mein pandvo ki vijay hogi aur woh apne pran tyagne ke liye tayyar tha
Its justified the way Karna is killed like an Hapless animal. He deserved punishment for insulting a sati like Draupadi.. Secondly he was prime culprit behind great Abhimanyus killing. God so brutually killed was that great innocent lad..8-10 fuckers couldnt single handedly control the boy. So they rushed altogether...bullshit!!! I dont have any issues Krishna punishing such adharmi and craps of soceity..
@sharadgenius adharmi and craps of society.....seriously???? for the person who could have killed all the pandavas but spared their life. Karna could have been the king of entire Hastinapur including Indraprastha if he would have accepted Krishna's or Kunti's invitation but decided against it to follow his dharma. To you I can only say read "Mrityunjaya". Karna was probably the most righteous man in the entire Mahabharat better than Bhishma, Drona or anyone else.
just winning not matters .......u have potential of it..........corav loose but their potential was much then pandavs ....eliminate ''lord krishna'' n the corav become looser..........its just succes of krishna
What crap is this .. first everyone insults in front of every elders and everyone of the family the daughter in law, stripping her and calling her whore ... and evry1 is silent ... infact enjoying the scene .... and then everyone is fighting and killing each other deceitfully .... the whole epic teaches you all the non sense ... caste system, gambling and then putting you own wife on stake, and stripping your sister in law, cheating ... what a shame. I m ashamed all these happened in India once
@intdx : Intdx I am glad to see that you did get some learnings out of this. So yes these things did happen , but then thats the whole point of the whole story.. Did you pay attention to the "Learnings" one gets out of this .. because thats the whole point. Did you learn anything from Gita - That also came out of it. Its like when u churn th eocean - you get Amrit and Poison both. Such is life - we get good and bad in life - The Question is Which side you are on ..
Duryodhan is sure a great warrior in mind ! lest he would not dare this whole happen ! Duryodhan more friend to Karna as much as Karna was to him ! And it is not ethical when Pandavs wanted their rights on Karna's ceremony !! Epic of complex emotions Mahabharat.. ! which culture in this world can ever come with these emotions even in millions of years ?
Dear Blessed Soul, Please listen to Yatharth Geeta OR Bhagavad Gita, never has Bhagavad Gita been explained so clearly and in so much in depth. It is hence called "Yatharthgeeta, you can download the mp3 of your choice of language from the website yatharthgeeta. com OR search for 'yatharthgeeta' right here on youtube OR go to youtube. com/user/foryatharthgeeta to get a quick preview. God Bless You!
Nothing has changed in the "World of Politics" than that of the days of "Mahabharata" . All the lessons are still the same only the techniques has been renamed.
Karna!! Oh dear! He was born with bad fortune! First of, though a royal blood, he always lived meagerly; went to many gurus, but only got curses rather than blessings/teachings; nobody ever accepted him in the society, so had to join the Kauravas; and on the battle when he never had any good life, he suffered a pity death! ;-( So sad!!!
People are missing a few points in all the arguing here. First of all, all of the characters in Mahabharat had both good and bad traits. This applies to everyone including Duryodhan. And yes, even Krishna had some bad traits. Hence his warning to only follow what he says, not what he does.
Second of all, Krishna is responsible for all the death in the war. But he wanted it to happen, so he could end a Yuga and with his death, start the Kali Yuga. It is all part of his plan, from the beginning.
Hi everyone according to my point of view i think God Krishna have done for all of us so we can understand the right or wrong about life...each veer death teach us some thing , friendship, dharm , truth , mother , way .. etc so in short they have died for us thousand and thosand. we should respect their deed atleast we should walk in right way i believe ... i try myself sometime ... thanks
I LIKE UR SCIENTIFIC VIEW BUT ONE THING U MUST UNDERSTAND IS THAT IT IS AN EPIC WHICH DO HAVE SOME HISTORICAL SENSE IN IT. IT HAS BEEN THE HABIT OF THE WRITERS FROM THE TIME IMMORTAL TO PROVIDE DIVINITY TO THE CHARACTERS OF GREAT MEN.....KRISHNA,KARNA ALL WERE GREAT BUT THEY WERE NOT DIVINE........TO GLORIFY THEIR CHARACTERS THEY WERE PRESENTED AS GODS.2ND IT IS A HUGE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE PEOPLE DID EXIST AS THE CITIES LIKE HASTINAPUR MAGADHA HAVE BEEN UNEARTHED BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS
This clearly shows that KARMA was given more importance than JANMA in the caste system by Lord Krishna. You can see that during the last rites of Karna, he supported Duryodhan rather than Pandavs. In fact, Karna was one of the Pandavs, yet Lord Krishna believed that Duryodhan should have last rites because Karna was with Duryodhan all his life. According to JANMA, Pandavs can claim his final rites but according to KARMA, he was Duryodhan's friend and so it was. ITS ALL PRECISE...PPL SHUD SEE!!
also..that Krishna knew abt Kunti...but nvr disrespected her...it shws dat both men nd wmn can make mistakes in life....but wmn shd nt b disrespected 4 their mistakes...
Karna and Abhimanyu were the two guys who gave a fair fight in the war. The way Pandava's used the Abhimanyu's death to justify all the cheating they did - don't give me a feeling that they where on DHARMA side and also make me think that Krishna and Pandava's used Abhimanyu. Just because Krishna was in their side doesn't mean that they were right. And over it, Krishna provoked and misdirected them to do cheating by putting it under cover of DHARMA. Not accepted for a God.
u need to look beyond the war, both forwards and backwards.in the scientific sense, krishna represents the ultimate. that is nature. the basic meaning is, if all events happen for the reason they did, then natural rules will bend in favour of the ones with purer karmic actions. even after being a strong side, it is the past karmas that created the situations for kauravas in the war. Krishna was perfectly right everywhere. it is deep and conceptual.
@hsnse I guess it either fault of the director which made me think like this or I got involved with d story line. But yeah, who knows Duryodhana could have been a better king if he wouldn't have had faced trouble from Pandavas. He was definitely courteous, and upto some extent followed certain rule, which Pandavas dint. And kept crying foul over Abhimanyu without seeing how much damage they r doing. Anyways history always writes good about winner. So its Duryodhan who was bad guy in the end. :-)
then either that youngest brother took part in the war when he was an infant or he grew up to be around 17 to take part in it .that implies ki duryodhan was around 117 at that time and gaandhari was .....don' know......133 yrs ol' .ab bole to ancient times mein menopause to hota hi nahi tha.aur adhed umar ke bande hilte hue hathoon mein walking stick liye ladaiyan ladte the.and wat say "dhritrashtra".a real potent guy.bande ki ankhein nahi thi lekin fir bhi 101.din raat bus ek hi kaam.
idhar ke sab gyani logon ko pranam.koi gyani bus ye bata de ki gaandhari ke 100 sons aur 1 daughter .101 children means if gaandhari was 15 at the time of duryodhan's birth.to bole to taking into account ki 1 child per year means she wud have been 116 years ol' when duryodhan's youngest sibling was born.matlab ki duryodhan was around 100 when gandhari gave birth to her last son. i.e now when duryodhan was 100 his youngest brother was a day old.
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@bhasmasur213 lol..haha..good question...acc. to sm ppl, gandhari had given birth to a number of twins, triplets, octoplets...etc..so its not like one child per year..but still..for sm reason in those times, ppl lived a longer life n still were physically able to do things normally.., yaar there are a lot of things in the story that can be confusing..just take it as is , if not believing in God,then for entertainment and for your own life's quest.
what the hell Yudi have done , he curse all the women that they cannot hide secrets....and we are suffering it...by listning them all the time.....lol (no offense all female's...i respect you......i m just kidding)
@jainu123 Bhismapitamah was a yogi and a perfect bhramachari. With Bhramacarya a person gets unimaginable intellect, memory, intuition and super intuition. Bhishma had all that, therefore he knew everything happening in the Mahabharata. Infact he knew the Mahabhrata before it even happened. Plus he had Maharshi ved Vyas and other great seers in his company so it is only natural that he would know.
@chintansatyapanthi1 if he knew he was Kunti putra, and he wanted to stop the Mahabharat, he could have done it then... by telling Doryodhan that Karan is the eldest Pandava...!!! what was stopping him, unlike kunti and krishna?
@jainu123 That's because even if he knew he would have done nothing about it. It's the Divine play of the Lord and it must happen. If the Mahabharata did not happen; teachings meant for people like us in Kaliyug would have been mystery. Therefore it was very important for the Bharata to happen. I have already told you that Bhisma was a perfected Yogi therefore he only played his part according to his position in the preplanned war.
Shakuni, who is the least deserving of any respect, felt insulted by the presence of Karn...what a joke...but that is exactly what is the trend & accepted behavior today...we have more shakunis than Karn. One more thing, I have noticed, that the more wrong you do, the more respected u become. That is so true today too.
what a gr8 man karna was! he had all the qualities those 5 pandavas possesed n above that he was "danveer".he was the tragic hero of mahabharat whom everyone who read or watch mahabharat cant hate him.definitely he was better warrior than arjun.even krishna had acknowledged that if u read the original mahabharat.having such gr8 qualities he was leading a miserable life.one who loves karna shudnt debate the way he was killed coz death was his only solution t
for the draupadi insult, all those 'veer' who kept quite also needs punishment.. they all got it except that blind foolish king.. bhim should have crushed his skull too with his mace
@kathzyna killing abhimanyu along with all the other kauravas by surrounding him is heroism. Karna deserves the death that he got. He might be a good doner, but as far as heroic goes, Arjun is next after Krishna.
@sutharsanravi i am not questioning krishna's decisions. he is supreme . but a warrior who cannot win fair and square cannot be treated as a hero. krishna is the supreme hero followed by bhisme karna and drona
@kathzyna YES I AGREE NOW KARNA WAS GEATEST HERO AFTER KRISHNA.. IT SUPPOSE TO BE ARJUN BUT FEW KRISHNA'S DECISION LET HIM DOWN LIKE KILLED KARNA WEN HE WASN'T EVEN READY!
This is because when an article gets published in a course book, it is deeply concerned by a penal bcoz millions of students are going to read it. Other reason for mentioning this particular chapter is that every point of injustice done by pandavas is analyzed honestly and unpartially.
i think uv studied the mahabharat alot but totally failed to understand the underlying morals..
god forgives alot..but wen u croos the final line then he punishes you without caring if his WAY of punishment is just or not.N dat is wot is being said throughout the war "dharamyudh" . Secondly throughout the mahabharat ITHIHAAS and BHAVISHYA are always being thought of..wot will be said about them..This is why krishanji makes arjun do all that "KAPAT"
.Its is not analyzed honestly ...its been made very clear that..the kauravas have crossed every line ..every limit that was possible..n u fergave him..now dont!!
@arjunwhorra But the people see what they want to see, & tha depends to a large extent, that they will deny everything that points an accusing finger at them. So they acknowledge, explain, justify & oppose whatever depending on whatever can save them the admonition from their own conscience.
@kmg4 You are really funny. So you think shraap & fatwas are the same thing? And have you seen a common theme in all the shraaps? there is a common theme. Not every one can give shraap. You choose not to make the connection.
@aparaajita10 Both Yudishthira and Gandhari can give shraaps. I know Bheem cannot, so it appears that anyone with an IQ above 100 is qualified to give shraaps.
Shraaps are like lawsuits today - anyone can sue anyone.
@kmg4 so u are e thinker with a iq>100. thereby qualifying to give shraap/. Go give shraap & get off the airwaves. You are polluting them with your presence.
@kmg4 everyone can think only within his or her own constraints & limitations. Though I am unable to understand you comment, comparing shraap to a law suit, may be because my IQ is not 100, Where are the lawyers who usuaslly argue the defense & the attack?
Pandavas and Krishna were the greatest cowards of human history. History will never forgive you. For my dear friends who are strongly believing that Krishna and Pandavas were real Dharmatma's, study plz study "Mahabharat ki aakhiri Saanzh"(The last evening of Mahabharat) of 9th standard Hindi book (NCERT).
dude do u even know what ur talking about.... "Mahabharath Ki Antim Saanjh"??....seriously??....i mean its just a freaking story....ur telling every1 to read it as if it was written by some1 who saw the Mahabharat war himself....its just an opinion presented by an author,might be a good chapter for all you know
May be thats your problem....u read that chapter without knowing the entire story of Mahabharat yourself....so you accepted the opinion of the author as the sole truth
And you are the biggest fucking moron.Several times I defined the injustice part of Pandvas and you were not able to understand that.Remember that clap doesn't happens with a single hand. And about Karan's son killing which I mentioned earlier his one son (I didn't talked about all the 9 sons).
and in your own words "clap does not happen with one hand"....so after the swayamvar both parties attacked each other when they found out that the man who won was Arjun....so somebody got killed,there was no cheating
moreover one son of Karna survived....Vrishaketu....after the war Arjun took care of him like his own son
"Pandava's and Krishna were greatest cowards"??....not at all!!!!
"History will never forgive you".....History didnot forgive them....all the Pandava's (Except Yudhishthir) were sent to hell for the crime of "Kul Hatya"....while Duryodhan after being brutally killed by Bheem ascended straight to heaven and saw Karn already sitting there
Krishn was cursed by Gandhari and due to that his entire family (the Yaduvansh) was destroyed,and his Empire, Dwarka Nagri,got submerged into the ocean
Hi Dear,apni kah chuke ab hamari bhi suno. I replied late because my exams were going on and I was not able to reply earlier. First of all I would like to tell you that I have read more text on mahabharat that you even can't imagine. Have you read the real Mahabharat holy book? Have you read "Parth se kaho chadhaye Baan"? Have you read Mrityunjya? Have you read Asli Mahabharat? If ever you read these books than never dare to say my views just a freaking story.
"Parth se kaho chadhaye baan" was written by Pannalal Patel in the year 1993....even the serial is older than that
Mrityunjay is written by Shivaji Sawant somewhere in 70's....vkli07 is right,ur not only immature but also a retard....u think all these books written in the modern era,20th century are more reliable than the original book
and yes i have read the book mahabharat in sanskrit
a b4 making outrageous comments make sure ur sources are right
I think you are the biggest moron I have ever met who can't judje between justice and injustice. Tell me Who have the control on birth whether he takes birth in a Shudra family or a Kshatriya family? Karan was insulted many times on his caste by Draupdi and pandvas. Now I think you will also support the biggest disease of Society: Castism because you are a supporter of pandvas. And about My sources think before raising a finger.
ok i'll stop u right there....cuz ur a fuckin moron
first of all i never said im againsy karna....i've been a big fan of his and will always be....look at these episodes carefully....Karna himself tells Bhishma that just like Bhishma cannot leave duryodhan similarly he cannot....which means both know that duryodhan is wrong but they have to be with him
At one side you are saying that all the sons of Karna were died in the battle of Kurukshetra and on another one you are saying that one Arjun took care of one son of Karna. You yourself are so much confused than how the hell you can teach others? So I suggest you Sweetie go and read some more text instead of fighting blindly. And whatever Karna said about Dharam and Adharam reflects his high character and his courtesy to accept own faults but not others. And due to his high morality He will
respectable in every era. And whatever happened to Draupdi was not entire fault of Karna and Suryodhan but others too. Who asked Yudhishthir to bet his wife without even asking his four younger brothers. Draupdi's insult is a big matter for people like you but what about the insult of Karna and Suryodhan? What about the Murder of Karan's innocent brother and son? Surely in Draupdi's Swayamwar Karan would have killed Arjun if he had not left the court immediately after killing his innocent son.
wow..... you even know, how much i read Mahabharat. That is something i have seen in the Mahabharata, like rishis knowing without event someone telling or diya drishiti.LOl..
So you judge the "knowing more Mahabharata than me" factor to "writing more comments"? Well, ok. If that can make you happey, I dont have any problem with that. gg. ;)
and "Mrityunjay" is a story about Karn....it talks about his life and his bravery,and many aspects of his life that the common man does not know about....it does not,anywhere,say that Krishna was a coward or Pandavas were cowards
u think u can just name random books to prove that ur right and ppl in this post will get shit scared....well you got the wrong guy!!
You are right. I meet with the wrong guy. But you have met the right guy with the right thinking. It is also not mentioned anywhere that Kaurvas or Karan was coward. It was the Karan's mercy and his high ideology of obeying laws that he didn't killed arjun because of sunset (see episode 89).Because of that Jeevandaan that traitor and coward arjun was able to kill Maharathi Karan otherwise he would have fucked him.
One more thing, everybody blames that Karan was involved in Abhimanyu's death but for those people I have a question. How many of you know that arjun killed Karan's innocent son (In Draupdi Sawayamwar)? How many of you know that arjun killed his innocent brother (in virat yudh, Proof: Mahabharat holy book). What about the poison of castism that Karan was forced to drink every time even it was not his fault that he was a Shudra?
and now u've started to piss me off....if u cant talk rationally then shut ur fuckin hole....when did i ever say that karn was a coward
and again please mention ur reference....Karna had 9 sons and all of them were killed during war,and killed fairly in 1 on 1 battle....and u've been reading stupid books kid
and u better bot try to dump that casteism shit on me.....cuz i never said anything even remotely casteic
Fucking nerd,I agreed Duryodhan has done some wrong acts, but who forced him to do this? Surely Dropdi's Poisonous tongue. Remember Clapping doesn't happen with a single hand. You are saying that Stripping down one's wife is a crime but insulting one's father in a court and laughing on his blindness isn't a crime.Insulting somebody in a court just because he is a shudra is right then what to say about you baby??????
thats what i said....draupadi did wrong....she laughed at duryodhan's father,it IS a crime....but she was scolded by kunti and she apologised for that....she called karna a sut putra....agreed
still my friend....stripping a woman in front of a court,calling her a prostitute in front of her husbands....do u think that punishment suits the crime??....and doing that to their own sister in law while she was begging and pleading??
One of the biggest Golden Rule of History: Every Sin of winners is forgiven no matter how big rascal they were, whether it is pandvas or ram. Insulting Draupdi was a big crime but killing of millions of people and owns relatives werent a crime? Whatever wrong pandvas has done that is forgiven but whatever Kurus and Karna had done has never been forgiven because they were losers and died in the battle of Kurukshetra.
@9886643154 Then you have missed the whole point. In Mahabharat, again & again Bhishma Pitamaha, Krshn, Arjun, Yudhishthar, Vidur,all are against the war. It is repeated again & again during the entire course, that the soldiers fighting gain nothing, war is to be avoided at all cost, & that there are no winners in a war. It only causes death, destruction, pain & suffering of unimaginable magnitude.
@aparaajita10 I think you have missed the whole point,draupdi's poisonous tongue,insult of Suryodhan and Karan,killing of Karna's innocent sons by arjun etc.These incidents also led to the war.I agree that some people like Bhishma,Gandhari,Vidur were against the war but they were not able to stop the war.
@9886643154 I get your point, you mean, just like the terrorist attacks on the world today by the muslims are okay, & the muslims should be considered heroes, they attacked because they are "insulted" a la insult od you suryodhan. BTW, who is suryodhan, can you shed some light, scholar?
@aparaajita10 Thanx for calling me scholar.Mahaveer the greatest mace fighter whom you known as Duryodhan,his real name was Suryodhan.Once again you are considering one side fact of Muslims,but not the bloody game played by Americans and Britishers in Iraq,Vietnam,Afganistan and India?What to say about you kid???LOL
@9886643154 I did not mention bloody game played by Americans and Britishers in Iraq,Vietnam,Afganistan and India because of constraints of # of characters used. They aren't much different. And they aren't any less fanatics either. They not only wage wars, but fund the mercenaries too under the label of missionaries
moreover....Karn himself said to Keshav "i can face the entire Pandav army but one person i cannot face is that Sati,who i humiliated in front of the court....i dont know what happened to me that day....im ashamed and im not worthy of forgiveness"
he was a gr8 man....he just went astray due to his love for his friend....i was never against Karna....for me he is the biggest hero of the story,followed by Bhishm
You are talking about the sources who were published in 70's and 90's but forget that Mahabharat is a 5000 years old story and it will remain the same in every century.
oops man!!!! u look absolutely immatured guy ....very childish talk...u have then spoiled all the intentions of this serial.. did u see all the episodes of this serial..did u listen to bhagavadgita in eposodes 71-75.....this war not about cowards or brave people....it is about justice and injustice..if u say this then what about duryodhan and kauravas....lakshagruha, the game of dice, draupadis disrobe and abhimanyus killing? What about all these...
I have seen 3 times this serial and for your information if killing somebody's innocent son and brother (of Karan) is right and insulting somebody's father on his blindness is right then what to say about you? Also judge the whole incident on practical aspect and not on emotional aspect.
what the hell do u mean "innocent"....they were in a war and they were killed fairly in one on one battle....they were martyr's
Abhimanyu was killed by 7 people....which was against the rules of war
Draupadi did wrong by insulting Duryodhan's father's blindness....agreed....but the punishment shud suit the crime....u think stripping one's own older sister in law in front of a court and her husbands is fair??....well what to say about you??
and again if kauravas did it it is right? If pandavas did any thing it is wrong.....? U should see krishnas dialgoues before dronacharyas vadh.....TO KILL A PERSON WHO IS ON THE SIDE OF ADHARMA, DOOING ADHARMA IS NOT WRONG..ABSOLUTLEY THE POLICY OF TIT FOR TAT..
if u dont like the serial please leave it there my friend..but please do not misguide people like this..sorry to say these, but ur comment deserves this answer
I have also one more doubt....like is this person 9896468766 was duryodhan in his previous birth and born now? Because none other than duryodhan can say the words that "Krishna and pandavas are the cowards in history"?
Dude, are u one of the kauravas in your previous birth. It is not about who is a greate warrior or who is not. In that case, no body except karna and ekalavya can match Arjun and bhima in strength in those times. No body can match with yudhistir in dharma and nakula and sahadeva in sword fights respectiviely. And ofcourse Lord Krishna is the supreme god and no one can even dream to match with him. Now regarding cowards and brave people, the question of mahabharata is all about dharma and adharma
And also it is about the war between justice and injustice. when you are on the side of dharma and justice, god will be with you(krishna) and you will win in such a war. Killing a villian with treachery is also dharma and justice. Because if people like duryodhana were there, and if mahabharata actually happened, today there would have been no respect for woman, and the laws would have been formulated that disrobing a lady in public is not at all wrong, u can do treachery to kill people and it
You can easily notice the conspiracy of Lakshagrah,Abhimanyu and Draupdi's Vastraharan but what about the killing of Karan's innocent brother and son? What about the insult done to Karan and Suryodhan? As Suryodhan said in the 92nd episode "Ankahe pita ki 5 santaane", that clearly reflects pandvas were not the real sons of Paandu but basterds. Pavan ,indra,dharamraj has fucked kunti and they were born. How the hell they were claiming that they were the real claimers of Hastinapur?
if you want to debate, pls refrain from crude/crass language.. u r forgetting something.. pandavas were not 'power' crazy.. duryodhan was(btw, its suyodhan, not suryodhan).. they were willing to settle for 5 villages. they developed indraprast from scratch.. and ur favorite suyodhan stole that unfairly.. to me bottom line is this: anyone dragging a woman and trying to humilate her like that - deserve to die
And what punishment a person deserves who kills innocent people (like Karan's Son and younger brother)? Suryodhan has invited Krishna to dine with him but he again insulted him by rejecting the invitation. This further raised his anger and that's why he rejected Krishnas proposal of 5 villages. And what to say about pandva's courtesy when they send their messenger to Hastinapur, what kind of language they used (Arjun and Bhim)...
Again I am repeating the same thing Winners only write history
Surely In their favour. And instead of saying my language as crude/crass just put an eye on the comments (on this episode) and decide who started first...
My dear bro, i am very happy to discuss with you and respect your ideas and then defend them if they are against my ideas. but using a filthy languages words in such discussions is not good....i can see that some of your comments has filthy words which are not supposed to be here atleast in such discussions on a great epic like mahabharat
now coming to your point.....firstly the truth is that kunthi did not give birth to the pandavas by having any physichal contact with the gods..it is the mantra of durvasa which she used to get those sons from gods on the request of her husband pandu when he knows that he will die if he touches his wives but he wants to have sons..see the beginning epiosodes of mahabharat 1-10 for this story
now...coming to the karna case....i dont understand who is the brother and son of karna..karna himself is the brother of pandavas which is revealed by kunti after he dies..and now let us come to the point of dividing the kingdom....whatever be the issue whether they are bilogical sons of kunti or not but she gave birth to them through mantra and agreement of pandu..so if everybody agreed on this and only duryodhan is opposing it then it is his view and there is no rule his view has to be agreed
by others...and now after kindgdom is divided and given to pandavas they put their sweat and blood and made it indraprasth...any way it is divided and they brought it to high levels keeping their hardwork..now duryodhan seeing this felt jealous and tried to grab their kingdom through treachery using dice game with the help of sakuni..dont u think he is a dictator or a guy with monarch attitude...if u put ur sweat and blood and somebody takes it by force from you wont it be painful?
and still pandavas and krishna did not attack after the exile ..they first put a peace message to kauravas "ok what ever happened has happened..war will kill many innocent people due to the rival between u 100 sons and we 5 sons....so let us not it happend and give our kingdom back......but duryodhan still did not agree to it..,...becuase of his selfishness and greed ..as he though pandavas could not go against his great kaurava warriors like bheeshma, drona and karna..he undeestimated
krishna and pandavas..had he known that bhesshma and drona and karna will not fight for him, he would never have went for a war...so dont support him blindly..on the other side i say that pandavas also did mistakes like keeping their wife to stake in the game of dice and so yudhistir himself said that this exile is a punishment for me for doing that and i am ready to accept it..mahabharat is all about learning from each character there to know what to do and what not to do...in life ..
karna was not a pandav. why do i see so many people calling him pandav.
he was a KAUNTEYA
qaz010wsx 1 month ago
Can anyone tell me what the curse against female was? I did not understand the words.
1henameless 1 month ago
@1henameless since kunti kept the secret that karna was his son, yudhisthir curses that women will not be able to keep any secret.
mayankbhalotia 2 weeks ago
@1henameless :Women will never be able to hide secrets
truthseeker4720 1 week ago
Why is Shalya sad now, when he was undermining Karna right before he died? He also did not help Karna get his wheel out.
kmg4 1 month ago
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Krishna is the worst guy ever, he was the real "kayar", always stabbed everyone from the back and destroyed an entire family by killing everyone not morally, but illegally. Only serves him right to be shot in the feet by a hunter followed by the subsequent destruction of the Yadavas as per Gandhari's shaap.
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rajbeast 2 months ago
@deadman1061 very well mentioned my friend. karma is more important than janma. but in modern india we people emphasis more on janma and completely ignore the concept of karma and that is big shame, hope one day we can digest this beautiful truth of karma.
rishiroy 2 months ago
People may hate me for this but the potrayal of Krishna seems like he can manipulate the definition of Dharma any time to suit his needs.
feludaify 2 months ago in playlist Mahabharat - Episode 1 to 94 7
@feludaify I agree. Too few Indians even contemplate this question.
kmg4 1 month ago
@feludaify :Absolutely true . Absolute Truth will exist against all odds. Lord Krishna is the absolute truth . Intelligence will remain against all odds.
truthseeker4720 1 week ago
u could be the greatest soul ,but if on the path of adhram or supportive of adharmis,
u have to face the music ,even the the Lord will not save u,,positive or negative karm ,,they all bear fruit , sweet or sour,, law of the universe.
BABAMUGHALBABASAHEB 6 months ago
BR Chopra's Mahabharatha is a Classic on the Celluloid.Its allround excellence is poignant and beautiful.Chopras extracted the best from all the new actors or relatively unknown Actors till then.
Karavadi100 6 months ago in playlist Dr. B. R. Chopra's Mahabharat 2
Karna was a demon by name sahasrakavach. Nar and Narayan had taken 999 births to remove each of his kavachas and this birth during Mahabharatha was his last birth as a demon. And because he was born in the sacred womb of Mother Kunthi he inherited some good qualities and nothing more. Moreover, The Sage Thrikalagna - Bhagwan Veda VYasa classified 4 people into dushtachathushtaya - duryodhan, dushasan, karna and shakuni and I would take His words for truth.
solusindica89 7 months ago
@solusindica89 tell me the source where u read all this
007dalal 7 months ago
@solusindica89 galat bol rahe ho bhai karna kunti ki sacred womb ki wajah se mahan nahi tha wo sachmuch me ek mahan yodha tha. usse mahan yodha is sansar me aur kio na tha aur ye khud bhagwan krishna ne kaha tha jo narayan ke avtaar the.
adarsh2306 6 months ago
haan ye to hai dost, suryaputra karna kafi badkismat the:)
sharadgenius 8 months ago
in life nobody cared about karna, but in death the greatest warriors in the world were fighting over who got the honour of cremating him. karna was finally given the respect he craved for. his story is such an inspiration to all who feel their troubles are too much to bear.
adityaakaul 8 months ago
Cool, ...Now Bhagwan Krishna is Adharmi,
har tarah ke log hotein hain, u hv to accept the fact...
Its india after all, i agree!!
sharadgenius 8 months ago
@sharadgenius No, the whole point is that you cannot have different yardsticks to measure different people. Because somebody participated in killing Abhimanyu wrongly, so he is a adharmi and the people from the other side are abcolved You called Karna adharmi and crap of society becuase he participated in killing Abhimanyu. So going by the same token what about Pandavas and yes Lord Krishna?
km271984 8 months ago
@sharadgenius har tarah ke log to hate hain per bhgwan aur logon mein difference hona chahiye karna ko hameshha bina baat ke saja mili
dreamboybful 8 months ago
No I dont agree with you. I condemn his acts, Dharma is above all and justice is complete truth. theres no one in world who appreciates Danvir karna better than me. hes son of SUN, and can single handedly kill all pandavs, But for calling draupdi a Hoar and provoking droydhana for removing clothes of her, killing innocent abhimanyu in 7 to 1 combat,You dont understand meaning of geeta preachings yet, what Krishna told arjuna , just go and watch geeta again!!!. Society will get what they make..
sharadgenius 8 months ago
@sharadgenius As far as Draupadi's insult is concerned, this is shown in BRC's Mahabharata. In Mrityunjaya, it was other way round. Draupadi went to all asking for help except Karna because she could not go to him as she has insulted him throughout her life. And Karna had sword half pulled out waiting for Draupadi to come to him. So, based on BRC's Mahabharata you cannot simply say that. Krishna also made Pandavas kill Drona by telling lies and Bhishma by breaking rules of war. he also adharmi?
km271984 8 months ago
@sharadgenius karna ne adharm kiya tha kunti ki insult ki thi use uski saza mili per kunti ne bhi to karna ki insult ki thi uski saza kya use mili .usiki vajah se mahabharat hua duryodhan ki insult karke usi ne bhadkaya tha duryodhan .duryodhanka badla bura mante ho aur mahabharat karvake kunti ne jo kiya vo sab bhala tha kyu
dreamboybful 8 months ago
@dreamboybful not Kunti draupadi
007dalal 7 months ago
@dreamboybful mahabharat kunti ne nahi karvaya balki yeh dhrithrastra ki inability thi ki woh iss yudh ko rok nahi paya woh chahta toh jua ka jo khel hua tha hastinapur rajsabha mein usse rok sakta tha lekin usne aisa kiya nahi
prm67ify1 6 months ago
@dreamboybful agar hum shuruat se dekhe toh dhrithrastra apne chote bhai pandu jo pandavon ke father the unse jalta tha kyunki dhrithrastra aandha tha aur pandu unse chota tha phir bhi usse hastinapur ka samrat bana diya gaya yehi se mahabharat ke yudh ki neev tayyar hui
prm67ify1 6 months ago
@dreamboybful karna ne koi adharm nahi kiya usne bas duryodhan ka saath diya kyunki duryodhan ne use raja banaya tha karna se mahaan mahabharat mein aur koi nahi tha usse yudh shuru hone se pehle hi pata tha ki iss dharma yudh mein pandvo ki vijay hogi aur woh apne pran tyagne ke liye tayyar tha
prm67ify1 6 months ago
Its justified the way Karna is killed like an Hapless animal. He deserved punishment for insulting a sati like Draupadi.. Secondly he was prime culprit behind great Abhimanyus killing. God so brutually killed was that great innocent lad..8-10 fuckers couldnt single handedly control the boy. So they rushed altogether...bullshit!!! I dont have any issues Krishna punishing such adharmi and craps of soceity..
sharadgenius 9 months ago
@sharadgenius get a life dude ...
SHIVAJI99 9 months ago
@sharadgenius u r wrong.Draupadi was not that sati. I never heard she is mentioned a sati..
007dalal 8 months ago
@sharadgenius adharmi and craps of society.....seriously???? for the person who could have killed all the pandavas but spared their life. Karna could have been the king of entire Hastinapur including Indraprastha if he would have accepted Krishna's or Kunti's invitation but decided against it to follow his dharma. To you I can only say read "Mrityunjaya". Karna was probably the most righteous man in the entire Mahabharat better than Bhishma, Drona or anyone else.
km271984 8 months ago
@km271984 Hold on a sec here, how is Karna the most righteous man, if he also killed Arjuna's son unrightfully, and also called Draupadi a whore?
Subaru537 5 months ago
How about his back?? when he falls down??? triceps?? skin under his hair??
ajoshi06 9 months ago
shakuni's acting grt in this episode too....
talwarknockkout 10 months ago
35:28 FUNNY
KASHIV121 1 year ago
hats off to daan veer soor karn. he knows he is going to die coz he is on adharma side which leads to lose.
parakala1 1 year ago
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mit3inn 1 year ago
for the first time..yudhistir was actually belligerent!
tanvee28 1 year ago
greatest characters in mahabharat.. are Krishna and Karna
pariah390 1 year ago
@intdx kauravs chale gaye tujhe chodh gaye!!
ankushzap 1 year ago
umm as far as the ad goes, western union takes 20 mins, what's so special about 3 days, lol?? ha haaaaa!!!!!
DaRealDeal2008 1 year ago
just winning not matters .......u have potential of it..........corav loose but their potential was much then pandavs ....eliminate ''lord krishna'' n the corav become looser..........its just succes of krishna
shailukala 1 year ago
i can feel durjodhen's pain on karan's death.
misindia07 1 year ago
@intdx Why dont you get out of here, if u dont understand dont watch it, There r numerous different stories weaved in this great epic
moviefreak7007 1 year ago
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What crap is this .. first everyone insults in front of every elders and everyone of the family the daughter in law, stripping her and calling her whore ... and evry1 is silent ... infact enjoying the scene .... and then everyone is fighting and killing each other deceitfully .... the whole epic teaches you all the non sense ... caste system, gambling and then putting you own wife on stake, and stripping your sister in law, cheating ... what a shame. I m ashamed all these happened in India once
intdx 1 year ago
@intdx : Intdx I am glad to see that you did get some learnings out of this. So yes these things did happen , but then thats the whole point of the whole story.. Did you pay attention to the "Learnings" one gets out of this .. because thats the whole point. Did you learn anything from Gita - That also came out of it. Its like when u churn th eocean - you get Amrit and Poison both. Such is life - we get good and bad in life - The Question is Which side you are on ..
ramils 1 year ago
If 'Winning by losing is fact' Duryodhan is idol of this whole epic !! He won it all !! punkt .
wwinds 1 year ago
Duryodhan is sure a great warrior in mind ! lest he would not dare this whole happen ! Duryodhan more friend to Karna as much as Karna was to him ! And it is not ethical when Pandavs wanted their rights on Karna's ceremony !! Epic of complex emotions Mahabharat.. ! which culture in this world can ever come with these emotions even in millions of years ?
wwinds 1 year ago
No culture in this world can ever feel such emotions nor create such Epic ! what emotion of humans as we have is not emitimised in Mahabharat ?
wwinds 1 year ago
Karna was already as good as dead, Arjuna could not have lost with Krsna supporting him.
computermaster 1 year ago
The Pandavas other than Arjun and Bhim were as weak as a child, esp Yudhistir, Nakul and Sahadev- they're not worthy even to possess weapons.
buku1234 1 year ago
@ 43 :39.. this scene cracks u up...
axl8 1 year ago
narrator says: "zindagi ne [karan ko] Kuchh na diya"... should have been "Jeevan ne..." but still ... this is good shit
fanonipl 1 year ago
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foryatharthgeeta 1 year ago
Nothing has changed in the "World of Politics" than that of the days of "Mahabharata" . All the lessons are still the same only the techniques has been renamed.
jayzskymark 1 year ago
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Narad told Bhishma, Vyas and Vidura about real identity of Karna long before the War.
4820011 1 year ago
Narad told Bhishma, Vyas and Vidura about real identity of Karna long before the War.
4820011 1 year ago
Karna - the most tragi character of Mahabharat
every one got some sort of happiness in their lives but he never did.
He was forced to live life of a commoner though he was royal
Was loathed by sooo many gurus inspite of being the best
N in the end when he could have defeated Arjun, he was told arjun was his younger brother..... Which made him not to kill him
lovelynight007 1 year ago 18
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sun33l 1 year ago
Karna!! Oh dear! He was born with bad fortune! First of, though a royal blood, he always lived meagerly; went to many gurus, but only got curses rather than blessings/teachings; nobody ever accepted him in the society, so had to join the Kauravas; and on the battle when he never had any good life, he suffered a pity death! ;-( So sad!!!
UniverseNepal 1 year ago
People are missing a few points in all the arguing here. First of all, all of the characters in Mahabharat had both good and bad traits. This applies to everyone including Duryodhan. And yes, even Krishna had some bad traits. Hence his warning to only follow what he says, not what he does.
Second of all, Krishna is responsible for all the death in the war. But he wanted it to happen, so he could end a Yuga and with his death, start the Kali Yuga. It is all part of his plan, from the beginning.
pratt123 1 year ago
Hi everyone according to my point of view i think God Krishna have done for all of us so we can understand the right or wrong about life...each veer death teach us some thing , friendship, dharm , truth , mother , way .. etc so in short they have died for us thousand and thosand. we should respect their deed atleast we should walk in right way i believe ... i try myself sometime ... thanks
13gemininetwork 1 year ago
I LIKE UR SCIENTIFIC VIEW BUT ONE THING U MUST UNDERSTAND IS THAT IT IS AN EPIC WHICH DO HAVE SOME HISTORICAL SENSE IN IT. IT HAS BEEN THE HABIT OF THE WRITERS FROM THE TIME IMMORTAL TO PROVIDE DIVINITY TO THE CHARACTERS OF GREAT MEN.....KRISHNA,KARNA ALL WERE GREAT BUT THEY WERE NOT DIVINE........TO GLORIFY THEIR CHARACTERS THEY WERE PRESENTED AS GODS.2ND IT IS A HUGE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE PEOPLE DID EXIST AS THE CITIES LIKE HASTINAPUR MAGADHA HAVE BEEN UNEARTHED BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS
VIKRAM6083 1 year ago
This clearly shows that KARMA was given more importance than JANMA in the caste system by Lord Krishna. You can see that during the last rites of Karna, he supported Duryodhan rather than Pandavs. In fact, Karna was one of the Pandavs, yet Lord Krishna believed that Duryodhan should have last rites because Karna was with Duryodhan all his life. According to JANMA, Pandavs can claim his final rites but according to KARMA, he was Duryodhan's friend and so it was. ITS ALL PRECISE...PPL SHUD SEE!!
deadman1061 1 year ago 12
@deadman1061
also..that Krishna knew abt Kunti...but nvr disrespected her...it shws dat both men nd wmn can make mistakes in life....but wmn shd nt b disrespected 4 their mistakes...
krishnathakkar61 4 months ago
@deadman1061 karna was not a pandav
qaz010wsx 1 month ago
Karna and Abhimanyu were the two guys who gave a fair fight in the war. The way Pandava's used the Abhimanyu's death to justify all the cheating they did - don't give me a feeling that they where on DHARMA side and also make me think that Krishna and Pandava's used Abhimanyu. Just because Krishna was in their side doesn't mean that they were right. And over it, Krishna provoked and misdirected them to do cheating by putting it under cover of DHARMA. Not accepted for a God.
ansi82 1 year ago
@ansi82
u need to look beyond the war, both forwards and backwards.in the scientific sense, krishna represents the ultimate. that is nature. the basic meaning is, if all events happen for the reason they did, then natural rules will bend in favour of the ones with purer karmic actions. even after being a strong side, it is the past karmas that created the situations for kauravas in the war. Krishna was perfectly right everywhere. it is deep and conceptual.
hsnse 1 year ago
@hsnse I guess it either fault of the director which made me think like this or I got involved with d story line. But yeah, who knows Duryodhana could have been a better king if he wouldn't have had faced trouble from Pandavas. He was definitely courteous, and upto some extent followed certain rule, which Pandavas dint. And kept crying foul over Abhimanyu without seeing how much damage they r doing. Anyways history always writes good about winner. So its Duryodhan who was bad guy in the end. :-)
ansi82 1 year ago
then either that youngest brother took part in the war when he was an infant or he grew up to be around 17 to take part in it .that implies ki duryodhan was around 117 at that time and gaandhari was .....don' know......133 yrs ol' .ab bole to ancient times mein menopause to hota hi nahi tha.aur adhed umar ke bande hilte hue hathoon mein walking stick liye ladaiyan ladte the.and wat say "dhritrashtra".a real potent guy.bande ki ankhein nahi thi lekin fir bhi 101.din raat bus ek hi kaam.
bhasmasur213 1 year ago
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livingpiano 1 year ago
idhar ke sab gyani logon ko pranam.koi gyani bus ye bata de ki gaandhari ke 100 sons aur 1 daughter .101 children means if gaandhari was 15 at the time of duryodhan's birth.to bole to taking into account ki 1 child per year means she wud have been 116 years ol' when duryodhan's youngest sibling was born.matlab ki duryodhan was around 100 when gandhari gave birth to her last son. i.e now when duryodhan was 100 his youngest brother was a day old.
bhasmasur213 1 year ago
@bhasmasur213 Brother, First i try to prove Indian Science, TULSI give O3(Ozone) not O2, so imp. in each home should grow to balance Ozone by this Long life and health. Now your Question, Duryoudhan and his brother is good and First Example of Test Tube baby, all birth in "Matke/ Vessel" at same time. (I have my things to say, but WORD is limited here, please Search at YouTube "Scientific Verification of Vedic Knowledge in Hinduism - 1" ... All your Satisfaction
iLittleRose 1 year ago
@bhasmasur213 lol..haha..good question...acc. to sm ppl, gandhari had given birth to a number of twins, triplets, octoplets...etc..so its not like one child per year..but still..for sm reason in those times, ppl lived a longer life n still were physically able to do things normally.., yaar there are a lot of things in the story that can be confusing..just take it as is , if not believing in God,then for entertainment and for your own life's quest.
ChauPri 1 year ago
" TO MAIN YE KELE KE PATTE HATA DETA HOON MATA SHRI "
bhasmasur213 1 year ago
what the hell Yudi have done , he curse all the women that they cannot hide secrets....and we are suffering it...by listning them all the time.....lol (no offense all female's...i respect you......i m just kidding)
jimipage111 1 year ago 3
In addition to Karna and Kunti, both Bhishma and Krishna knew the truth about Karna. Any of the 4 could have talked.
In fact, Bhisma could have talked, since that would have preserved lives.
kmg4 1 year ago
karna is great
gtsambpl 1 year ago
@ 28.59 Lord is bowing in front of mother ! Truly mother is god in itself !
serpent7700 1 year ago
LOLLLLL @ Duryodhana ! 35.50
rdubhashi 1 year ago
how does Bhismapitamah know Karan was Kunti putra?
jainu123 1 year ago
@jainu123 Bhismapitamah was a yogi and a perfect bhramachari. With Bhramacarya a person gets unimaginable intellect, memory, intuition and super intuition. Bhishma had all that, therefore he knew everything happening in the Mahabharata. Infact he knew the Mahabhrata before it even happened. Plus he had Maharshi ved Vyas and other great seers in his company so it is only natural that he would know.
chintansatyapanthi1 1 year ago
@chintansatyapanthi1 if he knew he was Kunti putra, and he wanted to stop the Mahabharat, he could have done it then... by telling Doryodhan that Karan is the eldest Pandava...!!! what was stopping him, unlike kunti and krishna?
jainu123 1 year ago
@jainu123 That's because even if he knew he would have done nothing about it. It's the Divine play of the Lord and it must happen. If the Mahabharata did not happen; teachings meant for people like us in Kaliyug would have been mystery. Therefore it was very important for the Bharata to happen. I have already told you that Bhisma was a perfected Yogi therefore he only played his part according to his position in the preplanned war.
chintansatyapanthi1 1 year ago
@jainu123 Because Karna was flowing in the Ganga river as a baby, which is Bhisham's mother, so she saw it, and told him.
kmg4 1 year ago
Shakuni, who is the least deserving of any respect, felt insulted by the presence of Karn...what a joke...but that is exactly what is the trend & accepted behavior today...we have more shakunis than Karn. One more thing, I have noticed, that the more wrong you do, the more respected u become. That is so true today too.
aparaajita10 1 year ago
what a gr8 man karna was! he had all the qualities those 5 pandavas possesed n above that he was "danveer".he was the tragic hero of mahabharat whom everyone who read or watch mahabharat cant hate him.definitely he was better warrior than arjun.even krishna had acknowledged that if u read the original mahabharat.having such gr8 qualities he was leading a miserable life.one who loves karna shudnt debate the way he was killed coz death was his only solution t
dineshthegr8 1 year ago 23
I did not think anyone could die like this 16:56 !
vedicger108 1 year ago
wow, yudhistrir's curse definitely came true! women can't keep secrets - they have to tell someone!
um599 1 year ago
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Tanu370 1 year ago
for the draupadi insult, all those 'veer' who kept quite also needs punishment.. they all got it except that blind foolish king.. bhim should have crushed his skull too with his mace
madmax797 1 year ago
ummm mybe ur right
Tanu370 1 year ago
For me the greatest hero of mahabharata after lord krishna was daan veer karana .
kathzyna 2 years ago 22
what did he do to become such a hero?
addictivebeat 2 years ago
@kathzyna Krishna is disgusting. A total cheater. I am glad at least SOMEONE gave that cheater a curse.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 Yes dude i am totally agree with you.Krishna was the root cause of the war.
9886643154 1 year ago
@kathzyna killing abhimanyu along with all the other kauravas by surrounding him is heroism. Karna deserves the death that he got. He might be a good doner, but as far as heroic goes, Arjun is next after Krishna.
sutharsanravi 1 year ago
@sutharsanravi i am not questioning krishna's decisions. he is supreme . but a warrior who cannot win fair and square cannot be treated as a hero. krishna is the supreme hero followed by bhisme karna and drona
pujasur09 1 year ago
@kathzyna YES I AGREE NOW KARNA WAS GEATEST HERO AFTER KRISHNA.. IT SUPPOSE TO BE ARJUN BUT FEW KRISHNA'S DECISION LET HIM DOWN LIKE KILLED KARNA WEN HE WASN'T EVEN READY!
kamrangujar 1 year ago
This is because when an article gets published in a course book, it is deeply concerned by a penal bcoz millions of students are going to read it. Other reason for mentioning this particular chapter is that every point of injustice done by pandavas is analyzed honestly and unpartially.
9886643154 2 years ago
@9886643154 -
i think uv studied the mahabharat alot but totally failed to understand the underlying morals..
god forgives alot..but wen u croos the final line then he punishes you without caring if his WAY of punishment is just or not.N dat is wot is being said throughout the war "dharamyudh" . Secondly throughout the mahabharat ITHIHAAS and BHAVISHYA are always being thought of..wot will be said about them..This is why krishanji makes arjun do all that "KAPAT"
arjunwhorra 1 year ago
.Its is not analyzed honestly ...its been made very clear that..the kauravas have crossed every line ..every limit that was possible..n u fergave him..now dont!!
arjunwhorra 1 year ago
@arjunwhorra But the people see what they want to see, & tha depends to a large extent, that they will deny everything that points an accusing finger at them. So they acknowledge, explain, justify & oppose whatever depending on whatever can save them the admonition from their own conscience.
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 So anyone can give a 'Shrap' to anyone, eh? Sort of like filing a lawsuit against someone.
Too many Shraps flying around.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 You are really funny. So you think shraap & fatwas are the same thing? And have you seen a common theme in all the shraaps? there is a common theme. Not every one can give shraap. You choose not to make the connection.
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 Both Yudishthira and Gandhari can give shraaps. I know Bheem cannot, so it appears that anyone with an IQ above 100 is qualified to give shraaps.
Shraaps are like lawsuits today - anyone can sue anyone.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 okay einstein, if you say so, that qualifies you, so go ahead, give shraap, if it makes you feel brilliant & powerful. LOL
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 You get emotional only because you are a religious fanatic, not a thinker.
The 'shrap' concept is silly, since anyone can give it, at any time.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 so u are e thinker with a iq>100. thereby qualifying to give shraap/. Go give shraap & get off the airwaves. You are polluting them with your presence.
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 Nope, you are. You have a very limited understanding of Hinduism.
kmg4 1 year ago
@kmg4 would you open help in getting a better understanding of Hinduism? And please include the source you got it from?
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@kmg4 everyone can think only within his or her own constraints & limitations. Though I am unable to understand you comment, comparing shraap to a law suit, may be because my IQ is not 100, Where are the lawyers who usuaslly argue the defense & the attack?
aparaajita10 1 year ago
wow for dryodhan and krishna in 30?who are the pandavas?
MyLalinea 2 years ago
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chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
Pandavas and Krishna were the greatest cowards of human history. History will never forgive you. For my dear friends who are strongly believing that Krishna and Pandavas were real Dharmatma's, study plz study "Mahabharat ki aakhiri Saanzh"(The last evening of Mahabharat) of 9th standard Hindi book (NCERT).
9896468766 2 years ago
dude do u even know what ur talking about.... "Mahabharath Ki Antim Saanjh"??....seriously??....i mean its just a freaking story....ur telling every1 to read it as if it was written by some1 who saw the Mahabharat war himself....its just an opinion presented by an author,might be a good chapter for all you know
May be thats your problem....u read that chapter without knowing the entire story of Mahabharat yourself....so you accepted the opinion of the author as the sole truth
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
And you are the biggest fucking moron.Several times I defined the injustice part of Pandvas and you were not able to understand that.Remember that clap doesn't happens with a single hand. And about Karan's son killing which I mentioned earlier his one son (I didn't talked about all the 9 sons).
9886643154 2 years ago
and in your own words "clap does not happen with one hand"....so after the swayamvar both parties attacked each other when they found out that the man who won was Arjun....so somebody got killed,there was no cheating
moreover one son of Karna survived....Vrishaketu....after the war Arjun took care of him like his own son
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
"Pandava's and Krishna were greatest cowards"??....not at all!!!!
"History will never forgive you".....History didnot forgive them....all the Pandava's (Except Yudhishthir) were sent to hell for the crime of "Kul Hatya"....while Duryodhan after being brutally killed by Bheem ascended straight to heaven and saw Karn already sitting there
Krishn was cursed by Gandhari and due to that his entire family (the Yaduvansh) was destroyed,and his Empire, Dwarka Nagri,got submerged into the ocean
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
so buddy if u wanna give such comments read the actual text instead of a 9th standard NCERT textbook
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
Hi Dear,apni kah chuke ab hamari bhi suno. I replied late because my exams were going on and I was not able to reply earlier. First of all I would like to tell you that I have read more text on mahabharat that you even can't imagine. Have you read the real Mahabharat holy book? Have you read "Parth se kaho chadhaye Baan"? Have you read Mrityunjya? Have you read Asli Mahabharat? If ever you read these books than never dare to say my views just a freaking story.
9886643154 2 years ago
dude seriously are u some kind of a dimwit??
"Parth se kaho chadhaye baan" was written by Pannalal Patel in the year 1993....even the serial is older than that
Mrityunjay is written by Shivaji Sawant somewhere in 70's....vkli07 is right,ur not only immature but also a retard....u think all these books written in the modern era,20th century are more reliable than the original book
and yes i have read the book mahabharat in sanskrit
a b4 making outrageous comments make sure ur sources are right
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
I think you are the biggest moron I have ever met who can't judje between justice and injustice. Tell me Who have the control on birth whether he takes birth in a Shudra family or a Kshatriya family? Karan was insulted many times on his caste by Draupdi and pandvas. Now I think you will also support the biggest disease of Society: Castism because you are a supporter of pandvas. And about My sources think before raising a finger.
9886643154 2 years ago
ok i'll stop u right there....cuz ur a fuckin moron
first of all i never said im againsy karna....i've been a big fan of his and will always be....look at these episodes carefully....Karna himself tells Bhishma that just like Bhishma cannot leave duryodhan similarly he cannot....which means both know that duryodhan is wrong but they have to be with him
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
At one side you are saying that all the sons of Karna were died in the battle of Kurukshetra and on another one you are saying that one Arjun took care of one son of Karna. You yourself are so much confused than how the hell you can teach others? So I suggest you Sweetie go and read some more text instead of fighting blindly. And whatever Karna said about Dharam and Adharam reflects his high character and his courtesy to accept own faults but not others. And due to his high morality He will
9886643154 1 year ago
respectable in every era. And whatever happened to Draupdi was not entire fault of Karna and Suryodhan but others too. Who asked Yudhishthir to bet his wife without even asking his four younger brothers. Draupdi's insult is a big matter for people like you but what about the insult of Karna and Suryodhan? What about the Murder of Karan's innocent brother and son? Surely in Draupdi's Swayamwar Karan would have killed Arjun if he had not left the court immediately after killing his innocent son.
9886643154 1 year ago
Read Mahabharata carefully, you will get the answer
mrtechnology100 1 year ago
For your kind information I have read mahabharat more than you.
9886643154 1 year ago
wow..... you even know, how much i read Mahabharat. That is something i have seen in the Mahabharata, like rishis knowing without event someone telling or diya drishiti.LOl..
mrtechnology100 1 year ago
I know more than you that's why I wrote a lot here about Mahabharat and put some of the hidden facts,LOI..
9886643154 1 year ago
So you judge the "knowing more Mahabharata than me" factor to "writing more comments"? Well, ok. If that can make you happey, I dont have any problem with that. gg. ;)
mrtechnology100 1 year ago
and "Mrityunjay" is a story about Karn....it talks about his life and his bravery,and many aspects of his life that the common man does not know about....it does not,anywhere,say that Krishna was a coward or Pandavas were cowards
u think u can just name random books to prove that ur right and ppl in this post will get shit scared....well you got the wrong guy!!
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
You are right. I meet with the wrong guy. But you have met the right guy with the right thinking. It is also not mentioned anywhere that Kaurvas or Karan was coward. It was the Karan's mercy and his high ideology of obeying laws that he didn't killed arjun because of sunset (see episode 89).Because of that Jeevandaan that traitor and coward arjun was able to kill Maharathi Karan otherwise he would have fucked him.
9886643154 2 years ago
@9886643154
yes....Karna was a great warrior....probably the best ever....and yes he cud've killed Arjun if he didnot have all those curses
but even he and Bhishma accepted it....they were on the side of adharma....he was doing his duty as a friend
and im glad he went straight to heaven after his death
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
One more thing, everybody blames that Karan was involved in Abhimanyu's death but for those people I have a question. How many of you know that arjun killed Karan's innocent son (In Draupdi Sawayamwar)? How many of you know that arjun killed his innocent brother (in virat yudh, Proof: Mahabharat holy book). What about the poison of castism that Karan was forced to drink every time even it was not his fault that he was a Shudra?
9886643154 2 years ago
@9886643154
and now u've started to piss me off....if u cant talk rationally then shut ur fuckin hole....when did i ever say that karn was a coward
and again please mention ur reference....Karna had 9 sons and all of them were killed during war,and killed fairly in 1 on 1 battle....and u've been reading stupid books kid
and u better bot try to dump that casteism shit on me.....cuz i never said anything even remotely casteic
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
Fucking nerd,I agreed Duryodhan has done some wrong acts, but who forced him to do this? Surely Dropdi's Poisonous tongue. Remember Clapping doesn't happen with a single hand. You are saying that Stripping down one's wife is a crime but insulting one's father in a court and laughing on his blindness isn't a crime.Insulting somebody in a court just because he is a shudra is right then what to say about you baby??????
9886643154 2 years ago
thats what i said....draupadi did wrong....she laughed at duryodhan's father,it IS a crime....but she was scolded by kunti and she apologised for that....she called karna a sut putra....agreed
still my friend....stripping a woman in front of a court,calling her a prostitute in front of her husbands....do u think that punishment suits the crime??....and doing that to their own sister in law while she was begging and pleading??
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
One of the biggest Golden Rule of History: Every Sin of winners is forgiven no matter how big rascal they were, whether it is pandvas or ram. Insulting Draupdi was a big crime but killing of millions of people and owns relatives werent a crime? Whatever wrong pandvas has done that is forgiven but whatever Kurus and Karna had done has never been forgiven because they were losers and died in the battle of Kurukshetra.
9886643154 1 year ago
@9886643154 Then you have missed the whole point. In Mahabharat, again & again Bhishma Pitamaha, Krshn, Arjun, Yudhishthar, Vidur,all are against the war. It is repeated again & again during the entire course, that the soldiers fighting gain nothing, war is to be avoided at all cost, & that there are no winners in a war. It only causes death, destruction, pain & suffering of unimaginable magnitude.
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 I think you have missed the whole point,draupdi's poisonous tongue,insult of Suryodhan and Karan,killing of Karna's innocent sons by arjun etc.These incidents also led to the war.I agree that some people like Bhishma,Gandhari,Vidur were against the war but they were not able to stop the war.
9886643154 1 year ago
@9886643154 I get your point, you mean, just like the terrorist attacks on the world today by the muslims are okay, & the muslims should be considered heroes, they attacked because they are "insulted" a la insult od you suryodhan. BTW, who is suryodhan, can you shed some light, scholar?
aparaajita10 1 year ago
@aparaajita10 Thanx for calling me scholar.Mahaveer the greatest mace fighter whom you known as Duryodhan,his real name was Suryodhan.Once again you are considering one side fact of Muslims,but not the bloody game played by Americans and Britishers in Iraq,Vietnam,Afganistan and India?What to say about you kid???LOL
9886643154 1 year ago
@9886643154 I did not mention bloody game played by Americans and Britishers in Iraq,Vietnam,Afganistan and India because of constraints of # of characters used. They aren't much different. And they aren't any less fanatics either. They not only wage wars, but fund the mercenaries too under the label of missionaries
aparaajita10 1 year ago
moreover....Karn himself said to Keshav "i can face the entire Pandav army but one person i cannot face is that Sati,who i humiliated in front of the court....i dont know what happened to me that day....im ashamed and im not worthy of forgiveness"
he was a gr8 man....he just went astray due to his love for his friend....i was never against Karna....for me he is the biggest hero of the story,followed by Bhishm
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
fucking pakis
DaviHavoc09 2 years ago
You are talking about the sources who were published in 70's and 90's but forget that Mahabharat is a 5000 years old story and it will remain the same in every century.
9886643154 2 years ago
oops man!!!! u look absolutely immatured guy ....very childish talk...u have then spoiled all the intentions of this serial.. did u see all the episodes of this serial..did u listen to bhagavadgita in eposodes 71-75.....this war not about cowards or brave people....it is about justice and injustice..if u say this then what about duryodhan and kauravas....lakshagruha, the game of dice, draupadis disrobe and abhimanyus killing? What about all these...
vkli07 2 years ago
I have seen 3 times this serial and for your information if killing somebody's innocent son and brother (of Karan) is right and insulting somebody's father on his blindness is right then what to say about you? Also judge the whole incident on practical aspect and not on emotional aspect.
9886643154 2 years ago
@9886643154
what the hell do u mean "innocent"....they were in a war and they were killed fairly in one on one battle....they were martyr's
Abhimanyu was killed by 7 people....which was against the rules of war
Draupadi did wrong by insulting Duryodhan's father's blindness....agreed....but the punishment shud suit the crime....u think stripping one's own older sister in law in front of a court and her husbands is fair??....well what to say about you??
chandlerhbk08 2 years ago
and again if kauravas did it it is right? If pandavas did any thing it is wrong.....? U should see krishnas dialgoues before dronacharyas vadh.....TO KILL A PERSON WHO IS ON THE SIDE OF ADHARMA, DOOING ADHARMA IS NOT WRONG..ABSOLUTLEY THE POLICY OF TIT FOR TAT..
vkli07 2 years ago
if u dont like the serial please leave it there my friend..but please do not misguide people like this..sorry to say these, but ur comment deserves this answer
vkli07 2 years ago
I have also one more doubt....like is this person 9896468766 was duryodhan in his previous birth and born now? Because none other than duryodhan can say the words that "Krishna and pandavas are the cowards in history"?
vkli07 2 years ago
It would have been my pleasure if I was Duryodhan, the greatest Macefighter of all time and not the coward like pandvas and their supporters.
9886643154 2 years ago
Dude, are u one of the kauravas in your previous birth. It is not about who is a greate warrior or who is not. In that case, no body except karna and ekalavya can match Arjun and bhima in strength in those times. No body can match with yudhistir in dharma and nakula and sahadeva in sword fights respectiviely. And ofcourse Lord Krishna is the supreme god and no one can even dream to match with him. Now regarding cowards and brave people, the question of mahabharata is all about dharma and adharma
vkli07 2 years ago
And also it is about the war between justice and injustice. when you are on the side of dharma and justice, god will be with you(krishna) and you will win in such a war. Killing a villian with treachery is also dharma and justice. Because if people like duryodhana were there, and if mahabharata actually happened, today there would have been no respect for woman, and the laws would have been formulated that disrobing a lady in public is not at all wrong, u can do treachery to kill people and it
vkli07 2 years ago
You can easily notice the conspiracy of Lakshagrah,Abhimanyu and Draupdi's Vastraharan but what about the killing of Karan's innocent brother and son? What about the insult done to Karan and Suryodhan? As Suryodhan said in the 92nd episode "Ankahe pita ki 5 santaane", that clearly reflects pandvas were not the real sons of Paandu but basterds. Pavan ,indra,dharamraj has fucked kunti and they were born. How the hell they were claiming that they were the real claimers of Hastinapur?
9886643154 1 year ago
if you want to debate, pls refrain from crude/crass language.. u r forgetting something.. pandavas were not 'power' crazy.. duryodhan was(btw, its suyodhan, not suryodhan).. they were willing to settle for 5 villages. they developed indraprast from scratch.. and ur favorite suyodhan stole that unfairly.. to me bottom line is this: anyone dragging a woman and trying to humilate her like that - deserve to die
madmax797 1 year ago
And what punishment a person deserves who kills innocent people (like Karan's Son and younger brother)? Suryodhan has invited Krishna to dine with him but he again insulted him by rejecting the invitation. This further raised his anger and that's why he rejected Krishnas proposal of 5 villages. And what to say about pandva's courtesy when they send their messenger to Hastinapur, what kind of language they used (Arjun and Bhim)...
Again I am repeating the same thing Winners only write history
9886643154 1 year ago
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mrtechnology100 1 year ago
Surely In their favour. And instead of saying my language as crude/crass just put an eye on the comments (on this episode) and decide who started first...
9886643154 1 year ago
My dear bro, i am very happy to discuss with you and respect your ideas and then defend them if they are against my ideas. but using a filthy languages words in such discussions is not good....i can see that some of your comments has filthy words which are not supposed to be here atleast in such discussions on a great epic like mahabharat
vkli07 1 year ago
now coming to your point.....firstly the truth is that kunthi did not give birth to the pandavas by having any physichal contact with the gods..it is the mantra of durvasa which she used to get those sons from gods on the request of her husband pandu when he knows that he will die if he touches his wives but he wants to have sons..see the beginning epiosodes of mahabharat 1-10 for this story
vkli07 1 year ago
now...coming to the karna case....i dont understand who is the brother and son of karna..karna himself is the brother of pandavas which is revealed by kunti after he dies..and now let us come to the point of dividing the kingdom....whatever be the issue whether they are bilogical sons of kunti or not but she gave birth to them through mantra and agreement of pandu..so if everybody agreed on this and only duryodhan is opposing it then it is his view and there is no rule his view has to be agreed
vkli07 1 year ago
by others...and now after kindgdom is divided and given to pandavas they put their sweat and blood and made it indraprasth...any way it is divided and they brought it to high levels keeping their hardwork..now duryodhan seeing this felt jealous and tried to grab their kingdom through treachery using dice game with the help of sakuni..dont u think he is a dictator or a guy with monarch attitude...if u put ur sweat and blood and somebody takes it by force from you wont it be painful?
vkli07 1 year ago
and still pandavas and krishna did not attack after the exile ..they first put a peace message to kauravas "ok what ever happened has happened..war will kill many innocent people due to the rival between u 100 sons and we 5 sons....so let us not it happend and give our kingdom back......but duryodhan still did not agree to it..,...becuase of his selfishness and greed ..as he though pandavas could not go against his great kaurava warriors like bheeshma, drona and karna..he undeestimated
vkli07 1 year ago
krishna and pandavas..had he known that bhesshma and drona and karna will not fight for him, he would never have went for a war...so dont support him blindly..on the other side i say that pandavas also did mistakes like keeping their wife to stake in the game of dice and so yudhistir himself said that this exile is a punishment for me for doing that and i am ready to accept it..mahabharat is all about learning from each character there to know what to do and what not to do...in life ..
vkli07 1 year ago 2
@vkli07 be dofa band kar
ankitpharmacy2000 1 year ago
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vkli07 1 year ago
abe saale if i start getting indescent you can not bear it...agar sun sakte to suno nahi to chupkar bhait jaav......saale bahut banda mat kar.......
vkli07 1 year ago
each character in mahabharat is from which we can learn ..so hope u understood my view point
vkli07 1 year ago 10
@vkli07 You are so right. But most people posting here seem to do it with an agenda of false propaganda.