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  • way better than fox lol

  • "Here's Richard DAAAHHkins"

  • Atheism frees you up alright...........Noone was more free than Stalin.

  • @bahdahdoop It would help if you could point me towards the passage in -nonexistent book- that states that atheists should order the massacre of millions.

    Atheists are very well known for following every iota in -nonexistent book-, and do so in a very fundamentalist and extremist way.

    You can project all you want, your bigotry won't make atheism into something it's not.

  • Mmm... innocuousness... nice word.

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  • i like how cnn doesnt yell at him and get angry. * cough* fox news

  • @midevilmonday he also has an English accent(or rather no accent at all), that usually helps in america.

  • richard dawkins is the flying spaghetti monster in the flesh

  • Funny how extremely demolished the c*nt was by mr. Dawkins. not that i have ever seen him lose any argument, only people who evade the simple question "Where is your evidence?" and they cant answer, only say that atheism is hateful and ignorant. Pathetic

  • Dawkins says @1:35 that people have been brought up to believe that Atheists are bad. I agree. I remember I sat by a conservative christian girl in high school science class.  When the topic of atheism was brought up she said. "isn't an atheist like some sort of satanist?"

  • My God, Paula Zahn is so beautiful

  • I hate that they label him as an "Atheist" instead of an "Evolutionary Biologist"

    Should others be labeled as a "Religious Closed-Minded Cunt"???

  • I can't understand how any religious person can watch this and not understand where Dawkins is coming from. He's plain and simple, black and white, and it's clear that he's a nice person. Anyone who calls him stupid, or full of shit, after watching this video is just plain insecure about themselves and their beliefs. It's clear this man is brilliant and credible.

  • 0:08 Rule of journalism. When you are discussing a subject that has different view points, it is ideal in fairness to have the opposing view point to fight their case. Idiots and bigots, the lot of them.

  • How are people most greatly attacked? (Mere words)

  • I am extremely impressed by this man's eloquence. I think I have to read his book now. Shame on me for not doing it earlier.

  • @miceruletheworld42 there is even an audio version with his awesome voice. available on the bittorrents

  • @yuriythebest That is awesome! He does have a really nice voice *off to go look for that* Thanks!

  • Dawkins, bloody brilliant!

  • "what's there to be frightened of?"

    losing control of the masses.

  • @Fuel1 you sir have hit the nail on the head.

  • I don't know whether or  not the woman is against atheism- in fact, statistically speaking she probably is. But damn- CNN is so much less biased than FOX!

  • If one day suppose Athiest in power than do they give freedom to religiouse peoples to

    believe as today they believing in one almighty I don't think so actually there ideology

    of life will be noooooooooooooooooooo God if any believe in such a things hang him

    to death.........hahahahhahahahah­h

  • Where is the zebra tie prof Dawkins?

  • i literally watched 40 seconds of this interview and i was already in hysterics. This guy is too funny!! "WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN THOR OR THE SPAGHETTI MONSTER" I love it!

  • DAwkins is not a prominent atheist. He is a prominent scientist, writer and educator.

  • the more this man talks the more ignorant he appears to be

  • at the beginning he almost seemed to be attacking her, very glad they carried on with a professional interview after that

  • @raging4lcoholic i think this interview was during the promo tour for the God Delusion release in America so maybe his opposing stance at the beginning was a result of a string of combatitive interviews on that run.

  • I disagree with one thing he says. He says that if you are religious then you don't live your life to the fullest. That's not true! I believe in reincarnation where there are many lives and yet I am living this life to the max, man!

  • @MysteryoftheGods "I believe in reincarnation"

    May I ask why you do ?

  • @nordhorny Nah. If I do people will only slap it down and I'll get a flood of emails telling me how gullible I am.

  • @MysteryoftheGods Do you have PROOF of reincarnation?

  • @ahhhhjjjj Yes. I am writing a book on science, reincarnation and the existence after death. PM me in 6 months when its finished and I'll show u where to get it.

  • @MysteryoftheGods I look forward to reading it. Thank you for responding :)

  • @MysteryoftheGods any evidence you can provide i would love to read.

  • @stoltobot I'm messaging you. Too long to put in 500 words.

  • @MysteryoftheGods

    I would also like to read this, although I am extremely skeptical.

  • @igotsachubby Message me and I'll help you out.

  • I hope Fox News learn from CNN how to be neutral

  • Paula Zahn is so hot : )

  • @montrealwatcher No, I mean Richard's book "The God Delusion"

  • I have his book in my hand right now and I don't really see how it is dangerous.

  • @montrealwatcher I agree completely! No argument here.

  • Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts!!!!

  • @ThatRandomGuy15 I'd have to believe in Buddha since he existed. And to deify him doesnt go so well with traditional buddhist teachings. You get that more in the eastern versions of Buddhism.

    Doesnt mean I'm Buddhist.

  • This is why we love Richard Dawkins.

  • That last statement is what it is all about.

    "...to live this life properly, happily and fully."

    Words of wisdom, my friend.

  • @cmxsevenfoldxmc Couldnt agree more.

  • Flying Spaghetti Monster on CNN!

  • i wish nietzsche was still alive... he would convince everyone to be an atheist

  • Is there the full 20 minute version anywhere, or did you mean it was cut up before it ever was on the show?

  • Acid in school goes a long way.

  • i had a religion and Heaven was great what if i wanna play some R rated games or do some R rated stuff in heaven. make a war movie or something what is heaven like does anybody know and what religion gives me more then one Wife to sleep with, I go there in a heart beat. 100% atheists me

  • People only read the god delusion, it is good, but not near as interesting as his other books. I do suppose his other books are far to intellectual for the average reader in America I suppose.

  • Ask a guy a question he answers with 213 more questions i like him.

  • Hey Zamboro, for Atheist's, Dr. Dawkins is their god and Atheism is their religion. After all, as expressed by Dawkin's, they believe in the scientific viewpoint & THEORY, that stardust experienced an accident genesis of life, (Abiogenesis) which occurred to form a protozoa, then eventually evolved in to a being such as Einstein. That takes too much faith for me, so I clap for you Atheist's, because your faith is far greater than my Christian faith. Clap, clap...

  • @y2ktube Wow you really like to spread crap around don't you? I guess that's what christians like to call "spreading the gospel".

  • @y2ktube Lol you so full of shit its funny... Who told you Dawkins is the Atheist god? I would be willing to bet no one did, and you made it up yourself or picked it up from some other diluted person like yourself.

  • @morntis The Bible states "gods many & lords many" Dawkins is your god like the butchered Madalyn Murray O'Hair & other doomed Atheists are your lords... Hey morntis, Pascal's wager baby. If you don't wish to make that bet then enjoy this life as much as you can, because IF by small chance the Bible is correct, the after life will be HELL for you. Farewell

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  • @y2ktube calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color

  • @punkrockdrummmer You're quite the comedian aren't you. Oh the denial. Well, if there is one, good luck in the after life Punk.

  • @y2ktube He's right actually.

  • @Khyrid Hey believe what you want. Just remember; eternity is a long time to be wrong...

  • @y2ktube That's called pascals wager. Eternity is a long time to be wrong about Islam, Zues etc. You have as much chance of being wrong as me.

  • @Khyrid Well then, you better pick a "Pascal's" wager in this horse race. Because you're not even in the race right now with Dawkins & his fellow Atheist's. Their FAITH is in the Abiogenesis bible... Non-existent to simple & dumb, accidentally morphing into complex & intelligent. I have to applaud your tremendous faith in the highly improbable.

  • @y2ktube I'm willing to bet you have no idea the kind of probabilities that are involved with the scientific theory of Abiogenesis. And I don't have faith in it either. It could very well be wrong. But I'm willing to give a higher probability to that theory than I am the idea that a magic man created the universe. And sorry, but I'm never going to join some religion out of fear of whatever bullshit they want to threaten. I don't choose what to believe, I acknowledge what I believe.

  • @Khyrid Well genius, since you're deviating from your lord Dawkins, tell us all what is a more plausible scientific theory for stardust eventually turning into a protozoa?

    And of course since you know, your "idea" of what are the probabilities comparison to a "magic man"...

  • @y2ktube Star dust is matter, and that is made of atoms. An atom itself is extremely complex and we do not fully understand how they work. That anything could come of atoms I don't find impossible. The question is what is the original cause to how atoms can even exist? We have no way of knowing currently, but you seem content it was a magical man who hates foreskins and homosexuals.

  • @Khyrid So your faith is in throwing up a bunch of atoms up into the air for billions of years and it eventually becoming Einstein... That's quite a faith you have there. I applaud people like you & Dawkins with such a tremendous faith! Ahahahahaha wait a minute, got to catch my breath hahahahahaha.

  • @y2ktube You really should stop being so arrogant, because your view for how the universe started is just as (in my opinion even more so) far fetched. The fact is that no matter who is right the true explanation must be amazing. So if it was atoms that formed into planets and chemicals that formed into so self replicating chemicals and then to life and Einstein or if it was Magic that did it all, it's crazy either way.

  • @Khyrid stated:" it's crazy either way" Well Khyrid, add foolish to that. Quoting the Bible: Psalms 14:1"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." Pascals wager should be looking pretty good to you by now...

  • @y2ktube An argument from the Bible holds little weight in proving the bible to be true, that's called circular logic. And no it's not foolish to think that scientific theories could be true. Nor is it foolish to think that our universe may be intelligently designed, although I don't believe it is personally. Foolishness is only achieved when one assumes they know for certain what they cannot possibly and embrace absolute thinking without regard to any opposing views.

  • @Khyrid I can certainly appreciate your conceding that believing in intelligent design isn't foolish. Thanks for being reasonable. As far as the Bible, I wasn't arguing with it, it just happens to be the Psalms author's assertion, that it was an inspired quote from God Almighty. To use your words "it's crazy either way"; but that's the neat thing about faith & why it's possible reward is so extreme. (And I don't mean 69 virgins like that assinine religion of peace) Thanks again...

  • @y2ktube I know it's easy to become defensive on the internet. Here people shove their beliefs down each others' throats with total arrogance. But that doesn't change any minds. I am not close minded, I constantly wonder about "what if", I always try to see things through the other guys eyes. All I ask is you do the same. I don't mean to convince you that there is no god, but at least question your religion. Are you certain it all makes sense? Because it didn't to me.

  • @Khyrid Fair enough & I totally agree with you... I think we're both gambling a bit. (To use the Stock Market verbiage) We're just taking different "positions". Take care

  • richard dawkings is a genius! glad to see some people are actually beginning to accept this. no doubt though that cnn is still going to be hostile to atheists like all news broadcasts these days.

  • Dawkins says precisely what he thinks. He doesn't scream. He uses calm, measured tones in his reasoning. People who believe in Gods deserve contempt for the following reason: "They pave the way and make it safe for the fundamentalists to inculcate their hideous ideologies. If you eliminated the sensible, religious masses you would not provide the breeding ground for the maniacs." Remember, it takes science to fly planes to the moon and religion to fly planes into buildings.

  • Human built the twin towers, religion brought them down.

  • This interview is so much better than the Fox News interview.

  • Atheist =/= Non-believer

  • I love how the lady thought she was smarter than Richard Dawkins. By her tone and body language, I think she thought that he was ignorant of this topic. Ironically, though, Dawkins was infinitely more informed and he overestimated his interviewer.

  • I laughed at the start when the guy said that people wanted an atheist in the discussion about atheism. Shouldn't that have been common sense.

  • it's one thing to say such beliefs are foolish and another to say I cannot imagine any other reality beyond the present visible-experiential one we are in (I think...and smart people must allow for the possibility whilst living life to the full...)

  • viva Richard Dawkins

  • Athiest in theory: I don't believe in God.

    Atheist in practice: YOUR RELIGION IS A LIE!!! FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER HURR-DURR, THAT'S SO FUNNY! CAPS LOCK IN REACTION TO YOU WANTING TO STOP ME FROM BEING A WHORE AND KILLING BABIEZ!!!

    It's still not as bad as libertarians and fags.

  • @JimProfitCat At least your not quoting parts of the bible. "HURR- DURR"

  • @rowanrockhopper2, actually that was a fair summary :D

  • lol he always does that funny blink stare at people lol

  • I wish Dawkins was my professor. I think he's dreamy!

  • There he preaching his beliefs.

  • Thank you mr Dawkins. Atheism is a BELIEF system. It is in fact a religion.

  • nonsense

  • Mr. Dawkins says atheism is a "different belief system" he says it right in this vid. It is afact by the way there really isn't any proof that no higher intelligence exists.

    Get it now?

  • you obviously were'nt listening. he said he's an atheist because there is no positive evidence for theism. it's the absence of belief. call that a different beleif system if you like but to say it's on the same level as religion is wrong.

  • @CheekyVimto08

    I obviously was listening I quoted him word for word.

    There is also no positive evidence against theism.

    Furthermore every action anyone does is caused and preceded by some belief.

    Beliefs are fundamental characteristics of the person.

  • @Criterionx9 No really if you were listening you'd see that it is up to the theist to provide positive evidence. And if you define belief like that you make it meaningess. Of course everything has some belief or assumption behind it, but to then equate these with th belief in god is wrong. God is not the same as the every day assumptions that we make and belief requires much more faith.

  • You don't have a clue.

  • @GluttonForSex Really??? Why wouldn't you prove me wrong then???

  • Intolerant because theists feel atheism threatens what they find emotionally comforting.

  • Richard Dawkins survey of 100,000 atheist found that 89,119 were gay or bi-sexual.This is thier agenda

  • so what if it is?

  • I visited your channel. It was just more retarded creationist stuff. Did I miss something?

  • @Zamboro hahahaha nice dude

  • @Zamboro Just as dumb-ass as your Dawkins & his fellow Atheist's FAITH in the Abiogenesis bible. Non-existent to simple & dumb, accidentally morphing into complex & intelligent. A tremendous faith in the highly improbable.

  • @Zamboro

    the evidence, yes

  • I would insert the word "good" before evidence. There is bad evidence for God, and that isn't very compelling to skeptics.

  • @Eye2EyeIIIV

    lol@you.

  • I'm pretty sure if there was a god, Dawkins would put him in his place instantly.

  • Excellent Video.

  • he is seriously my hero

  • Ah, Richard Dawkins is a genious.

  • hahah at the end of the vid the lady was probably like "oshit.... hes right."

  • Wow! A decent interview from an otherwise biggoted close-minded channel! I'm actually impressed...although it does make you wonder what was in the 16mins they cut out...

  • Christians are just people shit scared of death, clinging onto the idea of eternal life.

  • Either morals are autonomous or they do not exist at all. If a person refrains from murdering his neighbor only out of fear of Divine Retribution his behavior is dictated not by moral values, but by caution, fear of the Holy Policemen, egoism. And if a person does good only with an eye to salvation, she is not doing good since her behavior is dictated by self-interest rather than by duty or by love and will thus not be saved.

  • religious people are close minded because when u debate with them they constantly refer to passages in the bible to prove their point

    "god doesnt exist"

    "yes he does because it says so in the bible"

  • My usual response is "But in the Ghita, Krishna says that whenever I pray to any god, I'm praying to him. That means Jesus is just an incarnation of Krishna" It can be fun to throw their own bullshit back at them.

  • Life is TRULY beautiful and miraculous. We forget that when we get older and responsibilities wear us down.

  • Wait a second..Live this life really good and die..What's the point?

  • Doesn't your life have a point to it? Mine does. I like being around my friends, traveling, watching good films, eating things I've never tried before, falling in love....

    Isn't *anything* in your life worth it? Or do you hate every day of it, and you only carry on because you hope there's a heaven?

  • checkmate!.. good job zambo.. and it does sound like equipp needs to visit a shrink, he/she sounds mighty depress :(

  • you've lived a good life and hopefully had a positive impact on someone or something. why do you need more?

  • what's the point in living a life just waiting for a better after life. Wouldn't you just be looking for a shortcut to the better afterlife?

    Also, please explain the concept of hell and eternal punishment for mortal sins. How does one learn his lesson for committing a sin if he is to be punished for eternity?

  • The point is to enjoy life while you have it...... Not waste it and pretend that your going to have another one if you follow a set of imaginary rules.

  • @TheEquipper wow this post was from a loooooong time ago but.....

    wait. the only point to life for either side is well, living it... if you mean what is the meaning to life, that's a completely different question and it's based entirely on the individual. the meaning shouldnt change whether a god exists or not. an atheist's life is worth more in the sense that we believe that we aren't getting a second chance. its not that we're saying we don't want one, but thats just what we believe

  • @TheEquipper wow you need a REASON to be good? You will only be good if you're rewarded after you die? I definately dont need any imaginary being telling me to be "good". Which sounds more "good" to you?

  • @TheEquipper Maybe the point IS to FIND the POINT! Through science! Not accept bigotry simply because its the only answer,

    wouldn't you like to know the truth,

    maybe there will be something very beneficial in knowing the truth,

    so let us discover the truth using science in every aspect of life.

  • There is a God. I was blessed by his noodley tentacles. When I die I will be rewarded, for my devotion to pasta, with a stripper factory, a beer volcano, and unlimited pasta and garlic bread.

  • i dont believe in god but i dont believe that once we die se seace to exist so what does that make me?

  • blindly optimistic

  • There is no evidence to YOU Mr. Dawkins, that does not mean there is no spiritual connection, NOT a SCIENTIFIC, INTELLECTUAL, or LOGICAL connection, but a SPIRITUAL, PERSONAL, FAITHFUL connection between a person and their God. If you want to prove your point, fine, but please, I ask you and your followers, to not insult me because I don't subscribe to your views. I am Roman Catholic, and proud of it, just as you are proud to be atheist, if you don't believe in what I do, that's fine by me.

  • The problem is not the differing in opinion b/w atheists and religious people - its the emotional attachment and self invested in the beliefs. If religion was proven false today (to many it already was but thats a different issue), first - religious ppl would deny it. Then, when you can't deny it any longer, they would feel intense fear, like a huge part of themselves is lost. This is nothing more than an emotional reaction because the beliefs are questioned. But youll still be alive and well.

  • lots of ppl claim to have a personal relationship with their specific god. lots of ppl claim to hear god's voice in their heads.

    now, if god really doesn't exist, what does that say about the ppl with the voices in their heads? do we have enough straitjackets i wonder?

  • No we don't. That's why there are wars etc. Not enough straightjackets. Perfect.

    Meanwhile, who are you to judge which are really hearing and which aren't? If you could work the Logic, then you could see that the 'faith' of Mormons, Muslims and HIndus is absolute crock. You could see the irreconcilable breeches of logical consistency therein. Christianity however, in it's pure biblical form, you cannot find such a problem with. I've challenged people for 23 years to find one. Fail.

  • they should call it the holey bible: it's been blown through with so many holes that its sad ppl still defend.

    christianity has hundreds of problems, probably more so than any other religion. the way it deals with the problems is to ignore them or pretend they dont exist.

    if you want you can send me a copy of your bible and i can highlight everything that's wrong with it. if i did, almost every page would be yellow.

  • I'm sure you challenged rednecks.... But you're right (sarcasm). All other religions are crazy but yours make sense... It is not crazy to believe that a talking snake tricked a man made from mud and a woman made from the man's rib into eating a forbidden apple. That's perfectly logical... I'm guessing your from Alabama???

  • The voice in your head is called YOUR BRAIN. Everything you think, see, feel, smell, and hear is all information processed in YOUR BRAIN. You aren't feeling anything "supernatural" or "spiritual". Also I believe "strait" is spelled "straight". The voice in your head must have told you otherwise...... Go to school. Please

  • that was what i was getting at. i was trying to get the theist to suspend his belief for a second and see the implications of if he was wrong.

    i'm using the dictionary on my computer, it says it can be spelled both ways, but it wouldn't be the first time MS let me down.....

  • Richard Dawkins owned!

  • And when was he owned? Fucken idiot

  • He wasn't owned. He owned.

  • Its not good to get Richard Dawkins on, hes a scientist, and scientists are not used to debate against lies.

    They should get Matt Dillahunty instead... AND Russel Glasser AND Jeff Dee And basicly all of Atheist Experience :D

  • Morals are not reliant on religion. In fact it is experience and compassion that religion relies on. when humans were nomadic and killed eachother without a problem, where was god. It is only since humans realize cohabitation was advantageous that they invented god to keep them in check. This system is no longer necessary for us to live together.

  • How can u think God was invented, if u claim to be a deist? Isn't that somewhat contrary?

    And the Bible never said nonbelievers can't do nice things. 1) God just can't pop out like a genie and stop war and other ugly human affairs. These are the works of men, not of God. 2)However, there is a difference in time, when people lived under the Law, instead now which is under Grace. Back then, it was a different system, but today we live after the sacrifice of Jesus.

  • OH WAIT! Ziggy, I'm sorry, ur not the deist lol. I mistook u for Tommyboy. uggh. My bad, scratch that. He's the deist. It gets confusing talking to multiple. Sorry bout that.

  • Thats cool. But i will reply nonetheless: I find it ludicrous to thank god for anything. life- millions of sperm didn't make it so i could fertilize an egg and grow up. Is it by god's grace that so much waste occurs. Healing- people believe god heals but he has never given an arm to an amputee, does he discriminate, does he only do easy sickness like the flu?

  • God doesn't deserve praise, he deserves our criticism. He is not doing a good job (if he exists). 99% of all species have died, they die everyday around us as the universe expands and the earth cools. His creation is not stable, it is unreliable and uninhabitable (earthquakes,volcanoes). if you look at your earth you will see it is beautiful for its uniqueness not for its sanctity.

  • God said everything He made was "Very Good" (that was before the Fall). Man's sin is responsible for the way the universe appears to us now. There was no death/entropy before Adam and Eve sinned.

  • I like ur questions, they are thought provoking. Well Mr. Zig, the entropy of things are a result of The Curse. When Adam and Eve disobeyed, "Sin brought death into the world". (Not the other way around). Jesus wanted people to believe He was God. He raised people from the dead (and restored a soldier's ear for being cut off). Jesus did the work, and faith is up to us now. That means, God isn't gonna make himself obvious for each passing generation. It's all about faith.

  • Thank you sir, i only want to be thought provoking and do not wish friction between any people on this earth. Word, what about people who never know the word of jesus and the bible, are they curse to damnation? What about those people who are born in slums in India and don't know of Christianity? Is there another path for them that i'm unaware of? Why is it that family and parentage determine religion.

  • Quite honestly my belief is that we are taught religion before we develop the faculty of reason and thus religion shapes our reality for us without consent. This is unfair, infants are not able to understand this concept but are force fed it from birth. Those beliefs become ingrained and the basis of future learning and decision making.

  • I can sympathize for the infants who get "force fed". I was one of them. I grew up Catholic, but the Catholics in my opinion simply rely on the element of 'tradition' (zzz..zzz..zzz..which was a reason Y I slipped away). Then years passed before I was reintroduced to the Bible in a very different way the Church never provided before. They informed me of things I never knew before. It was an incredible epiphany, and since then I was "reborn".

  • Ok,.. I said 'before' like, twice, sorry that was redundant. But to be more specific, unlike reading passages from the Bible (which anybody can do), some different Christians interpreted certain verses for me, they showed me that how the Bible was to apply to my life, they read that God was love and not hate. Stuff like that, tt was drastic. And now,... I try to urge people to take a second look with an open mind, because God has changed me so much, I intend to study theology now.

  • i'd say that when you were reintroduced to the bible you still didn't have the reasoning or critical thinking faculties to correctly research the evidence and facts. instead you just believed the shit they told you, or used your biased experiences to weigh the evidence. be a scientist, not a theist.

  • Hey bro, this was a year ago. I forgot this blog. Oh memories. But yes, I definitely have improved many critical thinking skills.

    I'll begin to prove it by showing your own bias. The fact you say "be a scientist, not a theist."

    It's called false dichotomy. There are enough scientists who are theists, and if you review your history, the founding fathers of most the sciences were in fact devout Christians.

    Be honest. Not an atheist liar confused about history.

  • first, I gave my opinion, so how was I lying?

    Second, I was not calling you biased, I said experience is not evidence because it is biased. for instance, if you believe in a god than your conclusion about an experience is biased because you are seeing through believer goggles. This is why science is so great! it is independent of opinion and experience. Also the driving force of science is not to prove ones truth, true, but rather to discover the truth.

  • Well you lied in a comment you apparently removed..I can't find it. You said :

    ---

    first, internet has not existed for 22 years, so I'd say you are the one attempting to deceive. Second, if you believe there is a difference between santa and a god you are hilariously dim.

    ----

    1) Look on google groups. Activity on the newsgroups has been happening since 1983 or so. The "net" I said. We called it internet. Some called it usenet in the mid 80's.

    2) Let's talk santa vs. God

  • according to wikipedia the internet went public in 1989. i was wrong, but did not lie. lying would imply that i new the truth.

    Yeah, you have an interpersonal relationship with your own brain, not a god you schizo.

    "the invisble and the non existant look very much alike"

  • Baby/bathwater fallacy. You presumed about the age of the internet. You presume that because SOME people exhibit schizo behavior while claiming to know God that ALL must be schizo if they know God.

    Don't you learn from your mistakes? Presumption makes you look foolish. I've never needed any stupid meds. I treat people rightly in business and play and you..are an insulting jerk to call me 'schizo'.

    So waht does that make you? A moron? What?

  • you're right it is silly to say something does exist, doesn't exist, or isn't knowable when there is no evidence for it period. a book written by an uneducated society which gives claims but no scientific evidence is very silly indeed.

    you can sit here and talk till your blue about how you know there is this or that, but you are a nobody with opinions, not evidence, so it won't impress me.

  • Many cultures (see book called gnomes, elves and trolls or some such thing by secular author) have a 'santa' like character..very remote cultures. Since the MO is the same as Satan tempting people to know 'good/evil' for themselves, I think these were demonic manifestations. Think whatever you like. Meanwhile I have a personal relationship with a God of love. You can too if you humble yourself and stop thinking an argument from ignorance is supreme.