@FieldMarshalRommel23 What about circumstantial evidence that places YOU as the only suspect? Trust me it happens. Thank God for Scotland's Not Proven verdict.
As much as I oppose to the death penalty, I have to concede the Bristish were far more professional in how they carried it out than the Americans will ever be.
We have to note that a number of British hangings up to the 1950's were also botched (although not at the hands of Pierrepoint) but it was kept secret until people started writing memoirs decades later. British executions (unlike Americans) was lonely informal affairs not allowed to be witnessed by the press or public. If the Nuremberg hangings were conducted by the British it would have been in total secrecy like the Bergen Belsen hangings.
@knutgordon - Hanging is an art more than a science, so that will have happened. The point I was trying to make was that the British system - at least in the 20th Century - was to get it over with as quickly as possible. Pierrepoint would enter the cell when the clock started striking eight and have the prisoner at the end of the rope before it finished.
Compare that with the American practice of leaving the prisoner bound on the gurney for about an hour prior to execution, then reading out the warrant to the prisoner and putting on this whole macabre performance. There is no need for it. As much as I oppose the death penalty, I say when you are going to do it, just get on with it, for everyone's sake. As soon as the prisoner is restrained, it should be over and done with in seconds.
Yes, In 20th century Britain, the whole process was over very quickly and every effort was made to minimize the criminal's mental and physical suffering. Pierrepoint was an interesting man. Determined to following in his father's and uncle's part time work tradition which he carried out with a dispassionate professionalism, efficiency and pride.
@knutgordon - His autobiography 'Pierrepoint: Executioner' is well worth reading. Amongst other things, it shows the film took liberties on more than one occasion.
I think the movie borrowed heavily from Syd Dernley book The Hangman's Tale. A well made movie, but don't follow his autobiography very closely and is somewhat factually inaccurate. The main thrust of the film - that he resigned because of having to hang a friend is nonsense and his emotional distress and anti death penalty stance at the end is questionable. Still, the movie do show how different the Brit way of hanging was from the the Hollywood acts.
Albert Pierrepoint was not the last hangman but was he was the most prolific. The last executions were carried out simultaneously by Jock Stewart and Harry Allen at Liverpool Walton and Manchester Strangeways in August1964.
A remarkable co-incidence occured in 1947 when Pierrepoint was walking down Charlotte Street in Covent Garden, London. As he passed a jewellers on the opposite side of the street, armed robbers emerged and the heroic Mr de Antiquis pulled up his motorcycle in order to apprehend them He was shot dead. It shocked the nation. Even "career" criminals had a "code" of conduct and assisted police. Pierrepoint duly came to hang the culprits.
ex- New Scotland Yard Crime (nee Black) Museum staff.
thank you for your response.i'm merely referring to my opinion of what i read in his book.you may well be right,but perhaps if you read it [i'm not sure which one-so long ago],you might form a different opinion.i do,however,stand to be corrected regards.
was'nt he hired by the irish govt. to hang irish people?i read his book in which he professed a hatred for his job.yet,this short book indicates-to me-his love/enjoyment of it!
les stewart was also the last equal no1 along with harry allen, although allen carried out the majority of sentences. they both carried out the last executions in england on 13 august 1964, when peter anthony allen was hanged by stewart whilst gwyn owen evans alias john robson walby was hanged by allen.
@mywheelchairone69 yes - Harry Allen hanged Gwynne Evans in Strangeways, and Robert L. Stewart hanged Peter Allen at Walton Jail, Liverpool at the same time on August 13th, 1964
As a human being (and I use the word ''human being'' very loosely in your case) you should be utterly ashamed by your comment to treat political murder so casually by trying to inject humour. SHAME ON YOU! :(
Would you say the same of people who carry out executions all over the world now?
An execution is state sponsored murder to satisfy the feeling of public revenge and the sadistic blood lust of a population. You should be ashamed of yourself. :(
I'd be hugely in favour of public hangins for sex offenders and aggrivated murderers etc. Firing squad for the more honourable offenders!
FieldMarshalRommel23 4 weeks ago
@FieldMarshalRommel23 What about circumstantial evidence that places YOU as the only suspect? Trust me it happens. Thank God for Scotland's Not Proven verdict.
Kelly14UK 1 week ago
As much as I oppose to the death penalty, I have to concede the Bristish were far more professional in how they carried it out than the Americans will ever be.
kiwipreacher 1 month ago
@kiwipreacher
We have to note that a number of British hangings up to the 1950's were also botched (although not at the hands of Pierrepoint) but it was kept secret until people started writing memoirs decades later. British executions (unlike Americans) was lonely informal affairs not allowed to be witnessed by the press or public. If the Nuremberg hangings were conducted by the British it would have been in total secrecy like the Bergen Belsen hangings.
knutgordon 1 month ago
@knutgordon - Hanging is an art more than a science, so that will have happened. The point I was trying to make was that the British system - at least in the 20th Century - was to get it over with as quickly as possible. Pierrepoint would enter the cell when the clock started striking eight and have the prisoner at the end of the rope before it finished.
kiwipreacher 1 month ago
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Compare that with the American practice of leaving the prisoner bound on the gurney for about an hour prior to execution, then reading out the warrant to the prisoner and putting on this whole macabre performance. There is no need for it. As much as I oppose the death penalty, I say when you are going to do it, just get on with it, for everyone's sake. As soon as the prisoner is restrained, it should be over and done with in seconds.
kiwipreacher 1 month ago
@kiwipreacher
Yes, In 20th century Britain, the whole process was over very quickly and every effort was made to minimize the criminal's mental and physical suffering. Pierrepoint was an interesting man. Determined to following in his father's and uncle's part time work tradition which he carried out with a dispassionate professionalism, efficiency and pride.
knutgordon 1 month ago
@knutgordon - His autobiography 'Pierrepoint: Executioner' is well worth reading. Amongst other things, it shows the film took liberties on more than one occasion.
kiwipreacher 1 month ago
@kiwipreacher
I think the movie borrowed heavily from Syd Dernley book The Hangman's Tale. A well made movie, but don't follow his autobiography very closely and is somewhat factually inaccurate. The main thrust of the film - that he resigned because of having to hang a friend is nonsense and his emotional distress and anti death penalty stance at the end is questionable. Still, the movie do show how different the Brit way of hanging was from the the Hollywood acts.
knutgordon 1 month ago
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kiwipreacher 1 month ago
Albert Pierrepoint was not the last hangman but was he was the most prolific. The last executions were carried out simultaneously by Jock Stewart and Harry Allen at Liverpool Walton and Manchester Strangeways in August1964.
MrCky123 2 months ago
epic, i fking love the death penalty as a story line. A replusive act by the state in reality, but for that reason so fking fascinating.
richrichrichism 2 months ago
loving the ITV theme at the begining ha ha ha
FILMMAKERCHAP 5 months ago
@FILMMAKERCHAP ITV theme lol I just been experimenting with diff intros. hope you enjoyed the show
videomonkey2009 5 months ago
A remarkable co-incidence occured in 1947 when Pierrepoint was walking down Charlotte Street in Covent Garden, London. As he passed a jewellers on the opposite side of the street, armed robbers emerged and the heroic Mr de Antiquis pulled up his motorcycle in order to apprehend them He was shot dead. It shocked the nation. Even "career" criminals had a "code" of conduct and assisted police. Pierrepoint duly came to hang the culprits.
ex- New Scotland Yard Crime (nee Black) Museum staff.
noonsight2010 5 months ago
express777100 is correct.
ex New Scotland yard Crime (nee Black) Museum staff.
noonsight2010 5 months ago
thank you for your response.i'm merely referring to my opinion of what i read in his book.you may well be right,but perhaps if you read it [i'm not sure which one-so long ago],you might form a different opinion.i do,however,stand to be corrected regards.
johnjock1948 6 months ago
@johnjock1948 All opinions and comments apreciated. Thanks for comment anyway hope you enjoy the show
videomonkey2009 6 months ago
was'nt he hired by the irish govt. to hang irish people?i read his book in which he professed a hatred for his job.yet,this short book indicates-to me-his love/enjoyment of it!
johnjock1948 6 months ago
@johnjock1948 I dont think he got a kick out of it because he tried to keep it quiet, but if he didnt do it then someones else sure would have.
videomonkey2009 6 months ago
les stewart was also the last equal no1 along with harry allen, although allen carried out the majority of sentences. they both carried out the last executions in england on 13 august 1964, when peter anthony allen was hanged by stewart whilst gwyn owen evans alias john robson walby was hanged by allen.
express777100 6 months ago
Albert wasn't the last British executioner,it was Harry Allen,officiating between 1941 and 1964.
mywheelchairone69 7 months ago
@mywheelchairone69 ....along with R.L Stewart
sockington1 3 months ago
@sockington1 Thank you.........I didn't know that.
mywheelchairone69 3 months ago
@mywheelchairone69 yes - Harry Allen hanged Gwynne Evans in Strangeways, and Robert L. Stewart hanged Peter Allen at Walton Jail, Liverpool at the same time on August 13th, 1964
sockington1 3 months ago
LWT music.....nice :)
steponitbill 7 months ago
Always nice to see top'em Pierrepoint on the strings!!
Dessan01 9 months ago
He was so sweet
loveroftruth7 1 year ago
@loveroftruth7
I think professional is a better suited word. As a British sayings goes: When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite,
fitte6 1 year ago 9
@fitte6
As a human being (and I use the word ''human being'' very loosely in your case) you should be utterly ashamed by your comment to treat political murder so casually by trying to inject humour. SHAME ON YOU! :(
Zed1967 11 months ago
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@loveroftruth7 ''He was so sweet''
Would you say the same of people who carry out executions all over the world now?
An execution is state sponsored murder to satisfy the feeling of public revenge and the sadistic blood lust of a population. You should be ashamed of yourself. :(
Zed1967 11 months ago