OMFG. ok I BUILD COMPUTERS FOR A SIDE JOB FOR A LIVING..I KNOW HOW FAST EVEN A DAMN OCZ REVODRIVE X2 BOOTS UP LET ALONE THE 1ST AND 2ND GEN SSD'S WITH THE SHITTY MICRON controller inside. ANY COMPUTER deskotp or laptop that boots in less than 10 seconds INCLUDING post, bios, the o.s and teh READY TO WORK DESKTOP screen..IS WAKING FROM SLEEP OR HIBERNATION and it WASN'T completely shut down. GET FUCK OVER YOURSELVES. I KNOW THIS SHIT FROM EXPERIENCE.I deal with it EVERY DAY. YOU LOST. THE END.
@chronofusion Well honestly you must do a piss poor job building your computers if you think that is too fast for any computer to be possible.. you should take a look at this video "Blazing Fast MacBook Air Speed Tests" the laptop was timed at 13 seconds booting, it wakes from sleep almost instantly or in about 1 or 2 seconds, and shuts down in less than 3 seconds... get a life dude
@joeblack112 MORON..the argument was and i quote YOUR exact words.." my new macbook air 13.3 boots up completely in about 5 seconds average" THERE IS NO PREBUILT NOR custom built laptop or desktop COMPUTER( unless you have more than 50,000.00 in the bank account & access to some kind of government owned or ran secret computer shop" can boot FROM TURNED OFF TO FULLY READY DESKTOP in 5 seconds. THA'TS CALLED "WAKING UP FROM SLEEP OR HIBERNATE" do some research and you wont look like a fucktard.
yeah..you're macbook PROBABLY DOES awaken in 3 seconds maybe 2.5. THAT I AGREE WITH..THAT IS REALISTIC. do ya know WHY? I've SEEN and HAND TIMED IT MYSELF in the apple store. THAT i can agree with and believe. I test this shit for a living kid. when ya grow up. and get over the fact that someone EXPERIENCED know more about computers than you do. You'll realize that this argument was over before you even opened ya big defeated mouth.( 1st thing the loser does is insult the winner.) done.
the dell mini is using a standard laptop hard drive- 2.5" and the macbook air hard drive was only 1.8" the dell's drive out preforms the original macbook air's hard drive. that's why they went to only ssd
my new macbook air 13.3 boots up completely in about 5 seconds average.. its ridiculously fast... and I'm not an apple fanboy in any way, in fact it's my first mac basically bought it for the looks but it's turning up to be a pretty amazing machine... my main computers are a Dell desktop pc and a HP 17" laptop which is a real powerhouse... that being the macbook air is definitely worth a try.. i don't regret for a single moment getting this
@joeblack112 now obviously you're wrong about your computer booting in 5 seconds average. when a person BOOTS UP a computer..* windows, linux based, or apple o.s.' based" booting begins when you push the power on button on the device or computer itself..and ends when the complete desktop is fully loaded and ready to work. the only possible way you could be telling the truth REMOTELY coherently..is if you were meaning to say.." it wakes up from hibernate or sleep mode in 5 seconds" nice try
Nice try? try for what? I wasn't trying anything, just giving out information and feedback about my experience. And when I said BOOT UP I actually meant BOOT UP and not waking up from hibernate or sleep which the computer does almost instantly. I'm no computer expert nor claiming to be one, the only thing I know is that the desktop fully loads and is ready to work and use like you mention in less than 10 seconds, anyways, think what you like and have a nice day
@joeblack112 ftr->10 year CUSTOM gaming pc builder that has satisfed more than 40 customers. I custom built all my computers (* except the macbook air *( new gen made and sold in 2011 with the samsung ssd they put in it). One has a 7200 rpm hdd, 4 core amd 3.0 athlon cpu ddr800 ram win xp 32 bit, and the last has my gaming machine 3.7gh phenom 6 core ddr 1600 ram, mushkin callisto deluxe ssd. from pushing power button to fully loading win 7 pro 64 bit desktop=28 seconds. I'm not bullshitable
" sdd" you mean "ssd" & you're incorrect.boot up speed DEPENDS on many things. Put a mushkin callisto deluxe ssd in TWO EXACTLY THE SAME notebook computers (same cpu, gpu, bios version, type, update date.etc, battery life. ac power cord plugged in..all same settings) & SAME o.s. THEY WILL boot exactly same time if power button is pressed exactly same time. But mushkin callisto deluxe & kingston value ssd=DIFFERENT 4k read & write speeds. mushkin WILL STOMP IT. samsung probably will too.
@chronofusion sorry, typo...however its still a very poor comparison....why dont I race a 1970's porsche against a 2011 911?, the 911 would trounce it has its a newer car benefiting from the latest tech....the above comparison of a standard HD machine against one with an SSD is just as dumb....the whole point of an SSD is to give it a significant speed advantage over the old HD's
Macbook air is nothing much than a crappy laptop, I don't see the reason buying a Macbook or something for Apple with mac os x leopard, I can simply install it on my much stronger laptop or pc
@coolman593 the new macbook air uses Flash memory... its def faster than the dell. thing is, i don't think it's the same as SSD... but whatever, i think u get my point?
80 GB laptop hard drive typically has sequential read/write speed of less than 30 MB/sec, which is very slow by any standards. And random read performance is going to be really terrible.
@backlyt Not fair if you want it to be fair then lets put it up against my D620 (42 sec. desktop loaded from pushing the power switch) specs: core 2 duo @1.66 1 gb ram, 60 gb hd...
I just bought one of those Dells. I have a MBP Unibody and a 15" Gen 1 MBP and intend to mount this one in my vehicle to augment my iPod/Alpine/Focal Honda Element, and run a rooted Droid WiFi hotspot. SO excited I found one on eBay since Dell discontinued the 10v.
This si not a fair comparison be cause of the slow hard drive. I have the new macbook air with the SSD drive and it loads way faster than this. A fair comparison would be the new macbook air with the SSD drive.
@DJTEVAdotCOM OSX does not have TRIM support for SSDs yet, and the standard Air does not ship with a SSD, not to mention that this is being compared to the barebones base Dell Mini 9 which sold for under $300 at the time of the review and can fit in a girl's purse.
@DJTEVAdotCOM I think it's just doing a price comparison, I understand what you're saying, but to make it really fair, I think both should have even specs, not a $1000 laptop vs a $300 netbook.
@younowme424 And if we get SSD into that Macbook and HD into that Dell, the results will be exactly the opposite. What's your point? It's like comparing BMW 525 VS BMW M5. Both looks similar, but one is the fastest 4-door sedan with like 500 bhp, the other one is slow.
Damn, how do you add a hackintosh on a Dell? I have an inspiron and wanna add OSX. I know it's been around for a long time, but any tips on how to do it would be appreciated.
This isn't an average mac boot on an air. you should run disk utils on it or take it into a service center to have apple hardware diagnostics ran on the system. This is bizar
One could argue its a ridiculous comparison considering the huge price difference between the devices. At the time of the comparison, the M9 was approximately 1/6th the price of the Air, yet because of the better drive choice, most regular tasks were massively bottlenecked by the poor drive choice on the Air.
The Air is available w/ an SSD, but we're then talking closer to ~ $2K vs $200 now, and OSX 10.6 still doesn't include TRIM support for SSDs.
The only way to have a fair test would've been for the two machines to have as similar components as possible. Or, he could've swapped the drives in the two machines and compared boot times again.
If they had the exact same components and were both running OSX, there would be no difference in performance. *facepalm* xD
The point of the video is just showing that for regular everyday tasks, the $1500 Macbook Air is severely bottlenecked by its harddrive, and a far cheaper and arguably more portable M9 outperforms it because of this fact.
There is a $1800 SSD model available, but point is:
1) Last gen cheapo netbooks make great ultra-portable hakintoshes
MacBook Air has HDD, while the netbook got SSD. If you try any laptop, be it a pc or mac, even if it costs $4000+, if it doesn't have SSD, the netbook with SSD will prvail at bootup/application launch times...
Its not, but the Mini 9 w/ a 16gig at the outlet is around $250-300. The Macbook Air starts at $1500 with the regular drive.
That means that you could buy SIX Mini9s, one for each family member in a different color, for the cost of one Air, and its smaller footprint is easier to fit in a small bag or purse. And for people that aren't just doing light computing, a regular Macbook makes more sense anyway.
@extremesony True, but its pretty painfully obvious that the $270 netbook offers better overall performance than the standard $1800 Air thanks to the horrible drive bottleneck, I think thats the point. While the Air can be ordered w/ SSD, its even MORE expensive, still not as portable, and OSX still doesn't have TRIM support nor SSD optimizations yet.
the reason the dell started up quicker is becos the dell has an ssd but the macbook has an hdd and ssd's are considerably faster than hdd's so this isnt a very fair contest!
macbook air is so stupid, netbooks are better. its like the difference between a sheet of paper and a deck of playing cards, paper is this but so what, u would need a large folder
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dude u really dont know anything about computers. the dell has a much smaller screen and only has 16GB memory to access so it will be faster. get the same screen size and increase the hd to 80, then compare
no, YOU obviously dont know anything about computers. screen size doesnt make it start up slower! a smaller hard drive? how would that change anything. yes the dell has a ssd but its not the capacity that does makes it faster. maybe you should check your facts before you go and say "well he must have rigged it!" maybe the macbook air just sucks
boot time has nothing to do with real-world performance, and you for sure cant judge how much a computer sucks by how fast it boots. hell, even my 8-year-old iMac G4 boots faster than my brand new macbook pro! you think the iMac is going to be faster when its actually working? "think before you speak." --some guy that was right.
If you didn't know this is so not fair. First of all MacBook Air is not the fastest laptop, it's super thin! Get one of those Adamo and then try it. Second of all you sure probably filled the Mac with junk.
still don't know why anyone would need a macbook air when they can buy a macbook pro... I mean 15' macbook pros are so light you can easily lift it with one hand (if you are a guy at least) and they are pretty slim too...
god this video sure does piss off that mac loyalist lol
On a serious note though, apple is way over priced. That is one of the main reasons I shall never own any mac product; second is compatibility. I own a pc because I love to build systems and upgrade with ease. I do fancy the streamlined experience on mac os though; I cannot stand spending time with windows tweaking for better efficiency.
im glad you presented your point well. I am a mac user, and believe they are a little bit overpriced, but it doesnt stop me from buying them, i actually hope they dont get cheap one day because they will start becoming "cheap". the build quality is incredible on every mac ive owned
yeah but the air has an extra CORE ither way dude fuck i like the idea of a cheapish osX machine with a style maybe im crazy but i like the low keyness of the netbook the other one is so flashy
thats stupid of course it wont the ssd helps but a slow processor wont be able to keep pace with a ssd an i7 with a 15,000 rpm would boot in no time hd speeds are not that crucial too boot time i blame this on a mix the ssd helps but i think lepord is poorly opitized for dual cores
Actually not simple. SSD is best for read and boot but has sever write lag especial with larger files and fragmentation. Compared to current prices the ROI is still not there even against the 4800rpm HD. .
I do not deny it. SSD is lot more expensive, and writing to it may take longer under some circumstances. However for short start-up time SSD is way better, and this is exactly what i claimed.
haha Dell mini 9 WINS!!
CMIAT 3 months ago
why would you compare an HDD for to an SSD, that makes no sense
fiveryanfrenzy 3 months ago
@fiveryanfrenzy More like ~$1k vs ~$400.
chamag1996 4 weeks ago
somthing is messed up with your mac book air mine turns on in just less than 15 seconds
neworder84 3 months ago
This particular Macbook Air does not have SSD. If it did, it would be as quick as the Dell Mini 9.
merouby 4 months ago
Mac rools
CampKillYourself5432 4 months ago
@CampKillYourself5432
Hackintosh rules!
wiigamer136 4 months ago
you bastard you infested a pc with an apple operating system
xxxfestivaxxx 6 months ago
best commercial for SSD ((:
duminicad 7 months ago
macbook air sucks....
curryeater259 7 months ago
@curryeater259
All macs suck!
wiigamer136 7 months ago
the dell only 1 cause the SSD
TheTechAnimal 7 months ago 2
@TheTechAnimal The MacBook Air has built in flash memory, which is supposedly faster than SSD.
Qkumber1 6 months ago
the macbook air the screen is crooked which leads me to believe this is fake.
packers4evr100 7 months ago
@packers4evr100
Its the camera angle!
wiigamer136 7 months ago
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haha this chronofusion guy has to be about 13 years old
brant8383 8 months ago
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brant8383 8 months ago
OMFG. ok I BUILD COMPUTERS FOR A SIDE JOB FOR A LIVING..I KNOW HOW FAST EVEN A DAMN OCZ REVODRIVE X2 BOOTS UP LET ALONE THE 1ST AND 2ND GEN SSD'S WITH THE SHITTY MICRON controller inside. ANY COMPUTER deskotp or laptop that boots in less than 10 seconds INCLUDING post, bios, the o.s and teh READY TO WORK DESKTOP screen..IS WAKING FROM SLEEP OR HIBERNATION and it WASN'T completely shut down. GET FUCK OVER YOURSELVES. I KNOW THIS SHIT FROM EXPERIENCE.I deal with it EVERY DAY. YOU LOST. THE END.
chronofusion 9 months ago
@chronofusion Well honestly you must do a piss poor job building your computers if you think that is too fast for any computer to be possible.. you should take a look at this video "Blazing Fast MacBook Air Speed Tests" the laptop was timed at 13 seconds booting, it wakes from sleep almost instantly or in about 1 or 2 seconds, and shuts down in less than 3 seconds... get a life dude
joeblack112 9 months ago
@joeblack112 MORON..the argument was and i quote YOUR exact words.." my new macbook air 13.3 boots up completely in about 5 seconds average" THERE IS NO PREBUILT NOR custom built laptop or desktop COMPUTER( unless you have more than 50,000.00 in the bank account & access to some kind of government owned or ran secret computer shop" can boot FROM TURNED OFF TO FULLY READY DESKTOP in 5 seconds. THA'TS CALLED "WAKING UP FROM SLEEP OR HIBERNATE" do some research and you wont look like a fucktard.
chronofusion 9 months ago 2
yeah..you're macbook PROBABLY DOES awaken in 3 seconds maybe 2.5. THAT I AGREE WITH..THAT IS REALISTIC. do ya know WHY? I've SEEN and HAND TIMED IT MYSELF in the apple store. THAT i can agree with and believe. I test this shit for a living kid. when ya grow up. and get over the fact that someone EXPERIENCED know more about computers than you do. You'll realize that this argument was over before you even opened ya big defeated mouth.( 1st thing the loser does is insult the winner.) done.
chronofusion 9 months ago
TAKE THAT APPLE!! (still loving the ipod they are awsome)
dekiller233 10 months ago
Of course the problem is hdd speed vs sdd speed...
why don't u compare them after the boot up? I mean, load 2 programs, let's say, garageband, in both and compare their cpu and memory performance ;)
by the way, i wonder what u gonna do with only 16gb of disk space =/
thephilosofear 10 months ago
Hi! What's the name of that background song?
markm883 11 months ago
how did you get leopard on it?!??!?!! :OOOOOOOOOOOOOO
flipspeed97 11 months ago
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Brandonlance 1 year ago
the dell mini is using a standard laptop hard drive- 2.5" and the macbook air hard drive was only 1.8" the dell's drive out preforms the original macbook air's hard drive. that's why they went to only ssd
gallagherm1993 1 year ago 2
Do all the peripherals work on the dell?
iphoneruler 1 year ago
my new macbook air 13.3 boots up completely in about 5 seconds average.. its ridiculously fast... and I'm not an apple fanboy in any way, in fact it's my first mac basically bought it for the looks but it's turning up to be a pretty amazing machine... my main computers are a Dell desktop pc and a HP 17" laptop which is a real powerhouse... that being the macbook air is definitely worth a try.. i don't regret for a single moment getting this
joeblack112 1 year ago
@joeblack112 now obviously you're wrong about your computer booting in 5 seconds average. when a person BOOTS UP a computer..* windows, linux based, or apple o.s.' based" booting begins when you push the power on button on the device or computer itself..and ends when the complete desktop is fully loaded and ready to work. the only possible way you could be telling the truth REMOTELY coherently..is if you were meaning to say.." it wakes up from hibernate or sleep mode in 5 seconds" nice try
chronofusion 9 months ago
@chronofusion
Nice try? try for what? I wasn't trying anything, just giving out information and feedback about my experience. And when I said BOOT UP I actually meant BOOT UP and not waking up from hibernate or sleep which the computer does almost instantly. I'm no computer expert nor claiming to be one, the only thing I know is that the desktop fully loads and is ready to work and use like you mention in less than 10 seconds, anyways, think what you like and have a nice day
joeblack112 9 months ago
@joeblack112 ftr->10 year CUSTOM gaming pc builder that has satisfed more than 40 customers. I custom built all my computers (* except the macbook air *( new gen made and sold in 2011 with the samsung ssd they put in it). One has a 7200 rpm hdd, 4 core amd 3.0 athlon cpu ddr800 ram win xp 32 bit, and the last has my gaming machine 3.7gh phenom 6 core ddr 1600 ram, mushkin callisto deluxe ssd. from pushing power button to fully loading win 7 pro 64 bit desktop=28 seconds. I'm not bullshitable
chronofusion 9 months ago
what you have just do to your macbook air?!!! OMG my macbook start like in 10 - 13 seconds =O!!!
AlexMusicovers 1 year ago
poor comparison, SDD is allways going to boot faster...have SDD in both and you will see the mac beat the dell hands down.
cstate23 1 year ago
" sdd" you mean "ssd" & you're incorrect.boot up speed DEPENDS on many things. Put a mushkin callisto deluxe ssd in TWO EXACTLY THE SAME notebook computers (same cpu, gpu, bios version, type, update date.etc, battery life. ac power cord plugged in..all same settings) & SAME o.s. THEY WILL boot exactly same time if power button is pressed exactly same time. But mushkin callisto deluxe & kingston value ssd=DIFFERENT 4k read & write speeds. mushkin WILL STOMP IT. samsung probably will too.
chronofusion 9 months ago
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@chronofusion sorry, typo...however its still a very poor comparison....why dont I race a 1970's porsche against a 2011 911?, the 911 would trounce it has its a newer car benefiting from the latest tech....the above comparison of a standard HD machine against one with an SSD is just as dumb....the whole point of an SSD is to give it a significant speed advantage over the old HD's
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b0400803 1 year ago
Macbook air is nothing much than a crappy laptop, I don't see the reason buying a Macbook or something for Apple with mac os x leopard, I can simply install it on my much stronger laptop or pc
TranceMasterXXX 1 year ago
Take that macbook air!!!
electrifiedcreations 1 year ago
burn the witch!
K2ACP 1 year ago
i like them music in the backround lol:P also im sure the people singing that song probably never seen a computer b4 though lol.
girlstorm09 1 year ago
cause of the SSD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! put a ssd in the mac and see it kick the dell's ass
coolman593 1 year ago
@coolman593 the new macbook air uses Flash memory... its def faster than the dell. thing is, i don't think it's the same as SSD... but whatever, i think u get my point?
flippppurple 1 year ago
@coolman593 butthurt?
pesky89 1 year ago
Scientific... The Dell has an SSD. You are a retard who knows nothing about computers.
utopian666 1 year ago
scientific. The Dell has an SSD. you are a retard.
utopian666 1 year ago
scientific.
utopian666 1 year ago
80 GB laptop hard drive typically has sequential read/write speed of less than 30 MB/sec, which is very slow by any standards. And random read performance is going to be really terrible.
darthirakli 1 year ago
how the heck did you get leopard on Dell?
an9707 1 year ago
@an9707 you have to do hackintosh
toughguitar1 1 year ago
@toughguitar1 how do u install hackintosh?
an9707 1 year ago
@an9707 look it up on youtube
toughguitar1 1 year ago
That's not a fair comparison, since the Dell has an SSD, of course it will be faster
backlyt 1 year ago
@backlyt Not fair if you want it to be fair then lets put it up against my D620 (42 sec. desktop loaded from pushing the power switch) specs: core 2 duo @1.66 1 gb ram, 60 gb hd...
kkdart 1 year ago
HDDs will be ancient technology very soon.
dinnerandashow 1 year ago
@dinnerandashow you can get ssd for mac its not hard you just customize it on the site
RedCodeStudios 1 year ago
@dinnerandashow Not to sure about that with the use of HHD in desktops and back-ups and cost effectiveness.
tylerhamlet 1 year ago
@tylerhamlet SSD is allways the way to go!
RedCodeStudios 1 year ago 7
the mac is not ssd its HDD
RedCodeStudios 1 year ago
@RedCodeStudios It says that in the description ??? lol
rodster3600 1 year ago
Look at the description. Dell=16gb SSD Macbook Air=80gb HDD
ElectricWorlddotcom 1 year ago
@lonelykatana to me it looks like you want to say that (even) the dell mini is faster than the macbook air... :)
pcfreak1992 1 year ago
the Dell mini is just that fast because of its SSD harddrive..
pcfreak1992 1 year ago
@pcfreak1992 2:32 Keep listening... You'll hear it.
CaptainCocaine 1 year ago
Kumbayah, lalala ...
CruzzioXT 1 year ago
@cpapagia the dell still won......
nehlda 1 year ago
I just bought one of those Dells. I have a MBP Unibody and a 15" Gen 1 MBP and intend to mount this one in my vehicle to augment my iPod/Alpine/Focal Honda Element, and run a rooted Droid WiFi hotspot. SO excited I found one on eBay since Dell discontinued the 10v.
mpwelk 1 year ago
Mac Air is a slow piece of shit.
TearsOfWar1 1 year ago
a: dell has ssd
b: you have configured the dell to use leopard and in doing so it does go faster
c: is the ram 667mhz on the macbook air and is the ram on the dell 1066 mhz
thumbs up if you agree......................
TheLegomaniac25 1 year ago
I think this video was made on Africa, great background music
adrianalanis20000 1 year ago
the macbook air is a shrinked construction of all the other. 1.6-1.8Ghz
And slower ram
pioneerz450 1 year ago
my mac pro is soooooo much faster than both of those
sdeezy8 1 year ago
it depend on how long u used ur pc
nhoksockdk95 1 year ago
remember the Dell mini 9 is a way newer computer with a ssd drive.
DJTEVAdotCOM 1 year ago
This si not a fair comparison be cause of the slow hard drive. I have the new macbook air with the SSD drive and it loads way faster than this. A fair comparison would be the new macbook air with the SSD drive.
DJTEVAdotCOM 1 year ago
@DJTEVAdotCOM OSX does not have TRIM support for SSDs yet, and the standard Air does not ship with a SSD, not to mention that this is being compared to the barebones base Dell Mini 9 which sold for under $300 at the time of the review and can fit in a girl's purse.
DumbDuck44 1 year ago
@DJTEVAdotCOM I think it's just doing a price comparison, I understand what you're saying, but to make it really fair, I think both should have even specs, not a $1000 laptop vs a $300 netbook.
Sevs67 1 year ago
hahaha how do u like them apples :D
willz131285 1 year ago 19
@willz131285 LMAO
thecomputerman100 1 year ago
Pc power
younowme424 1 year ago
@younowme424 And if we get SSD into that Macbook and HD into that Dell, the results will be exactly the opposite. What's your point? It's like comparing BMW 525 VS BMW M5. Both looks similar, but one is the fastest 4-door sedan with like 500 bhp, the other one is slow.
bathellfire 1 year ago
@bathellfire Yeah, but by buying Dell Mini, you basically get cheaper car that runs faster.
darthirakli 1 year ago
is cuz the SSD!, but still the mac cost like 999x more lol
3dlegoman 1 year ago
You can't compare SSD and HDD you fool!
korthoga 1 year ago
does startup time really matter???
Let's see some performance tests....
jayboyadamsPOP 1 year ago
Damn, how do you add a hackintosh on a Dell? I have an inspiron and wanna add OSX. I know it's been around for a long time, but any tips on how to do it would be appreciated.
JSantana319 1 year ago
Id still rather the Mac.
TheJacobHolmes 1 year ago
Yah... but the Macbook Air sucks. The Macbook Pro kills the shit out of both.
SamTalmadge 1 year ago
lmao, macbook air got owned by a laptop half its size!
OliRancidTen 1 year ago
mac <3
TheDeenaG 1 year ago
Dell have SSD, the macbook air is the HDD version. Cant compare dude.
Lakensveiser 1 year ago
Linux would load even faster :p. The atom is really slow anyway , why would anyone run photoshop on it, especially on the mini with 9/10 inch screen?
msvf2 1 year ago
This isn't an average mac boot on an air. you should run disk utils on it or take it into a service center to have apple hardware diagnostics ran on the system. This is bizar
xiambax 1 year ago
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@xiambax Service center? It doesn't take a Genius to do a fresh install. (pun intended)
radicalgarbage02 1 year ago
LOL hackintosh is faster than mac
sviridovt 1 year ago 2
@ahacksor because i have a dell and it takes 40 seconds to boot-up
sharmon23 1 year ago
dell will never get fast cumputers
DELL IS A PILE OF FAIL
sharmon23 1 year ago
why? you must have reason behind your thoughts, so why is dell so bad?
ahacksor 1 year ago
HAHA CUM-Puters You sick kid
StrangeRandomChannel 1 year ago
??????????????????? ah u sicko
sharmon23 1 year ago
I guess you have never used a Dell XPS
rockgod2131 1 year ago
well of course the dell will be faster look at that thick thing !
Simon95able 1 year ago
lol @ pissed off mac fanboys
zach8285 1 year ago
This is a ridiculous comparison. The MBA has a 1.8" drive and the Mini 9 has a SSD.
bakerychef 1 year ago
One could argue its a ridiculous comparison considering the huge price difference between the devices. At the time of the comparison, the M9 was approximately 1/6th the price of the Air, yet because of the better drive choice, most regular tasks were massively bottlenecked by the poor drive choice on the Air.
The Air is available w/ an SSD, but we're then talking closer to ~ $2K vs $200 now, and OSX 10.6 still doesn't include TRIM support for SSDs.
DumbDuck44 1 year ago
The only way to have a fair test would've been for the two machines to have as similar components as possible. Or, he could've swapped the drives in the two machines and compared boot times again.
bakerychef 1 year ago
If they had the exact same components and were both running OSX, there would be no difference in performance. *facepalm* xD
The point of the video is just showing that for regular everyday tasks, the $1500 Macbook Air is severely bottlenecked by its harddrive, and a far cheaper and arguably more portable M9 outperforms it because of this fact.
There is a $1800 SSD model available, but point is:
1) Last gen cheapo netbooks make great ultra-portable hakintoshes
2) NEVER EVER buy the base MBA.
DumbDuck44 1 year ago
Macs are NOTHING. I'm not sure why they go for $1500. My Alienware IS something. Macs are NOTHING and a pile of CRAP.
moneykidz1 1 year ago
MacBook Air has HDD, while the netbook got SSD. If you try any laptop, be it a pc or mac, even if it costs $4000+, if it doesn't have SSD, the netbook with SSD will prvail at bootup/application launch times...
Cyanide1One 1 year ago
it's not the same spec.if you want to test you have to test with ssd both of them. don't be dum.
zixsma 2 years ago
Its not, but the Mini 9 w/ a 16gig at the outlet is around $250-300. The Macbook Air starts at $1500 with the regular drive.
That means that you could buy SIX Mini9s, one for each family member in a different color, for the cost of one Air, and its smaller footprint is easier to fit in a small bag or purse. And for people that aren't just doing light computing, a regular Macbook makes more sense anyway.
DumbDuck44 1 year ago
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zach8285 1 year ago
MacBook Air.. thrown out the window.. :))
IulianRo1 2 years ago 2
nope you wish the MBA needs an SSD o make it fair
muk546 2 years ago 2
ssd vc hdd = no way!
Test a macbook air with ssd....
extremesony 2 years ago 2
@extremesony True, but its pretty painfully obvious that the $270 netbook offers better overall performance than the standard $1800 Air thanks to the horrible drive bottleneck, I think thats the point. While the Air can be ordered w/ SSD, its even MORE expensive, still not as portable, and OSX still doesn't have TRIM support nor SSD optimizations yet.
DumbDuck44 1 year ago
screen size counts for boot time haha this guy only reads email and powerpoint presentations haha
marionetadelplaneta 2 years ago
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WillieMichelson 2 years ago
this video never gets old for me =)
the7awakening 2 years ago 28
and i thought dell was shit...
but i kknow that mac os's are shit! windows ftw!
BOS6940 2 years ago
Try a Mac with an SSD instead of an old-fashioned HDD...
ShippingUp 2 years ago
OSX 10.6 STILL does not have TRIM support, so your SSD will have a shortened life span and more importantly performance will gradually degrade.
To date, only Windows 7 and Linux have integrated SSD optimization.
DumbDuck44 2 years ago
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LeslieYoungs 2 years ago
the reason the dell started up quicker is becos the dell has an ssd but the macbook has an hdd and ssd's are considerably faster than hdd's so this isnt a very fair contest!
lindsaymobil22 2 years ago
nigger song...
ombattalion 2 years ago
@ombattalion
hahahha
MonsieurHDVideos 2 years ago
u racist if you are i will hurt you so hard
sammymunir 2 years ago
i have a macbook pro 13inch and a dell mini 10v and the macbook boots faster but its 2.26ghz vs 1.6ghz
outtokill7 2 years ago
macbook air is so stupid, netbooks are better. its like the difference between a sheet of paper and a deck of playing cards, paper is this but so what, u would need a large folder
druidtom2 2 years ago
looks like you really offended the mac lovers here lol
i have the mini10v with mac os on
OakridgeProductions9 2 years ago
this is bullshit how about you put a ssd in the air before you call it slow.
tipman2000 2 years ago
u KITTED up dat dell, please tell me how u did it. i got the same laptop
TheZarakShow 2 years ago
its not akit its osx86
rohans11s 2 years ago
Useless test, put in both computers a solid state drive and then do the test again. now its obvious the dell wins,
Moshgfx 2 years ago 2
lol true
tipman2000 2 years ago
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TsTsRsProductions 2 years ago
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dude u really dont know anything about computers. the dell has a much smaller screen and only has 16GB memory to access so it will be faster. get the same screen size and increase the hd to 80, then compare
dmc040 2 years ago
no, YOU obviously dont know anything about computers. screen size doesnt make it start up slower! a smaller hard drive? how would that change anything. yes the dell has a ssd but its not the capacity that does makes it faster. maybe you should check your facts before you go and say "well he must have rigged it!" maybe the macbook air just sucks
cubfan42494 2 years ago
boot time has nothing to do with real-world performance, and you for sure cant judge how much a computer sucks by how fast it boots. hell, even my 8-year-old iMac G4 boots faster than my brand new macbook pro! you think the iMac is going to be faster when its actually working? "think before you speak." --some guy that was right.
tipman2000 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahah good try
chcorey52 2 years ago
Screen size and hard drive space do not account for how fast the computer boots. You sir, are an idiot. Thanks for ruining my day.
aradioactivedonut 2 years ago
lol idiot. screen size has nothing to do with.. omg just stop lmfao
hkseo100 2 years ago
If you didn't know this is so not fair. First of all MacBook Air is not the fastest laptop, it's super thin! Get one of those Adamo and then try it. Second of all you sure probably filled the Mac with junk.
JellyTheDonut12 2 years ago
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who cares about mac's? PC's rule!!!
sheek1982 2 years ago
Full of it. What's with lion king music?
qb2333 2 years ago
still don't know why anyone would need a macbook air when they can buy a macbook pro... I mean 15' macbook pros are so light you can easily lift it with one hand (if you are a guy at least) and they are pretty slim too...
ycomp 2 years ago
wow thats amazingly slow boot time, i guess im used to my macbook, its almost instant boot time
username2185 2 years ago
like the saga of rich man vs geek
just2ushar 2 years ago
MacBook Air HDD is 1.8 inch (same in iPod classic and HDD camcorders), and spins at 4200 rpm and it has transfer rate less than 20 MB/s
chayut1992 2 years ago
my macbook air with 160 gb solid state hd load fast just like the dell mini 9 on the video, but little faster than that.
deafEJ1vtec 2 years ago
What really stands out with a mac is the great design. Except this the product policy is based on manipulation and greed!
iFuff 2 years ago
nice choice on the background song
i enjoyed
eatbiscuits1 2 years ago
god this video sure does piss off that mac loyalist lol
On a serious note though, apple is way over priced. That is one of the main reasons I shall never own any mac product; second is compatibility. I own a pc because I love to build systems and upgrade with ease. I do fancy the streamlined experience on mac os though; I cannot stand spending time with windows tweaking for better efficiency.
sjm1785 2 years ago
im glad you presented your point well. I am a mac user, and believe they are a little bit overpriced, but it doesnt stop me from buying them, i actually hope they dont get cheap one day because they will start becoming "cheap". the build quality is incredible on every mac ive owned
username2185 2 years ago
you use ssd for one notebook and use HDD on the macbook air
webmaster1549 2 years ago
dell rocks with or without ssd!
gaban06 2 years ago
uhm...you're comparing a system with an SSD to one without....bullshit test
cpapagia 2 years ago 23
yeah but the air has an extra CORE ither way dude fuck i like the idea of a cheapish osX machine with a style maybe im crazy but i like the low keyness of the netbook the other one is so flashy
alexjustalex1 2 years ago
it doesn't matter, a SSD will boot faster than a Hard drive 10/10 times
rdcrow91 2 years ago
thats stupid of course it wont the ssd helps but a slow processor wont be able to keep pace with a ssd an i7 with a 15,000 rpm would boot in no time hd speeds are not that crucial too boot time i blame this on a mix the ssd helps but i think lepord is poorly opitized for dual cores
alexjustalex1 2 years ago
Hard drive speed means how fast data can be accessed. The faster the drive, the quicker an OS can boot, and data can be read, written, and deleted.
rdcrow91 2 years ago
true but processor is what deals with the information and so processor is also crucial
alexjustalex1 2 years ago
This is a completely legit test. The Dell comes with a SSD STANDARD and the MBA standard drive is a HDD.
andrewcp 2 years ago
@cpapagia
That is true, but it is also a comparison of a $1500 machine with a $300 machine.
wiigamer136 1 year ago
@cpapagia so wait, you paid 1000s of dollars, and it doesn't have ssd?
lolhinuby 1 year ago
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video45000 1 year ago
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@cpapagia Dell is not ssd it's hdd never mind
video45000 1 year ago
well, now to the pirate bay for OSX lol
see46 2 years ago
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dells suck
maddmaxx636 2 years ago
What the hell have you got installed on the MacBook Air to make it startup so slowly?
This is a totally unfair & useless comparison as you're not testing like with like.
Thumbs down
rinnin 2 years ago
Bullshit comparison
bryanvickers777 2 years ago
my mum has a dell mini 9 i have a e-system 3090uk
michaeljackson443 2 years ago
Jeeez your macbook air sucks. Must be a 4800rpm hdd vs a ssd. Unfair comparison. (nice hackintosh tough)
nickistheman12345 2 years ago
I'm typing this on my mini 9 with leopard. this thing is awesome. the keyboard sucks though
pancakewafflebacon 2 years ago
Test is worthless. You would need to compare fresh install to fresh install. Who knows what the mac is starting on init.
renhack 2 years ago
That's far less important a factor than the fact that the MacBook Air probably has a traditional harddrive versus the Dell's SSD.
chronotriggerfan 2 years ago
You cannot beat flash memory with classic hard drive. Need quick start-up, buy SSD. SImple.
rekrutacjax 2 years ago
Actually not simple. SSD is best for read and boot but has sever write lag especial with larger files and fragmentation. Compared to current prices the ROI is still not there even against the 4800rpm HD. .
rsfeller 2 years ago
I do not deny it. SSD is lot more expensive, and writing to it may take longer under some circumstances. However for short start-up time SSD is way better, and this is exactly what i claimed.
rekrutacjax 2 years ago