Diane Bish is the best looking and best- and most gifted- pipe organist we have alive today. She's just plain fierce. Kind of like Bach was in his day: Anyone who heard or saw him play was both enraptured and terrorized. He got fired from one job as the kappelmeister for physically and emotionally terrorizing the choir boys, especially one child who ran home with bleeding ears to his father who happened to be the head of the church committee. His comment: "He sings off-key."
Agree absolutely about the accoustics, it's so fast that many notes are a blurred jumble. Virgil could play like this but when he did it was not good listening, he did it to entertain. If you want musicality don't use this as an example.
@PointyTailofSatan The console was designed by the conductor of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Davis and the manufactuer, Gabriel Kney. Andrew Davis is also an organist and will sometimes be seated at the console while conducting the orchestra. May be a bad design but practically designed.
Half of the negative commentaries on this video are the exact reason why the general public and young people (above all in western societies) are no longer interested in the organ (or most classical music for that matter). Congratulations...
I've never seen an organ console like this one. It looks more like a computer printer than an organ. Any info on this instrument?
I love this piece, but Dianne Bish is rushing like she's either late to dinner or has to pee. The tempo of the piece needs to be more in line with the instrument and acoustics of the room. Otherwise, it just become a wall of sound. No doubt that she's a very talented player, but she was in a hurry on this one.
@dustermouse , I agree with you. No feeling. She sounds the same when she rewrites something. Yes,she is talented but lay off the heavy handed left hand.
faudrait peut-être arrêter tous les gestes inutiles, qui ne sont là que pour faire le cake.... : marteler le pédalier ça sert à part le flinguer (on dirait pas, mais si...), et puis la cadence finale, c'est le genre de truc que tu loupes pas : la mère Bish elle préfère envoyer un gros pâté qui fait bien tache à la fin...
It amazes me just how effortlessly she plays this. It is very fast, accurate, and well phrased, but she doesn't look hurried or stressed - but performs it looking relaxed.
I know it is played fast, but I LOVE IT. She plays the words like I would sing them so it isn't off to bad. The crescendo in her registration is the best I have heard so far. Which isn't many but I digress.
Verrry bright organ!! (reeds??) Dianne does play the piece a bit zippy, but I kind'a like it. Maybe a tad slower - but one thing I've noted is she has a very high note accuracy. Truly a quality organist. Good stuff!!
I have listened to this and watched this over and over. I am totally awed by it every time. What a treasure to have the phenomenal Diane Bish on this glorious intrument. Thank you profusely for this posing.
@iandavidhenderson I watch it over and over too! it's absolutely amazing! Man I wish I was in the Roy Thompson Hall when this was playing. Those blazing chamades and the growl of the 32' reed! mmmmm Is this the Mr. Henderson from St. Catharines/Thorold area?
@silverstartrucker Great! I really had to laugh. When I'm sitting on the organ (or the piano) and am playing a really great piece like this one, it could happen that I play really fast when I have to pee, because I just don't want to interrupt this great music. So I think you give the correct answer for the question why she plays so fast.
As an AGO National Councillor, I too have a funny story. I recall at an organ recital, I was playing at the Cathedral of Madeline in SLC UT. I was 14. I had the most horrific rash on my derriere & was performing the Toccata, Adagio, & Fugue by Bach, the itch was so bad that I got up in the middle of the piece & went to restroom. Came back told Audience I had a "Call of Nature". My late father said the crowd was in shock as I got up & left, but laughed after explanation.
This is a super, super presentation of the Virgil Fox arrangement by Diane Bish on a great organ in Toronto. I would like to see and hear more of Diane on this relatively modern instrument.
Love that instrument. The stage console is a little strange, I'm not one for buttons, but the sound is nice, acoustic is great, and the tracker console is nice. Plus it's a very good piece.
Diane has given the world a great gift in her music. We should rejoice and be glad in it,,I do,and Virgil thought a lot of her and her excellent television series is still without equal. Blessings!
Faster than most I have heard...but she holds it "together" very well, especially that considering...and she certainly milks it for all it's worth with the slight ritards at the end of the phrases...a very, very musical performance, no matter what the speed!
@armorsecsys, remember that this console was designed to be used for when the conductor of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra at the time, Andrew Davis, would be a soloist along with conducting while seated at the console. So the console had to be built in a way where the performers of the orchestra could easily see the conductor. Ugly yes, but it serves a very practical purpose aside from being pretty high tech.
As many have said the stop action is electric with solenoid actuators on the sliders and of course modern combination action. On the mechanical key action are electric solenoid pulldowns for the movable console. Naturally a computer interface between the electric console and the organ proper.
I love Dianne, but why is everything in light/warp speed, speed. Everything she plays is so fast. I understand she wants to impress, but going so fast on everything she plays, means you loose so much of the piece. I wished she would slow down, and enjoy the piece, and the chords that Virgil wrote in, and many other composers wrote in. There is no need to go so fast.
@enchammade16 While I don't know how she feels about tempo personally, I will say that great speed is what the people call for--perhaps those with less training in music who are awed by the work as a whole but not its intricacies. I will say that Mozart is reported--or wrote, I cannot be sure--to have complained of people requesting him to play too quickly . . . when one does, it is unfortunate for those of us with like taste.
The senset that this is too fast might come from the Youtube sonics. For a chorale, the question of speed is determined first by the singing line. In this case, it is beautifully played, as though a soloist or choir were singing the cantus.
Gott, das war ja auch mal in der Mode so haessliche Spieltische zu bauen xD Und die Aussage: "plays almost like a computer" ist fuer ne Orgel auch nicht unbedingt ein Kompliment :)
Very musical performance of this piece, I like the slight ritards at the end of certain phrases...makes for a more dramatic feel than just playing it "straight through"...also, that's quite a thrilling sounding instrument! Interesting console, looks kinda more like a Kawai than anything else...lol...but a very thrilling sound!
This organ was built around 1982, by Gabriel Kney, for what was to be the new Massey Hall but was renamed to Roy Thompson Hall. The organ has full mechanical stop and key action when the console on the second balcony level is used, but it also has electro pneumatic action when the movable console is used. It does have a very thrilling sound to it which I find unique to it.
Yup, it is a tracker organ despite the dual key action and dual stop action when either the console on the balcony is used or when the movable console is used. Gabriel Kney has done a great job with this very fine instrument.
Would be interested to know how an instrument with digital/electronic stops and a mobile console could be a tracker. I understand the term "tracker" to mean the stops are actually connected to the boards at the base of the pipes rather and that when swell to great is coupled, the keys actually connect. Can't see that would happen on this instrument?
It get's tricky to explain when there's dual action involved here. However, I've managed to find a close up picture of the fixed console and from what I see is that the stop action is not mechanical but electronic. Same controls that are seen on the moveable console. Key action though is still mechanical. For sure with the moveable console, it is all electronic.
Ah I see! So the console being played in the clip does not/cannot have tracker action and only the keyboard on the fixed console is tracked. So its only 50% a tracker organ then?
Yes! The moveable console is only electric stop and electric key action. The fixed console is electric stop action and mechanical key action. Either way it's still a very nice instrument.
Indeed I believe Ms. Bish and Virgil Fox have had unimaginable impact in making the masses aware of the wonderful sound of the organ. I have nothing but shear admiration for these two individuals.
This is such a beautiful piece. The more I hear it the more puts a smile on my face. Being performed by Diane Bish is the the proverbial icing on the cake. 5/5 and faved.
I've been hoping that someone would upload a video of Diane Bish playing the Gabriel Kney organ of Roy Thompson Hall. The video shows off how easy it is to change stops on the mobile console. Nothing to pull, just press a stop to activate it and press it again to deactivate it. Note that this organ is a tracker instrument but also has electric action when the mobile console is used.
you gotta have some talent to make a virgil fox arrangement look like a practice piece. how amazing would a organ duet concert with diane and virgil be. what musical legends they are. and damn thats one fancy shirt to top it off
I have both of the episodes of this concert on tape.......and in all the pieces she plays like a demon. Im sure one of her finest concerts, and I bet to this day every person in that audience remembers it as amazing.
Diane Bish is the best looking and best- and most gifted- pipe organist we have alive today. She's just plain fierce. Kind of like Bach was in his day: Anyone who heard or saw him play was both enraptured and terrorized. He got fired from one job as the kappelmeister for physically and emotionally terrorizing the choir boys, especially one child who ran home with bleeding ears to his father who happened to be the head of the church committee. His comment: "He sings off-key."
homoignobilis 2 weeks ago
This is so GREAT!!!!!!
ChrissysVideokids 3 months ago
Agree absolutely about the accoustics, it's so fast that many notes are a blurred jumble. Virgil could play like this but when he did it was not good listening, he did it to entertain. If you want musicality don't use this as an example.
Hope she caught her train !
noteworthy99 3 months ago
I actually have this piece as done by Virgil Fox, and I feel like Diane does a much better job- I like it faster; it's more exciting!!
penguinflag 4 months ago
The person that designed that console is an idiot. The stopboard layout is so bad....
PointyTailofSatan 4 months ago
@PointyTailofSatan The console was designed by the conductor of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Davis and the manufactuer, Gabriel Kney. Andrew Davis is also an organist and will sometimes be seated at the console while conducting the orchestra. May be a bad design but practically designed.
cornwallthedragon 1 week ago
Half of the negative commentaries on this video are the exact reason why the general public and young people (above all in western societies) are no longer interested in the organ (or most classical music for that matter). Congratulations...
AEQIk21 5 months ago 3
I've never seen an organ console like this one. It looks more like a computer printer than an organ. Any info on this instrument?
I love this piece, but Dianne Bish is rushing like she's either late to dinner or has to pee. The tempo of the piece needs to be more in line with the instrument and acoustics of the room. Otherwise, it just become a wall of sound. No doubt that she's a very talented player, but she was in a hurry on this one.
DLLMWL 8 months ago
She needs to lay off the energy drinks, she is playing way to fast!
dustermouse 9 months ago
@dustermouse , I agree with you. No feeling. She sounds the same when she rewrites something. Yes,she is talented but lay off the heavy handed left hand.
march131958 4 months ago
This was horrific.
ajaydamier 10 months ago
Ridiculously fast, she ruins it...
silverstartrucker 11 months ago
@silverstartrucker If is as if she was typewriting.
cumesoftware 10 months ago
wow!!
deutschphilippinen 11 months ago
It looks like she is writing at the computer allright. Too fast to enjoy the piece! And she uses too many stops at the end that my ears can't handle!
cumesoftware 1 year ago
can you play oh susanna on organ
4iwilllive 1 year ago
faudrait peut-être arrêter tous les gestes inutiles, qui ne sont là que pour faire le cake.... : marteler le pédalier ça sert à part le flinguer (on dirait pas, mais si...), et puis la cadence finale, c'est le genre de truc que tu loupes pas : la mère Bish elle préfère envoyer un gros pâté qui fait bien tache à la fin...
Lackdi54 1 year ago
The love for music has no age and this is confirmation.
Deathss81 1 year ago
enchamade, you answered your own question.. "She wants to impress..." Flashy, but not very musical or pleasant to listen to, but fun to watch.
mikedc2020 1 year ago
Seriously Dianne... Slow it down!!
ECKeefe 1 year ago
It amazes me just how effortlessly she plays this. It is very fast, accurate, and well phrased, but she doesn't look hurried or stressed - but performs it looking relaxed.
organEd 1 year ago
Shes like the Rock star of church organist ! Hurray Diane
DETROITBULLET 1 year ago
I know it is played fast, but I LOVE IT. She plays the words like I would sing them so it isn't off to bad. The crescendo in her registration is the best I have heard so far. Which isn't many but I digress.
0627nmp 1 year ago
Verrry bright organ!! (reeds??) Dianne does play the piece a bit zippy, but I kind'a like it. Maybe a tad slower - but one thing I've noted is she has a very high note accuracy. Truly a quality organist. Good stuff!!
JohannusFan 1 year ago
"When it's played with color, and with guts, and with great honesty, then the organ takes on its full meaning."--Virgil Fox
I'd say by Fox's statement, Diane does this piece justice.
vinniecaruso 1 year ago
I have listened to this and watched this over and over. I am totally awed by it every time. What a treasure to have the phenomenal Diane Bish on this glorious intrument. Thank you profusely for this posing.
iandavidhenderson 1 year ago 2
@iandavidhenderson I watch it over and over too! it's absolutely amazing! Man I wish I was in the Roy Thompson Hall when this was playing. Those blazing chamades and the growl of the 32' reed! mmmmm Is this the Mr. Henderson from St. Catharines/Thorold area?
jv04jm 1 year ago
I love the faster paced stuff. It just makes her that much better a player!
morrisrobert314 1 year ago
a little fast, but she makes it her own.
umroo2014 1 year ago
This is a terrific arrangement by Virgil Fox! I wish I could come up with something half as original and exciting as this!
karlakor 1 year ago
I agree this is a ltitle fast paced for my taste..I am learning it and you bet I am slower!!
JoRoAM1 1 year ago
Far too fast. Diane should listen to Virgil Fox playing his own arrangement. Perhaps Diane was dying for a pee and desperate to get to the loo
silverstartrucker 1 year ago
@silverstartrucker Great! I really had to laugh. When I'm sitting on the organ (or the piano) and am playing a really great piece like this one, it could happen that I play really fast when I have to pee, because I just don't want to interrupt this great music. So I think you give the correct answer for the question why she plays so fast.
Episcopalcriticiser 1 year ago
@Episcopalcriticiser
As an AGO National Councillor, I too have a funny story. I recall at an organ recital, I was playing at the Cathedral of Madeline in SLC UT. I was 14. I had the most horrific rash on my derriere & was performing the Toccata, Adagio, & Fugue by Bach, the itch was so bad that I got up in the middle of the piece & went to restroom. Came back told Audience I had a "Call of Nature". My late father said the crowd was in shock as I got up & left, but laughed after explanation.
ARFRC1 1 year ago
She is "always" playing tof fast,is this america or so what?,big,bigger,biggest,fast,faster,.......
Tip for Diane:please follow masterclass in Europe!,for example Paris?
1MrBadineriebach 1 year ago
This is a super, super presentation of the Virgil Fox arrangement by Diane Bish on a great organ in Toronto. I would like to see and hear more of Diane on this relatively modern instrument.
iandavidhenderson 1 year ago
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. Today (July 25), I played this for Sunday School assembly.
mkl62 1 year ago
@mkl62
Hello there, like you I belong to the ELCA. Unlike the other Lutherans we ELCAers are the partying Lutherans!!
Festizzle 1 year ago
Good, but I have to agree it's too fast...
Owdfolkie 1 year ago
Sounds great and I like the tempo...she looks like she's having a great time.
requiemguy 1 year ago
this is the best interpretation I've ever heard. thanks God for the unique Diane Bish!
Chappeau! Greetings from Switzerland.
crossbike 1 year ago
I guess this is one time where "pedal pushers" would be appropriate attire?!!
strong1235 1 year ago
Love that instrument. The stage console is a little strange, I'm not one for buttons, but the sound is nice, acoustic is great, and the tracker console is nice. Plus it's a very good piece.
TrinityUMCOrganist 1 year ago
Diane has given the world a great gift in her music. We should rejoice and be glad in it,,I do,and Virgil thought a lot of her and her excellent television series is still without equal. Blessings!
DavidSnyderLumierist 1 year ago 3
OMG!
Ghostkid202 1 year ago
Faster than most I have heard...but she holds it "together" very well, especially that considering...and she certainly milks it for all it's worth with the slight ritards at the end of the phrases...a very, very musical performance, no matter what the speed!
Organsk8er 2 years ago
I think her speed for this work is perfect
happyorganist 2 years ago
@happyorganist think so too!
organ66 1 year ago
Ugly Console.
armorsecsys 2 years ago 2
@armorsecsys, remember that this console was designed to be used for when the conductor of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra at the time, Andrew Davis, would be a soloist along with conducting while seated at the console. So the console had to be built in a way where the performers of the orchestra could easily see the conductor. Ugly yes, but it serves a very practical purpose aside from being pretty high tech.
cornwallthedragon 1 year ago
Too fast, but otherwise OK...
silverstartrucker 2 years ago 3
@silverstartrucker
G.Danda plays it a little slower and better.
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I wonder what Virgil thought of Diane?
0627nmp 2 years ago
@0627nmp , He and Ted Alan Worth thought highly of her. She is mentioned in his book "The Dish".
organEd 2 years ago
@organEd thanks
0627nmp 1 year ago
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MrGilly56 2 years ago
As many have said the stop action is electric with solenoid actuators on the sliders and of course modern combination action. On the mechanical key action are electric solenoid pulldowns for the movable console. Naturally a computer interface between the electric console and the organ proper.
praestant8 2 years ago
Ut in omnibus glorificetur Deus!
patagiarius 2 years ago
Deus non est; musica magnifica est.
pw4489 2 years ago
Deus maior est!
Musica sine Deo imperfecta est.
patagiarius 2 years ago
that would be so much fun to play :D
l09anv1011n 2 years ago
Perfect speed!
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago
i performed this piece last sunday for a prelude and got a standing obation. it was awesome!
dispatch4014 2 years ago
the word is ovation
happyorganist 2 years ago 2
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brianplummer 2 years ago
It is in sequence with the hymn "Now Thank We All our God." Just a deeper observation.
cmoore479 2 years ago
*lach
und immer schön den fuss abstellen. was ist an bish so toll? ihre interpretation oder ihre klamotten, oder werder noch?
Dekanatskantor 2 years ago
I love Dianne, but why is everything in light/warp speed, speed. Everything she plays is so fast. I understand she wants to impress, but going so fast on everything she plays, means you loose so much of the piece. I wished she would slow down, and enjoy the piece, and the chords that Virgil wrote in, and many other composers wrote in. There is no need to go so fast.
enchammade16 2 years ago 15
I like it the way it is
happyorganist 2 years ago
I do agree with you about the break neck speed.
silverstartrucker 2 years ago
@enchammade16 claptrap. Listen to some of the other "slower" performances. No thank you. You have them; I prefer this. Wonderful.
organisten 1 year ago
@enchammade16 While I don't know how she feels about tempo personally, I will say that great speed is what the people call for--perhaps those with less training in music who are awed by the work as a whole but not its intricacies. I will say that Mozart is reported--or wrote, I cannot be sure--to have complained of people requesting him to play too quickly . . . when one does, it is unfortunate for those of us with like taste.
dolofonos 1 year ago
@enchammade16 blah blah blah........ Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Towncarguy52 11 months ago
The senset that this is too fast might come from the Youtube sonics. For a chorale, the question of speed is determined first by the singing line. In this case, it is beautifully played, as though a soloist or choir were singing the cantus.
tactilex 2 years ago
agreed!
happyorganist 2 years ago
sounds ok, but a bit too fast. And hold the hands on the keyboard!
Orgelapeldoorn 2 years ago
Amazing! Diane Bish is truly the "First Lady of the Organ."
jpwmusicman 2 years ago
Slow down Bishie...
silverstartrucker 2 years ago 3
Look at her hands! Just like a young lady ! So Ladies, stay away from the kitchen!!!
ve2so 2 years ago
haha...she loves to cook!
laplacae 2 years ago
haha...she loves to cook!
laplacae 2 years ago
I love Virgil Fox's arrangement. She does this piece justice. VF would be proud. I have this piece on his Encores CD. Five stars!
passacaglia28 2 years ago
Me as well. What a Nintendo of an organ :)
cmoore479 2 years ago
Well said.
passacaglia28 2 years ago
Agreed!
Mojeans04 2 years ago
wow! never heard a corvette console before.
framer4157 2 years ago
Gott, das war ja auch mal in der Mode so haessliche Spieltische zu bauen xD Und die Aussage: "plays almost like a computer" ist fuer ne Orgel auch nicht unbedingt ein Kompliment :)
DAOFB 2 years ago
She played it a bit fast though.
TheObliterator92 2 years ago 2
Brilliant version!!!!!!!!
hubertjudge 2 years ago
Fantastico!! Complimenti!!
Io ti amo!!
Organbest 2 years ago 4
My favorite organ piece!
moller11739 3 years ago
Wonderful!!
On behalf of the American Guild of Organists, thanks for this post.
I never heard much of Virgil Fox, other than one of his CDs. Both Diane and Him have received countless awards and recognition from the AGO.
They are very talented organists and this gives US younger organists, like myself, inspiration.
As a Regional Councillor of the American Guild of Organists, thanks for this post.
ARFRC1 3 years ago 2
Very musical performance of this piece, I like the slight ritards at the end of certain phrases...makes for a more dramatic feel than just playing it "straight through"...also, that's quite a thrilling sounding instrument! Interesting console, looks kinda more like a Kawai than anything else...lol...but a very thrilling sound!
Organsk8er 3 years ago
This organ was built around 1982, by Gabriel Kney, for what was to be the new Massey Hall but was renamed to Roy Thompson Hall. The organ has full mechanical stop and key action when the console on the second balcony level is used, but it also has electro pneumatic action when the movable console is used. It does have a very thrilling sound to it which I find unique to it.
cornwallthedragon 3 years ago
I could tell it was a tracker organ. It sounds a bit chiffy
PipeOrganistSC 2 years ago
Yup, it is a tracker organ despite the dual key action and dual stop action when either the console on the balcony is used or when the movable console is used. Gabriel Kney has done a great job with this very fine instrument.
cornwallthedragon 2 years ago
Would be interested to know how an instrument with digital/electronic stops and a mobile console could be a tracker. I understand the term "tracker" to mean the stops are actually connected to the boards at the base of the pipes rather and that when swell to great is coupled, the keys actually connect. Can't see that would happen on this instrument?
pipeup1 2 years ago
It get's tricky to explain when there's dual action involved here. However, I've managed to find a close up picture of the fixed console and from what I see is that the stop action is not mechanical but electronic. Same controls that are seen on the moveable console. Key action though is still mechanical. For sure with the moveable console, it is all electronic.
cornwallthedragon 2 years ago
Ah I see! So the console being played in the clip does not/cannot have tracker action and only the keyboard on the fixed console is tracked. So its only 50% a tracker organ then?
pipeup1 2 years ago
Yes! The moveable console is only electric stop and electric key action. The fixed console is electric stop action and mechanical key action. Either way it's still a very nice instrument.
cornwallthedragon 2 years ago
I love that word..."chiffy"
caysonstaples 2 years ago
daaammmmmn she is so good.
sistahsharon 3 years ago
Does anyone have this sheet music they'd be willing to send me? I'd appreciate it a lot.
vinniecaruso 3 years ago
Absolutley magnificant! I love it! We organist should really respect the talents of this woman and of virgil fox! Brilliant!
dispatch4014 3 years ago
Indeed I believe Ms. Bish and Virgil Fox have had unimaginable impact in making the masses aware of the wonderful sound of the organ. I have nothing but shear admiration for these two individuals.
tamiasthechipmunk 3 years ago
This is such a beautiful piece. The more I hear it the more puts a smile on my face. Being performed by Diane Bish is the the proverbial icing on the cake. 5/5 and faved.
theblackhand2 3 years ago
I've been hoping that someone would upload a video of Diane Bish playing the Gabriel Kney organ of Roy Thompson Hall. The video shows off how easy it is to change stops on the mobile console. Nothing to pull, just press a stop to activate it and press it again to deactivate it. Note that this organ is a tracker instrument but also has electric action when the mobile console is used.
cornwallthedragon 3 years ago 3
The Console is very similar to the one at my church. 1988 Petty Madden IV/96.
MoneyManTC 3 years ago
This one at Roy Thompson Hall is a IV/104.
cornwallthedragon 2 years ago
you gotta have some talent to make a virgil fox arrangement look like a practice piece. how amazing would a organ duet concert with diane and virgil be. what musical legends they are. and damn thats one fancy shirt to top it off
vinniecaruso 3 years ago
The Virgil is really tricky! I do the Janet Linker arrangement, with a Virgilized style. Virgil and Diane...long may their legacies live!
DesireeDeFete 3 years ago
I have both of the episodes of this concert on tape.......and in all the pieces she plays like a demon. Im sure one of her finest concerts, and I bet to this day every person in that audience remembers it as amazing.
trackboi27 3 years ago
Cool Console!
OrganistAnthony 3 years ago
Actually it is played rather well. It is played fast, but if you listen to Virgil's recordings of it...he tends to take it at a fast tempo as well.
PJManfredi 3 years ago 3
Amazing! I love it, thanks for posting!
AmericanCars101 3 years ago 4
This is the version arranged by Virgil fox and is certainly accurately played, just a bit too fast. It's not designed as a baroque piece.
cromorne 3 years ago
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this is not very good played and not very baroque.
praisethelord333 3 years ago