Holy war: Misinterpreted - 20 Nov 07

[wrinklenut]

One of the obligations imposed on the faithful by the Koran was jihad, or struggle. This has been translated as "holy war," and there are passages in the Koran to support such a reading, notably the recommendation that Muslims kill enemies of the faith: "Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme." But just a few paragraphs later the Koran makes the opposite decree: "There shall be no compulsion in religion."

[pmartin6817]

Islam is a religion that will not tolerate anybody that believes differently, and is instructed by their Book to kill those that do. That being the case, America and our citizens will likely have to exterminate those that are of this ilk. It is very sad, but many Muslims will likely have to perish before peace comes to that part of the world.

[Mrpastry909]

Finally some sense in Jihad!

[samharon]

Religion as a way of life. It needs to be embraced, not forced upon. The reason why many muslims r corrupted is because they no longer hold to the true teachings. Misguided Jihad would simply be some group of frustrated people taking extreme actions when there can be better ways to tackle situations. One should stop bombing other nations, but start building ones own. Fossil fuels r gonna run out soon anyway! lets go green and think of renewable energy instead of spilling blood like barbarians.

[observer1950]

Excellent. Hopefully we see more opinions from other scholars. I also hope that it would be publicized in the media here, but I am not going to hold my breath for that. The only way to make an impact that other well knows scholars, and influencial Sheiks, mufti, to issue some thing similar opinions

[Aiursrage2k]

A non-sequitur

[TAMARLANE]

APOLOISGIST sour grapes. Too little much too late. The jinni is out of the bottle. Now many Islamic peoples will suffer the wrath of those who have been targeted and killed by jihad. Many innocent Islamic people must die now because of misguided jihad by your "leaders".

Tough darts, dudes.

[exweez]

hmmm sounds like the jihad isn't going so well

[shafiv6]

where does the descendants of the enslaved africans fit into the middle east?

[pakiman47]

they became rulers, generals, travelers, thinkers, etc. read some history you numbnut. Slavery in the Muslim world was not like in the West, it was a tribal system, wrong nonetheless, but they were in most cases freed and allowed to marry arabs and become leaders in various fields. and it had nothing to do with race, their were slaves from everywhere, including other arabs.

[exweez]

and still are

[shafiv6]

are the arabs in mecca actually the edomites? and the twins are the palestinians (jacobites)?

[shafiv6]

THE SPEECH

"How to control the Black man for at least 300 years"

By Willie Lynch, 1712

Gentlemen: I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, The Gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia...

[MustafaPresents]

Ultimately, if a person takes the life of another without right he will have to answer for that before his Creator. There will always be injustice in this world, but there will be none in the Hereafter. I remind myself and others of this.

[YadaYadaguy]

ok well i rape your sister and still your fathers land and you wait till the "hereafter" for that justice :)

[crazycatfguy]

Likely to get her brothers to kill you and steal your land in revenge. Eventually the last person alive will kill the second to last person alive and then there will be peace.

[MustafaPresents]

Yadaguy, I said and meant nothing of the sort, as you well know. Twisting other peoples' words to make mockery of their beliefs displays an inability to make sound arguments.

[hajqbvii]

It all comes down to what Man has made of God...or Allah's words!

[trantrum]

Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm bad.

Please tell the families of tens of thousands that died because of my words that I didn't really mean it. Sorry.

[mhealyjr]

I don't see anyone apologizing for the book that lead to the crusades. He isn't the one you should be angry at.

[trantrum]

You're right, the crusades were just as evil.

I'm really not angry at him and I'm glad he revised his thinking.

I'm probably wrong, but I cannot help thinking that this timing comes when the people of Iraq are finally turning on the extremists.

BTW, I watch AlJazeera at home and IMO it is the best overall newscast of all.

[CaucasusAra]

well you speak of crusades, but persia was seiged by arabs, and they were forced to become a muslim state, so muslims carried out the same things as catholics did, so dont judge until you judge your self! look at the balkans aka eastern europe, why do you think kosovans, or bosnians are a half muslim state these slavs where forced to become muslim from the turks!

[TruthbHeard]

The video needs to make it clearer that no where in islam is it ok to kill civilians or innocents, but the issue is harsh foreign policy and ill treatment of the Muslim countries since its colonization in 1924 has created this radical extremism. The Best way USA can help is by stop interfering with middle east politics

[romanerdstrom]

Thanks for clearing that up. Sure, it's a bit late, but better than nothing I guess. Now it's up to the scholars and teachers to teach it, and preach it, like they should have been doing from the very beginning.

[abdkrm7]

Just that if some are scared. Many have tried but ended up being jailed or killed. the Royal Family of Saudi may also be among those who lock up those who tell the truth

[brick4sale]

So what does this document mean, because jihadists can just say it's propaganda of the Egyptian government. Does this really change anyone's mind?

[Grimace]

All I have to say is Hate the Sin not the Sinner

[theSouliLLUSION]

You would think that if the koran was a complete and perfect guide to moral living, no other books would have been necassary in the first place much less a revision.

[nicholas9999]

thesoul: terrorism was not, and has never been, about Islam. There are other factors involved.

[flyingphtm]

Innocent? if you help the occupiers your not innocent