If you have a loved one that received a heart transplant,thank the south african surgeon who devised it and achieved it in the 70's.Despite all what you say ,this was all credit to the white south africans who had no intention but building a safe and strong economic country.
really?and where was USA holding their righteous ground in zimbabwe while the white farmers were being slaughtered in the genocide?In Africa we on our own,which is why our fathers and grandfathers did what they did to build this country to what it is currently,only an idiot would protest to that.
Before the Americans criticise,take a look at your own society,its infected with corruption from the roots out.Most of your military technology was bought from South African Military scientests back in the 70's and 80's namely the G5 cannon used on majority of tanks,the HUD inside aircrafts,the helmet hud controlling the cannone on your apache helis which was devised on our helicopters,30 years later it is still ranked in top5 most effective assault helicopters.
I dont generally get involved in petty little arguments, but I really feel the need to ask "TheMoonbeam40" Where on this gods green earth did you get your info from ?? I happened to have spent a fair amount of time in South West Africa (Now Namibia)and the Caprivi strip and was there for some pretty major op's through the late 70's to mid 80's ... My advise to you is to go do a little research and then try shooting your mouth off ...
Dankie vir ELKE LIEWE suurstof dief TERORIS wat julle dood geskiet het, oor gery het of wat ook al, ons is julle als verskuldig en julle is ware helde. Die buiteland dink ons het die arime goet uitgemoor wat kamistig OORSPRONKLIK van suiderlike afrika is... nie tog net so veel soos ons nie?! DANKIE SANDF!!!!!!!!!!
@53Africa Yes, of course. Like raping and impaling that Swedish Missionary before killing her along with her fellow missionaries and setting the mission alight, for an example. Remember that? Ovamboland? You piece of rabid shit!
@Fire12318? I was there and I am still here u moron.We did not rape any Swedish Missionaries unless they where cooperation with the SADF pretending 2be partners with boars.
@53Africa "unless they where cooperation with the SADF pretending 2be partners with boars." I rest my case, Your Honour. Of course you did not rape anybody
@submariner200 Oct 87-June88 Angola( S.AFRICAN liberation forces, supported by CUBAN troops humiliated South African defense forces SADR. when they trashed them at the battle of CUITO CUANAVALA Which signaled the end of apartheid + independence for S. Africa ! Cuban troops who died at that battle were buried with honer at the wall of freedom park Pretoria where names are carved. Afro-Cubans helped liberate the countries from were their ancestors were stolen from.
@TheMOONBEAM40 LOL you really are clueless, SA caused such a humiliating defeat on cuba that castro executed his general, took over command himself and sent in an extra 15000 soldiers to bost his force of allready 30000 soldier, all this because 3000 southa frican kicked his ares... after that he agreed to ALL terms SA had asked for and he was forced to remove all his soldiers from Angola, it was such a defeat russian gave up supporting him. Cuba lost thousands of troops SA 21
@Ghoulza The Cuban General you refer to, was tried and executed for betraying one of the ideals of the Revolution . He was dealing in large amounts of class A drugs . It was a real tragic case because not only was he a highly decorated officer he was also a friend of the Cuban President . Seeing the countless deaths + mayhem drugs have caused in many nations . He had no choice ! Nevertheless it shows the mans integrity .
@babblesab1 Good name for you BABBLER ? check out the real facts on WIKIPEDIA It MAY enlighten you !! South Africa now have their INDEPENDENCE sadf forces are no-more . But if you have been subjected to decades of misinformation .It wont happen overnight .
@babblesab1 Don't know about you ! But his troops helped liberation forces send S.A.D.F back from the Namibian/Angola border. The turning point in the struggle for independence according to the A. N.C check it out ! Its in the historic records .
@Qinguana sadistic mercenaries fighting alongside apartheid forces( Angola) who murdered 12 Brits who realized too late, what they had let themselves in for
+ 1000s of African villages . 12g shotguns were tested on their own troops.(shot gun charlie) Gearheart US, Callan UK. + dozens more faced trial in Havana ( after defeat by Cuban backed freedom fighters) before INTERNATIONAL observers The worst psychopaths faced a firing squad !
Where u from? Ayvean, America? Or Russia the Cubans tried but failed, I don't know where you get your history?! we won the Angolan wars, You right ones talking, look at your own countries before judging South Africa, we were surrounded by enemies at the time payed by Russians to cause as much chaos as possible, we were conscripted into the army to defend our country, you guys join up so you can steal the resources of others, for oil profit! You two faced, before you go making remarks about Sout
@Qinguana True! You were surrounded by enemies ! Millions of Africans who were treated in a bad way by Europeans armed with firearms who had taken THEIR country .When the indigenous people got firearms ,They took it back.! Happened all over ! China took Hong kong back. India took their Country back etc etc etc
@TheMOONBEAM40 Hong Kong was given back to China, you silly shit. You communist immigrant. I love how you immigrants go to white people countries and then sit in their wealth and yet hate them. Go back to your own country.
@TheMOONBEAM40 Hey Fuck Nut Hong Kong was given back As for India that was handed back too, I go to India often and I have to say, They could care less for each other. Hey Moon FUCK , I was in China last week have you been there?? I do hope you reside in peace ,you fucking wanker.
@TheMOONBEAM40 You forgot to mention which tribe you were from and what area you are in now,and thats relevant diff tribes where in diff areas and if you in the wrong area for your tribe then you also need to "give back" your piece of land.... you also dont mention the San people (bushman) .. what have you "millions of africans" are doing about them .... Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house dim-wit.
@Qinguana you won? haha I guess that whole death of apartheid thing must've passed you by. Get real son. Just because the SADF won a lot of tactical battles, that doesnt mean they won the war....bit like the Nazis in Russia.
the injustice and murder of human life……. And in return, freedom? Freedom from what? In the face of my 19 year olds perception of life there is no justification for violence on any level or any scale. God forgive us all! For those whom have gone home whilst their sun was still shining, we love you, we remember you in our hearts and in our thoughts, For those left behind I pray for your emotional and spiritual healing Amen
We finally slept for a day after being in theater for 9 days and 8 nights only to be awakened again to prepare for yet another amputation. However devastating and emotionally crippling and pointless the death of a child was, I think that those who returned in a body bag, were the blessed ones. They, the brave soldiers, filled up the little hero’s acres in almost every little town by whatever name. Today I cry silently for them and their loved ones deep within my spirit being at the waste!
I witnessed mangled bodies, maimed young faces, limbless torsos and somewhere from inside those broken bodies, I heard the tearless cries from broken hearts and broken spirits. God, I would think and pray, “What is the purpose meaning and significance of all this disfiguration and pointless untimely deaths?….. only to be interrupted by a radio signaling yet another landmine explosion. There was little time for the beer tent and idle chats with fellow mates.
During 1975/76 I was obedient to the call of the SADF to do by bit for my country as a medic. I was 19 at the time and though I never entered the danger zone, I certainly did experience the brutal hell of it and witnessed the distraught emotional consequences of the continuous line of “casavacs” (casualty evacuations) that made their way through the boarder hospital before being sent to larger hospitals back to the States (a name given to South Africa by the SA troops)
It was called the rooi gevaar because your "liberation movements" were in fact communist terrorist movements, the exact opposite of liberation movements....
Calling the unit a " death squad" is inaccurate and inappropriate. Perhaps it is a lack of vocabulary in post-heroic societies that makes it difficult for people to describe military matters factually. Or perhaps it is vindictiveness, maybe just stupidity. Koevoet was a fine unit, fighting an insurgency. Allegations of war crimes were repeatedly investigated and found to be unsubstantiated or grossly exaggerated.
@Mr25Charlie. Couldn't say it better. Note how they are skipping the part that the people whom Koevoet fought were actually Communists terrorizing the civilian populations euphemistically calling them "liberation movements".
@Mr25Charlie O.k! How about a feared brutalized unit of uneducated black troops led by racist white men who believed the vast majority of the indigenous population should be denied their rights to independence from a apartheid colonial administration . The name CROWBAR sums it up !! .Unyielding heavy cold length of hardened steel . Used against a people that wanted to be free from arrogant settlers.
@Fire12318 understand where your coming from ! But the TRUTH IS the first CASUALTY in war , South Africans fought for what they believed in a brutal war , I respect the ordinary men/women who suffered.. But as a Historian who has studied accounts from all sides,not just ONE account. What I say.Is true Lots .GIs who fought in Vietnam returned to ask forgiveness of the people for atrocities committed when they were brain washed in places like Fort Bragg ETC I forgive you ! lol
@TheMOONBEAM40 U don't understand shit! I agree about the " Truth casualty'. Then again, it takes a special kind of idiot like you to believe all that propaganda crap dished up by the terrorist forces (not liberation armies) MPLA, SWAPO. Some kind of historian you are. I was there. I saw what happened. I know what we did and why we did it. I don't need your or anybody else's forgiveness. Don't compare this to Vietnam. This was a lot closer to home for us than Vietnam to the Americans.
@Fire12318 US. Crocker did NOT negotiate exit 4 SADF after they were cut off from Namibian bases by Cubans. Mandela is NOT free. Angola ,Namibia + S Africa are NOT independent. SADF has NOT been disbanded . Redcoats are STILL fighting Zulus . You are STILL crossing the Blood River with your oxen . Time to WAKE UP bwana and take YOUR MEDICINE . men in WHITE COATS ARE COMING !!
@TheMOONBEAM40 By the looks of it you were not there. You will never know what really happened. It seems that most of your research comes from the university of Wikipedia. If not, go demand your money back from where ever you studied to be a "historian". They fed you a fart.
Go and have a look at Bok van Blerk's emotional tribute to the young men who gave everything to keep a nation safe. lgpRvmIPS6U
3MINUTEFILM 1 week ago
Any one from 7sai , the train ride to pala ?
smeggerss 1 week ago
If you have a loved one that received a heart transplant,thank the south african surgeon who devised it and achieved it in the 70's.Despite all what you say ,this was all credit to the white south africans who had no intention but building a safe and strong economic country.
tyronzn 2 weeks ago
@tyronzn THE USA HELPED UNITA fact
smeggerss 1 week ago
really?and where was USA holding their righteous ground in zimbabwe while the white farmers were being slaughtered in the genocide?In Africa we on our own,which is why our fathers and grandfathers did what they did to build this country to what it is currently,only an idiot would protest to that.
tyronzn 4 days ago
@tyronzn ok usa didn't arm unita
smeggerss 3 days ago
Before the Americans criticise,take a look at your own society,its infected with corruption from the roots out.Most of your military technology was bought from South African Military scientests back in the 70's and 80's namely the G5 cannon used on majority of tanks,the HUD inside aircrafts,the helmet hud controlling the cannone on your apache helis which was devised on our helicopters,30 years later it is still ranked in top5 most effective assault helicopters.
tyronzn 2 weeks ago
I dont generally get involved in petty little arguments, but I really feel the need to ask "TheMoonbeam40" Where on this gods green earth did you get your info from ?? I happened to have spent a fair amount of time in South West Africa (Now Namibia)and the Caprivi strip and was there for some pretty major op's through the late 70's to mid 80's ... My advise to you is to go do a little research and then try shooting your mouth off ...
cliffmarais 3 weeks ago
Dankie vir ELKE LIEWE suurstof dief TERORIS wat julle dood geskiet het, oor gery het of wat ook al, ons is julle als verskuldig en julle is ware helde. Die buiteland dink ons het die arime goet uitgemoor wat kamistig OORSPRONKLIK van suiderlike afrika is... nie tog net so veel soos ons nie?! DANKIE SANDF!!!!!!!!!!
Roelf126 3 weeks ago
Koevoet did a job that needed doing. Los die Manne uit, hulle het goed gedoen.
macumuzahn 2 months ago 2
@macumuzahn? Watse goet praat jy hoerder, ons van ANC, MPLA and SWAPO vegters het alles gedoen in die goedentireheid van almal
53Africa 1 month ago
@53Africa Yes, of course. Like raping and impaling that Swedish Missionary before killing her along with her fellow missionaries and setting the mission alight, for an example. Remember that? Ovamboland? You piece of rabid shit!
Fire12318 1 month ago
@Fire12318? I was there and I am still here u moron.We did not rape any Swedish Missionaries unless they where cooperation with the SADF pretending 2be partners with boars.
53Africa 1 month ago
@53Africa "unless they where cooperation with the SADF pretending 2be partners with boars." I rest my case, Your Honour. Of course you did not rape anybody
Fire12318 1 month ago
@macumuzahn Did you ever work at the ovens in Auschwitz ?
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Lol, typical commie attitude. I bet you hate white people, but you have liberals to back your hate because it is good to hate whites.
Lachausis 1 month ago
this kak is fake i life in south africa and my dad told me what went on!!!! you all are liers
peklivanasnicos 2 months ago
The Cuban Castro commies got their asses KICKED!
submariner200 2 months ago 2
@submariner200 Oct 87-June88 Angola( S.AFRICAN liberation forces, supported by CUBAN troops humiliated South African defense forces SADR. when they trashed them at the battle of CUITO CUANAVALA Which signaled the end of apartheid + independence for S. Africa ! Cuban troops who died at that battle were buried with honer at the wall of freedom park Pretoria where names are carved. Afro-Cubans helped liberate the countries from were their ancestors were stolen from.
TheMOONBEAM40 2 months ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Only in your dreams Castro won in Cuito Cuanavale!
submariner200 2 months ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 LOL you really are clueless, SA caused such a humiliating defeat on cuba that castro executed his general, took over command himself and sent in an extra 15000 soldiers to bost his force of allready 30000 soldier, all this because 3000 southa frican kicked his ares... after that he agreed to ALL terms SA had asked for and he was forced to remove all his soldiers from Angola, it was such a defeat russian gave up supporting him. Cuba lost thousands of troops SA 21
Ghoulza 2 months ago 2
@Ghoulza The Cuban General you refer to, was tried and executed for betraying one of the ideals of the Revolution . He was dealing in large amounts of class A drugs . It was a real tragic case because not only was he a highly decorated officer he was also a friend of the Cuban President . Seeing the countless deaths + mayhem drugs have caused in many nations . He had no choice ! Nevertheless it shows the mans integrity .
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Get your facts straight before you post you idiot
babblesab1 1 month ago
@babblesab1 Good name for you BABBLER ? check out the real facts on WIKIPEDIA It MAY enlighten you !! South Africa now have their INDEPENDENCE sadf forces are no-more . But if you have been subjected to decades of misinformation .It wont happen overnight .
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Castro never defeated us
babblesab1 1 month ago
@babblesab1 Tell it to the South Africans /or the Cubans . lol
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@babblesab1 Don't know about you ! But his troops helped liberation forces send S.A.D.F back from the Namibian/Angola border. The turning point in the struggle for independence according to the A. N.C check it out ! Its in the historic records .
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
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ktmmadness 2 months ago
If those okes were after you, it would have been a good time to kiss the family goodbye
goonerfromjhb 2 months ago
(continued) You two faced, before you go making remarks about South Africa look at yourselves. And by the way doos Cubans were shit scared of us FACT
Qinguana 2 months ago 3
@Qinguana sadistic mercenaries fighting alongside apartheid forces( Angola) who murdered 12 Brits who realized too late, what they had let themselves in for
+ 1000s of African villages . 12g shotguns were tested on their own troops.(shot gun charlie) Gearheart US, Callan UK. + dozens more faced trial in Havana ( after defeat by Cuban backed freedom fighters) before INTERNATIONAL observers The worst psychopaths faced a firing squad !
TheMOONBEAM40 2 months ago
Where u from? Ayvean, America? Or Russia the Cubans tried but failed, I don't know where you get your history?! we won the Angolan wars, You right ones talking, look at your own countries before judging South Africa, we were surrounded by enemies at the time payed by Russians to cause as much chaos as possible, we were conscripted into the army to defend our country, you guys join up so you can steal the resources of others, for oil profit! You two faced, before you go making remarks about Sout
Qinguana 2 months ago 12
@Qinguana True! You were surrounded by enemies ! Millions of Africans who were treated in a bad way by Europeans armed with firearms who had taken THEIR country .When the indigenous people got firearms ,They took it back.! Happened all over ! China took Hong kong back. India took their Country back etc etc etc
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Hong Kong was given back to China, you silly shit. You communist immigrant. I love how you immigrants go to white people countries and then sit in their wealth and yet hate them. Go back to your own country.
Lachausis 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 Hey Fuck Nut Hong Kong was given back As for India that was handed back too, I go to India often and I have to say, They could care less for each other. Hey Moon FUCK , I was in China last week have you been there?? I do hope you reside in peace ,you fucking wanker.
MegaBravo19 4 weeks ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 You forgot to mention which tribe you were from and what area you are in now,and thats relevant diff tribes where in diff areas and if you in the wrong area for your tribe then you also need to "give back" your piece of land.... you also dont mention the San people (bushman) .. what have you "millions of africans" are doing about them .... Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house dim-wit.
cliffmarais 3 weeks ago
@Qinguana you won? haha I guess that whole death of apartheid thing must've passed you by. Get real son. Just because the SADF won a lot of tactical battles, that doesnt mean they won the war....bit like the Nazis in Russia.
4exgold 6 days ago
the injustice and murder of human life……. And in return, freedom? Freedom from what? In the face of my 19 year olds perception of life there is no justification for violence on any level or any scale. God forgive us all! For those whom have gone home whilst their sun was still shining, we love you, we remember you in our hearts and in our thoughts, For those left behind I pray for your emotional and spiritual healing Amen
jthornejnr 3 months ago
@jthornejnr Stay away from the movies for awhile.
Fire12318 1 month ago
We finally slept for a day after being in theater for 9 days and 8 nights only to be awakened again to prepare for yet another amputation. However devastating and emotionally crippling and pointless the death of a child was, I think that those who returned in a body bag, were the blessed ones. They, the brave soldiers, filled up the little hero’s acres in almost every little town by whatever name. Today I cry silently for them and their loved ones deep within my spirit being at the waste!
jthornejnr 3 months ago
I witnessed mangled bodies, maimed young faces, limbless torsos and somewhere from inside those broken bodies, I heard the tearless cries from broken hearts and broken spirits. God, I would think and pray, “What is the purpose meaning and significance of all this disfiguration and pointless untimely deaths?….. only to be interrupted by a radio signaling yet another landmine explosion. There was little time for the beer tent and idle chats with fellow mates.
jthornejnr 3 months ago
During 1975/76 I was obedient to the call of the SADF to do by bit for my country as a medic. I was 19 at the time and though I never entered the danger zone, I certainly did experience the brutal hell of it and witnessed the distraught emotional consequences of the continuous line of “casavacs” (casualty evacuations) that made their way through the boarder hospital before being sent to larger hospitals back to the States (a name given to South Africa by the SA troops)
jthornejnr 3 months ago
It was called the rooi gevaar because your "liberation movements" were in fact communist terrorist movements, the exact opposite of liberation movements....
uzziah120000 4 months ago
Calling the unit a " death squad" is inaccurate and inappropriate. Perhaps it is a lack of vocabulary in post-heroic societies that makes it difficult for people to describe military matters factually. Or perhaps it is vindictiveness, maybe just stupidity. Koevoet was a fine unit, fighting an insurgency. Allegations of war crimes were repeatedly investigated and found to be unsubstantiated or grossly exaggerated.
Mr25Charlie 6 months ago 16
@Mr25Charlie. Couldn't say it better. Note how they are skipping the part that the people whom Koevoet fought were actually Communists terrorizing the civilian populations euphemistically calling them "liberation movements".
specialforcesvideos 4 months ago
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McBad48 3 months ago
@specialforcesvideos Cuba expels greedy South Africa.
Ayvean 3 months ago
@Mr25Charlie O.k! How about a feared brutalized unit of uneducated black troops led by racist white men who believed the vast majority of the indigenous population should be denied their rights to independence from a apartheid colonial administration . The name CROWBAR sums it up !! .Unyielding heavy cold length of hardened steel . Used against a people that wanted to be free from arrogant settlers.
TheMOONBEAM40 2 months ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 What the hell are you smoking! Your own socks?
Fire12318 2 months ago
@Fire12318 understand where your coming from ! But the TRUTH IS the first CASUALTY in war , South Africans fought for what they believed in a brutal war , I respect the ordinary men/women who suffered.. But as a Historian who has studied accounts from all sides,not just ONE account. What I say.Is true Lots .GIs who fought in Vietnam returned to ask forgiveness of the people for atrocities committed when they were brain washed in places like Fort Bragg ETC I forgive you ! lol
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 U don't understand shit! I agree about the " Truth casualty'. Then again, it takes a special kind of idiot like you to believe all that propaganda crap dished up by the terrorist forces (not liberation armies) MPLA, SWAPO. Some kind of historian you are. I was there. I saw what happened. I know what we did and why we did it. I don't need your or anybody else's forgiveness. Don't compare this to Vietnam. This was a lot closer to home for us than Vietnam to the Americans.
Fire12318 1 month ago
@Fire12318 US. Crocker did NOT negotiate exit 4 SADF after they were cut off from Namibian bases by Cubans. Mandela is NOT free. Angola ,Namibia + S Africa are NOT independent. SADF has NOT been disbanded . Redcoats are STILL fighting Zulus . You are STILL crossing the Blood River with your oxen . Time to WAKE UP bwana and take YOUR MEDICINE . men in WHITE COATS ARE COMING !!
TheMOONBEAM40 1 month ago
@TheMOONBEAM40 By the looks of it you were not there. You will never know what really happened. It seems that most of your research comes from the university of Wikipedia. If not, go demand your money back from where ever you studied to be a "historian". They fed you a fart.
Fire12318 4 weeks ago