J. Krishnamurti: The Nature Of Thought: Part 1(of 6)

[snoo333]

very funny that i stopped at 2:45 because i could not take it anymore. woody allen would have by now asked his first question. this is not an interview but a lecture to the master.

[Pedronomad2008]

@nivak11 : lol ..Yes it did take 2:46 min to DEFINE the question. This is SOOOOOOO typically French!!! U don't just ASK a question, first you show off all yr knowledge...;-) ...Then, IF there is something left to be said, you give a few seconds to yr interviewee to answer... I thought J. was meditating instead of listening...

[hootiepaladin]

Man, I thought K was going to break it down in French.

[rideforever]

Osho's view on JK, was that he was a very great teacher but he did not concern himself with techniques. He spoke the truth, but perhaps because he had not needed them did not concern himself with the techniques to take a deluded man into the light. Osho on the other hand concerned himself with creating his many techniques.

[arthursaey]

Si seulement J.K. avait été mon grand-père....

[prashilgautam]

thats good

[brianjsmith1895]

hi. you asked, "can i just be aware of any movement of 'me' ?" The answer must be no. For a brief moment perhaps, but the 'me' soon dominates us again. The 'I' in our consciousness is another fragment of the 'me'. The machine is very cunning, we cannot overcome it by mental attributes. Humanity has proven this over eons. The problem is essentially physical, nDNA, so the solution must be physical. The Thymus Gland must reactivate. Only then can the human be truly alive.

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 Sir, what you said about DNA is the science, and i am so ignorant in those matter.as i am bad in english. physical solution is what?! what is the physic? witch kind of problem we talking about? personally i dont run behind any solution, because i am not sure to understood the root of our problem. the problem can be the "me" but how can i go into it? how can i know my self? it is the serious question sir, don't runing in all way for the solution? solution of what?! Best Regards.

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 No sir: the problem is our consciousness.The new consciousness is necessary. But it can just take the place, when the old is ended. "me" is our consciousness. obviously. your conscious is not separate of you. you are your consciousness. then i must enquire if it is possible, the "me" which is my consciousness, with the whole content become to end. if you said no or yes, it is finish. that is what we doing anyhow. our back ground, our measurement respond with the particular view

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 The big trap is constant movement of "me". the question is there: can the me, my constant movement of thought, come to end? please Sir! dont say yes or no, because any answer to this question still is "me". so: i dont know any things, and probably it is not possible to describe some thing original with the words. probably when the "me" come to end,"nothing ness" is there. what will happen, may be happen in this state. of sur "noting ness" can not be a state. but we have talk...

[talktokourosh]

Respond to this video... 3...But we have talk together. the words isn t important at all. one fact is sure: you become absolutely alone. there is not the words and the words have not value at all. then you come alive with the immeasurable dimension of love and compassion. Best Regards.

[brianjsmith1895]

@talktokourosh My friend, everything you have said has been said, by K, for 50 years or so. It didn't work. He said so himself. Biologists say that we are 'slave-robots of a selfish, greedy, survival machine'. nDNA. In the light of these scientific discoveries, surely we must look again at the problem of our suffering, taking nDNA into account. There can be no 'new' consciousness without a physical change. Both must arise together, or we are again deluded.

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 So Dear, There is nothing more to say. what you mean of didn't work,,, i don't know. may you are waiting for another amusement and a new condition. Yes, He said so: one wants to throw the seeds of these teachings all over the world, that is the responsibility. it does'nt matter who understand or who does'nt understand but it is one's responsibility to sow the seed wherever it will fall on, on a piece of dry earth or in fertile soil. Great Regards with love & compassion.

[brianjsmith1895]

@talktokourosh ok, we'll leave it there. thank you for commenting in English, it must have been difficult for you. take care, and au revoir, mon ami !

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 Thank You to read my mutilate comment. Real communication is not dependence to language. But it was the first time that i staid close to the english dictionary ;-) je vous remerci infiniment pour l'agreable comments.

[talktokourosh]

of cours Dear friend: any attack to "me" is a commandment of "me".isn t so? But why one should, or one like to destroy "me"? the root of this desire isn t me? witch is in the search of the other form of "me"? are we together in this case? so: can i just be aware of any movement of "me"? just be aware. is there some perception in witch i be totaly awaer of holl movement of thought or "me"? witch is the same movement. Best Regards. "me"? what is the root of this desire

[brianjsmith1895]

K , on his deathbed, said " ....nobody has done it. Nobody." Why after 70 years of teaching had no one 'got it' ? Could it be that K was wrong in attributing the ROOT of the 'me' to Thought ? Biologists say our selfishness arises from nDNA, in our cells. Thought plays a major part, but may only be the 'instructions' to the brain from the 'selfish machine', nDNA.

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895 sir: how you know about him deathbed?! how you know that nobody got his teaching? maybe you are right: whom get his teaching become "nobody", be light to your self, forget k,n,x or z. sincerly yours.

[brianjsmith1895]

@talktokourosh From 'Krishnamurti' by Ravi Ravindra. p.45. 10 days before his death, he asked for a tape recorder. ".....but nobody has done it. Nobody. And that's that." I believe the tape is kept by the K Centre in Brockwood. Buddha is believed to have said something similar at his death. "You're not there yet, keep trying," kind of thing. K was, in my view, the greatest teacher since Buddha, but they themselves said we didn't understand what they were saying. Why ?

[talktokourosh]

@brianjsmith1895

Dear friend: even if they said those things, they were caught in the trap of them measurements. isn'n so? i dont know any things about buddha, i heard krishnaji, i dont accept any things of any body, then i must enquire to understand how can i be free of evry things to be able to regards and to approach the truth (if there is some things whitch call truth) but as long as there is "me", it s not possible to look or feel witch is completly out of measure and limites. sincerly urs

[brianjsmith1895]

@talktokourosh Yes, my friend, i agree. As long as the 'me' controls us, we are lost. My point is this : The 'me' cannot be destroyed. It is rooted in the eukaryotic cell, in nDNA, and arises in mind as 'thought'. Unless we approach it in this manner, as a physical entity, we will never escape its domination. There is another organelle in the cell, called mitochondria. We are not only one thing, nDNA, we are two. When this is realised, only then can we 'come alive'.

[SikhiArt]

That was a good question 2:46 long.

[popote35]

REALITY WAS NOW

[melTorino]

J. Krishnamurti is one of the greatest thinkers in the history of humanity, if not the greatest. His teachings have a life to them that is apparent to me when I live them, and not just theoretically consider them. They have helped me realize more than anything else I have ever read or experienced.

[yogiloco108]

... greatest "thinkers"? I don't know that I would use that word but I certainly think that he is one of the greatest teachers of mankind, right along with Buddha and Christ. While Truth may be a Pathless land I find my Buddhist path very enjoyable. That I feel safe following it is really because of Krishnaji.

[yogiloco108]

... greatest "thinkers"? I don't know that I would use that word but I certainly think that he is one of the greatest teachers of mankind, right along with Buddha and Christ. While Truth may be a Pathless land I find my Buddhist path very enjoyable. That I feel safe following it is really because of Krishnaji.

[melTorino]

@yogiloco108 Well, whatever term you wish to use. If we're playing the semantics game, "greatest perceiver" might be a more apt description.

I don't understand your last two statements. You seem to contradict yourself. You say "Truth may be a Pathless land" but then follow that with "I find my Buddhist path very enjoyable". Do you see the fact that their is no method, no path to Truth, and that it is not a fixed point? What does enjoyment, pleasure have to do with reality/truth?

[YtubeUserr]

Jean-Louis Dewez carried the conversation in the right way! Superb!

[human2011able]

Infinite Thanks & A Humble Request to Everyone : Let Us put as Many Talks/Videos of J.K. as possible on Youtube. To Understand Yourself is to Understand What J.K. Talks! Once K said "The Enemy is Not the Other.......The Enemy is You......."

[aheadatime]

@cloudincloudout

I have thought the same thing, but come to realize i was wrong. Realizations happen without ideas. If i were to observe a starving person extend his hands, i would without ideas or thought proceed to put food into them. And it is in this way that the realization has come fourth without the idea or thought of what was/is happening. I label such realizations as feelings. You feel, you know, what should be done, without intellectualizing the scenario, or creating ideas.

[cloudincloudout]

I love Krishnamurti and his mind, but I think my main disagreement with his deflating of ideas is that he seems to limit ideas to short term, tip-of-the-ice-berg realm. I believe (and I could be wrong) that ideas delve deep into us beyond consciousness. For instance Krishnamurti himself "believes" that the world needs change. That's an idea that motivates him. It's not shallow. It's not on the surface so to speak. It's a realization, but a realization does not come about without an idea.

[JazzyKat2009]

This is an amazing interview. The guy interviewing K is so genuine, you can see he really wants to learn, he is not hard headed, he listens and so he learns. Take for example that annoying buddhist monk in another interview, who seemed to only want to plug holes in what K was saying. He did not have an open mind as this great interviewer does. Good stuff and one of my favourite of K's interviews.

[wchillman11]

At least Krishnamurti had the intelligence to speak in English.

[MrJiddukrishhesse]

krishnaji spoke english,french and italian!!!

[DYNODRUM]

He lived among English aristocracy when younger ,when he was perceived by them to be a forerunner in their folly.s ,He is Indian .England Ran through India bigtime ,he also apeaks French ,which makes this a weird interview s He answers in English which is easier and thankful...

[MrSkinless]

Why does J.K sound very oddily english? He doesn't sound like this in any other of the videos?!

[dougmarkham]

Voice sounds lower, slightly congested. It is possible that he's had a sore throat.

[punk2116]

Wowowow !! Krishnamurti speaks french ? I had no idea ! Tu m'étonneras toujours ! Dude, your page has so many great interviews. Fantastic, just fantastic.

[katioushcka]

uau simply brought tears to my eyes- soulagement c'est un bon mot :) this dialogue is really effortless for both of them and so for me, Krishnamurti had sometimes such hard headed cospeakers.. so yes, thank you for posting!

[TakuinTube]

How many languages did K speak?

[kragnarok]

Thank you for posting.

[nivak11]

wow-the question took 2:46 to ask.

it takes a true master to be patient to listen and follow another person's thought.

[kinoatom]

thanx!!

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[plotyui]

Excellent Andrew!! Never seen this series before..Thank you!

[achusam]

Thank you for posting.

[jenni4jlss]

Thank you - to A. seastarwatcher :)

[samanofski]

Thanx for sharing, love to see more.