not sure what that ark has to do with dispensations on earth. can you point it out to me, where is it? can you take a picture of it for me...if you look out the window...you will see jews. god mentions dozens of nations in scripture. and say i have a convenant with two nations. jews and arabs...none of the nations in the bible exist anymore....except the jews and the arabs....YOU: "well thats just a coincidence"
And Arnold Fruchtenbaum should read "Prophetic Toolchest for Dismantling the Dispensational Delusion" by D.S. Farris. (free online at HearingTheTruth . org) He would be VERY "afraid" to read them. ;) He'd also be afraid to read "Futurism's Incredible Journey" by Pastor Stephen Bohr, and "The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers" (4 Volume Set, 4000 pages) by Dr. LeRoy Edwin Froom (Church Historian) as well as Steve Wohlberg's "End-Time Delusions". ;)
@Lysimachus78 covenant theology is one of the newest fads for christians today....if 100 embrace after years of study....70% will dump it in the garbage. the other 30% are too prideful to take the crown that says "chosen" on it ... that they took off someone elses head to put it on their own. they dont like that idea!
"covenant theology is one of the newest fads for Christians today"? Might I remind you that NONE of our Reformers were Dispensationalists? John Nelson Darby was the father of Dispensationalism, LONG after the Reformers. Also, NONE of the Church fathers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Polycarp, Tertullian, etc. were Dispensational. ALL of them believed that Israel was realized in the Church in the New Testament era, and we have dozens of quotes from them to prove it.
@St Do realize that we as Adventists believe in "dispensations". But believing in "dispensations" is far different from being a "dispensationalist". It is the WAY you dispensationalists view these dispensations that is wrong. For example, you would like us to believe that the Ten Commandments were only for the Jewish dispensation & not for the Church. This is nothing but a doctrine of devils. (cont.)
(cont.) All the covenants were GRADUAL reintegrations of God's EVERLASTING COVENANT, for which the Ten Commandments were intrinsically a part of. All the dispensations were teaching lessons to bring humanity back into harmony with God's Law. All the dispensations were teaching devices to educate God's people the grand plan of salvation, and understand His Sanctuary which is in Heaven. (cont.)
(cont.) I've got gigantic wonderful news. The Heavenly Sanctuary which Christ Ministers before the Ark of the Covenant in heaven, with the original Tables of Stone encased on it, known as the "testimony" (See Revelation 11:19; 15:5) is not in any way tied to "dispensations". It is ETERNAL. Christ still mediates on behalf of sinners in heaven. This is why there is still Mercy and still Grace, as we come before God to confess our sins, and we have a Mediator.
Why dont you have a debate with Robert Mclaughlin of Grace Bible Church?
channels90 3 weeks ago
I appreciate your ministry Gary DeMar. But I don't like your criticism of libertarianism. I'm more of a Gary North guy. :)
hortulanus94 1 month ago
I'm not a preterism, rather a Historist, but I appreciate what Gary De Mar does.
FAITHandLOGIC 2 months ago
Thank you Gary DeMar for speaking the truth!
hortulanus94 2 months ago
not sure what that ark has to do with dispensations on earth. can you point it out to me, where is it? can you take a picture of it for me...if you look out the window...you will see jews. god mentions dozens of nations in scripture. and say i have a convenant with two nations. jews and arabs...none of the nations in the bible exist anymore....except the jews and the arabs....YOU: "well thats just a coincidence"
StLukey7 6 months ago
@StLukey7 Did God make a covenant with the Jews or with Israel? I am not aware of a Jewish one. Yeshua is Lord there is no Israel apart from Him.
TheOringinalBRad 5 months ago
Gary you should read Arnold Fruchtenbaum's books -- you might be "afraid" to read them. i can understand that as well :-)
celal777 1 year ago 2
@celal777
Hey, I can recommend you a good book - its called "A Study of Dispensationalism: and the 95 theses against it", by A.W.Pink.
Really good book.
Theres also a good article online called "AgainstDispensationalism [dot] com"
doctorh2005 1 year ago 2
@celal777
And Arnold Fruchtenbaum should read "Prophetic Toolchest for Dismantling the Dispensational Delusion" by D.S. Farris. (free online at HearingTheTruth . org) He would be VERY "afraid" to read them. ;) He'd also be afraid to read "Futurism's Incredible Journey" by Pastor Stephen Bohr, and "The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers" (4 Volume Set, 4000 pages) by Dr. LeRoy Edwin Froom (Church Historian) as well as Steve Wohlberg's "End-Time Delusions". ;)
Lysimachus78 1 year ago
@Lysimachus78 covenant theology is one of the newest fads for christians today....if 100 embrace after years of study....70% will dump it in the garbage. the other 30% are too prideful to take the crown that says "chosen" on it ... that they took off someone elses head to put it on their own. they dont like that idea!
StLukey7 6 months ago
@StLukey7
"covenant theology is one of the newest fads for Christians today"? Might I remind you that NONE of our Reformers were Dispensationalists? John Nelson Darby was the father of Dispensationalism, LONG after the Reformers. Also, NONE of the Church fathers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Polycarp, Tertullian, etc. were Dispensational. ALL of them believed that Israel was realized in the Church in the New Testament era, and we have dozens of quotes from them to prove it.
Lysimachus78 6 months ago
@St Do realize that we as Adventists believe in "dispensations". But believing in "dispensations" is far different from being a "dispensationalist". It is the WAY you dispensationalists view these dispensations that is wrong. For example, you would like us to believe that the Ten Commandments were only for the Jewish dispensation & not for the Church. This is nothing but a doctrine of devils. (cont.)
Lysimachus78 6 months ago
@StLukey7
(cont.) All the covenants were GRADUAL reintegrations of God's EVERLASTING COVENANT, for which the Ten Commandments were intrinsically a part of. All the dispensations were teaching lessons to bring humanity back into harmony with God's Law. All the dispensations were teaching devices to educate God's people the grand plan of salvation, and understand His Sanctuary which is in Heaven. (cont.)
Lysimachus78 6 months ago
@StLukey7
(cont.) I've got gigantic wonderful news. The Heavenly Sanctuary which Christ Ministers before the Ark of the Covenant in heaven, with the original Tables of Stone encased on it, known as the "testimony" (See Revelation 11:19; 15:5) is not in any way tied to "dispensations". It is ETERNAL. Christ still mediates on behalf of sinners in heaven. This is why there is still Mercy and still Grace, as we come before God to confess our sins, and we have a Mediator.
Lysimachus78 6 months ago