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  • A bit of good reading..."Charismatic Chaos" by John MacArthur. Very interesting.

  • I've been into one of these kind of church and all this time I was waiting for anyone to open the bible to read but nnnnooooooooo all they do is jumping up and down. Jesus never did that when he was here on earth all he did was preach the true gospel

  • I don't understad the debating issue here. I like John MacArthur. He is a precious son of God. JUST LIKE PAUL CROUCH SAID!! He didn't attack John Mac Arthur. Why do you fight? It feels like those people are almost idolizing John MacArthur. He's a human being. Just like we are. chill people. chill.

  • thats all we need, John maccarthur slain in the same spirit as these milk bibbers. slain in the spirit...no thanks. I'd rather be content with what God has given me...a Spirit that helps me understand scripture and keeps me from sinning when I walk inthe Spirit. I havent seen anybody role around on the ground and say anything even remotely spiritual or meaningful. Luther and the early protetant reformers didnt need to be slain and no one better dare say they weren't filled with the Holy spirit.

  • Paul Crouch should know that John MacArthur is one of the very few major preachers that preach the Truth Gospel. Now that David Wilkerson is gone, there aren't many big-name preachers there who are not scared of the real Gospel Jesus taught. Yes, I also would love to see John MacArthur talk in new languages, one from the Amazon tribes where its the only place in the world where the Gospel hasn't been preached yet. That's probably the only prophesy left to full fill, then the end will come!

  • Paul Crouch is a crook and his wife is a headcase.

  • @muffiman9797. John MacArthur is one of the most Biblically sound ministers in the country. For the many years I have heard him teach, I witnessed no arrogrance. Please enlighten me if you will.

    TBN has been a circus of erros for years and if anybody challenges Paul Crouch and his croonies, he reacts without any respect to the indivdual(s). He needs our prayers.

  • they are both as heretic as each other. i wash my hands of them both, the legalist and the charismaniac.

    the gospel is NEITHER of these.

    thanks be to God

  • Crouch is a poor judge of character. McArthur preaches thatt if Jesus is not Lord OF all He is not Lord AT all! This heresy denies the possibility of carnal Christians, backsliding or chastisement in the believer's life. Jesus said that a sinner must come as a child by faith. McArthur teaches that a sinner must come as an "adult" understanding theological truths and implications of sanctification, discipleship and maturity.. He confuses justification & sanctification .No assurance is possible.

  • one of the biggest crooks claiming to be a christian paul the wolf/ goat

  • ill take the WORD OF THE LORD , OVER THE FALSE SINCE OF SENSATIONALISM,AND THEN SAY THAT IT IS THE MOVE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!! TAKE THIS AS A EXHORTAION!! AND STAY AWAY FROM THE TBN CHANNEL ITS RAN BY FREEMASONS!!!!

  • John MacArthur makes sense & tells the truth!!!! That child rapist you got on your station Eddie Long needs to be overwhelmed by the Holy Ghost!!! Why don't you say something about Eddie sense you talking about preachers!!!

  • Come back to the roots of CHISTIANITY... Catholic Christianity...May God the almighty bless all of you!!

  • Being slain in the spirit is not Biblical John is an intelligent educated man who goes by objective thought and not carnal feel good actions. He probably wont be happy Crouch til you guys get Bible Based.

  • Paul Crouch is a very generous man concidering all the nonsence that John MacArthur has said about TBN.

  • Slain in the spirit??... mmm.. that doesnt sound to christian to me..sounds like he's talking bad about the man. Then he says Macarthur is going to heaven with them, so my question is which one is it. Sounds like Business Man(Paul crouch) was rejected in what he wastrying to sell to J. MacArthur..

  • Johns a selfish ignorant arrogant hateful brainwashed baptist who likes to tell people what they are doing is wrong instead of telling them how great God is and how he can help them. This guy should be on the moon.

  • @muffinman9797 Hi man your comment is very interesting that John MacArthur should be on the moon. But then where you should be.

  • @muffinman9797

    Lol. Since when has caring about others souls been selfish? If you don't tell the people the truth, you'll have answer to God for that.

    How is he ignorant? To me he looks like he's read his bible pretty well.

    How is he arrogant? His authority comes from God and the Scripture. He doesn't speak his own opinions.

    How is he hateful? Is it hateful to tell the truth? "Better is open rebuke than hidden love." Proverbs 27:5

    Brainwashed? By the Word of God, YES. :)

  • @muffinman9797

    Your baseless claims are just ridiculous. He does tell about the greatness of God as well. Just visit Grace to You site and see & hear for yourself.

  • @muffinman9797 You sound real ignorant. Dont you see the churches are turning intoo pagans,spirtualist harlots. Charismatics are rolling in money and you think God is blessing them?

  • @muffinman9797 You must be talking about some other John. Maybe John Avanzini?

  • Paul Crouch is an apostate who wishes he could teach like John MacArthur. Paul Crouch is a liar.

  • @jsauvageot1 From what i am seeing in this video. I think paul is threating john mcarther

  • @jsauvageot1 that's right!

  • What makes  John Macarthur's error different from the error that is taught on tbn? Do those who teach false doctrine on tbn and daystar Lack the Holy Spirit also? I think Paul should think about what he has said all though I agree with him to an extent.

  • @godapproved why not johny mac been on there a few times.

  • Paul is looking his age these days.

  • Oh please Paul...what are you talking about?

  • @midterngrades lol what herasy. Paul is threating john with the holy ghost. Being slained in the spirit is out right dangerous

  • Luther was wrong saying we are utterly corrupt and therefore are doomed always to sin. We are saved NOW by God moving us to 1st Believe, and 2nd, to do good works

    We truly, by Jesus' help(grace) can be Holy as God is Holy(1Pet 1:15-16). We can reject the sins of our weak human nature(the flesh) and live according to the Spirit(see Galatians 5:16 ff) And Luther "Sola Scriptura" led to "as many "Christianities" as there were heads" according to a disillusioned Luther himself.

  • they will know us by our love for each other..please stop debating. These are doctrinal issues not heart issues. John Macarthur didn't say he doesn't believe in Jesus or in the Holy Spirit. Love each other and cover each other's sin.

  • @Spoildhuny AMEN!!!

  • Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

  • KJVis inspired.......youve been decieved...

  • Crouch isn't happy until Macarthur is possessed

  • A man preaching BIBLICAL TRUTH like MacArthur is over-flowing with the Holy Spirit. One of the fruits of the Spirit is SELF-CONTROL not estatic speach, weird seizures on the ground or "slaying someone in the Spirit". Thank God for Expository preaching from John MacArthur.

  • To all those who believe that their repentence leaves them now perfect, I speak for all the others.

    To preach repentence for the forgiveness of sins is to preach Jesus, who took our place as sinners and truly repented (as we sinners cannot....after all, we love our sins, right?). So we do not preach the repentence of ourselves, but the repentence of Jesus for the forgiveness of sins.

  • So, you can be a "precious man of God," but you still need to be "slain in the Spirit." There were many "precious men of God" in the Bible. How come none of them were ever slain in the Spirit?

  • Amen...you dont have to be...and you wont be...ever "slain in the spirit" as a Christian or when being born again and you wont speak in tongues as per the Charismatic movement of pentecostal movement....read Gods word and show yourself approved...people !!!! Dont buy this false teaching from TBN and Paul and Jan Crouch...although they may ver well be our Christian brother and sister they can still be false teachers !!!

  • John MacArthur preaches no one can be saved except through Jesus excluding most of the world's good people. That kind of doctrine hides hate and prejudice behind the mask of morality.

  • Sounded like a back handed compliment for MacArthur. Funny too how he said that MacArthur will be going to heaven "with all of us"... He's certainly very sure of himself.

  • That is some very generous sentiment being directed at John McArthur. I wonder if Paul Crouch realises that the favor will not be returned. In fact, John McArthur believes that Paul Crouch will burn forever until he accepts the Westminster confession of faith.

  • John M twists the Bible.

  • I would expect a back handed crack like that from that old demon to a TRUE man of GOD...

  • if that's what Paul Crouch is waiting on then I would not recommend him holding his breath. not going to happen.

  • Thank God for the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of Speaking in tongues.

  • The baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues is the seal of the purchase that you are HIS. the parable of the Ten Virgins explains this very thing.

    5 Wise and 5 foolish The wise had the "lamp" which are obedience to the commands of God (torah); The "oil" is the Holy Spirit.

    The foolish had the commands but not the Holy Spirit thats why they could not get "in". Tongus are for EVERY believer!! Don't read your Bible...STUDY!!!! i

  • The baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues is the seal of the purchase that you are HIS. the parable of the Ten Virgins explains this very thing.

    5 Wise and 5 foolish The wise had the "lamp" which are obedience to the commands of God (torah); The "oil" is the Holy Spirit.

    The foolish had the commands but not the Holy Spirit thats why they could not get "in". Tongus are for EVERY believer!! Don't read your Bible...STUDY!!!! it is your life and your children

  • Galations 6

    7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that naturea will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

  • I'm glad john macarthur wrote a book like charismatic chaos. It is right on line with what I have been thinking for years. There are two types of people when it comes to charismatics -the impressionable, and people like myself, who's internal buzzer goes off immediately at the red flags. I try not to judge, but I literally squirm in my seat with embarrasment and disbelief at some of this stuff. The message should be standard across the board, from beverly hills to undeveloped nations.

  • when peter preached his first time the gospel message, people were "PIERCED" through their hearts and cried out "what must we do to be saved?" when stephen spoke to the pharisees and scribes the gospel they also were "PIERCED" in their hearts but they ran upon him, gnashed him with their teeth, pulled out their own hair, drug him outside and stoned him. The gospel is only good news to the people who want to be saved...to others, it's a SHARP TWO EDGED SWORD.

  • Are we supposed to respect what Paul Crouch says? Mr Crouch is a thief and had an affair with gay man working for him. TBN is full of thieves just waiting to trick you out of all the money you fools are blindly giving them.

  • But it gets worse.. Information reported on the organization's most recent Form 990 has Paul Crouch’s compensation package at $419,000 and Janice Crouch’s at $361,000, which makes a whopping total of $ 780,000. The compensation package includes salary, cash bonuses, and unusually large expense accounts and other allowances. w -w -w, charity navigator

  • we must understand one thing and one thing only these all preachers are men they are not God nor do they all understand God. When it comes to God we must as infinite beings not be limited or closed minded to different exspressions of the holy spirit For our God works in mysterious ways so so cancel your theology throw away your tex books and let God be God the athor and finsher and perfecter of our faith

  • Apparently this guy hasn't read charismatic chaos....

  • @elephantparty19 Lol I was thinking the same at first. But I actually believe he knows a lot about John Mc Carthur and I'm sure he disllikes him. But he is just acting loving on television for his own convenience.

  • No where in the Bible does it say we must stop sinning or clean up our acts to be saved (turn from sins).

    Most of this error comes from people giving a false definition to the word repent/repentance.

    Check out who's doing the repenting in the Old Testament (KJV Bible). Do a keyword search for repent.

  • @onlineministries -- yep, that is a classical dispensational argument that never holds water. I could debate this for years, but here is a part of it. If we are told to preach repentance for the forgiveness of sins--Luke 24:47 and if Paul preached repentance to the Jews and the Greeks--Acts 20:21 with Acts 26:20 giving even a more appropriate backup that repentance is for Gentiles and it is a turning to God which means that we must turn away from our former way of life....

  • @onlineministries ...going on in 2 Timothy 2:25 that when God grants repentance it leads to the knowledge of the truth.

    Now as far as the etymology... If you study your greek, you will see that the words may vary slightly but always have the idea of a change of mind which ALWAYS leads to a change of heart which ALWAYS leads to a change of actions. Now... I ask you, do you change your mind without actions following them up???? Oh yea, I forgot--its a mystery... righ

  • @onlineministries KJV BIBLE--Sorry to say, the KJV Bible is not inspired--neither is the NIV, the NASB or the ESV. These are simply translations of the inspired autographs. I would be real careful in riding the KJV high horse.  There is nothing wrong with the KJV but it simply is not inspired. It is a translation. Each translation has its strengths and weaknesses.

  • @thepainter3 honest question: is it God's desire that we all learn the original Greek and Hebrew in order to get the 'true testament', or is it possible that God lead certain men to translate english and mandarin and french and all other languages of the gospel?

  • @thepainter3 so what are we supposed to do? If we are really Christians, are we obligated to go learn Hebrew and Greek to get the full meaning out of the Scriptures??

  • @onlineministries -- Faith in the finished work on the cross of Calvary A.D. 33 includes repentance from sin. The doctrine of election to His chosen brings total holiness, while the flesh sins here and there -- the christian hates his life in this world and has the world behind him. Paul Crouch dogma of 'second baptism' by speaking in tongues is not doctrinal. Every born again christian has been baptized in the Holy Ghost by Jesus Christ. "One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism" (New Testament).

  • @lovejoypeaceforever 'Paul Crouch dogma of 'second baptism' by speaking in tongues is not doctrinal.' Amen.

  • @lovejoypeaceforever Not so. Study your bible Mark 16:17 (explain "that)! Jude 1:20 (explain "that"); Than explain Cornelious in Acts; explain the ones preaching ; Acts 8:15-17 (explain "that!"); the baptism of the Holy spirit is the seal that you have been purchased. The Christian without the tonges is just like a soldier without a weapon thus you see so many defeated. My people are destroy for lack of knowledge. Tongues build you up, give you access to the "kingdom". Be born again!

  • @onlineministries Wow, a fellow Christian that actually understands what the true gospel is.

  • @onlineministries The Bible does say we must stop sinning if we belong to Christ. Read 1 John 3:3-10.

  • @onlineministries What bible are you reading? Jesus said unless you repent you will perish..It says to bear fruit worthy of repentance. We are saved when we repent and put our faith in Jesus.

  • @onlineministries

    I am not the brightest light in the box, but what part of "be ye holy for I am holy" do you not understand? What part of "for without holiness, no man WILL SEE the lord" do you not understand? I have a friend like you who wants to do things his way and expects Jesus to buy it! Just keep doing what you are doing, and you are going to get what you are going to get!! TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR CONVERSING WITH STUPID FAKE CHRISTIANS; KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!

  • @onlineministries What part of "go and sin no more" don't you understand?

  • @onlineministries Most of what Yeshua commanded throughout the Gospels was to Repent as well as the same message from John the Baptist,not to mention the Epistles of Paul which constantly admonish the believer to repent and to offer their bodies as a living sacrifice. Are you saying that a believer should continue in sin?

  • @onlineministries The bible clearly says unless your righteousness surpasses that of the phairsees you shall no wise enter the kingdom Mat. 5. 1 cor 6: 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

  • @onlineministries 1cor: 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

  • @frank0067 Amen brother. These so called "preachers" are in for a surprise. We are so blessed to have such great preachers like MacArthur like they had like the old days such as Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, Ravenhill and the great Puritans. Again God bless you brother for discerning God's truth.

  • did you hear the audience clap in this. john macarthur is not God but he is a Man of God. wow i take it they just didn't know what type of idle talk they was agreeing too. Sad!!! Better yet he knew what he said. he rather see john running around like a mad man speaking in a tongue that no one understands than hear the man of God preach the truth. i can't watch tbn. Sad to watch most of the time. People be agreeing to anything that be said on there.

  • @maddoxmalcolm Amen!

  • What do you and B.Hinn do with all though millions every year you make? Tax free. I know B.Hinn has 4 homes and fine automobiles not to mention a private jet. Why don't you do as Jesus says, go gather all your riches, sell them and follow me. It's time the truth of tongues was told, it is a language used by those who do Godly missions in different area's of this world. THE PAINTER is correct, nothing on being slain in the Spirit, not the Holy Spirit anyway. You blaspheme if you say differently

  • MacArthur has everything he needs. Jesus, the gospel and the bible. Crouch needs to read the latter.

  • Being "slain in the spirit" i heard someone say that when the supernatural comes in contact with the natural, somethings gotta give; and it sure won't be the supernatural lol

  • I apologize on Paul's behalf for lying about John MacArthur.

    A great preacher he is not.

    Joseph Prince and Andrew Wommack are great preachers. Charles Simpson and Derek Prince were great preachers.

    They believe/believed the Bible.

    John MacArthur believes his abomination... er... denomination.

  • @911dispatcher Prince and Wommack teach a false gospel.

  • @911dispatcher

    Joseph Price and Andrew Wommack are faith preachers. I like many of their sermons. However I have seen some of their sermons lacking in biblical basis. John MacArthur, (whatever i have heard) is usually biblically sound, but lacks the fire of the Holy Spirit. Kind of reminds me of Apollos in Acts 18

  • @mathew115 What does the "fire of the Holy Spirit" look like? Honestly, Pentecostals and Charismatics can sound so arrogant when they say stuff like that...

  • @mathew115 i'm assuming that by "lacks the fire of the Holy Spirit" you mean lacks a display of emotion. as if truth needs to be backed by emotion and charismatic nonsense...

  • @mathew115 John MacArthur shows plenty of fire in his sermons I witness this first hand, his sermons are biblical and bible exposition would be describe his sermon approach, he might be too bold or truthful for those used to mainstream churches and don't quite want the whole truth if you know what I mean... and he is very passionate but not to the point of acting like some people, atleast it seems this way to me.

  • @mathew115 So in saying MacArthur "lack the fire of the Holy Spirit," do you mean he doesn't scream and yell and sweat and have emotionally stimulating music playing while he preaches, etc.? God speaks mightily through MacArthur and others like him because they "rightly divide the Word of truth."

  • @mathew115 So in saying MacArthur "lacks the fire of the Holy Spirit," do you mean he doesn't scream and yell and sweat and have emotionally stimulating music playing while he preaches, etc.? God speaks mightily through MacArthur and others like him because they "rightly divide the Word of truth."

  • Why do you mention those Scriptures? You can't make a point with them; you don't even understand them, especially 1Cor13:8. Have you been TOLD by some Bible ignoramus that vs. 8 means there is no more knowledge? You have the floor. Back up that stupidity and try to make sense of it.

    You need to engage your brain and quit listening to STUPID teachers. If you'd simply HUMBLE yourself before God and say, "Lord, show me the truth in Your Word and I'll believe it" and MEAN IT, God MIGHT answer.

  • John is far better than all you fakes!

  • TBN and that kind,sure create a lot of arrogant hate in Jesus name, when I see that, I know something is very very wrong.

  • Translation: "We will not be happy until John falls to the ground in rabid, violent convulsions and then starts breaking out into holy laughter for absolutely no reason. No, we will not be happy until John is overtaken by Satan. "

  • What I have found Trinity Broadcasting Network to be is a place where the whole council of God's word is not preached. The false teachers there specialize in eisegesis not exegesis. They mock humble servants in humble means who trust in the sovereignty of God and not in money which they fleece sheep and goats alike for. Those in word faith preach health preach wealth as they are growing older and dying. The bible says this about teachers.

  • it's because of the Holy Ghost John Mcarthur can stand on the truth,and lack of the Holy Ghost that pauls doctrine is corrupted.

  • @karoslif Amen !! 

  • The day John Macarthur becomes like you paul,is the day i stop listening to him,but i'm convinced that John Macarthur is a true Man of God so i'm not worried about that,God bless Pastor Macarthur and i'll pray for you paul.

  • Faith is a wonderful thing for those who have it. For the rest of us, it really serves no useful purpose. Most people with whom I would never sit at a dinner table (because I can not respect them, due to their deeds and personalities) belong to some kind of religious organization.

    It seems much more likely to find decent human beings among those who do not profess a religion. Religion doesn't add to the good of a person's character, nor does the lack of religious faith subtract from it.

  • Where does it say in the bible about being slain in the spirit

  • FROM THE ABUNDANCE OF THE HEART THE MOUTH SPEAKETH...by the words the comes out from one'e mouth is his true character and way of life...REPENTANCE IN TERRIBLY NEEDED!

  • Crouch is a EVIL one....False teacher and a WOLF! Beware!

  • He won't be happy till J.M. Gives up the truth of Scripture for his foolish false garbage.

  • Paul croutch and his ilk peddle the word of God. It is hard to believe how the gullible will buy their junk so they can make payments on their jet. .

  • John MacArthur... is one of the few preachers who speaks the truth based on the Holy word of God! You can laugh all you want, but He is God's man.!

  • @Romatic32005

    agreed

  • The problem with John MacArthur is that he has his head stuck so far into the Word of God that he will not accept the world. Oh wait thats not a problem, it's what we are called to do as Christ followers Romans 12:1-2

  • These guys are tools. John MacArthur's the man.

  • @sirjoeyg AMEN

  • @sirjoeyg john macarthur is just as blasphemous as the people he speaks against-. He makes salvation by works and NOT grace with his lordship salvation heresy and also by applying statements Jesus made in the Gospels which were made to Jews under the law(Jesus hadn't died yet- it was still the dispensation of the Old Testament Law) to live PERFECTLY or as in the sermon on the mount, he gives a standard that Christians should TRY and STRIVE to live by AFTER the ARE saved but not to BE saved.

  • Listen to the lame sheeple so called Christ like applauding.

    It's a shame how many Christians get brainwashed into believing these preachers are right.

    Macarthur is usually bang on the money but many sheeple wont even pay him no mind.

    "My people perish for a lack of knowledge" saith the Lord.

  • Interesting how the TBN audience aplauds in the end. And yet, although a different audicen, but nontheless TBN fans, were awed when John MacArthur visited TBN as Kirk Camerons guest.

  • DISPATCHER 911said: "I'd bet money that you couldn't debate one single Biblical subject using the Bible alone and not quoting your favorite preachers. And there's probably five dozen million "christians" just like you in this country. Again, you can't discuss, with the Bible alone, *anything*"

    You're pretentious & phony.

    ------------------------------ ---------------

    I'd suggest you study Matthew 7:14-29 & 1 Corinthians 13:8. Scripture never gives anything about being slain in the Spirit

  • yes but john mac needs to learn that forsaking your sins aint in there either.

    also john mac Denys the literal blood of Christ.

  • @luvdady your full of it and do not know what the hell you are talking about

  • @luvdady It's called repentance. That's forsaking your sins. The Greek word means to literally change the way you think about sin and the connotation is that it is a change that effects the way you behave. That would be forsaking your sins. Forsake = to give up.

  • @luvdady yes it is the Bible; it's called 'repentance'.

  • @thepainter3 Harsh, but I do agree w you. Where is the thumbs up icon?

  • @sparwood8 satan will be happy for this hehehe

  • @thepainter3 What a dumb remark. You IGNORE my valid point and "answer it" with an invalid one. Why is yours invalid? Because the apostle Paul and everyone with him "fell to the ground" yet you, in your stupid pretense that you honor God's Word IGNORE that PERFECT EXAMPLE of the SAME OCCURANCE. It's not WHAT you call it. "A rose by any other name..."

    Furthermore, your stupidity is exposed by your poor exegesis. Jesus blew on the disciples and you criticize when Benny Hinn blew on people.

  • Why do you mention those Scriptures? You can't make a point with them; you don't even understand them, especially 1Cor13:8. Have you been TOLD by some Bible ignoramus that vs. 8 means there is no more knowledge? You have the floor. Back up that stupidity and try to make sense of it.

    You need to engage your brain and quit listening to STUPID teachers. If you'd simply HUMBLE yourself before God and say, "Lord, show me the truth in Your Word and I'll believe it" and MEAN IT, God MIGHT answer.

  • @thepainter3 oh my brother the bible talks about being slained in the spirit but does not wor it in that manner i will give you scripture refrence to broaden your insight on the word of god Ezekiel 1:28 Daniel 8:17-18, 10:7-9 (Revelation 1:17 now these will not say slained but it does exsplain the falling part lol of coarse its all more complexed then that any way

  • @thepainter3 'Scripture never gives anything about being slain in the Spirit.' Amen. That is theology of man.

  • Hebrews927, you're the one who doesn't know your Bible. Ever hear the saying, "They know just enough to be dangerous."?

    That's you. What you *think* you know, you heard another man preach. I'd bet money that you couldn't debate one single Biblical subject using the Bible alone and not quoting your favorite preachers. And there's probably five dozen million "christians" just like you in this country. Again, you can't discuss, with the Bible alone, *anything*

    You're pretentious & phony.

  • people are insane, I actually laughed out loud.

  • The sad thing to see, is so many lives advocating these teachings, and following these reprobates! Worst yet; is to hear believers calling these wolfs..."mens of God" Now this is dangerous! Imagine the sheep inviting the wolf over for dinner,hmmm... Whats on the menu???

  • Oh brother. These people are so deluded by lies they can't see their nose for their face. Paul Crouch and his ilk need to start reading their Bible IN context. WOF/Prosperity/Health/Wealth is not Biblical people!

    MacArthur is filled/led by the Holy Spirit as are ALL true born agagin believers. Read your Bible.

  • @Hebrews927: Amen!!! These are the ones the bible speaks of. Paraphrased: Did not we prophesy in Your name, did we not case out demons and go great things? Jesus said, away from Me you evildoers I NEVER knew you! May God have mercy on their souls!

  • @ljackso That Matthew 7:21-23 passage was not for people who have different opinions about "tounges"... Right before that passage Jesus taught about hypocrites (proclaimed believers who do not really love God). I would hope that as people seeking the fulfillment of God's will we could talk and disagree on things like the proper use of "tounges" without sending fellow believers to hell. If we can't show God's love to one another how can we show the world? 1Cor 13:1 Love is most important!

  • @donaldgrantjr You're right but don't expect them to hear you. The Bible doesn't impress them. The only thing that impresses them is what their favorite teachers say... and they refuse to see that they aren't believing the Bible at all. They only believe what their preacher says the Bible means.

    These parrots don't understand that they get no recognition from God for believing a man's opinion about the Bible. They need to HEAR FROM THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK to know what HE MEANS.

    Duh...

  • @ljackso You know why it's so ludicrous for unbelievers like yourself to quote that Scripture? Because you don't even prophesy yourself ,and neither does anyone in your church! You're proclaiming a Scripture THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE to mock those who DO BELIEVE IT. And you're too thick to see the irony.

  • amen maybe john will be on there again when Paul can make it. and then they can discuss, the whole how is it john preaches what he does.

  • John MacArthur is one of my favorite teachers. However, if I ever hear or see him doing the things that Paul Crouch advocates, I will stop listening to him.

  • I was born-again three years ago today. I remember looking at my face in the mirror and being embarrassed for people to see how "jolly" I looked. I was filled with the joy of the Lord. At no time did I ever lose control of myself, fall on the floor or begin to laugh uncontrollably. I am so disheartened to see Christians chasing after their own fleshly desires. Satan is more than happy to disguise himself as God for your convenience and amusement. Be warned.

  • @edadan2009 You're the one who needs to be warned. The Word of God doesn't stand or fall on YOUR OPINION!

    Recognize this verse. "He who does not receive the kingdom of heaven as a little child SHALL NOT ENTER IT."

    Quit being a know_it_all and become a child who appreciates his Savior and learn FROM GOD what He meant by "receive ... as a little child."

    You ARROGANT CRITICS of what you don't understand are offensive. Instead of praying, you make videos to mock! and you think that's God?

  • This guy is so stupid....

  • AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get 'em LORD!!

  • The reason John MaArthur can and does expose the many false teachings of Paul Crouch and his TBN, multi-million dollar empire, is because he IS full of the Holy Ghost!

  • Amen!

  • Modern day Pharisees are as horrible as those of old. Lots of self -righteous talk- not much intelligence.-No love. They are disgusting.

  • I will agree with your guys comments on the fact that we christians need to study the word more indepth, but I don't see you proving your points either by giving me any greek or hebrew text on the matter of speaking in toungs other that what John McArthur said.

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