@Hzqi Of course women lie, cheat, and get violent. But overwhelmingly rape and sexual violence is looked at as a women's issue, when it should be a MEN's issue too. 99% of rapes are perpetrated by men, and women are victims in 90% of those cases. No one's arguing that women don't do horrible things- we all know that violence crosses all gender combinations. But don't ignore the facts. Gender issues are always equated with women, and that needs to stop if we ever want to end violence.
Actually, when you count tabulated incidentss from jail, the most common victims of rape are men. The causality of violence has much more to do with the facilitation of physiology than it does with temperament. I have on more than one occasion had women say to me something akin to "If I could" [I'd attack you]. Men just attack, or impose the threat. Of course rapes are mostly perpetrated by men. The mechanism of sex fascilitates even more than STRENGTH alone.
Gender issues are always equated with women, BECAUSE of women. Women commonly have a niggling habit of showing a superiority complex. Causally it derives from their spending habits inspiring the media to pander to their egos to curry marketing favour. It has sociological implications in their attitude towards men at large. It is obvious in the way programming is catored, that women have a collectivist mentallity in the way that men don't. Men see isues as issues. Not "men's issues".
The way the media designates the status of victimhood with prejudicial exposure, is perfectly reflective of Chomsky's notion of "qualified" victims. Female activism tends to implicate males as a whole, and disqualifies them from acknowledgement of victimhood. Even in the frame of it's perpetration violence is not a gender issue. But restricted to the context of oen gender against another, the espousers of reform are still utterly deluded about the dynamics of Domestic Violence.
@Hzqi 1. The fact that the majority of rape victims within the prison system just proves further why rape should be a men's issue in addition to a women's issue (and the majority of those same rapes are perpetrated by men as well). And sexual violence does not just have to do with physiology and aggression- sexual violence is motivated by power and control over another individual. You can't just attribute sexual violence to the fact that men have strength and are "preconditioned" to rape more
By what source and rational do you assert that rape is all about "power and control". Sounds like someoen has absorbed way too many of the fantastical flights of exposition from warped feminist dogshit. This is one of those assertions that feminist types cook up, without even subjecting it to applied assessment. In actual fact, the most basic motivation for rape, is a really shocking one. Sex, and the desire for it. There are MANY philosophical deviations that can demostrate this truth
PS. Who the fuck said men are "pre-conditioned" to rape? I mentioned the physical MECHANISM by which sex is performed. It's as explicitly basic as: MALE = GIVER. FEMALE = TAKER. It's extremely logistically inconvenient for women to commit rape against men, even though women DO sometimes overcome this boundary to commit rape against men. To be a rapist is in FACT a pathological state, as MOST men are incapable of sustaining an erection while engaged in a violent situation.
As it is with any other area of skewed public scrutiny, women are advantaged with elevation. That's simply the nature of men as chivalrous wolves, and women are collectivist marketeers. There are several notable discussion pieces about the way women instinctively try to monopolise the arena of public opinion the the cause OF women. It's evolutionarily derived of the success mechanism to put trial and rigor to the male. It's also sorely incompatible with enlightened civility.
@Hzqi also, you're completely denying the existence the power and privledge in our society. Rape occurs often enough that theres no way it's an individual problem. Women aren't attacking men- the majority of men are amazing people that of course don't rape. But our societal definitions of masculinity-- those that encourage power, aggression, dominance--serve to encourage violence and allow for people to get away with it.
PS. Our so-called definitions of masculinity are not a societal construct. That's your feminist-filter retarding your perception. Try taking a biology class in behavioural patterns and phylogenetics some time. Certain behaviours relegate the weak and elevate the strong, thus is the nature of natural selection. And you know who it is that propogates and endorses these behaviours by rewarding them? Correct! Women! Both genders are transitionally aware of what the other desires.
Both genders feature a slew of behavioural quirks that clash with the ideals of contemporary social structuingl. It would all be awfully boring if they didn't. Women complain that men aren't as involved in the issues they feel affect them, while never trying on the other shoe. They broadly alienating men by far more profoundly committing what they feel men are guilty of. Ignoring the issues that affect them. I recieved an Email recently about Homeless Women. About 1 in 20 ARE women.
@Hzqi If I were you, I'd pick up some Jackson Katz readings and learn more about constructions of masculinity, and the effects of the power and privledge men (upper/middle class white men for that matter) have in our country. Don't use biology and sociology to deny its existence or gender's relevance in this issue- Katz (a sociologist) will teach you otherwise.
I have all of the documents that Jackson Kats peddles. Every so often he will allude to some formative spark or transition which can resurface developmentally, but isn't ever really revelatory. Then like some jock evangelist, he makes a drastically retarded leap to correlate issues in a way the demostrates nothing so much as his desire to propogate drama with embolden his myopic theories about males.
If I were you, I'd start broadening my reading materials to sources that tell you something more than you want to hear, and are actually derived of something other than mythic, feminist fulminations. Like the persistent bleatings about power and privilege, even to this day. Without the faintest thought as to the whys and hows that cause power to be distributed, and what privilege acutally is. Ask yourself if you think white, western women are privileged or not.
Most feminist thinkers have astonishingly feeble and infantile ideas about the way contemporary societal structures are derived. Like their preoccupation with narrowed windows of occupation and simple-minded waxings on discrimination. I have more important shit to attend to than this, but I'll go this far. To HAVE a single clue about the distribution of power and occupation status, is to have a clue about two things. The attendence to responsibility in FEUDAL PERIODS and Pre-industry.
If you compare the behaviour of women in OTHER circumstances of malconduct, where comparable inconveniences like those in rape are not present, the disparity begins to vanish. It vanishes altogether, once you start to get a clue about the variations the distinguish male and female misbehaviour. This could lead a person down the rabbit-hole of an example like the lies that are perpetrated about Domestic Violence, and it's statistics, but that's way too much.
You might want to start with some sections on Chomsky, and writings on "WORTHY VICTIMS" and how they are qualified and acknowledged. Fantastically relevent to the way the media treats men. You might also like to start some actually objective tablulations on the media's "SELECTIVE NOMENCLATURE" as it pertains to men. One article might be discussing the heroism of sole parents under guise of "Mummy". But the Military has to refer to it's "Brave Men and Women". Ratio of female soldiers?
Women's advocates don't envisage a balance. They see any organised effort to attend to matters concerning males as a misallocation of resources that could be benefitting their unwavering perception of the eternal victim- Woman. They've even made these sentiments known EXPLICITLY. Like reactions that have shuddered through ranks about the enactment of a "Male Studies" program, and commissions tackling the problems confronting males in the schooling system. Or plainly- They don't care.
Yes, of course, it's all about what men need to do.
In the words of Dave Chapelle "We don't never talk about no shit SHE needs to do".
Because women don't lie, cheat and get violent. Oh, and they NEVER incite violence. Perish the thought.
Hzqi 2 years ago
@Hzqi Of course women lie, cheat, and get violent. But overwhelmingly rape and sexual violence is looked at as a women's issue, when it should be a MEN's issue too. 99% of rapes are perpetrated by men, and women are victims in 90% of those cases. No one's arguing that women don't do horrible things- we all know that violence crosses all gender combinations. But don't ignore the facts. Gender issues are always equated with women, and that needs to stop if we ever want to end violence.
elws22 10 months ago
@elws22
Actually, when you count tabulated incidentss from jail, the most common victims of rape are men. The causality of violence has much more to do with the facilitation of physiology than it does with temperament. I have on more than one occasion had women say to me something akin to "If I could" [I'd attack you]. Men just attack, or impose the threat. Of course rapes are mostly perpetrated by men. The mechanism of sex fascilitates even more than STRENGTH alone.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
Gender issues are always equated with women, BECAUSE of women. Women commonly have a niggling habit of showing a superiority complex. Causally it derives from their spending habits inspiring the media to pander to their egos to curry marketing favour. It has sociological implications in their attitude towards men at large. It is obvious in the way programming is catored, that women have a collectivist mentallity in the way that men don't. Men see isues as issues. Not "men's issues".
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
The way the media designates the status of victimhood with prejudicial exposure, is perfectly reflective of Chomsky's notion of "qualified" victims. Female activism tends to implicate males as a whole, and disqualifies them from acknowledgement of victimhood. Even in the frame of it's perpetration violence is not a gender issue. But restricted to the context of oen gender against another, the espousers of reform are still utterly deluded about the dynamics of Domestic Violence.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@Hzqi 1. The fact that the majority of rape victims within the prison system just proves further why rape should be a men's issue in addition to a women's issue (and the majority of those same rapes are perpetrated by men as well). And sexual violence does not just have to do with physiology and aggression- sexual violence is motivated by power and control over another individual. You can't just attribute sexual violence to the fact that men have strength and are "preconditioned" to rape more
elws22 10 months ago
@elws22
By what source and rational do you assert that rape is all about "power and control". Sounds like someoen has absorbed way too many of the fantastical flights of exposition from warped feminist dogshit. This is one of those assertions that feminist types cook up, without even subjecting it to applied assessment. In actual fact, the most basic motivation for rape, is a really shocking one. Sex, and the desire for it. There are MANY philosophical deviations that can demostrate this truth
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
PS. Who the fuck said men are "pre-conditioned" to rape? I mentioned the physical MECHANISM by which sex is performed. It's as explicitly basic as: MALE = GIVER. FEMALE = TAKER. It's extremely logistically inconvenient for women to commit rape against men, even though women DO sometimes overcome this boundary to commit rape against men. To be a rapist is in FACT a pathological state, as MOST men are incapable of sustaining an erection while engaged in a violent situation.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
As it is with any other area of skewed public scrutiny, women are advantaged with elevation. That's simply the nature of men as chivalrous wolves, and women are collectivist marketeers. There are several notable discussion pieces about the way women instinctively try to monopolise the arena of public opinion the the cause OF women. It's evolutionarily derived of the success mechanism to put trial and rigor to the male. It's also sorely incompatible with enlightened civility.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@Hzqi also, you're completely denying the existence the power and privledge in our society. Rape occurs often enough that theres no way it's an individual problem. Women aren't attacking men- the majority of men are amazing people that of course don't rape. But our societal definitions of masculinity-- those that encourage power, aggression, dominance--serve to encourage violence and allow for people to get away with it.
elws22 10 months ago
@elws22
PS. Our so-called definitions of masculinity are not a societal construct. That's your feminist-filter retarding your perception. Try taking a biology class in behavioural patterns and phylogenetics some time. Certain behaviours relegate the weak and elevate the strong, thus is the nature of natural selection. And you know who it is that propogates and endorses these behaviours by rewarding them? Correct! Women! Both genders are transitionally aware of what the other desires.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
Both genders feature a slew of behavioural quirks that clash with the ideals of contemporary social structuingl. It would all be awfully boring if they didn't. Women complain that men aren't as involved in the issues they feel affect them, while never trying on the other shoe. They broadly alienating men by far more profoundly committing what they feel men are guilty of. Ignoring the issues that affect them. I recieved an Email recently about Homeless Women. About 1 in 20 ARE women.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@Hzqi If I were you, I'd pick up some Jackson Katz readings and learn more about constructions of masculinity, and the effects of the power and privledge men (upper/middle class white men for that matter) have in our country. Don't use biology and sociology to deny its existence or gender's relevance in this issue- Katz (a sociologist) will teach you otherwise.
elws22 10 months ago
@elws22
I have all of the documents that Jackson Kats peddles. Every so often he will allude to some formative spark or transition which can resurface developmentally, but isn't ever really revelatory. Then like some jock evangelist, he makes a drastically retarded leap to correlate issues in a way the demostrates nothing so much as his desire to propogate drama with embolden his myopic theories about males.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
If I were you, I'd start broadening my reading materials to sources that tell you something more than you want to hear, and are actually derived of something other than mythic, feminist fulminations. Like the persistent bleatings about power and privilege, even to this day. Without the faintest thought as to the whys and hows that cause power to be distributed, and what privilege acutally is. Ask yourself if you think white, western women are privileged or not.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
Most feminist thinkers have astonishingly feeble and infantile ideas about the way contemporary societal structures are derived. Like their preoccupation with narrowed windows of occupation and simple-minded waxings on discrimination. I have more important shit to attend to than this, but I'll go this far. To HAVE a single clue about the distribution of power and occupation status, is to have a clue about two things. The attendence to responsibility in FEUDAL PERIODS and Pre-industry.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
If you compare the behaviour of women in OTHER circumstances of malconduct, where comparable inconveniences like those in rape are not present, the disparity begins to vanish. It vanishes altogether, once you start to get a clue about the variations the distinguish male and female misbehaviour. This could lead a person down the rabbit-hole of an example like the lies that are perpetrated about Domestic Violence, and it's statistics, but that's way too much.
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
You might want to start with some sections on Chomsky, and writings on "WORTHY VICTIMS" and how they are qualified and acknowledged. Fantastically relevent to the way the media treats men. You might also like to start some actually objective tablulations on the media's "SELECTIVE NOMENCLATURE" as it pertains to men. One article might be discussing the heroism of sole parents under guise of "Mummy". But the Military has to refer to it's "Brave Men and Women". Ratio of female soldiers?
Hzqi 10 months ago
@elws22
Women's advocates don't envisage a balance. They see any organised effort to attend to matters concerning males as a misallocation of resources that could be benefitting their unwavering perception of the eternal victim- Woman. They've even made these sentiments known EXPLICITLY. Like reactions that have shuddered through ranks about the enactment of a "Male Studies" program, and commissions tackling the problems confronting males in the schooling system. Or plainly- They don't care.
Hzqi 10 months ago