Mozart Piano Concerto 20 (1/4) On Period Instruments

[erken]

Even the standardized 440 sounds different . . .

[samdrophy]

Do you think you could upload these guys' recording of K. 491 as well? Thanks so much!

[alexilmagnifico]

very poor conducting....

:/

[mrbrianmccarthy]

Many people feel that Beethoven was the first Romantic,but they're Wrong!MOZART was the first Romantic!!Beethoven merely picked up where Mozart had left off!Had Mozart lived longer, we would've seen a LOT more dramatic minor key works.Sadly,in Mozarts time,the people he played for (The nobility/upper classes)liked Major key music.--They werent too fond of the minor. THATS why Mozart didnt do more minor works,and thats what makes THIS concerto so revolutionary.

[JairCrawford]

@mrbrianmccarthy I know, right? I love Mozart's more dark and dramatic works, like this one. But he wrote so few of them.

[mrbrianmccarthy]

Beethovens favorite mozart concerto,Mendelssohns as well--All of Mozarts piano concertos are good music,but this one is special. personally,I think Mozart knew his Dad was coming,and he wanted to show him how much better he had gotten since he had left Salzburg. And he knew his Dad was a tough critic. (haha) So he put a lot into this one,and it shows. This one REALLY Had a BIG influence on Beethoven--In fact,its safe to say that this piece was a model for many of Beethoven's compositions.

[erken]

@mrbrianmccarthy Actually, it is safer to say that Beethoven based most pieces and styles from Clementi. What Beethoven did is he kept this in his repertoire (thus the most famous cadenzas used by most pianists). And Mozart adopted styles from others, Haydn, Clementi and such. And with Beethoven -- he actually did experiment with the acoustics of his piano (hence the senza sordini instruction in his Op. 27 no. 2 Sonata), unlike Mozart that cared for the notes rather than the capacities of sound.

[mrbrianmccarthy]

@erken Your comment on Mozart "Only caring for the notes rather than the capacity for sound" is COMPLETELY INCORRECT.Mozart knew all about the "Capacity for sound" of every instrument.THATS why he was such a great orchestrator.And yes,Beethoven loved Clementi,and learned some pianistic tricks from him,but he REVERED Mozart.He copied Mozart scores BY HAND,note for note,and used mozarts motifs in his own music. Mozart influenced Beethoven in every area of music,espicially in the piano concerto.

[erken]

@mrbrianmccarthy What I meant with the "notes rather than [ . . . ] sound" is -- observe Mozart: Most Mozart cannot be played without dampers. He almost always plays without the pedal, much like Rachmaninoff to show superior technique. You can't see dissonance in Mozart's music (even the meterless cadenzas in his K. 397 fantasia and the long quasi-cadenza on K. 271's 3rd movement -- those are to be played with dampers even through the e Cdim6 arpeggio).

[Mercer1012]

Where's the pic from?

[elias12186]

From the documentary on BBC about mozart, the 3rd one, Mozart the first romantic

[pinznrom]

Thanks for uploading: I had this Phillips CD but gave it away as a present to a dear friend. It's not only on period instruments but also a live recording, which makes it an astonishing document of virtuosity on the one hand, but as requiem points out the fortepiano fades in the tutti passages. Not because of the fp itself but because of the recording technique at that concert. Would you kindly post K. 491? I love Gibbons' cadenza. By the way: correct K. 467, those aren't period instruments!

[Mozartmostly]

@Mercer1012 It's a picture of Mozart on the opening night of the Concerto, taken on Feb. 14th 1788.

[Mercer1012]

@Mozartmostly Oh haha, you are SO funny. I see your joke there! Its funny because there was no camera back then (sarcasm). I was merely asking what movie/show the picture was from and I have since found it.

[KarlAmade]

Oh come on, lets walk a crusade against modernists :,)

I'm sick of they being considered, by the weak public, as playing the music correctly.. they are actually doing musical harm on us >:(

Hail periodic music, and destroy the reign of the fascists, as in the magic flute; the hypocrites!!!

[Mercer1012]

Love it! This is my favorite Mozart piano concerto. I am learning the second movement as a matter of fact. I also love the period instruments.

[requiemaeternam7]

jesus you can't even hear the piano under the orchestra. proves that the modern piano is quite a bit more powerful and in many cases wasn't meant to be used for certain stuff from this era

[elias12186]

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[requiemaeternam7]

i liked it very much though. thank you for uploading. I think what I was trying to say came out wrong. I much prefer this period version. My favorite Mozart concerto is the 23 in A, my favorite performance of it is one on period instruments as well with a fortepiano as that is how it was meant to be played.

[elias12186]

Great, period instruments are the best for Mozart. The piano and orchestra should be pretty well balanced, one shouldn't overwhelm the other.

[requiemaeternam7]

yes. I think what I was trying to say is that the modern giant grand piano is often times too over whelming and at first my ears were shocked by this video because I'm not used to the sound of the keyboard being somewhat over powered by the orchestra, it's not perfect but it's a better balance I think and I like the timbre of the fortepiano much more for this sort of piece as the grand piano sustain peddle muddles up the intricate and pearly runs of Mozart way too much

[mrbrianmccarthy]

You're absolutely correct! I love hearing Mozart played on period instruments,espicially with the original piano,because you can hear it the way HE heard it. When these concertos are played on a modern grand,the little fills that Mozart wrote come out too loudly,and Mozart never wanted them to be heard that way,as a solo! They were meant to be part of the background.! And with the original piano,you hear the Orchestra parts better,BECAUSE the piano is weaker.

[udilio]

bello!!!!

un piacere!!!!!

[teunfaber]

Thank you for posting this concerto. Wonderful :)

[leonardocello]

Marvelous! Excelent posting, too. It loads so fast. =]