I drew a run over chicken when I was in high school.. caption said "This one only had to cross half the road to get to the other side." not very funny but it just came to mind so I'm sharing.
@AntoinetteSong Thank you for alerting me to the fact that I have a year-old highest-rated comment on a vlogbrothers video. That makes me like a Z-list celebrity, or something.
Mine never last that long, so I'm more of an ampersand-list celebrity, or something. The ampersand (&) used to be part of the alphabet, after Z, in like the 1800s.
A nerdfighter is just like every other person, except, instead of being comprised of things like organs and cells and tissues, they are made up entirely of awesome.
to be a nerdfighter, well.. if you want to be one, you probably already are one.
you must be a nerd
you should watch the videos and read John's books
technically you need to write your own theme song.. but I haven't figured out mine because I'm an analytical/perfectionist nerfighter.
It's so sad. Your coming to my town tomorrow, Kansas City. But we're all finding out that we were supposed to register or something at the Library. And the event is full. So what shall greet me when I show up? I don't know. Let us hope it is awesome, instead of dissapointment. It will be so sad if we're turned away. :(
I'm going to say that the zit is the suck in you, and if you pop it you're getting rid of some suck. It's like, suck knows you're awesome, and it doesn't want to be in you, so zit comes to the surface of...wherever, buit it's really condensed suck.
You have to go to a Nerdfighter gathering (which is sad, cause the only ones I could get to were in Indianapolis on thursdays at 2, and I has class. *cry*)
Or was there a loophole having to do with Paper Towns reading? Check former vids, there might have been
DO NOT STOP READING ONCE U START! U WILL BE MURDERED AT 3:00 AM BY A TALKING DOLL, THE DOLL MIGHT FORGIVE YOU IF YOU POST THIS TO AT LEAST 4 VIDEOS (sorry guyz but i dont want to be murdered
a pirate walks into a bar. the bartender looks at him and says, "do you know that you have a steering wheel on your pants?" the pirate replies "arrgghh...and it's driving me nuts!"
over-washing can cause your skin to produce extra oil because it thinks there isn't enough when you keep washing it off... more oil catches more dirt... more dirt = more chances for clogged pores = more chances for zits...
That's like the coolest cover art ever on a CD. EVER.
I actually found Accio Deathly Hallows online and put it on my Ipod I liked it so much. That was ages ago, though, so it's not like music pirating. I'll Proll buy the CD anyways.
sooo is he planning on selling those cds to us nerdfighters out here that cant come??? oh please please pretty please hank i needdone!!! oh and what is that magical device that lets them use the internet? i dont get it...
It's a wireless internet dongle. It works kind of like a cell phone, only instead of it connecting phone calls it connecting the internet. Not to be confused with using wifi, which is another way to get an internet connection wirelessly.
you can only buy it on the tour so its not sold publicly :( it sucks....nt the cd..that kicks ass....just you can only buy it on tour....im confused :'(
so my friend was telling me today how the first time she met you guys she had no idea who you guys were and she went up to john and was like, you look like neil patrick harris (or some other name that the initials are nph)
This is for John Michael Green (Muahaha! I figured out the anagram.) ((Sorry Hank)) I just finished An Abundance of Katherines. You can expect me to start quoting it. Kudos, my friend, kudos. I understood 100% of the appendix and I was wondring how you got your insperation for the book. And I feel perdy cool knowing the Yeti's name. I'll finally be getting Paper Towns on Monday and I'll have it finished by Tuesday. I'm darn sure of that one. Stay cool, -Madelyne.,
hey Hank and John: are the official nerdfighter shirts gonna be available online anytime? I really really want one like my friend got in Indianapolis... but you didn't have them when I was in St. Louis. sad times.
AHH!!!! I was there last night! -uber happy dance- I got The Katherine, John, AND Hank to sign my copy of An Abundance of Katherines! :D :D :D I think I can die happy now.
I am quoting this video in my comma booklet for class. Because my theme is NERDFIGHTERIA. WHAT.
PowerOfPie 1 week ago
John Green 2012!!!!!!!!!!
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Hank you lied to us.
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TheKimandKai 1 year ago
John and Hank Green: copresidents of Nerdfighteria
ChristalClear 1 year ago
John and Hank Green for presidents in 2012: Presidency 2.0!
EmptyChannelIsEmpty 1 year ago 10
Ahaha, I just got a zit between my eyes too :/
flyingbeagles 1 year ago
This video is so jokes :)
slinkiesandpie22 2 years ago
Um, John cannot be president until....2013? '12? Anyway, he was too young for '08. Just sayin'
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I got an email from a man named Richard Saskle.
ToniMaples 2 years ago
I drew a run over chicken when I was in high school.. caption said "This one only had to cross half the road to get to the other side." not very funny but it just came to mind so I'm sharing.
Skygerobrian 2 years ago
John Green: President of the United States. In our hearts.
slavicpolymath 2 years ago 227
@slavicpolymath ... and our pants.
AntoinetteSong 1 year ago 5
@AntoinetteSong Thank you for alerting me to the fact that I have a year-old highest-rated comment on a vlogbrothers video. That makes me like a Z-list celebrity, or something.
slavicpolymath 1 year ago 4
@slavicpolymath Anytime!
Best Wishes!
AntoinetteSong 1 year ago
@slavicpolymath And it's still there!
Mine never last that long, so I'm more of an ampersand-list celebrity, or something. The ampersand (&) used to be part of the alphabet, after Z, in like the 1800s.
DFTBA!
VolunteerNerdfighter 4 months ago
@VolunteerNerdfighter Ampersands are my favorite.
slavicpolymath 2 weeks ago
@slavicpolymath You're my favorite.
Creepy comment of the day: check.
VolunteerNerdfighter 2 weeks ago
@slavicpolymath in your pants
SuperYumyum8 2 weeks ago
I was wavering towards John for a while, but in the end I went with Obama.
Now I wish I had voted for Boxman.
mldnathai 2 years ago
Stop being unavailable!!!!
Tardis910 2 years ago
lol he said recording live. How can you record not...live?
hyabusaarmor 2 years ago
The case of your CD really is "so jokes."
senorsqueakydesk 2 years ago
I live in Hokes Bluff it's a little unnoticed town right beside gadsden.
HaloGeek454 3 years ago
i just got so jokes in the mail today!!
WhenCowsFly5 3 years ago
Sharkeye Jones designed the album artwork? How did I not know that? He's awesome!
regularguy5mb 3 years ago
ARGGG! 50 Jokes isn't on Amazon yet!
When will it be?!?!?! I REALLY want one!! ARGGGG!
xmikywayx 3 years ago
it is SO jokes not 50 jokes and you should know that! lol jk
rockstarvsmonster 3 years ago
Yikes! Oops! I can't believe I didn't know that!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!
......
Hey! Maybe it is on Amazon! XD
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KelseyMilk 3 years ago
What's that little device he has that lets them access the internet everywhere? What's it called?
avzull 3 years ago
zits are apart of nerds
KelliesKitchen6 3 years ago
Short and sweet. And I really like the design of the album cover.
Nic33rd 3 years ago
I REALLY want that CD. And a shirt.
:(
I wish I could buy both.
Blue421 3 years ago
What's a John Green?
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lavalamper7 3 years ago
get some clindamycine phosphate lotion
sam72998 3 years ago
washing your face doesn't prevent zits
lol
OhSoSwingin60s 3 years ago
if you were not able to make it to the gathering, is there a way you can buy a shirt?
floam4fun 3 years ago
So, on tour are they selling T-shirts? Because they didn't when they came to OKC.
vampirebook 3 years ago
I'm such a moron, and i feel really really dumb. Excuse me for asking this, but...
What's a nerdfighter?
I mean, I can tell they're really awesome, and I want to be one, but I don't know what they are! Waaaah!:(
guineapigsrcute1 3 years ago
A nerdfighter is just like every other person, except, instead of being comprised of things like organs and cells and tissues, they are made up entirely of awesome.
to be a nerdfighter, well.. if you want to be one, you probably already are one.
you must be a nerd
you should watch the videos and read John's books
technically you need to write your own theme song.. but I haven't figured out mine because I'm an analytical/perfectionist nerfighter.
imaftergodsheart 3 years ago 67
I just saw the light! =3
rayz0rz 3 years ago
um.. well.. my comment ended up above yours instead of below for some stupid reason.. it's just two up...
and you should watch the Brotherhood 2.0 videos from 2007
imaftergodsheart 3 years ago
Thanks!
guineapigsrcute1 3 years ago
a nerdfighter is simple.
If you are subscribed with the vlog brothers you are a nerdfigher.
=]
cassandrac317 3 years ago
It's so sad. Your coming to my town tomorrow, Kansas City. But we're all finding out that we were supposed to register or something at the Library. And the event is full. So what shall greet me when I show up? I don't know. Let us hope it is awesome, instead of dissapointment. It will be so sad if we're turned away. :(
imaftergodsheart 3 years ago
It's been almost 10 days since you made this video. But I cannot complain. You guys are busy doing awesome things.
valerie2776 3 years ago
Heh, Green Party.
sharinganmaster7 3 years ago
I have a fun punishment for Hank!
make him read Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years by S. Fred Singer, Dennis T. Avery
he will hate every word of it.
HekoChill 3 years ago
Hank and John,
I have officially just borrowed Looking for Alaska from the public library in England
DFTBA :D
I shall be reading asap :D
xx
Mickz963 3 years ago
Thanks of posting!
alizask 3 years ago
grr ive got a huge zit between my eyes too=[ lol!
blacksavengers8 3 years ago
i would totally vote for you guys if you ran for president haha
Cyb3rGnome 3 years ago
Oh my god.
i was sooo close to you guys and had no clue whatsoever. OH MY GOD.
damn, i wish i could have been there.
i just bought An Abundance of Katherines and Paper Towns the other day ! :D
love you guys.
schmandreaaa 3 years ago
Ahh!I Just Met You! You High-Fived me For buying you CD! It was So amazingg! Im from Long Island and I drove out to CT for you and John!
HollisterXwaves 3 years ago
Can you buy the John buttons on the tour?
nerdfightersadie75 3 years ago
SCOUNDREL? OBAMA? IMPOSSIBLE.
OneisMe 3 years ago
How much are the shirts?
bombsquadREJECT 3 years ago
good question tyler
BillyAtAteThirty 3 years ago
Hank, you're a rock star.
Kimbahley 3 years ago
Not only is it a zit it is a Unicorn zit so it can only be made of awsome. i know i just had that exact same zit :P
MidnightMaraly 3 years ago
Thanks for coming to Gadsden, guys. It was great to meet you and the Katherine. :) Cheers!
makpappy 3 years ago
So, I was watching Paris Hilton my new BFF
[don't ask]
and they started to play a song and then I realized that it was the theme for brotherhood 2.0
I had mixed emotions about it.
Aliciaisgreat 3 years ago
Oh no! Really?
dontyourememberme 3 years ago
what else could it possibly ooze?
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EbeEazy 3 years ago
So, not to be gross, but... If a Nerdfighter pops a zit, does it ooze awesome?
LovelyAnomaly 3 years ago
omg probably
VGMoose 3 years ago
yes, yes it does
gaarakills447 3 years ago
I'm am SO sure it does. ^_^
TheWeirdoClub 3 years ago
I'm going to say that the zit is the suck in you, and if you pop it you're getting rid of some suck. It's like, suck knows you're awesome, and it doesn't want to be in you, so zit comes to the surface of...wherever, buit it's really condensed suck.
NoOtherRoad 3 years ago
I think so.
ChristenLeager 3 years ago
I agree, gross
solhybel 3 years ago
What's that extraordinarily exciting device that enables Hank to be online called?! I need one!!
Elrich89 3 years ago
I wish I could go to one of these!
Very awesome, though. =D I want a shirt!
kittyxvicious 3 years ago
hhaahahahaha john gets a big chair and i get a little chair. its like ur robin and hes the batman of reading.
goodeats11 3 years ago
John Green for 2012, maybe?
lumosbrightlight 3 years ago
Awesome!
jbrbj 3 years ago
were can i get one of those CD's
arrow2589 3 years ago
You have to go to a Nerdfighter gathering (which is sad, cause the only ones I could get to were in Indianapolis on thursdays at 2, and I has class. *cry*)
Or was there a loophole having to do with Paper Towns reading? Check former vids, there might have been
GillianGrissom 3 years ago
And that was me, strangling the English language. "former" should have been "previous" sorry!
GillianGrissom 3 years ago
I have now watched all of the videos as of today. at 2:21PM....... yay.
projectTOD 3 years ago
We had a mock election in school, and a Nerdfighter friend/myself nearly voted for John Green.
But Obama prevailed.
:D
liebeforYOU 3 years ago
ooooo want cd
want shirt
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step239 3 years ago
@step239
a talking doll? are you freakin serious? you have issues.
fuckedupspaz123 3 years ago
Yeah...... No thanx
M00k64 3 years ago
where is the list of tour sites?
SettingTwilight 3 years ago
"down here we have a katherine reading a paper towns..."
lol : ]
Briellesabop 3 years ago
My friends told me about the event today and it sounded so awesome. PS I'm the cardboard cutout girl. :)
unihope 3 years ago
What is that magical device? I want one!
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copia esto a 10 videos osino tu mama morira entre 4 oras
nikomat93 3 years ago
So going to try to be in Pittsburgh Thursday.
Lizzilicious 3 years ago
You guys were awesome on the 9th.
PROFANITY = 5 DAYS.
Goron593 3 years ago
what do you call a hippopotamus having a heart attack? hypocritical
bakedbeans1010 3 years ago
for your 50 jokes video:
what do you call a czechoslavakian abortion?
a cancelled czech.
what's the definition of a will?
(hint, it's a dead giveaway)
a pirate walks into a bar. the bartender looks at him and says, "do you know that you have a steering wheel on your pants?" the pirate replies "arrgghh...and it's driving me nuts!"
StickmanQueen 3 years ago
over-washing can cause your skin to produce extra oil because it thinks there isn't enough when you keep washing it off... more oil catches more dirt... more dirt = more chances for clogged pores = more chances for zits...
bagosean 3 years ago
I love the design of the CD, serves the content pretty well : )
DrawingIsThinking 3 years ago
I'd totally vote John Green for President. 2012, he has plans. OMG I want to read Paper Towns so bad but i'm broke!
hangingwithNadine 3 years ago
Now I want that so bad D: The CD, I mean. It looks sweet.
KyoSohma221 3 years ago
I might see you guys in Ann Arbor!!! I can't wait! I want to read Paper Towns sooooo bad and get Hank's cd!
DoctorCanRhyme 3 years ago
I am sad that we did not have shirts in STL :(
jamielynnalford 3 years ago
The video is too blurry to see the track listing on the CD.
Nanosauromo 3 years ago
I wanted to go soooooooooooo bad. I'm by auburn :(
conversekitty20 3 years ago
clinique's 3 step can get rid of zits!
weakatwords 3 years ago
I'd vote for john green, i read paper towns, its amazing! you guys are amazing
TwilightAddict96 3 years ago
That's like the coolest cover art ever on a CD. EVER.
I actually found Accio Deathly Hallows online and put it on my Ipod I liked it so much. That was ages ago, though, so it's not like music pirating. I'll Proll buy the CD anyways.
megagirl17 3 years ago
i want that cd
vegasmiss71 3 years ago
that was...unneccesary...
crzidancer14 3 years ago
KATHERINE!
Sorry Hank. I mean, I like you too.
horsewhisperer990 3 years ago
i'm pretty sure he said at one point that after the tour's over the cds will be for sale online
AnimeWorshiper99 3 years ago
John Green 2012!
ZoeMoi 3 years ago 3
Heck yes. And, he'll be 35 in 2012, so he can ACTUALLY RUN! Maybe we can get Daniel Biss to be the VP...
OUdarling 3 years ago
Did you have shirts at the plano event?
Cahkoh 3 years ago
sooo is he planning on selling those cds to us nerdfighters out here that cant come??? oh please please pretty please hank i needdone!!! oh and what is that magical device that lets them use the internet? i dont get it...
daughteroftheking526 3 years ago
It's a wireless internet dongle. It works kind of like a cell phone, only instead of it connecting phone calls it connecting the internet. Not to be confused with using wifi, which is another way to get an internet connection wirelessly.
amartini51 3 years ago
I just finished Paper Towns! Yaaay!
nuppaluppagus 3 years ago
you can use a mirror!!!
marody22 3 years ago
The art for So Jokes is amazing!
tomaral 3 years ago
even if u freeze it it just goes fuzzy so u cant read it
SmileysAreMagical 3 years ago
I was on BlogTV when you were filming this! How weird. Now I can see what you were talking about! How neat, hahaha.
InsideItAll 3 years ago
COME BACK TO FLORIDA!!! WE NEEEED YOU!
...So you can sign my books, and sell me a CD... because you are made completely from awesome.
MousketeerMaiden 3 years ago
Hey is your cd being released in Australia cause i'd like to buy a cope but i haven't found it.
gxs22654 3 years ago
you can only buy it on the tour so its not sold publicly :( it sucks....nt the cd..that kicks ass....just you can only buy it on tour....im confused :'(
666skate4life666 3 years ago
Right now, it's only for sale on tour. After the tour they said they'd sell it online.
yellowTAXIcabs 3 years ago
ooooooh rite lol
666skate4life666 3 years ago
I'll never forget Ron Paul...
dlan4327 3 years ago
Canada,
would appreciated it...
if you visited us tooo
ScrtSolstice 3 years ago
Yes.
And we'd do our best to use proper grammar, too.
Please come to Canada!
shadling21 3 years ago
lmao! I really hope you guys can add a Canadian tour date!!
bella91xox 3 years ago
THE SCENE OF THE CRIME! Someone tell Maureen Johnson!
WhataFineFellow 3 years ago
ughhh soo close but so far!!
come to lower alabamaaaa
iinvisibleb 3 years ago
This is a surreal experience. I was in the BlogTV chat when you were filming this. Now I get to see all of the things I could hear you describing.
mansonrepublica 3 years ago
I was too, as InsideItAll. Who were you on that chat?, maybe I'll remember you.
InsideItAll 3 years ago
Varsenik.
mansonrepublica 3 years ago
Alan's pretty nice to let you essentially commandeer his blogtv account.
glockbell 3 years ago
Oh my god the cd looks so awesome!!!
BalletBrownEyes 3 years ago 2
Did anyone get any video of the Gadsden event itself? If so, please please please post!
KamTonnes 3 years ago
AAH! I WAS THERE!
MirandaDrms22 3 years ago
A bunch of DFTBAers have gone to events. John, Hank, and the Katherine should come to Hawaii! You know you want to.
But don't try to drive off the continental U.S. You'll fall off the edge.
You guys NFTBA.
eww66 3 years ago
Oh boy, I wish I could get me one of them discs and tshirts =[. You guys NEED to come to Saskatchewan some time! Green 4 Prez xD
TaetrrTot 3 years ago
so my friend was telling me today how the first time she met you guys she had no idea who you guys were and she went up to john and was like, you look like neil patrick harris (or some other name that the initials are nph)
if i could vote i would've voted for john
hands down
raelkas08 3 years ago
Oh yea! Hank! Remember your new nickname from Gadsden! Sax! hahahaha!
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Nakatumi7 3 years ago
mindonmagic 3 years ago
my last name is green!!!!!!!!
skulrule 3 years ago
How can I get the shirt & cd if you're not coming to my town?! I want one! John Green 08! haha LOVE it!
L0L0rox 3 years ago 2
I want a Nerdfighter shirt. Can we buy those after the tour like with the CD? Please!!!! No shows are coming to my area.
nancyluz89 3 years ago
why wouldnt you want to be vice prezzie? all you would do is break ties.
OhSoFeinstein 3 years ago
I didn't know Sharkeye designed the album art!! That's so... well... jokes! :-)
~Trav
sivartis 3 years ago
im fond of short sweet videos hank :)
elphabaforever 3 years ago
oh, sure. now you have shirts. i wanted one so bad, but you didnt have them in Plano. :(
nancydrewnerdfighter 3 years ago
SHIRTS?!?!
no fair. we didnt get shirts in st louis
sad day
MichelleLynn81 3 years ago
I WANT THAT CD!
Petitesser 3 years ago
I was there and took an obnoxious amount of footage. haha. Do you think the "Sax" nickname will actually stick? :P
easavoy 3 years ago
Let's hope so! I laughed so hard when I heard them say it.
Ajax557 3 years ago
Agreed!
easavoy 3 years ago
hey Hank and John: are the official nerdfighter shirts gonna be available online anytime? I really really want one like my friend got in Indianapolis... but you didn't have them when I was in St. Louis. sad times.
rhombus0ne 3 years ago
ahh i have the nerdfighter shirt! :D
SWISSsforzando 3 years ago
omg i have a zit there too but it is under the skin lol.
and now i can see how people get so confused with 50 its the font
SerenadeParade21 3 years ago
"i have a huge zit between my eyes...that's too bad..."
madelinegriffitt 3 years ago
NO. I live like 5 minutes from that library.. I wish I knew that you were here. ;-;
Dezki 3 years ago
Did he run for the Green Party? Heh.
shurikennin 3 years ago
Well there's always next time. JOHN '12!
nerdfighter7 3 years ago
I'd totally vote for him, and I actually could then yay!
reb1391 3 years ago
I would be so happy if John ran the first time I could vote. We should put this campain into action.
nerdfighter7 3 years ago
i SO would have voted for him!
aw... i tried pausing the video to see the song titles but it was too blurry. :(
0spazzy1 3 years ago
i was so there last night! it was so jokes.
dandylionsociety 3 years ago
I was too! -happy dance- It was fantastic!
Ajax557 3 years ago
AAAAH I want that cd!!!!!!!! :D Can't wait!
TheOneEyedOwl 3 years ago
ka may ha may ha ah, gohan let your power explode do it now, ha
idiatico 3 years ago
That is one totally awesome CD cover!
Awesome job with the cover, SharkeyeJones!
I definitely would have voted for John Green if I could have voted.
piperandprue4eva 3 years ago
I was there! And you got the big chair... Cause your special.
QuiteAware 3 years ago
AHH!!!! I was there last night! -uber happy dance- I got The Katherine, John, AND Hank to sign my copy of An Abundance of Katherines! :D :D :D I think I can die happy now.
Ajax557 3 years ago
yh come to the uk!!! namely oxford
ChizPie 3 years ago 2
"and there is a Katherine" lollll.
andamariaa 3 years ago
the CD covers are amazing! they look so awesome. Too bad I can't go to the tour because I live in Europe. But when the Tour is done I'll buy it =D
1992Jarhead 3 years ago
come to australia dammit... what about all us aussie nerdfighters!
HalfScottishGuy 3 years ago