also, i notice the negative side ( hydrogen) seems more pronounced with edges... ie threaded rod. Another thought, the oxygen atom is what? 16 times larger than hydrogen. How about creating that ratio in surface area for negative and postive electrodes.
I also like the idea of free flowing water thru the cells. Also like that you usually oppose the + and - electrodes, at the end plates. That would polarize and attract H to one extreme, O to the other, speeding dissociation. And that leakage is not so bad if we ant to polarize our cell like a magnet... Next step would be using semiconducting organic polymer gaskets... keep up the good job!
Its been great watching how you have prodressed and hope that your be posting your next video soon.
From watching other videos one thing you should consider is using insulated Copper down to the plates as Stainless Steel is not a very good Conductor and you may be increasing your current.
I am sure you have considered this and simple ohms law should be used taking the resistance of the material to the point you apply the load (plates).
If the slots are beneficial then why not buy perforated SS sheets. The one that is full of holes. Im guessing that holes will work better than slots? When we talk about more energy (bad ratio) is it something that will compleatly drain the battery? if not then you can build a smaller generator by using this idea and still get the LPM needed. Im new to this, So maybe someone can explane? thanks
I think that when the current passes over the services of both sides, and meet at the edges, there is a greater current happining at that very point. thus creating more heat and hho gas :-)
Great research work, every idea must be tested and verified , even expecteing to have troubles , even if finally we just understand why it does not work , just imagine a world with everyone accepting old ideas as an absolute true ..... Go ahead PLEASE ..
you should also consider efficiency, not just production volume. 2 plate cell, is a water heater, it produce a lot, but consumes way too much, low efficiency.
Dear: Fuzzy, I think you have already proven that something different happens, when you put the split rubber tubing on the edeges. I think you made more production with less amps. I could be rong, but I do not think so.
hi fizzy, try throwing 2 volts at this and see what happens, approx. 2 volts beeing what seems most efficient per plate gap.
i assume you are using 12 volts here whereby the current would use the edges as the shortest way to travel between plates. it will probably generate a lot of heat quite soon.
Well the stop-motion is great! Excellent clarification on where production begins.. So please do continue with it, i am really curious on the results from a comparison test :)
I'm really looking forward to your production results once you get this setup into your normal testing environment. I still think you will see better results from a solid neutral plate to force the electricity to spread out. The gaps in the neutral plates would look to be an open short to me, but then again, if your electrolyte solution has a higher resistance than your SS plates, the electricity will follow the path of least resistance.
the electricity leaves the plates edges more readily than the flat surface, but there is less hho production per watt from the electricity leaving the edges than the electricity leaving the face. put some good black electrical tape on the edges, or dip them in marine goop sealant and then do the same test, nice analysis.
BOB boice pdf he says that you need to cross scratch the plates with sanding them with 60 grit sand paper or you can sand blast them to increase the surface area and to hel detach the bubbles
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Curious....why has it been over 2 yrs since you've posted anything...hoping all is well
neoandie 1 year ago
Curious....why has it been over 2 yrs since you've posted anything...hoping all is well
neoandie 1 year ago
also, i notice the negative side ( hydrogen) seems more pronounced with edges... ie threaded rod. Another thought, the oxygen atom is what? 16 times larger than hydrogen. How about creating that ratio in surface area for negative and postive electrodes.
stormcrow70 1 year ago
Fiiiiiizzzzzzzzzyyyyyyy (where's our new video) GREAT WORK SO FAR
pouderbern 2 years ago
I also like the idea of free flowing water thru the cells. Also like that you usually oppose the + and - electrodes, at the end plates. That would polarize and attract H to one extreme, O to the other, speeding dissociation. And that leakage is not so bad if we ant to polarize our cell like a magnet... Next step would be using semiconducting organic polymer gaskets... keep up the good job!
rboos 2 years ago
Hi Fizzy
Its been great watching how you have prodressed and hope that your be posting your next video soon.
From watching other videos one thing you should consider is using insulated Copper down to the plates as Stainless Steel is not a very good Conductor and you may be increasing your current.
I am sure you have considered this and simple ohms law should be used taking the resistance of the material to the point you apply the load (plates).
Regards
David UK
pilotpa28 2 years ago
If the slots are beneficial then why not buy perforated SS sheets. The one that is full of holes. Im guessing that holes will work better than slots? When we talk about more energy (bad ratio) is it something that will compleatly drain the battery? if not then you can build a smaller generator by using this idea and still get the LPM needed. Im new to this, So maybe someone can explane? thanks
Labestone 2 years ago
clean your unit with CLR
43767 3 years ago
So have you Abandoned us ???
333Loner 3 years ago
Any news on this for us Fizzy? I'm curious as to what additional conclusions you have from this type of cell.
jameslmorehead 3 years ago
I think that when the current passes over the services of both sides, and meet at the edges, there is a greater current happining at that very point. thus creating more heat and hho gas :-)
333Loner 3 years ago
Sooo! When are you going back to work???
333Loner 3 years ago
Great research work, every idea must be tested and verified , even expecteing to have troubles , even if finally we just understand why it does not work , just imagine a world with everyone accepting old ideas as an absolute true ..... Go ahead PLEASE ..
daniel2008C 3 years ago
you should also consider efficiency, not just production volume. 2 plate cell, is a water heater, it produce a lot, but consumes way too much, low efficiency.
h2oreactor 3 years ago
Dear: Fuzzy, I think you have already proven that something different happens, when you put the split rubber tubing on the edeges. I think you made more production with less amps. I could be rong, but I do not think so.
333Loner 3 years ago
All you have done is expose a scracthed and most of all CLEAN surface AS WELL AS increased surface area
TrueSoft4HHO 3 years ago
Hi fizzy... Leakage I think too is a good thing I think many have a similar idea in that they scratch or scuff their plates. keep up the good work
midget116 3 years ago
hi fizzy, try throwing 2 volts at this and see what happens, approx. 2 volts beeing what seems most efficient per plate gap.
i assume you are using 12 volts here whereby the current would use the edges as the shortest way to travel between plates. it will probably generate a lot of heat quite soon.
hhouk 3 years ago
Good work keep going!
Banyan23 3 years ago
great research and i would like to see more of your work
rickeg6 3 years ago
I like the stop action. Shows a lot more detail than at normal speed.
lutherp40 3 years ago
Well the stop-motion is great! Excellent clarification on where production begins.. So please do continue with it, i am really curious on the results from a comparison test :)
InventorGadget 3 years ago
Nice work, nice video, nice stop frame, nice explanation.
BUT!!!
Efficiency boils down to MMW.
An A:B comparison experiment will prove the point.
Anything else is conjecture.
My 0.02
BoyntonStu
Boyntonstu 3 years ago
I'm really looking forward to your production results once you get this setup into your normal testing environment. I still think you will see better results from a solid neutral plate to force the electricity to spread out. The gaps in the neutral plates would look to be an open short to me, but then again, if your electrolyte solution has a higher resistance than your SS plates, the electricity will follow the path of least resistance.
jameslmorehead 3 years ago
the electricity leaves the plates edges more readily than the flat surface, but there is less hho production per watt from the electricity leaving the edges than the electricity leaving the face. put some good black electrical tape on the edges, or dip them in marine goop sealant and then do the same test, nice analysis.
d3adp001 3 years ago
BOB boice pdf he says that you need to cross scratch the plates with sanding them with 60 grit sand paper or you can sand blast them to increase the surface area and to hel detach the bubbles
najman100 3 years ago
hi najman 100. sandblasting warps the plates. ive tried. i've used a wire wheel on a grinder, much quicker! i do agree, a rough surface helps. fizzy
FIZZYH2O 3 years ago