Bulldozer

[genYprogressive]

This crook belongs in jail with Tom Delay.

[wazo89]

the majority of britians are very happy with the nhs

its not perfect but its better than the health of your loved ones being based on how much money you have.

our taxes pay to save the lifes of my fellow countrymen and I am happy about that.

[hauskalainen]

watch?v=U0XCl6OHgiM

[jonathanwindham]

This video is very misleading, the public option being proposed in congress lets you choose to stay on your private insurance.

[mrakimbo]

Rick Scott is a liar, a cheat, and a thief. You're better off setting your wallet on fire than listening to that scum bag. He's lying, people. LYING!

[ChristineOutspoken]

CPR is a front for insurance companies. Rick Scott, CPR's front man, was involved in one of the nation's biggest health care fraud scandal. He is the LAST person I would look to for protecting patients.

[vrknoise]

Ninety percent of Americans believe the American health care system needs fundamental changes or needs to be completely rebuilt. Two-thirds of Americans believe the federal government should guarantee universal health care for all citizens. This group, "C4 Patients" wants to allow private insurance companies to continue charging whatever they want. The fact that they're afraid of competition proves they're over charging the market.

[vrknoise]

The United States is the only industrialized country in the world without a universal health insurance system.

More than 9 million children lack health insurance in America.

There are four times as many health care lobbyists in Washington as there are members of Congress.

[vrknoise]

Half of all bankruptcies are caused by medical bills. Three-quarters of those filings are people with health insurance. (source: Illness and Injury as Contributors to Bankruptcy, Himmelstein et al, Health Affairs, February 2, 2005.)

[vrknoise]

Administrative costs account for 31 percent of all health care expenditures in the United States. The average overhead for U.S. private health insurers is 11.7 percent; for Medicare, it is 3.6 percent; for Canadas national health insurance program, it is 1.3 percent.(source: Steffie Woolhandler, M.D., M.P.H., Terry Campbell, M.H.A., and David U. Himmelstein, M.D., Costs of Health Care Administration, N Engl J Med 2003;349:768-75.)

[hauskalainen]

This video is smoke and mirrors.

The current system has hundreds of CEOs with gilded pay checks and whose offices are full of people screening out the sick to keep the profits up for the shareholders and add NOTHING to the process of healing and caring.

No wonder the insurance companies are afraid! The people will choose what makes sense.

[hauskalainen]

No. There would be one extra choice! The choice of a public plan.

Yes, Lewin expected that 119 million people would exercise their free choice by switching from private to public insurance. That is free choice and competition.

The private insurance companies would only disappear if people stopped buying insurance from them.

Those that cannot compete on a level playing field won't don't deserve to survive.

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

That's not a level playing field.

[hauskalainen]

Congress has not yet even seen a bill yet so how can you say that?

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

Because, I'm going by the various gov't health care plans they've proposed and/or praised in the past. Besides, think about it: would you get a healthcare plan that you had to pay a premium for, or would you get one that OTHERS payed for? The only way the insurance companies could compete is to drop rates so low that it would be impossible to make a profit. Besides, why would you think they'd let YOU choose your doctor on THEIR dime? It'll be HMOs all over again.

[vrknoise]

Impossible to make a profit? Doubtful. Impossible to continue fleecing the public and getting rich off sick people, quite probable and hopefully true. If it's true the private health insurers can't compete with an affordable health care plan, then they either need to revamp their business model to be competitive or they should go away. If they "can't" compete with a FAIR plan, they're making too much money. Health care must be good for the people, not CEOs and stockholders.

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

Wow.... affordable? It's taxpayer funded. As in: EVERYBODY pays for it, whether they're sick a day in their life or not. Even if you go private, you STILL pay for the Government program. That's not level ground.

[vrknoise]

Right. We will pay less money annually for a program where less money goes to administrative costs, managers and middlemen. If you want to support a private healthcare company and pay the extra money, that's your choice. Otherwise, you pay less money and are able to see the same excellent doctors we already have. And if everyone is covered, then more money is saved from masses of uninsured patients who end up in the ER.

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

Uh-huh... except one problem: why should someone be forced to pay for something they may not want to participate in? And what makes you think they'll allow you to even choose your doctor or treatment? This is gonna be just like HMOs all over again, just wait and see. And when the government decides it's no longer worth the money to keep someone alive, then what?

[vrknoise]

What makes you think the government is going to act like a health insurance company, tell people who they can and cannot see and approve or deny coverage? Do you honestly think the current healthcare system in the US is okay?

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

No, but it needs REFORMED not trashed. And use your head, man. These are the people that consider people as nothing more than a resource. They're POLITICIANS, and to think they're after anything more than power is foolish. Once a resource is no longer useful, once it costs more than it brings in, what do they do? They eliminate it. You really don't remember HMOs, do you?

[vrknoise]

I know what an HMO is, but you haven't explained how all our healthcare practitioners are suddenly going to adopt an HMO model under this plan. I'm not patronizing you, I'm just asking. And yes I'm aware that there are problems in Washington, after all, there are four times as many health care lobbyists in Washington as there are members of Congress. So it's no surprise that although 60% of Americans want a single payer healthcare, Bernie Sanders is the only Senator supporting it.

[TheOriginaKrillinFan]

They're nto, the government is. IF the government decides that Dr. Joe can give you "adequite" treatment, and he's cheaper than Dr. Bob, even though you know Dr. bob gives superior care and he's your trusted family physician, they WILL send you to see Dr. Joe. They'll be trying to save wherever they can.

[hauskalainen]

If you think that your private insurance a allows you to go to the most expensive doctor and get the insurer to pay the bill, think again. It don't work like that. The doctor has to be on the insurers list. If he ain't on your insurers list, you can't them to pay for him. Private insurance does NOT allow you always to choose your own doctor. Nor should it..

[hauskalainen]

You are under a serious misconception. If its a level playing field, the government won't be able to use taxes to subsidize the public plan. It will have to break even or make a small surplus. If it cannot be run efficiently its prices will be higher than the competition and they may lose customers. Thats how competition works, Dummy. If you are right, the private plans will dominate. If not, they will lose market share.