For those complaining about getting Baldurs Gate etc running, go to GOG dot COM. You can buy them there real cheap, with no drm and will work on a modern OS just fine, no messin.
Ah my childhood ! Welcome back ! Nothing like listening to this and remembering those epic encounters where you walked into an house, found a mage, he casts Finger of Death on your main char, he fails to save, and dies ... good days ! They dont make games like this anymore !
Remake Baldurs Gate in Dragon Age engine? Wow.... eh, no.
Why? Why should be anyone interested in remake that will be obviously worse than original game? Do you think it is possible to create huge game with complete D&D rules on nearly hack&slash engine? Or do you think that 3D world will be as beautiful as 2D paintings?
I just got the symbol for the game (on the box) tattooed on my ankle. I've played it a million times and I still don't entirely know the significance of the symbol... anyone know?
@clovelywindheaven There is a mod on Dragon Age nexus that is recreating Baldur's gate 2 in the origins engine - still a work in progress but thought you might like to know about it :). Its called Baldur's Gate II Redux.
@clovelywindheaven Ain't that the truth a great example was EA's planned(but scrapped) re-make of Ultima 4 quest of the avatar,dear god I was happy to see EA scrap that since the leaked in development screen shots from it was horrible the game was going the Jrpg route/style and the Avatar looked like the main character from Prince of persia 2008 hell it wouldn't of surprised me that they planned on instead of going on quest of self enlightenment you instead are off to face some great evil.
Great theme. Loved it from the moment I first booted up BG2 which was funnily enough only a few days ago after I bought it from GoG. I had never played it before and from the first 30 minutes I was hooked. Great game, holds up well even today and is still highly enjoyable. With an awesome soundtrack to boot.
Don't you people know how to credit composers? This wonderful piece of music belongs to a man who contributed to the special magic of this game and his name is : Michael Hoenig.
seriously fuck you one person you watched this video to dislike it. i hate it when people call out those who dislike videos, BUT FUCKING COME ON!!!! you just had to be different, didn't you!
@Vend1cator91 neverwinter nights is absolute bullshit through and through in comparison to baldur's gate. believe me. I've never played drakensang or dragon age so I can't tell how good these two are. I've watche some gameplays of dragon age here in youtube though... so I can tell that it at least seems to be a nice game. but baldur's gate wasn't nice... it was frickin EPIC... and it still is. ;)
never played BG1 really but BG2 WAS my favorite game 12 years ago and Im still playing it today,about to launch the game right now and start Humar hills,hope Ican kill shadow drag or red drag today :P
@lucmharms i felt the same way about the first game. overall, i think that BG2 had better gameplay and more stuff to do, but the original had better graphics, music, sound effects and storyline. both are two of my top 5 favorite games
@xivlia really? BG1 was more realistic. the rain and thunder were simply amazing and the paper dolls in BG2 looked more cartoony. games in a series can regress in graphics when the designers try to do too much.
@AlexLoeher well BG1 uses a more improved version of the Infinity engine. so i assume its better and it looks better. in BG1 everything is aliased. but in BG2 its anti-aliased, there is even mods for BG1 to make its graphics like BG2 because alot of people dont like it :\.
@xivlia well i would attirbute that to most people getting BG2 first and then checking out the original. either way, its merely a preference. some people like Zelda: Wind Waker's graphics. i prefer other Zeldas but some really like the cel-shading
@TheMightybum I know man I just got done beating this like a few days ago, when I was younger I did once and I have pretty much gave up on todays game lol especially since Dragon age was supposed to be a successor to BG2 but alas it failed lol. SO going back really felt good. :)
THe Baldurs Gate Trilogie, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment cant be compared to any other game or genre since this day. Nothing like that, will ever see the surface of the World again.....thats for sure. And for that they are even more important to me. They are jewels!
@SaithMasu12 well, i wound give u hand up until i read to the point where you state that no game comparing to holy trinity will ever emerge, i really hope that after years of bias or bad retard/kid frendly games some company will emerge and will create game worthy of intelligent people. At least i want to.
i think baldur's gate had a good story/some of the best gameplay i've ever seen in a game. planescape's gameplay wasn't anywhere near bg2's, but it's story was probably the best ive ever seen in a game.
i never did get into icewind dale though. am i missing out? i might have to go dig that up
@TehPenar Hey,...Icewind Dale is a completly different game than BG2. The main focus here is the battle and a well told story. Music and the handpainted Maps are hillerious and gets u to another planet. I would recommend it, but its up to your expectations. There are no relationships in the vanilla game, but like BG2, there are Modifications from the community, that implants it. If you have any furter questions please conntact me on my account and can give u further information. Greez
@cafedunhill77 My apology for my stupid responses to your posts, which now I read them are obviously praising Baldur's Gate 2. It was an attack of paranoia I think. I agree with everything you say. Epic fail by me. Apologies :)
I couldn't even finish the game due to its legendary difficulty. (Wow, I remember how many spells took to kill a single bat in the first level). I did finish about half way, not knowing a single English. Even not finishing the game, I knew this was a masterpiece. Even I think back now, I still cannot understand how could they manage to come up with all these drawings, stories, characters. The hardest part is, putting them all together making it perfect
@roomwithacatinit It ought to install properly on any PC. I've got Vista and it works fine for me. I also had it installed on my old XP machine and it worked fine on that too. And from what I've heard it works perfectly well in Windows 7 too :)
I got this game when I was about 9 years old. That was when Starcraft was the game in the PC industry. I didn't know a single English back then. But the moment I put the CD in, and saw the install screen, I knew something was different. And I do Remember when I first heard this music. It gave me goosebumps and the feel of the whole fantasy world was just... truly touching on my skins.
I LOVE the creative imagination of all writers of things like this, and so I also include the writers of Bethesda (as a critical admirer of the ES games). I see CRPGs almost as a sneaky way of promoting by means of popular art the greatest things in life : philosophy and (genuine) religion. It's the best genre of games in my book, followed by strategy - and no disrespect meant to the best FPSs (e.g. Half-Life). The IE games had something about them which no other games have had since.
The argument will probably never be "won" but it's pretty obvious to me which series of games offered the deeper experience, that is to say the IE games and not anything made by Bethesda. "At the end of the day" how deep YOU are will decide what you prefer. Sadly, it seems to be an eternal rule that what is deepest will never be what is most popular. And it's incredible that the IE games, in their own way, teach this and yet so many people fail to recognise it, even after having played them.
In the ES games there's a non-D&D system in place - which doesn't work, either for character development or for combat. This ruins the game already for me. What makes the ES games so popular is first and foremost the 3D perspective and the amazing graphics and artwork, which you'd have to be churlish to find fault with. The writing is okay but certainly not up to the standard of the IE games. The combat is a chore and a bore : there's no skill involved ! Worthy RPGs but nothing great.
I played a lot of RPG games, and i don't think BG2 is above Oblivion or other Bethesda products. They're all fantastic games, each one with its strong and weak points.
I wish I had this game, one of my dads friends had it and while my dad shared an appartment with him my sis and I got to play this whenever we were there, I remember we started calling salt and vinegar chips Salty Valigars because of the character Valigar. (sorry if I misspelled the name its been way to long since I've gotten to play it.)
The REAL fans of the IE games, imo, are the ones who have at least an inkling of deeper meanings and subtler moods : not just the ones who can pick up a game and "beat" it easily (though the IE games are not easy to beat). The writers of both BGs and all the IE games managed to create a world which the most intelligent person could become absorbed in. Oblivion and Morrowind try to achieve the same goal but fail. I say this without meaning to seem conceited. The IE games are just deeper.
@simfamSP Totally agree about the word count ! Having owned Morrowind and Oblivion for quite a while and played them a lot, I'd say they deserve to be up there in the CRPG pantheon. But for metacritic to give Oblivion 94% and BG2 only 95% makes it look better than it really is imo. I blame this on gamers' tastes, which in turn I blame on a lack of depth in the modern world. I DO rate Oblivion, but it lacks something that the IE games possessed, which is itself hard to put into words.
@simfamSP I applaud Bethesda for what they've tried to do with the ES games and I'll admit that the BG team (and the P:T & IWD teams) had a head start, given that the Planescape and the Forgotten Realms worlds were already "in existence" before anyone tried to make CRPGs based on them. But in other respects (e.g. writing, atmosphere, music, plot + game rules) I think the IE games in general are superior. It's not Oblivion I object to, but the fact that it's rated on a par with BG by the industry
You know a game is epic when its MAIN MENU music is already this epic.
On the topic of the Elder Scrolls series, I actually quite like both Morrowind and Oblivion (because I really like games which have a high degree of character customisation), and customisation-wise, both ES games were better than BG2. But BG2 is still epic. : )
Baldur's Gate (Both the original/Tales of the Sword Coast, as well as Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal) is to RPGs as Starcraft is to RTS. They are the games that MADE the genres, and trying to make a game that compares in quality to their respective genres today (accounting for graphics/audio/physics advances) is going to be practically impossible, without a whole LOT of studying and keeping the people who don't know what they're doing out of the creation process.
when i finished baldur's gate 2 for the first time, i really did cry reading all the epilogues of my party members that fought with me against all sorts of enemies.
Then i finished it again with ascension, and i cried even harder.
Games have been being dumbed down for a long time now. Neverwintwer Nights was a dumbed-down version of the IE games. At least Bethesda stayed true to their traditions : their games had always been "dumb".
Bioshock became Bioshock 2.
Supreme Commander became Supreme Commander 2.
Both unquestionably dumbed-down versions of the originals. But even the originals were already dumbed down versions of System Shock 2 and Total Annihilation. Joe Average is THE genius, according to commercialism.
Anyone want to sign up for a petition to remake baldurs gate? or atleast continue the game like it was with a few better graphics, but all in all not changing the game relevantly !
After listening to this...I've decided to reinstall my BG2 + ToB expansion. Games these days just can't touch classics such as this...the music, the story, the game play and game play are just too good.
It's funny, really. I haven't thus far ever encountered a game that's pulled me in the way BG2 does, though the rest of the Infinity Engine games come in at a close, tied second place. Dragon Age was good. In fact, it was amaing, but when compared to BG2, it doesn't quite make the cut. At least not in my eyes. There's just something about the Infinity Engine. It's a kind of magic.
The only thing I disliked in BG games was that you never get foes never dropped anything if you destroyed them with ice. Concidering ice is my favourite element in any RPG game - I was a little saddened that I couldn't use it. Perhaps someone knows a mini-mod where this is fixed? I'd highly appriciate it!
Ah i think bg2 is your personal favourite^^ Its like an old love^^ You believe that nothing can match it^^ Be open for new Stuff^^ I played BG2 too and it was awesome but DA is serious awesome great stuff too^^ And its the only game i know that reach almost the quality of BG2...
Baulder's Gate is one of those games that has, and will always, stand the test of time. It has everything, everything that other games would do well to follow. BG might be old now compared to other games, but which game out now could you say would stand the test of time like BG has? By the way, the music on BG, is EPIC and Filmesque. Superb pieces of music.
I think the most veriest epicest theme of Baldurs Gate II is when you are fighting Bhaalspawn Yaga-Shura and Sendai.. that's the most veriest veriest epic.. ignore the superlative though.. hehehehe
Oblivion is pathetic compared with BG (1 or 2). To not appreciate this you must be pretty dense. Planescape : Torment and both Icewind Dales also both tower above anything Bethesda ever created. That anyone should think otherwise is truly depressing. Between BG2 and, e.g. Oblivion, there is an unbridgeable GULF in quality.
I have to agree. This is pretty much the best game ever made to date. The only other games that even come close were made by the same developers. A lot of pc rpg's are really great games, but they just don't approach the level of quality displayed in this and other bioware/black isle rpg's.
They're two completely different games... It's like comparing Super Mario Bros. and Final Fantasy or something. If you like BG or IWD more than Oblivion, that's fine, so do I... but don't claim superiority because you have a strong opinion.
I'm actually attempting (without great success) to mod up Oblivion at the moment. The work the modders have done is astonishing : better than Bethesda imo. The original game, though, was, AS A GAME, poor. Bethesda made another spectacular 3D world - mesmerizing in fact. But the gameplay mechanics underlying the ES games are illogical, unsatisfying, shoddy. And they (Bethesda) have got a cheek to leave it to modders to turn it into a classic. The IE games flowed from a more creative source (imo).
@zarakhast That's fair. I never got too far into Oblivion, but I did have a lot of fun with it for the couple of weeks I played it. It reminded me of the Parthenon in way... Huge, massive and beautiful, but hollow. It had a lot to offer on the outside looking it, but didn't contain the substance I needed to play through till the end. I got bored.
@Schragmeister Completely agreed. I don't know whether you've attempted to add mods to Oblivion. That's what I'm doing at the moment and I must admit that I'm deeply impressed, though none of the mods radically alters the broken gameplay. It's an amazing world to wander about in, certainly visually. But the IE games have much, much more substance imo. If you could fuse BG, P:T, IWD and the best of the ES games ..... it could be incredible.
@zarakhast Of course I modded it a bit; not too heavily... I never had a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater as a mount, but enough to get the feel and try out a few cool things.
I liked IWD 1+2 way more than BG... I liked to choose every aspect of my party. I beat IWD1 years ago, and a couple months ago I beat IWD2... I've yet to finish either Baldur's Gate. They're not bad, mind you, they just didn't tickle my... uh... yeah.
@Schragmeister If someone prefers the IWDs to the BGs (or P:T) that doesn't bother me because I could agree with you on certain days of the year. On the whole my favourites are the BGs, I think - if only because they come closest to my idea of a "Tolkienesque" world. I love ALL the IE games.
Oblivion and Morrowind are just great 3D worlds with not too much going on in them imo. Imagine actually living there - you'd want to escape as soon as possible. Why ? No soul !
@zarakhast PS (to self, but also to others) - How do you actually make a New Post in this new (I didn't need this hassle) YouTube format ? Where's the "New Post" button - or isn't there one ? Or do we just have to work out where it is even though we have a lot of other, more pressing things to do ? Perhaps it's laid out clearly before us in some set of instructions somewhere, which ought to be obvious to everyone but a total moron. I do sincerely hope I work this out soon.
@zarakhast what about Morrowind? I find BG2 and TES3 to be pretty close on the "awesomeness" scale, and they were created at about the same time, too. Morrowind came out a year later.
@Nebuchadnezzaurus I played Morrowind a few years ago, without completing it. I applaud Bethesda for their attempts to create a huge, original 3D world with its own races, gods, history etc. But both TES3 and TES4 (unmodded) suffer from the same problems imo, e.g. poor dialogue and voice acting, boring combat, unwieldy inventory systems. Visually both games are stunning ; Morrowind is perhaps artistically superior. Both games lack something in terms of atmosphere. Marks out of 100 ? 78 imo.
@Nebuchadnezzaurus To embellish that summary a little : I find with Oblivion that once Oblivion Gates start popping up everywhere I can hardly bear to carry on playing since they're ALL THE SAME ! My memory of Vivec in Morrowind is of a huge but mind-numbingly tedious city, full of characters who might as well all be the same person. And to call the inventory system in Morrowind "fiddly" would be a massive understatement. The TES games COULD have been masterpieces but they're just too flawed.
@rorydathomas452 I also enjoyed both Morrowind and Oblivion but I agree with the original PC Gamer magazine's (UK) review of Morrowind (though I wouldn't bother with any gaming mags any more because I think they're no longer honest and are probably taking bribes) : the reviewer (John Walker) gave the game a "mere" 82%. He said in so many words that it was spectacular but boring. I think he was right. It's a shame that he went on to rate NWN above Icewind Dale. He got that wrong !
@diablikmick Oblivion and Morrowind are decent games - at least if you like your combat simplistic. But to be worthy of a score of 90%+ they need to be more intelligent. The combat in the TES games is pretty puerile : no more complex than an old-fashioned beat-'em-up. And the NPCs are mass-produced and lack individuality and personality - and the locations are all pretty generic too. But never fear because airheads will always get their way as long as commercialism rules. So you win. Dipshit.
@zarakhast Yes! When I played Oblivion I was appalled by the lack of quality everywhere, this means : gameplay, artwork, dialogue, story and sound.
When it came out I read fantastic reviews and heard nothing but good things, and so I bought it about 2-3 weeks after it's release.
Game play is basically hack 'n slash. Atleast if you play a melee class like I did, no tactic for the most part, just click click click, graphics (good for the time) but lackluster artwork and horrible ambient sounds.
Try downloading "OOO" obscuros's oblivion overhaul, enemies are leveled, nd items do more different levels of damage. You can also fix the money system so that buying this is actually worth while, on pc at least...
Yeah I've got all of the games you mentioned. Oblivion was fun when I first got my Xbox 360 (just as mindless hack-and-slash time wasting) but it doesn't hold a candle to the magnificent BG series or even any other Infinity Engine games. Also, Oblivion has no story, period. The voice acting and dialogue is also all horrible.
Baldur's Gate series is a timeless classic and a favorite for me and one that I won't ever forget.
@zarakhast Oblivion is overrated....leveling is a bit strange...NPCs with no personality....mediocre story...the combat isn't that bright and uhh...thousands of polygons ?Is that it?...doesn't hold a candle against BG2
@Welther47 No, I stand by what I said. There is a huge gulf in quality between the IE games and the next best RPGs. I very much like the Elder Scrolls games and admire Bethesda for their good intentions (and decent games) but ultimately their games are not in the same class. In the IE games the plot is better, the dialogue is better, the mood is more profound, the combat is better, the "system" (D&D rules) is better. The people who wrote the IE games were just more talented people, end of.
@roomwithacatinit I completely agree with you. I'm a fan of the Elder Scrolls games, to an extent. In fact I keep coming back to Oblivion despite my scathing criticisms of it, and I couldn't drag myself away from Morrowind at the time either. The ES games are (pretty fundamentally) flawed masterpieces imo. But the IE games were the best, hands down : more accomplished in every respect.
@zarakhast Wonderfully said, The difference in quality between the BG series and any Bethesda game is insurmountable. Bethesda is nothing compared to what Black Isle/Bioware did with BG2.
Still, Bioware these days is a shadow of their former selves. Pity, really.
@EdwinOde Cheers. I think they are, though Narania (lower down the page) still likes them. I think that their stuff deteriorated after the last IE game. I still can hardly believe how disappointing NWN nights was. It was all the more disappointing since it took years to develop and was seriously hyped up. I reckon Bioware, having cut loose from Black Isle, sold their souls at around this time. To me their games since IWD2 have been formulaic and populistic.
Thats a obvious. but it doesn't mean you can't play both, I've wasted countless hours just losing my days playing morrowind, BG 1, 2 and oblivion, what you grow up with will always be better with what you meet with a sense of adult criticism.
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Honestly before you guys say Elders Scroll 4 Oblivion doesn't have shit on this game, your out your damn mind. Oblivion is 10x better, dont get me wrong I love Baldur's Gate, I love the story alot better then ES, but game mechanics wise, Oblivion kicks every rpg's ass, if only they made a mmo for it. I love oblivion cause you can do almost anything in the damn game. Can't wait for Elders scroll 5...Oh and if anyone says diablo 2 isnt a rpg needs to look up the definition again cause your a moron
It's better than that : it's EASILY (along with the other IE games) the BEST RPG ever created. The other "RPGs" you mentioned just don't come anywhere close ..... It's metacritic's No.6 game of all time, though in front of it they have The Orange Box (which is a compendium of games, and Half-Life 2 is already top), and a basketball game which is unknown in Europe. Really speaking it's the best game of all time. Certainly better than, e.g. Bioshock and GTA. And (imo) Half-Life 2.
I second that. The beauty of the game was in it's ability to make you care for the world and characters living in it. By the end of ToB the characters became like living persons, and the endings of each character just made it that much more powerful.
I wonder why there hasn't been another game like this - the same exactly as BG, only advanced graphics and a new story...
A good question, because the truth is that nothing since has been as good ...
The simple answer is (imo) : no-one has been able to match it. The quality of the imagination behind the writing in general is first-class. The people who made it were obviously very talented and really in form ...
The reason why nothing as good has appeared since is probably that :
a) gaming is a mass hobby now, which leads to dumbing down in general ; and
Your not giving modern games enough credit. BG may have been good, but there are more recent games that exceed it simply because of it's age. Saying the talent has vanished is so much BS. Most games are built for the masses, yes, but there are plenty of amazing games out there today, and your full of yourself if you thing BG is and always will be the best game ever. Also, 2nd edition was crap and 3.5 is better than it in almost every respect. (4th is like a different game entirely...)
All hail to the glorious Infinity Engine!
farinal 1 week ago
OMG i would so much love if someone creates an online version of BG..... omg i would spend 100€ for this <3 <3
thiscrapisholy 1 month ago
its fucking depressing how good this game is.
raketapjotr 2 months ago 2
Convince me Bioware today just isn't a front for Hamburger Helper to write her erotica into video games.
spicandspamful 2 months ago
For those complaining about getting Baldurs Gate etc running, go to GOG dot COM. You can buy them there real cheap, with no drm and will work on a modern OS just fine, no messin.
Cythrawl102 2 months ago
We Want Baldurs Gate III
in Baldurs gate original game style ;)
cafedunhill77 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos 7
Every time I start playing this game again, I always think to myself:
"Okay this time I'll play without Minsc"
Haven't worked once
Dennsithebest 3 months ago 16
@Dennsithebest Minsc will never get old :D
MegaPixarfan 1 month ago
easy to get these games working...
AngryJimmy 4 months ago
Ah my childhood ! Welcome back ! Nothing like listening to this and remembering those epic encounters where you walked into an house, found a mage, he casts Finger of Death on your main char, he fails to save, and dies ... good days ! They dont make games like this anymore !
Beowulf5566 5 months ago 3
epic theme this, wish they would make more rpgs like this.
karnaAbeje 5 months ago
Remake Baldurs Gate in Dragon Age engine? Wow.... eh, no.
Why? Why should be anyone interested in remake that will be obviously worse than original game? Do you think it is possible to create huge game with complete D&D rules on nearly hack&slash engine? Or do you think that 3D world will be as beautiful as 2D paintings?
AlieNczech 6 months ago in playlist Oblíbená videa uživatele AlieNczech
@AlieNczech
no, so that i could play on my pc and any other newer pc's and os that ill have...
its the only reason id like the remake, so that it could run perfectly.
that's why im disappointed, because my pc cant run any of those classics and i effin want em!!!
i cant play any of my favorite games. Gothic I and II, prince of qin, seal of evil, nwn, bg, iwd... none of em :[
and in now days, there are no games that are as good as these classics
mileninasakura 5 months ago
@mileninasakura Wierd, i had absolutely no problem with playing Baldurs Gate on my Windows 7 64bit
AlieNczech 5 months ago
@mileninasakura Weird I can play both gothics, Iwd and bg on my w7 64 bit o.o... You just need to turn off hardware acceleration in some cases lol.
polanddemon 4 months ago
@polanddemon :/ lucker! not every pc is that lucky as yours... anyhow, few my friends cant play any of the classics, because the pc or OS is too new
mileninasakura 4 months ago
Best part starts at 0:57
It's a shame that there aren't more rpgs like this anymore.
slade299 6 months ago 4
I just got the symbol for the game (on the box) tattooed on my ankle. I've played it a million times and I still don't entirely know the significance of the symbol... anyone know?
gidkid7 7 months ago
@gidkid7 I've always interpreted as a sort of ying/yang or good/evil symbol. You know, to represent the choices you can make during the game
Shenordak 7 months ago
I would LOVE to see Bioware remake this. I'd be the first in line to get it!
hkb692 8 months ago 4
@hkb692 let me guess u want star wars to be remade as well
SebWoodhead 8 months ago
@SebWoodhead haha I like your thinking. Remakes suck, let the classics stay classic.
Deere55 6 months ago
@hkb692 if they re made baldurs gate series in the DA:O engine (exact copy) ..would be incredible to play...
but...it wouldn't be marketable or profitable...since most gamers today are retards... :(....CODDDDDD
clovelywindheaven 7 months ago 24
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Fattness124 7 months ago
@clovelywindheaven There is a mod on Dragon Age nexus that is recreating Baldur's gate 2 in the origins engine - still a work in progress but thought you might like to know about it :). Its called Baldur's Gate II Redux.
Fattness124 7 months ago
@Fattness124 really...??? wow...well im actually playing BG2 atm nearly completed it......thanks for telling me this...defo chk it out!
hope they make a NWN remake too
clovelywindheaven 7 months ago
@clovelywindheaven Agreed
MegaPixarfan 1 month ago
@clovelywindheaven Ain't that the truth a great example was EA's planned(but scrapped) re-make of Ultima 4 quest of the avatar,dear god I was happy to see EA scrap that since the leaked in development screen shots from it was horrible the game was going the Jrpg route/style and the Avatar looked like the main character from Prince of persia 2008 hell it wouldn't of surprised me that they planned on instead of going on quest of self enlightenment you instead are off to face some great evil.
Evilmonkey66699 3 weeks ago
This song mostly reminds me of trying to get the most number of stat points in the "reroll".
eedobee 8 months ago 3
Great theme. Loved it from the moment I first booted up BG2 which was funnily enough only a few days ago after I bought it from GoG. I had never played it before and from the first 30 minutes I was hooked. Great game, holds up well even today and is still highly enjoyable. With an awesome soundtrack to boot.
LordTharapita 8 months ago
Remember when video games weren't about graphics but about enjoying an epic story? I do.
Kryczek 9 months ago 4
LEGENDARY. That is all.
xkaliberx 9 months ago 2
Don't you people know how to credit composers? This wonderful piece of music belongs to a man who contributed to the special magic of this game and his name is : Michael Hoenig.
VacnaPaul 10 months ago
seriously fuck you one person you watched this video to dislike it. i hate it when people call out those who dislike videos, BUT FUCKING COME ON!!!! you just had to be different, didn't you!
Dwaldron89 10 months ago
Lol, I played this at 11 years old. This game helped my vocabulary in the years to come. <3
UnbridledAtNightfall 11 months ago 3
I'm a fan of rpg party like drakensang,neverwinter nights , dragon age it would be more hard than this game?? cuz i want play it !
Vend1cator91 11 months ago
@Vend1cator91 neverwinter nights is absolute bullshit through and through in comparison to baldur's gate. believe me. I've never played drakensang or dragon age so I can't tell how good these two are. I've watche some gameplays of dragon age here in youtube though... so I can tell that it at least seems to be a nice game. but baldur's gate wasn't nice... it was frickin EPIC... and it still is. ;)
lollekompolle 10 months ago 5
never played BG1 really but BG2 WAS my favorite game 12 years ago and Im still playing it today,about to launch the game right now and start Humar hills,hope Ican kill shadow drag or red drag today :P
outlawzqc 11 months ago
I love this song.. I never played the game thaaat much... but it might be because I was stuck in the menu.
I didn't want the song to end :'(
Walcor87 1 year ago 4
@Walcor87 you are so right, i did that too
flipsy87 11 months ago
Go for the eyes, Boo!
elgambito2003 1 year ago 2
i used to run baldurs gate 2 and leave it on the main menu, just to hear this music repeated over and over and over again
lucmharms 1 year ago
@lucmharms i felt the same way about the first game. overall, i think that BG2 had better gameplay and more stuff to do, but the original had better graphics, music, sound effects and storyline. both are two of my top 5 favorite games
AlexLoeher 1 year ago
@AlexLoeher wati...u did NOT just say that BG1 had better graphics than BG2 lOL!!!!
xivlia 1 year ago
@xivlia really? BG1 was more realistic. the rain and thunder were simply amazing and the paper dolls in BG2 looked more cartoony. games in a series can regress in graphics when the designers try to do too much.
AlexLoeher 1 year ago
@AlexLoeher well BG1 uses a more improved version of the Infinity engine. so i assume its better and it looks better. in BG1 everything is aliased. but in BG2 its anti-aliased, there is even mods for BG1 to make its graphics like BG2 because alot of people dont like it :\.
xivlia 1 year ago
@xivlia well i would attirbute that to most people getting BG2 first and then checking out the original. either way, its merely a preference. some people like Zelda: Wind Waker's graphics. i prefer other Zeldas but some really like the cel-shading
AlexLoeher 1 year ago
bg1&bg2 best games ever
ArkaKressel 1 year ago
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Rhaeide 1 year ago
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I finally made this theme on piano, check out on my channel!
Rhaeide 1 year ago
OMG! This music reminds me of the good old days. Definitely better than any RPG released in recent years.
TheMightybum 1 year ago
@TheMightybum I know man I just got done beating this like a few days ago, when I was younger I did once and I have pretty much gave up on todays game lol especially since Dragon age was supposed to be a successor to BG2 but alas it failed lol. SO going back really felt good. :)
Diolord89 1 year ago
Dragon age 2 better have Minsc...and boo of course =D
bewts420 1 year ago 2
This music is making me cry , I was 17 then, time flies... sob sob
leakingpointer 1 year ago
I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVE this tune it brings back so much memories
batboyjhg 1 year ago
no...must resist urge to play BG...
killawind1287 1 year ago 2
@killawind1287 resistance is futile!
*runs BG2 again*
PoziracDeti 1 year ago
THe Baldurs Gate Trilogie, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment cant be compared to any other game or genre since this day. Nothing like that, will ever see the surface of the World again.....thats for sure. And for that they are even more important to me. They are jewels!
SaithMasu12 1 year ago 81
@SaithMasu12 Icewind was mediocre, more like turn based hack'n'slash than RPG.
acetylen42 8 months ago
@SaithMasu12
Agreed mate, best RPG-s ever!
Thunderer7 4 months ago
@SaithMasu12 well, i wound give u hand up until i read to the point where you state that no game comparing to holy trinity will ever emerge, i really hope that after years of bias or bad retard/kid frendly games some company will emerge and will create game worthy of intelligent people. At least i want to.
plplplplomg 1 month ago
@SaithMasu12
i think baldur's gate had a good story/some of the best gameplay i've ever seen in a game. planescape's gameplay wasn't anywhere near bg2's, but it's story was probably the best ive ever seen in a game.
i never did get into icewind dale though. am i missing out? i might have to go dig that up
TehPenar 3 weeks ago
@TehPenar Hey,...Icewind Dale is a completly different game than BG2. The main focus here is the battle and a well told story. Music and the handpainted Maps are hillerious and gets u to another planet. I would recommend it, but its up to your expectations. There are no relationships in the vanilla game, but like BG2, there are Modifications from the community, that implants it. If you have any furter questions please conntact me on my account and can give u further information. Greez
SaithMasu12 3 weeks ago
0:51
music gives me chills man
rednekoboy 1 year ago
THIS IS UNDISPUTABLE what u call a LEGEND. If you don't think so, I'm sorry but I guess you don't have a soul :)
cafedunhill77 1 year ago
@cafedunhill77 Do you work for Bioware ? If so your games since IWD2 have been shit.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@cafedunhill77 My apology for my stupid responses to your posts, which now I read them are obviously praising Baldur's Gate 2. It was an attack of paranoia I think. I agree with everything you say. Epic fail by me. Apologies :)
zarakhast 1 year ago
I couldn't even finish the game due to its legendary difficulty. (Wow, I remember how many spells took to kill a single bat in the first level). I did finish about half way, not knowing a single English. Even not finishing the game, I knew this was a masterpiece. Even I think back now, I still cannot understand how could they manage to come up with all these drawings, stories, characters. The hardest part is, putting them all together making it perfect
cafedunhill77 1 year ago
@cafedunhill77 There aren't any bats in Baldur's Gate (1 or 2).
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast I think he may mean the imps.
(But they may be called something else, I don't remember, I haven't played in years, since the game won't properly install on my PC.)
roomwithacatinit 1 year ago
@roomwithacatinit It ought to install properly on any PC. I've got Vista and it works fine for me. I also had it installed on my old XP machine and it worked fine on that too. And from what I've heard it works perfectly well in Windows 7 too :)
zarakhast 1 year ago
I got this game when I was about 9 years old. That was when Starcraft was the game in the PC industry. I didn't know a single English back then. But the moment I put the CD in, and saw the install screen, I knew something was different. And I do Remember when I first heard this music. It gave me goosebumps and the feel of the whole fantasy world was just... truly touching on my skins.
cafedunhill77 1 year ago
I LOVE the creative imagination of all writers of things like this, and so I also include the writers of Bethesda (as a critical admirer of the ES games). I see CRPGs almost as a sneaky way of promoting by means of popular art the greatest things in life : philosophy and (genuine) religion. It's the best genre of games in my book, followed by strategy - and no disrespect meant to the best FPSs (e.g. Half-Life). The IE games had something about them which no other games have had since.
zarakhast 1 year ago
The argument will probably never be "won" but it's pretty obvious to me which series of games offered the deeper experience, that is to say the IE games and not anything made by Bethesda. "At the end of the day" how deep YOU are will decide what you prefer. Sadly, it seems to be an eternal rule that what is deepest will never be what is most popular. And it's incredible that the IE games, in their own way, teach this and yet so many people fail to recognise it, even after having played them.
zarakhast 1 year ago
In the ES games there's a non-D&D system in place - which doesn't work, either for character development or for combat. This ruins the game already for me. What makes the ES games so popular is first and foremost the 3D perspective and the amazing graphics and artwork, which you'd have to be churlish to find fault with. The writing is okay but certainly not up to the standard of the IE games. The combat is a chore and a bore : there's no skill involved ! Worthy RPGs but nothing great.
zarakhast 1 year ago
I played a lot of RPG games, and i don't think BG2 is above Oblivion or other Bethesda products. They're all fantastic games, each one with its strong and weak points.
Kogoruhn 1 year ago
I wish I had this game, one of my dads friends had it and while my dad shared an appartment with him my sis and I got to play this whenever we were there, I remember we started calling salt and vinegar chips Salty Valigars because of the character Valigar. (sorry if I misspelled the name its been way to long since I've gotten to play it.)
MetaKnight640000 1 year ago
BLACK ISLE COME BACK!!!!!!
smokeyvv 1 year ago 2
The REAL fans of the IE games, imo, are the ones who have at least an inkling of deeper meanings and subtler moods : not just the ones who can pick up a game and "beat" it easily (though the IE games are not easy to beat). The writers of both BGs and all the IE games managed to create a world which the most intelligent person could become absorbed in. Oblivion and Morrowind try to achieve the same goal but fail. I say this without meaning to seem conceited. The IE games are just deeper.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@simfamSP Totally agree about the word count ! Having owned Morrowind and Oblivion for quite a while and played them a lot, I'd say they deserve to be up there in the CRPG pantheon. But for metacritic to give Oblivion 94% and BG2 only 95% makes it look better than it really is imo. I blame this on gamers' tastes, which in turn I blame on a lack of depth in the modern world. I DO rate Oblivion, but it lacks something that the IE games possessed, which is itself hard to put into words.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@simfamSP I applaud Bethesda for what they've tried to do with the ES games and I'll admit that the BG team (and the P:T & IWD teams) had a head start, given that the Planescape and the Forgotten Realms worlds were already "in existence" before anyone tried to make CRPGs based on them. But in other respects (e.g. writing, atmosphere, music, plot + game rules) I think the IE games in general are superior. It's not Oblivion I object to, but the fact that it's rated on a par with BG by the industry
zarakhast 1 year ago
from 0:23 mmmmmm : ]
Tilodeus 1 year ago
You know a game is epic when its MAIN MENU music is already this epic.
On the topic of the Elder Scrolls series, I actually quite like both Morrowind and Oblivion (because I really like games which have a high degree of character customisation), and customisation-wise, both ES games were better than BG2. But BG2 is still epic. : )
GunSaint 1 year ago 2
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Razokk 1 year ago
This is really the best game for me, no complaints, I'm impressed. Never said that for any other game.
Gumicazakosu 1 year ago
Boo liiikes de forest.
AnotherSchmoe 1 year ago
"Every hamster...has his day"
teshanovic1 1 year ago
Baldur's Gate (Both the original/Tales of the Sword Coast, as well as Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal) is to RPGs as Starcraft is to RTS. They are the games that MADE the genres, and trying to make a game that compares in quality to their respective genres today (accounting for graphics/audio/physics advances) is going to be practically impossible, without a whole LOT of studying and keeping the people who don't know what they're doing out of the creation process.
XPhaerothX 1 year ago
when i finished baldur's gate 2 for the first time, i really did cry reading all the epilogues of my party members that fought with me against all sorts of enemies.
Then i finished it again with ascension, and i cried even harder.
ssdiothor 1 year ago
Wow... Just wow...
LichKingSkullWart 1 year ago
Games have been being dumbed down for a long time now. Neverwintwer Nights was a dumbed-down version of the IE games. At least Bethesda stayed true to their traditions : their games had always been "dumb".
Bioshock became Bioshock 2.
Supreme Commander became Supreme Commander 2.
Both unquestionably dumbed-down versions of the originals. But even the originals were already dumbed down versions of System Shock 2 and Total Annihilation. Joe Average is THE genius, according to commercialism.
zarakhast 1 year ago
To this day, Baldur's Gate has remained my favorite western game, nothing recently released can be compared to this masterpiece.
Scorpiontr90 1 year ago
yoshimo is willing...to BETRAY!!!! FUCKING TRAITOR
blade853 1 year ago
Anyone want to sign up for a petition to remake baldurs gate? or atleast continue the game like it was with a few better graphics, but all in all not changing the game relevantly !
soppapoika 1 year ago
After listening to this...I've decided to reinstall my BG2 + ToB expansion. Games these days just can't touch classics such as this...the music, the story, the game play and game play are just too good.
quick41 1 year ago 30
@quick41 Isometric game's don't jitter like a motherfucker when you turn a corner either.
eedobee 8 months ago
Ah, there it is. Thanks for making it so clear. Baldur's Gate forever.
zarakhast 1 year ago
I've finished BG1 + expansion and BG2 on one character (still yet to finish ToB) and I've played many RPG's since then (Including all Bioware games).
No RPG since the BG series has come close in the terms of story or playability, the series just has this magic that never wanes.
Dragon Age was good, but the major flaw in it's story was that, after the Origin part, you knew what you had to do there's no real climax.
I also didn't like the use of MMO-like action bars.
Nollis 2 years ago 3
It's funny, really. I haven't thus far ever encountered a game that's pulled me in the way BG2 does, though the rest of the Infinity Engine games come in at a close, tied second place. Dragon Age was good. In fact, it was amaing, but when compared to BG2, it doesn't quite make the cut. At least not in my eyes. There's just something about the Infinity Engine. It's a kind of magic.
friedlish 2 years ago 2
The only thing I disliked in BG games was that you never get foes never dropped anything if you destroyed them with ice. Concidering ice is my favourite element in any RPG game - I was a little saddened that I couldn't use it. Perhaps someone knows a mini-mod where this is fixed? I'd highly appriciate it!
PsychoticLuke 2 years ago
@PsychoticLuke I actually agree with that. Made using ice-based spells / weapons less appealing. I want my treasure !
zarakhast 1 year ago
Brings back memories.
shadowC10ne 2 years ago 3
BEST
GAME
EVERRRRR
IsilionNELE 2 years ago 4
reminds me of the old days when me and my older brother used to play black isle games
good times
binshuy 2 years ago
If you like BG2 you should try Dragonage now^^ Its pretty cool and its much like BG2^^
tubewatchingfreak 2 years ago 2
DA kinda sucks imo... The story is lame, the combat is kinda dull, and character progression/customization is very limited.
BG II was epic.
Heretic9000 2 years ago
BG 2 is sh1t compare to BG1
ImRealAmerican 2 years ago
Ah i think bg2 is your personal favourite^^ Its like an old love^^ You believe that nothing can match it^^ Be open for new Stuff^^ I played BG2 too and it was awesome but DA is serious awesome great stuff too^^ And its the only game i know that reach almost the quality of BG2...
tubewatchingfreak 2 years ago
Spine-shiveringly, jaw droppingly, uber-epically, AMAZING.
/me bows to the masterpiece that was Baldur's Gate II.
/me bows to the masterpiece that was KotOR.
/me sheds a tear for the dross we are served in the present day.
Heretic9000 2 years ago 15
Baulder's Gate is one of those games that has, and will always, stand the test of time. It has everything, everything that other games would do well to follow. BG might be old now compared to other games, but which game out now could you say would stand the test of time like BG has? By the way, the music on BG, is EPIC and Filmesque. Superb pieces of music.
wayneleon100 2 years ago 2
still gives me goosebumps...:)
AngelosL 2 years ago 4
@AngelosL Same.......same
jwunschie14 2 years ago
This song have special place in my brain :D 50/5
wojakov 2 years ago 16
:DDDDD i know exactly what you mean, I used to force myself to listen to it and watch every intro, just to get in mood
vrode 2 years ago
Awesome, Very Epic!
xxAtlantianKnightxx 2 years ago
I think the most veriest epicest theme of Baldurs Gate II is when you are fighting Bhaalspawn Yaga-Shura and Sendai.. that's the most veriest veriest epic.. ignore the superlative though.. hehehehe
detheroc98 2 years ago
there aint coming bg 3
Ozogu 2 years ago
Oblivion is pathetic compared with BG (1 or 2). To not appreciate this you must be pretty dense. Planescape : Torment and both Icewind Dales also both tower above anything Bethesda ever created. That anyone should think otherwise is truly depressing. Between BG2 and, e.g. Oblivion, there is an unbridgeable GULF in quality.
zarakhast 2 years ago 63
I have to agree. This is pretty much the best game ever made to date. The only other games that even come close were made by the same developers. A lot of pc rpg's are really great games, but they just don't approach the level of quality displayed in this and other bioware/black isle rpg's.
Zeuts85 2 years ago 8
They're two completely different games... It's like comparing Super Mario Bros. and Final Fantasy or something. If you like BG or IWD more than Oblivion, that's fine, so do I... but don't claim superiority because you have a strong opinion.
Schragmeister 1 year ago
I'm actually attempting (without great success) to mod up Oblivion at the moment. The work the modders have done is astonishing : better than Bethesda imo. The original game, though, was, AS A GAME, poor. Bethesda made another spectacular 3D world - mesmerizing in fact. But the gameplay mechanics underlying the ES games are illogical, unsatisfying, shoddy. And they (Bethesda) have got a cheek to leave it to modders to turn it into a classic. The IE games flowed from a more creative source (imo).
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast That's fair. I never got too far into Oblivion, but I did have a lot of fun with it for the couple of weeks I played it. It reminded me of the Parthenon in way... Huge, massive and beautiful, but hollow. It had a lot to offer on the outside looking it, but didn't contain the substance I needed to play through till the end. I got bored.
Schragmeister 1 year ago
@Schragmeister Completely agreed. I don't know whether you've attempted to add mods to Oblivion. That's what I'm doing at the moment and I must admit that I'm deeply impressed, though none of the mods radically alters the broken gameplay. It's an amazing world to wander about in, certainly visually. But the IE games have much, much more substance imo. If you could fuse BG, P:T, IWD and the best of the ES games ..... it could be incredible.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast Of course I modded it a bit; not too heavily... I never had a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater as a mount, but enough to get the feel and try out a few cool things.
I liked IWD 1+2 way more than BG... I liked to choose every aspect of my party. I beat IWD1 years ago, and a couple months ago I beat IWD2... I've yet to finish either Baldur's Gate. They're not bad, mind you, they just didn't tickle my... uh... yeah.
Schragmeister 1 year ago
@Schragmeister If someone prefers the IWDs to the BGs (or P:T) that doesn't bother me because I could agree with you on certain days of the year. On the whole my favourites are the BGs, I think - if only because they come closest to my idea of a "Tolkienesque" world. I love ALL the IE games.
Oblivion and Morrowind are just great 3D worlds with not too much going on in them imo. Imagine actually living there - you'd want to escape as soon as possible. Why ? No soul !
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast PS (to self, but also to others) - How do you actually make a New Post in this new (I didn't need this hassle) YouTube format ? Where's the "New Post" button - or isn't there one ? Or do we just have to work out where it is even though we have a lot of other, more pressing things to do ? Perhaps it's laid out clearly before us in some set of instructions somewhere, which ought to be obvious to everyone but a total moron. I do sincerely hope I work this out soon.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast what about Morrowind? I find BG2 and TES3 to be pretty close on the "awesomeness" scale, and they were created at about the same time, too. Morrowind came out a year later.
Nebuchadnezzaurus 1 year ago
@Nebuchadnezzaurus I played Morrowind a few years ago, without completing it. I applaud Bethesda for their attempts to create a huge, original 3D world with its own races, gods, history etc. But both TES3 and TES4 (unmodded) suffer from the same problems imo, e.g. poor dialogue and voice acting, boring combat, unwieldy inventory systems. Visually both games are stunning ; Morrowind is perhaps artistically superior. Both games lack something in terms of atmosphere. Marks out of 100 ? 78 imo.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@Nebuchadnezzaurus To embellish that summary a little : I find with Oblivion that once Oblivion Gates start popping up everywhere I can hardly bear to carry on playing since they're ALL THE SAME ! My memory of Vivec in Morrowind is of a huge but mind-numbingly tedious city, full of characters who might as well all be the same person. And to call the inventory system in Morrowind "fiddly" would be a massive understatement. The TES games COULD have been masterpieces but they're just too flawed.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast as much as i loved morrowind, yes, yes,yes i couldnt agree more. BG2 goes down as easily one of the greatest RPGs of all time in my mind
rorydathomas452 1 year ago
@rorydathomas452 I also enjoyed both Morrowind and Oblivion but I agree with the original PC Gamer magazine's (UK) review of Morrowind (though I wouldn't bother with any gaming mags any more because I think they're no longer honest and are probably taking bribes) : the reviewer (John Walker) gave the game a "mere" 82%. He said in so many words that it was spectacular but boring. I think he was right. It's a shame that he went on to rate NWN above Icewind Dale. He got that wrong !
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast thats your opinion dipshit
diablikmick 1 year ago
@diablikmick Oblivion and Morrowind are decent games - at least if you like your combat simplistic. But to be worthy of a score of 90%+ they need to be more intelligent. The combat in the TES games is pretty puerile : no more complex than an old-fashioned beat-'em-up. And the NPCs are mass-produced and lack individuality and personality - and the locations are all pretty generic too. But never fear because airheads will always get their way as long as commercialism rules. So you win. Dipshit.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast Yes! When I played Oblivion I was appalled by the lack of quality everywhere, this means : gameplay, artwork, dialogue, story and sound.
When it came out I read fantastic reviews and heard nothing but good things, and so I bought it about 2-3 weeks after it's release.
Game play is basically hack 'n slash. Atleast if you play a melee class like I did, no tactic for the most part, just click click click, graphics (good for the time) but lackluster artwork and horrible ambient sounds.
UberDuplo 1 year ago 2
Try downloading "OOO" obscuros's oblivion overhaul, enemies are leveled, nd items do more different levels of damage. You can also fix the money system so that buying this is actually worth while, on pc at least...
LichKingSkullWart 1 year ago
@zarakhast
Yeah I've got all of the games you mentioned. Oblivion was fun when I first got my Xbox 360 (just as mindless hack-and-slash time wasting) but it doesn't hold a candle to the magnificent BG series or even any other Infinity Engine games. Also, Oblivion has no story, period. The voice acting and dialogue is also all horrible.
Baldur's Gate series is a timeless classic and a favorite for me and one that I won't ever forget.
AnotherSchmoe 1 year ago
@zarakhast Oblivion is overrated....leveling is a bit strange...NPCs with no personality....mediocre story...the combat isn't that bright and uhh...thousands of polygons ?Is that it?...doesn't hold a candle against BG2
StevieGG08 1 year ago
@zarakhast Arhh come on. I think you're being a little harsh on Oblivion. I love BG2, Torment and ID2. But also the Elder Scrolls 4.
Welther47 1 year ago
@Welther47 No, I stand by what I said. There is a huge gulf in quality between the IE games and the next best RPGs. I very much like the Elder Scrolls games and admire Bethesda for their good intentions (and decent games) but ultimately their games are not in the same class. In the IE games the plot is better, the dialogue is better, the mood is more profound, the combat is better, the "system" (D&D rules) is better. The people who wrote the IE games were just more talented people, end of.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast Hey, You may be right, but Oblivion, to some extemt, is enjoyable too.
roomwithacatinit 1 year ago
@roomwithacatinit I completely agree with you. I'm a fan of the Elder Scrolls games, to an extent. In fact I keep coming back to Oblivion despite my scathing criticisms of it, and I couldn't drag myself away from Morrowind at the time either. The ES games are (pretty fundamentally) flawed masterpieces imo. But the IE games were the best, hands down : more accomplished in every respect.
zarakhast 1 year ago
@zarakhast Wonderfully said, The difference in quality between the BG series and any Bethesda game is insurmountable. Bethesda is nothing compared to what Black Isle/Bioware did with BG2.
Still, Bioware these days is a shadow of their former selves. Pity, really.
EdwinOde 1 year ago
@EdwinOde Cheers. I think they are, though Narania (lower down the page) still likes them. I think that their stuff deteriorated after the last IE game. I still can hardly believe how disappointing NWN nights was. It was all the more disappointing since it took years to develop and was seriously hyped up. I reckon Bioware, having cut loose from Black Isle, sold their souls at around this time. To me their games since IWD2 have been formulaic and populistic.
zarakhast 1 year ago
Thats a obvious. but it doesn't mean you can't play both, I've wasted countless hours just losing my days playing morrowind, BG 1, 2 and oblivion, what you grow up with will always be better with what you meet with a sense of adult criticism.
LichKingSkullWart 1 year ago
My favorite part is 0:58+
Cruelhazard 2 years ago 2
Fucking classic
PersianPaladin 2 years ago 3
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion:
- find Martin Septim
- serve Martin Septim
- defend Martin Septim
Diablo:
- left click
- right click
cetaepsilon 2 years ago 51
yes..but in defense of Oblivion, its really:
-find Sean Bean
-serve Sean Bean
and -defend Sean Bean
Which is all that made it playable to me lol.. Morrowind was better than oblivion, but doesn't stand the test at all to the might of the BG series
booie666 2 years ago 3
@cetaepsilon
More like...
"Oblivion: Ignore Septim Completely"
I spent over sixty hours playing Oblivion without bothering to touch the main questline at all. Kind of annoying, actually.
SolarisParadox 1 year ago
@cetaepsilon Hahaha exactly
Fwedeuwick 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Honestly before you guys say Elders Scroll 4 Oblivion doesn't have shit on this game, your out your damn mind. Oblivion is 10x better, dont get me wrong I love Baldur's Gate, I love the story alot better then ES, but game mechanics wise, Oblivion kicks every rpg's ass, if only they made a mmo for it. I love oblivion cause you can do almost anything in the damn game. Can't wait for Elders scroll 5...Oh and if anyone says diablo 2 isnt a rpg needs to look up the definition again cause your a moron
TrueUSMarine 2 years ago
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TrueUSMarine 2 years ago
Agree PcK!
Paskovitchz 2 years ago
It's official: Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn is in the top 5 for the best RPGs ever released.
It's up there with Oblivion, Diablo 2, etc
PcKSnipE 3 years ago
as if diablo 2 is rpg
Nidarteh1337 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure it is
PcKSnipE 3 years ago
hack and slash
Nidarteh1337 3 years ago
it blows Oblivion out of the fucking water.
enshk79 3 years ago 7
my favourite rpg of all time as well, oblivion, wow, diablo etc all have shit on bg2
PcKSnipE 3 years ago 4
I love this game! lol I can't wait for Baldur's Gate 3
TrueUSMarine 3 years ago
lol same here, but it will never be released/made
PcKSnipE 3 years ago
yeah, now we have Neverwinter Nights. Not exactly the same game but it still has that old D&D feeling
Meldanen14 2 years ago
It's better than that : it's EASILY (along with the other IE games) the BEST RPG ever created. The other "RPGs" you mentioned just don't come anywhere close ..... It's metacritic's No.6 game of all time, though in front of it they have The Orange Box (which is a compendium of games, and Half-Life 2 is already top), and a basketball game which is unknown in Europe. Really speaking it's the best game of all time. Certainly better than, e.g. Bioshock and GTA. And (imo) Half-Life 2.
zarakhast 2 years ago
I second that. The beauty of the game was in it's ability to make you care for the world and characters living in it. By the end of ToB the characters became like living persons, and the endings of each character just made it that much more powerful.
I wonder why there hasn't been another game like this - the same exactly as BG, only advanced graphics and a new story...
FeynmanIsTheMan 2 years ago 2
A good question, because the truth is that nothing since has been as good ...
The simple answer is (imo) : no-one has been able to match it. The quality of the imagination behind the writing in general is first-class. The people who made it were obviously very talented and really in form ...
The reason why nothing as good has appeared since is probably that :
a) gaming is a mass hobby now, which leads to dumbing down in general ; and
b) the talent has (consequently) vanished.
zarakhast 2 years ago 3
Your not giving modern games enough credit. BG may have been good, but there are more recent games that exceed it simply because of it's age. Saying the talent has vanished is so much BS. Most games are built for the masses, yes, but there are plenty of amazing games out there today, and your full of yourself if you thing BG is and always will be the best game ever. Also, 2nd edition was crap and 3.5 is better than it in almost every respect. (4th is like a different game entirely...)
SoManySkinks 2 years ago