Atheist Nightare Ravi Zacharias 3 Of 6

[Razua77]

Thanks for showing your stupidity; once again another religious person shows there no different than the atheist they accuse of being sooo evil. Appreciate your contributions.

[Razua77]

BTW That was to "thee(dumb)Prophet" his comment of stupidity was removed as I don't tolerant moronic behavior.

[theeProphet]

FYI; put an A in front of a word and it reverses the meaning, muse is to learn, Amuse is to UNlearn, gnostic is knowing, Agnostic is to NOT know anything, theist is to know God, Atheist is NOT know God, SO HOW CAN AN ATHEIST SAY WHATS WHAT ABOUT GOD?

[skittlesareyum48]

y do u call it the allen zone?

[Iamritee]

There is also the matter of people being cured of full blown Aids. And showing you their hosiptial reports, mentioning but one of hundreds of miraculous happenings. Then there's the false mircales you can withness on,Messages from Heaven. another documentary that show the satanic apparitions of Mary,non other than Queen of heaven,jeremiah chapter 44,the Pagan goddess.Funny how Christ warned us about these very happenings.eternal-productions­. org.2Thessalonians 2:9-12

[Iamritee]

My friend, i am not sure if you have seen the Transformation dvds ? sentinelgroup, dott org/vsg2400.asp worth a look before making any more statemants about modern day miracles. take care

[Razua77]

Thx 4 the invite but I'm not paying to watch a DVD full of claims. From the quick description of it the vid doesn't seem to deal w/ the challenge I posted regarding real miracles. If I can find some way to watch it 4 free I will. However I don't give much credence to a vid created by a religious group; I want unbias sources, in your face, and news stories. Until then I will continue w/ my stance on the subject.

[Iamritee]

No problem. I would post you a copy but i know i am a stranger to you so postal details would probably be out of the question, unless you can give me some address to post to you, write me at mynarrowpath at yaho comeee. You cant say the dvds are bias unless you have view them. otherwise everthing is bias that we dont view. these events have been viewed by the media, who have investigated these matters. anyway you would really have to see, before commenting.

[Razua77]

you can email me at razua10athotmaildotcom with the copy of the movie.

[Razua77]

When I said "bias" I am simply stating that I would rather see a video or news report from someone outside the organization, someone who is not in a situation where there is conflict of interest: ABC, NBC, CBS, NATGEO, Discovery, SciFi, etc. versus watching a video from a religious org.

[Razua77]

Yeah...just from quickly researching the web, the claims made by this vid do not deal with the real miracles I'm looking for outside scripture. I'm not caring about claims of: violence drops, no corruption, church increases, bigger vegetables, etc. There are even other Xtians that disagree w/ the claims that are made.

[Iamritee]

These viewing change even the hardest skeptic like leestrobel. com I am reading some of Grant R Jeffrey at the moment, The Next World War, and The Signature of God... There is something going on Razua77 i hope you look into the matters a little more, which i am sure you will. Take care. Moe

[Iamritee]

Are they Christians in the 1st place is always my question. I do really wonder about that. I tell you Razua, i am King skeptic myself, But when i take a look at the way the world is headed, i dont believe there has been a truer explaination of the way the world is going than the one found in the bible. 101 prophecys on eternal-productions. org gives quick reference to whats going on in the world today. It really is a mirror to reality. Anyhow, nice chatting to you, take care.. Moe

[Razua77]

In a quick summary: Universe (Effect) Is Not Known By Anyone. IF Universe is an effect then no one truly knows the cause. To assume god is wrong b/c there's no evidence of such unless circular logic is used. Even if it proved a superior entity over the universe it doesn't = religious/personal god let alone one particular religious god

[Razua77]

Yes..I have come across compassionate believers..even in the church I had left.

[Furiousblue42]

I am sorry that you were hurt in the church. I just want you to know that there are compassionate true belivers out there. I appreciate your responding to my replies. I respect that. I pray that you find the

answers you are looking for. Peace and Love.

[Furiousblue42]

He uses common fact and absolutes. And I know your going to call this "rhetoric," so have-at-it. Your PC,Your monitor, Your keyboard all are effect resulted from a cause. To say that they are not is non-scientific.Every thing on earth has a cause equal or greater than itself.

[Razua77]

I already deal with this cause-effect stuff in my "Universe At Large" video so I won't comment here about it. Even with your statement the greater than the universe does not prove god let alone the Xtian god.

[Furiousblue42]

Apologetics shed light on scripture,on occult Christianity, false doctrines ect. Well-known apologists

like CS Lewis (also not affiliated w/TBN)prooves in stark detail that an athiest cannot escape moral law, how science itself shows that the universe didn't just happen, and to dismis JESUS Christ you have to deem him either a liar or a lunitic....

"Mere Christianity" by CS Lewis.

[Razua77]

CS Lewis doesn't show how atheist cannot escape moral law accept to other Xtians. I don't know what science he claims says the universe didn't just happen but that's an issue i don't care about. Your last statement is a false dilemma and Xtians should stop repeating such a mantra.

[Furiousblue42]

To say that Christians hide under God is tired and weak.

Christianity does not give a believer a way to cope with

death but a way to overcome it. Listening to your video response,it seems that you may have been hurt bad by a church.

[Razua77]

I never said Xtians do, though there are many that came for that very reason. Overcome death, no proof of such. Hurt by a church, ages ago but that has NO bearing on my videos nor why I reject Xtiananity.

[Furiousblue42]

A good apolpogetic site is carm dot org it breaks down

what many of the Known religions and cults believe including Catholicsm which is contrary to the Biblical

world veiw. You should'nt bunch catholicism w/ the Christian world veiw. It's like saying Hip Hop and Gangsta Rap is the same. It's not.

[Razua77]

Zacharias being an expert apologist, well maybe so but he doesn't seem to offer much beyond the rhetoric that comes from a biased/narrow view that is Xtiananity. More than likely he is still under the trappings of the Catholicized Xtiananity that is actually contradictory to the very book it claims to follow.

[Furiousblue42]

Dr. Ravi Zacharias is a well known expert Apologist

and teacher. If you do your homework you will amazingly you will find that not only is he NOT affiliated with the "TBN televangelists" and at different times condems there innacurate teachings.

Futhermore as a young black man I am very much shocked

to see how many of us as a people are running from God. Here is the truth no one can ever object to never being sick a day in their life.We all will die

one day.

[Razua77]

I find it sad that black people (I believe as a result of the days in slavery) are so entrenched in god; not b/c they have examined the evidence but b/c of emotional attachment or having been raised in church.

YES...b/c I can observe, experience, and examine the issue I don't object to the fact that we get sick and one day we die. I have no issues with dying; unlike many (not u specifically) I don't hide under a 'god' to help me cope with an unescapable future.

[HC4D]

The videos were raptured! Praise Jesus! Hehe