I don't know why, but I've never been a huge fan. Obviouly he's great, but I'd rather listen to Weckl or JoJo Mayer do a solo. Maybe it's the sound of his drums...too muted or something. Give me Dave Weckl.
If Vinnie read all of this competition banter among himself and his peers, he wouldn't dig it at all -- either would Steve Smith, Gadd, Weckl, Bozzio, and especially Freddie Gruber. Freddie would tell you all to " ... shut up, and play the fucking drums, man..."
Yamaha, I knew it! I have his brilliant CD entitled Vinnie Colaiuta and it's quite good. I know he's switched to Gretsch drums but no matter what brand he plays, he's still Vinnie.
'It's not the drums, it's the drummer.' - Geoff Emerick.
@Ismaellira93 George Kollias wish he could play like this (in his dreams). Kollias lacks dynamics, flare, and is not very melodic at all. He's plays for speed (which is quite amazing) but then, it ends there. His solos are that of a teenager with mindless licks and absolutely no structure, whatsoever! You obviously don't know what your typing about.
@TheSilentManII : reaction to "you are so wrong" I agree a degree, Portnoy is a hell off a drummer in another timbre witch he is better in than Vinnie, but what Vinnie shows here is what he is and no way ever Portnoy can beat that and vice versa (I'm for Vinnie, but's thats my , being me,
@TheSilentManII : reaction to "you are so wrong" I agree a degree, Portnoy is a hell off a drummer in another timbre witch he is better in than Vinnie, but what Vinnie shows here is what he is and no way ever Portnoy can beat that and vice versa (I'm for Vinnie, but's thats me, being me,
@timdrms - It's the original and now discontinued Maple Customs he's playing here. Small square gold lugs and thicker shells than the Absolutes, and better sound.
For some that may not be enjoying this as much as they could, Vinnie's soloing in 19/16 (notice the little group of 3 after playing the 4/4 bar) and referencing a groove in that meter which he played on Joe's Garage, 1978 (Frank Zappa). Oh, and he's nailing it :D
@sofakingrate man...feel the same way. I typically can't stand to hear people to say so and so is the best anything. But without apology I really can say that Vinnie is the best.
Vinnie Colaiuta, Terry Bozzio, Aynsley Dunbar, Chad Wackerman, Chester Thompson, Ralph humphrey, Art Tripp, Jimmy Carl Black...Zappa only ever used the best drummers in his band, to get through a Zappa audition and stay in his band for years took only the very best guys. World class talent and skill...
Soy un fan de Zappa y no puedo evitar relacionar casi todo lo que escucho con él...
Este solo me recuerda muchísimo al de "Don't You ever wash that thing?" del album en directo "Roxy & Elsewhere" (Lo siento pero no puedo evitarlo....) De todos modos para los que les guste el solo de Vinnie pueden escuchar el que os comento .(siento no poner un link, pero no encuentro en youtube la versión del Roxy..)..gracias por el video...
Ears is spectacular and is a very angular and talented drummer. His fans call him Snake Head.
You wanna' know why my kitty's fans call him Snake Head? Because when he strikes the drums it's so fast that it dazzles the audience, who break out into cheers, laughter, merriment and crying.
Ears is that good.
This dude is OK, but Ears laughs at his basic level of playing.
Ears head resembles a snake when he plays. He darts around on stage. Real.
Never gave a damn about drum solos before but this guy is in the company of Neil Peart, Stu Copeland, and others ( that I haven't discovered yet) in terms of technical profciency and pure balls.
@generatrix999 yeah man. I hugely enjoy Peart and Copeland (especially Copeland!) and they are brilliant players. but from what I've heard, they are nowhere near as versatile as Vinnie and he has them scorched in the technique department. i heard somewhere that vinnie said he was a big fan of copeland but i bet they friggin worship vinnie.
In my limited listening experience to Dennis, Vinnie, and Dave, I also feel Dave seems more skilled/versatile...but I STILL appreciate ALL 3 drummers for their contributions...we may BOTH be on someone's hitlist now!...
I know you are entitled to your opinion, but i have to disagree. I think dave is the least versatile. He is amazing but he can't get out of that jazz fusion idiom. I can't see dave playing in a hard rock band, or a pop band and sound convincing. Yeah, i know he can "play" it but it's the sounding convincing part that I'm talking about. Vinnie played on a Megadeath album in 2004 and he sounds like a metal drummer while still sounding like vinnie...i just don't think dave can do that.
yeah, that's right.. one says Dennis Chambers can't swing, the other says that Vinnie Colaiuta doesn't sound good.. if these were jokes, it would be hilarious, but unfortunately, i think you are serious when writing these funny "statements". Maybe mr. Colauita here can take some lessons on how to "sound good" since he apparently didn't learn that in the 45 years he's been playing the drums..
No the main reason you don't see chambers in abig band is he can't swing. doesn't know the feel of the ride and licks. See him suck on the buddy memorial tribute? That says it all. Same old funky solos in the middle of a big band break. meanwhile stiff as my dick w/hot chick in the verse section. Stuck on funk junk
This isn't a fraction of Vinnie's capabilities. I think he's just blowing off a ton of crap. He's like that. Sometimes he just doesn't want to 'give'.
its a solo concept that he probably came up with as he was playing. a common practice amoung drummers. also, if you ask that "modern talent" who their drum hero's are vinnie's name would pop up a lot more than you'd think. we drummers 2day are only standing on the shoulders of giants like vinnie. vinnie(amoung others) str8 taught us young cat how 2 play without a single private lesson. theres no way 2 sound better than the guy you got it from.
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Nah. Dennis Chambers, Steve Smith, and Dave Weckl could give Vinnie a run for his money. Vinnie's not the best in all areas. Don't get me wrong though, he's an unbelievable drummer.
Has anybody noticed why Dennis Chambers hasn't played with the likes of Chick Corea,
or Herbie Hancock or Allan holdsworth!! You
ask....Why???...Because he doesn't know how to read!!! and that's pathetic!, given that he is a great funk and fusion player. Colaiuta, Weckl, and Smith... are not only great players, they can read and interpret "fly shit" when a piece of music is put in front of them. That's why you don't see Chambers playing in a "Swing" big band.
You guys must be pretty tight...had a lot of talks about his inability to read?? what a joke...one again kiddies this is an example of a 15 year old showing his age...
I would say that seeing Will Lee give Dennis direction in a tune is hardly proof that he can't read. Furthermore I have very rarely seen Vinnie use charts unless it's a studio session. I have seen Vinnie live with Jeff Beck and Jeff had to guide him through some spots in the show??? is that proof that VC can't read. Hardly...Think of the greats like JM and JS who has super difficult music that I am sure took Charts and help to figure out. Dennis my friend can read and you are making me tired...
wow what a hater, theres a reason why chambers is where he is now , and is among the greatest!!!. so what if he cant read music that well, im pretty sure he can play better than you ever will in your entire life.and then you call him pathetic, you wanna know whats pathetic you posting negative comments on you tube about extremly talented that are way better off the you are.
by the way great video vinnie rocked that drum set!!
haha lol YOUR 47, yea this comment really shows your maturity level, i swear haters are so piontless , why cant people like you acknoeledge the acomplashments people make instead of pointing out and magnafying their their flaws?
dennis chambers plays amazing music if you deniy that then then your an idiot or know absolutly nothing about drums.. oh yea get a life ,you would think after 47 years you would have one. now thats pathetic
dennis chambers cannot, i repeat, cannot read music!!! he admitted it in his latest video and if you go to drum channel there's an interview of him admitting it to terry bozzio. do your home work.
as a matter of fact terry asked him how he remembers all the music he's required 2 play and he said "its like remembering a conversation i had earlier with someone". i love dennis but truth is he's musically illiterate. but then again so was james brown and todd rungren and countless other musicians.
This is an absolutely insane video. Who cares whether you think he is better or worse than another drummer, can't everyone enjoy this for how incredible it is?
Read Vinnie's interview in Modern Drummer where he says to kill your idols.I totally agree, and although I am here enjoying Vinnie,I don't idolize him or think that I need to play like him or anyone else.He got to where he is by creating his own style. The other arguments about the "Greatest Drummer" are all moot points. The drummer plays for the audience, the music, not for other drummers,what would be the bennefit of a completely insulated identity such as that? How many non drummers are fans?
That's a great point and one that all drummers should understand. I have read that interview and vinnie got it spot on. However, i must admit i do try to look at how vinnie studies and what he learnt- not to necessarily play like him but to be able to understand how he approaches practice, technique etc. I bought that 'Unreel Drum Book' and it is easily one of the best tools i have ever used...the exercises really prepare you for applying your skills to odd time sigs and different styles.
Thanks, I'll try the Unreel Drum Book, sounds killer! I really wish I had the bandmates like he does, really nothing like playing with people who just can play solidly. But I used to debate my friends about who is the best, no one really, I like so many different styles, but I like Louie Belson over Buddy Rich just because he writes for the audience, and for his band mates who are phenoms!! Anyway,Thanks for the tip!! way cool of you!! Drum ON!!
This guy is just sick in my opinion the best drummer today! he just looks like he was born to play drums. His style, technique, creativity and ability are just incredible. You cannot possibly compare dennis chambers or dave weckl because they r very different drummers. wow...........
bravissimo,un metronomo nel cervello e 2mani e 2 piedi col turbo.. ma secondo me è gay. E le cartilagini del naso ormai le avrà consumate da tempo. Per carità, fatti suoi....... ;)
No offense, but there's no point in comparing Weckl and Chambers to Vinnie. Each is a master and each has their own particular style and we're lucky to be able to enjoy them all. I don't think it's possible to choose the 'best' drummer; I think they're all "bests."
Vinnie never ceases to amaze me. I remember around 1980 a drummer friend of mine telling me about this guy Vinnie Calaiuta coming on the scene who was obscenely good and would end up being one of the best drummers in the world. I just shrugged it off having never heard of him and sure enough Vinnie is and has been a world class drummer for years. As many have stated his technical brilliance is almost unmatched. Another Zappa guy too and that list of Bozzio, Wackerman, Thompson, etc. sure is cool
dave weckl and dennis chambers are both amazing drummers, but they don't have the time, feel and solidity that vinnie has. everything he plays, whether it be grooves or fills, etc, is super solid, clean and on time.
you could compare weckl and chambers, but neither of them can compare to vinnie.
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That's entirely subjective- I'd rather hear Dennis Chambers play funk than Vinnie and I'd rather hear Weckl play Latin than Vinnie. Vinnie doesn't have better time, feel or "solidity"- that's just nonsense people say to support their preference. And Weckl now that's he been studying with Gruber is arguably technically superior to Vinnie.
Frankly, give me Ari Hoenig and Brian Blade or any of those guys.
thank god we're allowed to have our own opinion. I would ABSOLUTELY HATE to hear Weckl play with Faith Hill or Sting. Sorry dude.....just because Weckl has been studying with Gruber...SO WHAT!!
Pretty sure Vinnie has studied with Grubber too. He's studied with all the masters it's just not publicly known like with Weckl.
Yes Dennis can play really well in the funk idiom but so can Vinnie!
I prefer to hear El Negro play Latin! He's from Cuba! (I met him once. It was great!)
As far as Ari and Brian, well, those guys are great with people like Shorter and PILC but their not really involved in so called 'Groove' idioms that much. Their careers have been more focused on so call...
OK I can't see my last post so I can't remember exactly where I was going =) but anyway, Ari and Brian generaly play in freer contexts then Vinnie. They're different types of artists and can't be compared. Just enjoyed for their different contributions.
As for Vinnie not having solid time! HAHAHA that's a no brainer and a joke! He's the most solid drummer out there. No one who really knows their shit would say he has bad time! Sorry!
Vinnie, Dennis, Ari, Weckl and Brian are all kings!
Vinnie studied with Richard Wilson, who bases his teachings from "... the standpoint of floors, balances, and fulcrums, observing the conclusions of Archimedes, Galileo, and Isaac Newton - using the acceleration of gravity and the theory of mass...." MD Apr '96. Vinnie knows what he's doing.
There is no true way of judging greatness in polite conversation. Each player has their high points. Back in the day Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Art Blakey and Louie Bellson had their duels with no clear "winner".(I'd take BR) It would be excellent to see all of our contemporary favs in a competition. I think it would illustrate that all of them most successfully wail....in their own way. We are fortunate to have the choices. DRUM ON and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. :- ))
Played on over 1000 albums, played on the Joan Rivers show, toured with Sting, currently tours with Jeff Beck and Herbie Hancock, and can play any style of music. He even played on a Megadeth ablum (The System Has Failed). The man can defy analysis
I actually held on to the 19/16 from 1:00 to 1:38, during that over-the-bar stuff!!! First time for me! I could actually hear what he is palying! Amazing that it's all really there, in place and articulate! Wow!
It's fun and tricky to solo over that Keep It Greasy riff. Vinnie is really good at internalizing those odd time figures and playing really comfortably over them. The bass line is very hard-hitting and the tempo is up there, so it's not really a space where you'll hear Vinnie's sensitivity...but he's got tons.
Make sure you check out, "Vinnie Colaiuta, Coldrum". It's not my download, but amazing Vinnie stuff, top of his game, and well recorded! You'll love it! Cheers!
I will have to disagree with all those who say he's the best. At this top level it is sooooo hard to choose but I will say the Steve Gaad is still no. 1; he might not be as technically gifted as Vinnie or Weckl but his solos are all full of rythm and accents that I can say he's the only one able to achieve.
when i was watching this i kinda "zoned out" for a bit if you see what i mean, and i realised something.. if youre just a general listener, not a drummer, you dont really pick up on WHY you like something, e.g. a song might have a really funky beat with loads of ghost notes etc, but lots of people wouldnt notice this - i think you really have to be a drummer to appreciate this kind of playing, whereas with steve gadd anyone can love it.. its the simple rhythm people love, not speed and 19/16..
but i hope im making myself clear - im not saying i dont love vinnies playing, just that i think its a lot more important to play things with rhythm than just to shred - but then again, this was at a "zildjian day" so the entire audience was drummers and would be amazed, so it depends on who your audience is as well. im just remembering my first ever drum lesson, and my teacher showed me a clip of buddy rich, and i remember not being that impressed.. i love it now but its good to remember this.
Brilliant said! (By the way, are you from Munich? Munich rocks!) As a drummer, I must say I don't like a solo like this; he burns all the way and there is no development throughout the solo. I wouldn't give him credit for dynamics either (in this clip). Well, my opinion.
nah im not - i cant remember why the hell i thought of that as a user name! probably just put the first random thing that came into my head. yeah i agree, but its still pretty amazing, and he can do a lot better imo. every solo cant be his best .
no , even tho this is a matter of opinion, vinnie has the SOULllll and chops. vinnie gets my top vote.... over weckl. sorry mate. also check out derico watson, he is sick
I agree. IMHO Weckl has a looot of technique, but that's it. I mean, he is an excellent drummer -I love his work with Corea's Elektric Band- but I think he puts technique over feeling (or Soul as xdux said). So that's why I wouldn't say Weckl is the best.
Vinie Vinie Vinie! what a class act this geeza is! I love listening to him, he is so unique and gets a great sound from his kit! My favourite drummer by far!
He switches forth and back between signatures... That yeah, do feel like keep it greasy, but i don't think he is playing on any particular time signature
Jesus, he's ridiculous!
Kyrindattara 2 weeks ago
I don't know why, but I've never been a huge fan. Obviouly he's great, but I'd rather listen to Weckl or JoJo Mayer do a solo. Maybe it's the sound of his drums...too muted or something. Give me Dave Weckl.
DCussen 7 months ago
If Vinnie read all of this competition banter among himself and his peers, he wouldn't dig it at all -- either would Steve Smith, Gadd, Weckl, Bozzio, and especially Freddie Gruber. Freddie would tell you all to " ... shut up, and play the fucking drums, man..."
harleymannix 8 months ago
Can anyone tell me what snare vinnie is using here??
Thanks..
RequiemDrums 9 months ago
Vinnie Colaiuta is in my book one of the all time greats up there with the likes of Buddy Rich AND Steve Gadd who is technically of genius quality.
towns73 10 months ago
The one and only-Vinnie Colaiuta!!!!!
TheNazar1979 10 months ago
holy mother of God! WHAT was THAT!?! "Amazing" doesn't seem enough to describe it.
headforthetropics 10 months ago
Yamaha, I knew it! I have his brilliant CD entitled Vinnie Colaiuta and it's quite good. I know he's switched to Gretsch drums but no matter what brand he plays, he's still Vinnie.
'It's not the drums, it's the drummer.' - Geoff Emerick.
WhyDoYouAskWhoIam 10 months ago
He's the best drummer Zappa ever had. He's probably the best drummer alive right now. - Terry Bozzio on Vinnie.
WhyDoYouAskWhoIam 10 months ago
George Kollias is much better than this shit
Ismaellira93 1 year ago
@Ismaellira93 George Kollias lacks groove. He can just play extremely quick. Like, a wall of sound.
ilikehockey13 1 year ago
@Ismaellira93 George Kollias wish he could play like this (in his dreams). Kollias lacks dynamics, flare, and is not very melodic at all. He's plays for speed (which is quite amazing) but then, it ends there. His solos are that of a teenager with mindless licks and absolutely no structure, whatsoever! You obviously don't know what your typing about.
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mydamy00 1 year ago
@mydamy00 you are so wrong
TheSilentManII 1 year ago 21
@TheSilentManII : reaction to "you are so wrong" I agree a degree, Portnoy is a hell off a drummer in another timbre witch he is better in than Vinnie, but what Vinnie shows here is what he is and no way ever Portnoy can beat that and vice versa (I'm for Vinnie, but's thats my , being me,
greetings klassiek1000
klassiek1000 11 months ago
@TheSilentManII : reaction to "you are so wrong" I agree a degree, Portnoy is a hell off a drummer in another timbre witch he is better in than Vinnie, but what Vinnie shows here is what he is and no way ever Portnoy can beat that and vice versa (I'm for Vinnie, but's thats me, being me,
greetings klassiek1000
klassiek1000 11 months ago
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@TheSilentManII I'm kidding! this is a joke, I play drums.. and Vinnie Colaiuta is better than mike!! but i'm kidding!!
mydamy00 10 months ago
@mydamy00 Pathetic -_-
ilikehockey13 1 year ago
Maybe at double bass
aiic222 1 year ago
@mydamy00 watch this video again, and try to appreciate the fact that half of what vinnie is playing is going completely over your head.
shaolinkungfu666 1 year ago
@mydamy00at what scale of values?
revisit your musical taste................ is better!
ciao!
3382marco 10 months ago
@mydamy00 Hey guys this is a joke!
mydamy00 10 months ago
@mydamy00 Go die please. Wanna borrow my gun?
lilhomiefolife 10 months ago
@lilhomiefolife I'm kidding! this is a joke, I play drums.. and Vinnie Colaiuta is better than mike!! but i'm kidding!
mydamy00 10 months ago
@mydamy00 LOLOLOL
sebz61 9 months ago
@mydamy00 LOL you dont know what the hell you re talking about , COLAIUTA>portnoy
daonpa 8 months ago
@mydamy00 When exactly has Portnoy been better? he's good but he just doesn't compare to Vinnie :)
ooberleegah 8 months ago
im here coz of megadeth. Great drummer,
Studas2006 1 year ago
@timdrms - It's the original and now discontinued Maple Customs he's playing here. Small square gold lugs and thicker shells than the Absolutes, and better sound.
gumbly 1 year ago
@timdrms
yes
TheMASDrummer 1 year ago
Man, I've got the complete version of this. There's a solo before this 19/16 solo/groove. Its Awesome!
JoEsp 1 year ago
@JoEsp why don't upload it...
steldrums87 1 year ago
@steldrums87 Sure. I'll upload it soon. Its also from a Zildjian Promo Vid some guy gave to me years ago.
JoEsp 1 year ago
@steldrums87 just uploaded it. "Vinnie Colaiuta Zildjian DAy Scotland '94. Enjoy.
JoEsp 1 year ago
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JoEsp 1 year ago
that snare has such a nice crack to it.
DyingSID666 1 year ago
For some that may not be enjoying this as much as they could, Vinnie's soloing in 19/16 (notice the little group of 3 after playing the 4/4 bar) and referencing a groove in that meter which he played on Joe's Garage, 1978 (Frank Zappa). Oh, and he's nailing it :D
stevenofcool 1 year ago
I hope to the Lord Himself that those three dislikes were accidents.
cokefanatics678 1 year ago
Travis Barker could......
fess04 1 year ago
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@fess04 could suck my balls!!!
w9jon 1 year ago
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@fess04- Suck donkey dick!
TheChiFlows 1 year ago
i agree...
steldrums87 1 year ago
Amen to that Bro.. Vinnie is indeed the best
marcusphenom31 1 year ago
beautiful snare sound
pollymatication 1 year ago
how about this: all u ppl who diss this guy r losers. u prolly hate drums and u want to dislike this guy cuz he's too awesome. well stop it!
PokemasterAngus 1 year ago
oh my god!!
hydroman78 1 year ago
yamaha?
cdc7891 1 year ago
I know some might not agree, but here it is anyway:
Vinnie's the best drummer in the world!
k thanks
sofakingrate 2 years ago 46
He's one of them :P
EliotKrupa 2 years ago
@sofakingrate you got it man, i think its 1. vinnie, 2. dennis chambers, and 3. Dave weckl.
lydianflatseven 1 year ago
@sofakingrate man...feel the same way. I typically can't stand to hear people to say so and so is the best anything. But without apology I really can say that Vinnie is the best.
mprimecoleman 1 year ago
La grosse classe, le père Vinnie, comme dab'.....!!!!
3dao95 2 years ago
Awesome solo............
bcwdrums 2 years ago
perfeito
baruk3D 2 years ago
One crazy cat! Pure expression! Thank God for Vinnie!
pubicsprout 2 years ago
A true artist doing what he does best!
I really can't resist it even if I wanted to :)
Hheawy 2 years ago
Vinnie Colaiuta, Terry Bozzio, Aynsley Dunbar, Chad Wackerman, Chester Thompson, Ralph humphrey, Art Tripp, Jimmy Carl Black...Zappa only ever used the best drummers in his band, to get through a Zappa audition and stay in his band for years took only the very best guys. World class talent and skill...
reldditmot 2 years ago 2
jimmy black must be the worst fucking drummer in the world
dressedtosmellgood 2 years ago
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Killer Vid!!!! You should come check out my solo and let me know what you think! Please rate it and comment! Thanks!!!!!
singer4thebypass 2 years ago
This solo is in 19/16 like a section of keep it greasy...
este solo esta en 19/16 como una seccion de keep it greasy
He is Awesome... who else can play all that over 19...and make it look easy...haha
BorniX 2 years ago
Me encanta Vinnie, al igual que este solo.
Soy un fan de Zappa y no puedo evitar relacionar casi todo lo que escucho con él...
Este solo me recuerda muchísimo al de "Don't You ever wash that thing?" del album en directo "Roxy & Elsewhere" (Lo siento pero no puedo evitarlo....) De todos modos para los que les guste el solo de Vinnie pueden escuchar el que os comento .(siento no poner un link, pero no encuentro en youtube la versión del Roxy..)..gracias por el video...
j123me123 2 years ago
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My cat, Ears, would smoke this dude.
Ears is spectacular and is a very angular and talented drummer. His fans call him Snake Head.
You wanna' know why my kitty's fans call him Snake Head? Because when he strikes the drums it's so fast that it dazzles the audience, who break out into cheers, laughter, merriment and crying.
Ears is that good.
This dude is OK, but Ears laughs at his basic level of playing.
Ears head resembles a snake when he plays. He darts around on stage. Real.
JoeJacari 2 years ago
any videos of this guy?
and "this dude" here btw is vinnie colaiuta.. and is more than just ok..yeah actually he is one of the best drummers in the world and of all time..
LHondrums 2 years ago
Wow! That may be the dumbest post of all time! Was that suppose to be funny? Unbelievable.
williamson609 2 years ago 4
what u say idiot¡
RaulGuereca 2 years ago
Amazinggg!!
Jecksnumber1 2 years ago
ohhhh my jodido dios q solo woooooooooooo me quito el sombrero
MrGERARDO234 2 years ago
I think his Yamaha back then sounded and looked cooler than his Grestch..
hugoribeiro 2 years ago 4
Vinnie is on the MEGADETH record THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED he is very versatile.
csfe00 2 years ago
Seen him live so many times xD
Vinnie is a god.....maybe
Vinnie is god =O
legend
sherbetdrummer 2 years ago
Never gave a damn about drum solos before but this guy is in the company of Neil Peart, Stu Copeland, and others ( that I haven't discovered yet) in terms of technical profciency and pure balls.
EllJayAitch 2 years ago
Better do more research on Colaiuta, he's in a totally different league than Copeland and Peart.
Check out the recordings Colaiuta's played on, go to his web site. No way in hell Peart or Copeland even come close to his skill level.
generatrix999 2 years ago 26
@generatrix999 yeah man. I hugely enjoy Peart and Copeland (especially Copeland!) and they are brilliant players. but from what I've heard, they are nowhere near as versatile as Vinnie and he has them scorched in the technique department. i heard somewhere that vinnie said he was a big fan of copeland but i bet they friggin worship vinnie.
lydianflatseven 9 months ago
quality,respectful,expressionism,artistic,honest,
honour,no cheat:),excuse me how come he plays that words ,me:PP.. may be is it about that his personality,who knows...
tbedir 2 years ago
Love Vinnie, especially on the album "Joe's Garage" (Frank Zappa, back in 1979).
This drummer is THE master of sight reading !
bwdrummer1980 2 years ago
dennis cant swing and vinnie doesnt sound good... fuck the world is in worse shape than I thought
mackfmocattack 2 years ago
That's what i'm talkin' about
mamel59 2 years ago
dont worry dave weckls not dead yet
rob4ra 2 years ago
Listen to Gavin Harrison and Morgan Agren. . .
should cheer you up a little bit.
angrypanda999 2 years ago
gavin is the fucking man! his fills are from heaven
paisteguy799 2 years ago
Yeah, and Morgan Ågren is from above heaven!
phoneboothplus1 2 years ago
dude i no
paisteguy799 2 years ago
Anyway, i like dave weckl better, but, that's my opinion!!!! don't kill me please lOl
mamel59 2 years ago 2
In my limited listening experience to Dennis, Vinnie, and Dave, I also feel Dave seems more skilled/versatile...but I STILL appreciate ALL 3 drummers for their contributions...we may BOTH be on someone's hitlist now!...
davss5 2 years ago
I agree!!!!
mamel59 2 years ago
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I know you are entitled to your opinion, but i have to disagree. I think dave is the least versatile. He is amazing but he can't get out of that jazz fusion idiom. I can't see dave playing in a hard rock band, or a pop band and sound convincing. Yeah, i know he can "play" it but it's the sounding convincing part that I'm talking about. Vinnie played on a Megadeath album in 2004 and he sounds like a metal drummer while still sounding like vinnie...i just don't think dave can do that.
joshdrums37 2 years ago
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sry 1 star ... technic 5 but it does not sound good ... a drummer has to sound good =)
voltototo 2 years ago
yeah, that's right.. one says Dennis Chambers can't swing, the other says that Vinnie Colaiuta doesn't sound good.. if these were jokes, it would be hilarious, but unfortunately, i think you are serious when writing these funny "statements". Maybe mr. Colauita here can take some lessons on how to "sound good" since he apparently didn't learn that in the 45 years he's been playing the drums..
alright28 2 years ago 4
Lol!! Yea man, there are some real idiots on here and you just can't get a point across or anything through there head.
silasjones04 2 years ago
No the main reason you don't see chambers in abig band is he can't swing. doesn't know the feel of the ride and licks. See him suck on the buddy memorial tribute? That says it all. Same old funky solos in the middle of a big band break. meanwhile stiff as my dick w/hot chick in the verse section. Stuck on funk junk
rrdrums110 2 years ago
chambers cant swing?! are you deaf?!!!
OnTheRoof1 2 years ago 2
Next time I see Dennis, I'll tell him rrdrums110 said to work on his swing "feel". hhaha
Classic:)
Croatch 2 years ago 2
Maybe he can ask mike stern if he can swing, or many of the jazz greats that has played with him
mamel59 2 years ago
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Awesome!! NOW WATCH MY DRUM SOLOOOOOOOO!!! (comment if you want.. thanks..)
mercyalex 2 years ago
This isn't a fraction of Vinnie's capabilities. I think he's just blowing off a ton of crap. He's like that. Sometimes he just doesn't want to 'give'.
givinitsome 2 years ago 2
12" Hihats....... nice.
ljones56974 3 years ago
Vinnie on Yamaha, normally he's playing gretsch. Nice playing anyway, and year toms sounds nice...
soduno 3 years ago
Vinnie played yamaha before he went with Gretsch ... he had his signature snare with yamaha .. he played with yamaha for a long time actually !
miketales 3 years ago 2
Wow the toms sound really open
zolideathmetal 3 years ago
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Weckl is wayyyyyy better!
JonnyBarba9 3 years ago
HAHAHA funny
KarlovackoFan 3 years ago
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Great drummer but way too much snare. Lots of modern talent thats sounds much better IMO.
peuknee 3 years ago
its a solo concept that he probably came up with as he was playing. a common practice amoung drummers. also, if you ask that "modern talent" who their drum hero's are vinnie's name would pop up a lot more than you'd think. we drummers 2day are only standing on the shoulders of giants like vinnie. vinnie(amoung others) str8 taught us young cat how 2 play without a single private lesson. theres no way 2 sound better than the guy you got it from.
marc777danielle 3 years ago 5
You dont know nothing about drumming,or you dont know what are you talking about!
KarlovackoFan 3 years ago
Really...who that has street cred.
cpdrumming 3 years ago
Zildijan day? Looks more like Pasties to me. can't really tell though
WuTangClan69 3 years ago
If you don't know how to spell Paiste for a start, then it's really no surprise that you know no difference between Paiste and Zildjian.
JezenThomas 3 years ago
Lol, I thought that was a backhanded insult at the fact that this was an event held by Scots.
The thought of mounting a pasty on a cymbal stand playing it is amusing though.
jonescrusher1 3 years ago
Says Zildjian right on the cymbals
harmtouch 3 years ago
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Nah. Dennis Chambers, Steve Smith, and Dave Weckl could give Vinnie a run for his money. Vinnie's not the best in all areas. Don't get me wrong though, he's an unbelievable drummer.
Ardent15 3 years ago
Has anybody noticed why Dennis Chambers hasn't played with the likes of Chick Corea,
or Herbie Hancock or Allan holdsworth!! You
ask....Why???...Because he doesn't know how to read!!! and that's pathetic!, given that he is a great funk and fusion player. Colaiuta, Weckl, and Smith... are not only great players, they can read and interpret "fly shit" when a piece of music is put in front of them. That's why you don't see Chambers playing in a "Swing" big band.
sticktrik 3 years ago
You guys must be pretty tight...had a lot of talks about his inability to read?? what a joke...one again kiddies this is an example of a 15 year old showing his age...
cpdrumming 3 years ago
Okay Genius...Mr Bigshot..I-know-everything about-drums!!,and drummers!! Prove to me Chamber's can read!!I've sen him on numerous
"live" gigs and in many videos,and I've
NEVER seen a chart in front of him!!
The biggest laugh I had was,seeing him play
in a Buddy Rich memorial concert video,and
Will Lee had to "coach" him through a big band arrangement, because he has NO reading
chops!... I'll await your response Einstein!!
sticktrik 3 years ago
I would say that seeing Will Lee give Dennis direction in a tune is hardly proof that he can't read. Furthermore I have very rarely seen Vinnie use charts unless it's a studio session. I have seen Vinnie live with Jeff Beck and Jeff had to guide him through some spots in the show??? is that proof that VC can't read. Hardly...Think of the greats like JM and JS who has super difficult music that I am sure took Charts and help to figure out. Dennis my friend can read and you are making me tired...
cpdrumming 3 years ago
Yeah your right!!! Dennis can read..... The daily newspaper!!That's about it!!By the way!
.... I never said Colaiuta couldn't read!! so
stop smoking crack!!...,and If your tired,maybe you should go to sleep,instead of replying to postings on YouTube!!
sticktrik 3 years ago
wow what a hater, theres a reason why chambers is where he is now , and is among the greatest!!!. so what if he cant read music that well, im pretty sure he can play better than you ever will in your entire life.and then you call him pathetic, you wanna know whats pathetic you posting negative comments on you tube about extremly talented that are way better off the you are.
by the way great video vinnie rocked that drum set!!
y0ung1s 3 years ago
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Shut the fuck up!!!! you fuckin 19 year old PUNK!!!! Go play with your G.I.Joe doll!!!!
sticktrik 3 years ago
haha lol YOUR 47, yea this comment really shows your maturity level, i swear haters are so piontless , why cant people like you acknoeledge the acomplashments people make instead of pointing out and magnafying their their flaws?
dennis chambers plays amazing music if you deniy that then then your an idiot or know absolutly nothing about drums.. oh yea get a life ,you would think after 47 years you would have one. now thats pathetic
y0ung1s 3 years ago 2
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Go FUCK YOURSELF DICKHEAD!!!!! And go back
to school and learn how to SPELL!!!!
That will be the day I'll take advice from a
SNOT-RAG PUNK kid LIKE YOU!!
sticktrik 3 years ago
dennis chambers cannot, i repeat, cannot read music!!! he admitted it in his latest video and if you go to drum channel there's an interview of him admitting it to terry bozzio. do your home work.
marc777danielle 3 years ago
as a matter of fact terry asked him how he remembers all the music he's required 2 play and he said "its like remembering a conversation i had earlier with someone". i love dennis but truth is he's musically illiterate. but then again so was james brown and todd rungren and countless other musicians.
marc777danielle 3 years ago
vinnie's light years ahead of everyone else.
end of discussion.
cheers~!
Lifesucksdie123 3 years ago
hits china just like jojo mayer or the other way around
Thomlistentoslayer 3 years ago
This is an absolutely insane video. Who cares whether you think he is better or worse than another drummer, can't everyone enjoy this for how incredible it is?
lutzacca 3 years ago 3
Read Vinnie's interview in Modern Drummer where he says to kill your idols.I totally agree, and although I am here enjoying Vinnie,I don't idolize him or think that I need to play like him or anyone else.He got to where he is by creating his own style. The other arguments about the "Greatest Drummer" are all moot points. The drummer plays for the audience, the music, not for other drummers,what would be the bennefit of a completely insulated identity such as that? How many non drummers are fans?
NovaNeolith 3 years ago 3
That's a great point and one that all drummers should understand. I have read that interview and vinnie got it spot on. However, i must admit i do try to look at how vinnie studies and what he learnt- not to necessarily play like him but to be able to understand how he approaches practice, technique etc. I bought that 'Unreel Drum Book' and it is easily one of the best tools i have ever used...the exercises really prepare you for applying your skills to odd time sigs and different styles.
mydogkanskidrums 3 years ago 2
Thanks, I'll try the Unreel Drum Book, sounds killer! I really wish I had the bandmates like he does, really nothing like playing with people who just can play solidly. But I used to debate my friends about who is the best, no one really, I like so many different styles, but I like Louie Belson over Buddy Rich just because he writes for the audience, and for his band mates who are phenoms!! Anyway,Thanks for the tip!! way cool of you!! Drum ON!!
NovaNeolith 3 years ago
This guy is just sick in my opinion the best drummer today! he just looks like he was born to play drums. His style, technique, creativity and ability are just incredible. You cannot possibly compare dennis chambers or dave weckl because they r very different drummers. wow...........
Thatnorthernboy 3 years ago
Vinnie is ,without any doubt, in the elite of alltime musicians, powerful, solid and percise BUT HE RAPES HIS KIT!
ConverseTM 3 years ago 6
qualcuno può dirgli di venire a casa mia domani? che magari supera il provino per entrare nella mia band... alle 16 e 30 eh...
davidegrollo 3 years ago
bravissimo,un metronomo nel cervello e 2mani e 2 piedi col turbo.. ma secondo me è gay. E le cartilagini del naso ormai le avrà consumate da tempo. Per carità, fatti suoi....... ;)
giuliosim 3 years ago
No offense, but there's no point in comparing Weckl and Chambers to Vinnie. Each is a master and each has their own particular style and we're lucky to be able to enjoy them all. I don't think it's possible to choose the 'best' drummer; I think they're all "bests."
jimruffi 3 years ago
Vinnie never ceases to amaze me. I remember around 1980 a drummer friend of mine telling me about this guy Vinnie Calaiuta coming on the scene who was obscenely good and would end up being one of the best drummers in the world. I just shrugged it off having never heard of him and sure enough Vinnie is and has been a world class drummer for years. As many have stated his technical brilliance is almost unmatched. Another Zappa guy too and that list of Bozzio, Wackerman, Thompson, etc. sure is cool
SterlingRe 3 years ago 3
dave weckl and dennis chambers are both amazing drummers, but they don't have the time, feel and solidity that vinnie has. everything he plays, whether it be grooves or fills, etc, is super solid, clean and on time.
you could compare weckl and chambers, but neither of them can compare to vinnie.
mdrndrumr 3 years ago 3
in my opinion, weckl has a better feel.
chrisdrums99 3 years ago
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That's entirely subjective- I'd rather hear Dennis Chambers play funk than Vinnie and I'd rather hear Weckl play Latin than Vinnie. Vinnie doesn't have better time, feel or "solidity"- that's just nonsense people say to support their preference. And Weckl now that's he been studying with Gruber is arguably technically superior to Vinnie.
Frankly, give me Ari Hoenig and Brian Blade or any of those guys.
TheLastPictureShow 3 years ago
thank god we're allowed to have our own opinion. I would ABSOLUTELY HATE to hear Weckl play with Faith Hill or Sting. Sorry dude.....just because Weckl has been studying with Gruber...SO WHAT!!
ebbertgepner 3 years ago 3
Yeah, SO WHAT!!! indeed.
TheLastPictureShow 3 years ago
hater
rob4ra 3 years ago
What Gruber? Martin Gruber?
GreggaryPeccary 3 years ago
No, Freddie Gruber. Forget it...
GreggaryPeccary 3 years ago
Pretty sure Vinnie has studied with Grubber too. He's studied with all the masters it's just not publicly known like with Weckl.
Yes Dennis can play really well in the funk idiom but so can Vinnie!
I prefer to hear El Negro play Latin! He's from Cuba! (I met him once. It was great!)
As far as Ari and Brian, well, those guys are great with people like Shorter and PILC but their not really involved in so called 'Groove' idioms that much. Their careers have been more focused on so call...
lollieszone 3 years ago
OK I can't see my last post so I can't remember exactly where I was going =) but anyway, Ari and Brian generaly play in freer contexts then Vinnie. They're different types of artists and can't be compared. Just enjoyed for their different contributions.
As for Vinnie not having solid time! HAHAHA that's a no brainer and a joke! He's the most solid drummer out there. No one who really knows their shit would say he has bad time! Sorry!
Vinnie, Dennis, Ari, Weckl and Brian are all kings!
lollieszone 3 years ago
Vinnie studied with Richard Wilson, who bases his teachings from "... the standpoint of floors, balances, and fulcrums, observing the conclusions of Archimedes, Galileo, and Isaac Newton - using the acceleration of gravity and the theory of mass...." MD Apr '96. Vinnie knows what he's doing.
danlc95 3 years ago 6
There is no true way of judging greatness in polite conversation. Each player has their high points. Back in the day Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Art Blakey and Louie Bellson had their duels with no clear "winner".(I'd take BR) It would be excellent to see all of our contemporary favs in a competition. I think it would illustrate that all of them most successfully wail....in their own way. We are fortunate to have the choices. DRUM ON and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. :- ))
ikarooz 3 years ago 7
right on bro'!
kirk7524875248 3 years ago 2
What a fantastic, beautiful groove in 19/16...just nobody else can do that!!!
loverman135 3 years ago
marco minneman could do that. He specializes in odd times signatures but vinnie is still my favorite.
prettythuggi 3 years ago
Played on over 1000 albums, played on the Joan Rivers show, toured with Sting, currently tours with Jeff Beck and Herbie Hancock, and can play any style of music. He even played on a Megadeth ablum (The System Has Failed). The man can defy analysis
DBP92 3 years ago 3
Pure best
polyrhythmic1 3 years ago
ZEETS IS GOD !
zappalaney 3 years ago
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dave weckl
rob4ra 3 years ago
there is no drummer better than vinnie colaiuta living alive today.
anyone who thinks otherwise needs their brain checked.
mdrndrumr 3 years ago
im with you mdrndrumr
Decapitated22 3 years ago
what about dennis chambers , and dave weckl?
EliotKrupa 3 years ago
I actually held on to the 19/16 from 1:00 to 1:38, during that over-the-bar stuff!!! First time for me! I could actually hear what he is palying! Amazing that it's all really there, in place and articulate! Wow!
kirk7524875248 3 years ago
Friggin insane drummer and insane drumming. One of the best no matter how you slice it gang!!!
Symmetry44 3 years ago 2
It's fun and tricky to solo over that Keep It Greasy riff. Vinnie is really good at internalizing those odd time figures and playing really comfortably over them. The bass line is very hard-hitting and the tempo is up there, so it's not really a space where you'll hear Vinnie's sensitivity...but he's got tons.
jimruffi 3 years ago 2
Man, well said Bro'! You took the words right out of my mouth! Very articulate. Nice to see someone understanding this stuff so well!
kirk7524875248 3 years ago
Make sure you check out, "Vinnie Colaiuta, Coldrum". It's not my download, but amazing Vinnie stuff, top of his game, and well recorded! You'll love it! Cheers!
kirk7524875248 3 years ago
I will have to disagree with all those who say he's the best. At this top level it is sooooo hard to choose but I will say the Steve Gaad is still no. 1; he might not be as technically gifted as Vinnie or Weckl but his solos are all full of rythm and accents that I can say he's the only one able to achieve.
adenova2710 3 years ago 2
when i was watching this i kinda "zoned out" for a bit if you see what i mean, and i realised something.. if youre just a general listener, not a drummer, you dont really pick up on WHY you like something, e.g. a song might have a really funky beat with loads of ghost notes etc, but lots of people wouldnt notice this - i think you really have to be a drummer to appreciate this kind of playing, whereas with steve gadd anyone can love it.. its the simple rhythm people love, not speed and 19/16..
munichmunich 3 years ago
but i hope im making myself clear - im not saying i dont love vinnies playing, just that i think its a lot more important to play things with rhythm than just to shred - but then again, this was at a "zildjian day" so the entire audience was drummers and would be amazed, so it depends on who your audience is as well. im just remembering my first ever drum lesson, and my teacher showed me a clip of buddy rich, and i remember not being that impressed.. i love it now but its good to remember this.
munichmunich 3 years ago
Brilliant said! (By the way, are you from Munich? Munich rocks!) As a drummer, I must say I don't like a solo like this; he burns all the way and there is no development throughout the solo. I wouldn't give him credit for dynamics either (in this clip). Well, my opinion.
Felix
bigfatbobby 3 years ago
nah im not - i cant remember why the hell i thought of that as a user name! probably just put the first random thing that came into my head. yeah i agree, but its still pretty amazing, and he can do a lot better imo. every solo cant be his best .
sunsimotus 3 years ago
That's 19/16, not 7/8... He's just AMAZING!
jorgecidrummer 3 years ago
OMG its that posible?....
omarfusion 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing this!!!
Vinnie is just a bottomless pit of ideas....and that left hand!!
YOW!
BedBeats 3 years ago
i don't know why this drummer reminds me dave weckel, steve gadd. but he'es good this the first time i wacht a video from vinnie so that's opinion.
gerdrummer 3 years ago
Gooooooooooooood!!!!! But Weckl is the best... ;)
ceckdrum 3 years ago
no , even tho this is a matter of opinion, vinnie has the SOULllll and chops. vinnie gets my top vote.... over weckl. sorry mate. also check out derico watson, he is sick
xdux 3 years ago
I agree. IMHO Weckl has a looot of technique, but that's it. I mean, he is an excellent drummer -I love his work with Corea's Elektric Band- but I think he puts technique over feeling (or Soul as xdux said). So that's why I wouldn't say Weckl is the best.
TheSilentManII 3 years ago
Vinie Vinie Vinie! what a class act this geeza is! I love listening to him, he is so unique and gets a great sound from his kit! My favourite drummer by far!
Thatnorthernboy 3 years ago
It's all in the Fingers boys and gals... GREAT STUFF!!! Check out Chad Szeliga... He does some great cymbal rolls, it's his trademark great stuff...
EVERYONE KEEP BEATIN!!!!
hornets4life 3 years ago
He is playing free tempo =]
He switches forth and back between signatures... That yeah, do feel like keep it greasy, but i don't think he is playing on any particular time signature
mamonzillo 4 years ago