This film was brilliant, the acting was great and some things were really shocking. I saw it because of 2 reasons - it was based on true events and I adore 3 actors here - Michael Madsen, Clare Carey and Mario Van Peebles. Thanks God, all good guys/girls survived. Real miracle
@nathanbecker408 armour peircing has nothing to do with the cartridge. Its the bullet that is armour peircing. 308 = commercial variant of the 7.2x51. They are interchangeable. The only thing that is different is when you are reloading the 7.62 you have to be aware that the brass is a bit thicker so you will have higher pressures with the same amount of powder.
Nope, I dont. The other fella however claimed to do just that. I however own a G3 and in doing so I know what type of round it uses.
Cant say a lot about the 416 since Ive never used it. However, Ive run in to it in Norway a cuple of times and the only thing ive noticed is that i freezes quite easily in arctic conditions, like other AR15 derivates. Nice gun otherwise though it would seem, but I see it more fit as a police weapon rather than a military rifle.
Actually he did kill himself.. The plan for a bank robbery as extreme as that.... The plan is simple.. If you fail..... You shoot yourself.. He was shot in his hand and he picked up his pistol and put it at his chin.. Both of them stated you'll never take us alive.
OMG.. this movie coulda been soo much better!! They barely showed Larry and Emil before the heist and when they did it was b/s. They showed them talking about cars on the way to the robbery..such b/s. And I think Emil is legally retarted in the movie. Sombody needs to make a movie and tell the whole story. From when they got arrested to the banks they robbed to N. Hollywood. That would be worth watching!!
So, there was one romanian guy, who wanted to go, in the car. The other guy didn't want to go. For us, romanians, it's a shame that one of ours did that. Few years later a drunk american marines runned a red light and smashed a car. One very well known romanian singer was killed. We blamed him and the american court who applied very few sanctions to him.But we didn't blame a nation for what one individual did.
You people are pretty fucked up, but no matter how much you recommend and know about this stuff you probably wouldn't stand a chance against those police either.
I dont care about anyone elses opinions but, the AK47 should be THE weapon of choice for any criminal group. Also they used steel-plated 7.62 which made them even more hard-hitting, and 100-round drums. GO #1 ASSAULT RIFLE IN THE WORLD!!!
Actually the ammo was chinese steel core ammo has not been imported since Febuary 2, 1994. It was still copper jacketed but instead of lead the internal of the bullet was steel.
Yeah, and when Larry pulled the G3 from his trunk that pretty much owns both the AK and M16 rounds. With a 51mm cartridge you get more velocity then the M16 round and since it fires the same 7.62mm bullet as the AK you get similar ballistics when compared to the AK as well. However, when coupled with the 51mm case instead of the short and stubby 39mm case everything is enhanced: stopping power, penetration, and range.
It was a modified HK91 as far as I know, modified to be fully automatic, firing .308 rounds. Even more deadly then the AK. That was the point I was trying to make.
@ParamoreWorshipper There never was any Romy AiMS rifles, its a misconception that came about because of the foregrip on Phillips rifle, someone mistook it for the one on a AiMS PMD 65 rifle and the Wikipedia entry was altered, the rifles were without a shadow of a doubt Chinese Norinco Type 56's.
All you need to know about the AK vs. M16 is that one is like a machine gun and the other like a rifle! If it's urban take the K, if it take some aim go for the M16.
i jjst wanted to say why the L85a2? why not the L1A1? its a much better rifle firing the 7.62x51mm cartridge instead of the 5.56x45mm cartridge. the 7.62mm has superior stopping power and armour penetration, where as the 5.56 would fail to penetrate the hardened creamic plates of the vests the robbers were wearing
E-fight round two, START! lol, anywho its argued if it was intentional or not, its unknown since we cant like read what he was thinking at this last moments or ask him (obviously)... but yes, as his gun shot through his head a cops shot pierced his throat as he fell. true
lol AK47 machine guns. AK47 is an assault rifle, its very different than a machine gun. and about cops and military guys, they ARE trying to do their jobs and protect us, but in their free time they are always so smug and smart ass and act like big conceited bullies from school.
Sure some of them. But you can't say that ALL of them do. For instance, I can assume that the majority of youtube posters are kids, but not ALL of them.
And wouldn't it be easier to approach this rationally? Instead of turning these guys into antogonists, have you tried thinking what you could have possibly done to incite such action?
oh well after the flaming i did, and they got the better of the compromise- i deleted my video. but it didnt prove that i am not standing up for them because i was scared about my account, my organization already has the copyright dictators on us in september. besides, it was the regular type of video my organization does, just make fun of someone, with a computerized voice and a parody
No it doesn't. Search AK47 and look at the comparison video between it and the M16. The M16 gets no where near the penetration of an AK47's 7.62x39mm Soviet round. The 5.56NATO has long been considered under-powered.
The M16 fires a light, pointed round, backed by a lot of powder. The AK has a blunted, slower round. The AK gets greater stopping power, the M16 gets greater penetration.
You didn't watch the video did you. Serisouly, "AK-47", it should be the first video. It's entitled "AK-47vs.M16". The AK's bullet punches right through the wood-blocks. The M16's does not. The 7.62mm Soviet round retains its force better. The 5.56 is designed to splitter on impact.
At 28 yards, the 5.56mm NATO round failed to penetrate 8 inches of pine, the AK-47's penetrated and kept on going. At 8 yards the M16 did penetrate a cider block, leaving a small hole behind. The 7.62mm Soviet round's sheer force cut the cider block in half. The M16's bullet is used because it is lighter, and more accurate. The Soviets went with the 7.62x39mm bullet because it packs a great punch and it has greater penetration.
yes the 7.62x39mm round may penetrate certain materials further however the .223 or 5.56mm NATO round is a higher velocity round...its consider an armor peircing round. generally a smaller caliber round that is high velocity will peirce light body armor more effectivly then a larger caliber. as seen with the .45 ACP versus a 9mm. .45 ACP will seriously hurt unarmed person however the 9mm is more likely to go thru a vest due to its smaller size and faster speed.
While there is some truth to that, you do not always need to penetrate armor to kill someone. The simple blunt force of a 7.62mm round is enough to break bones and cause heart-failure. Generally the larger round wins, due to its ability to penetrate cover (trees, concrete walls, etc etc). In Vietnam US Marines noted that Vietcong fighters were secured hiding behind trees, while they had to dig foxholes like mad to find decent cover.
hatelawyers007 and lilpimpmikey20 i would love the police to come to your homes and fuckin shoot your fuckin heads off cause you are both knob jokeys. how the fuck would you like it if one of your family were in the police and they got killed.youve been playing to much grand theft auto you fuckin dickheads
His thumb was shot off, and he was trying to reload one-handed, when his gun went off. At the same time a police bullet pierced his unarmoured throat.
hey dumbshit - Larry committed suicide, period. No accident. And, he hit a lot of cops that day - you're just one hell of an ignorant loser who was drummed right out of the service for incompetence and your homosexuality. The truth hurts. Look on the bright side - you'll be able to clean toilets at Jack-in-the-Box for the rest of your pathetic life. Job security!
No he did commit suicide. Even when trying to reload on handed (which is simple) you never put the firearm to your jaw or with the muzzle pointed at you in any way. He died at his own hand on purpose or he was a fucking stupid retard.
Yes but him pointing the pistol at his head shows he had the intention on killing himself. That and being quoted as saying he would never be taken alive.
He was not bleeding out a vital artery. He was shot in the hand yes but you never put a gun to your chin to reload. If he was reloading with an injured hand he would have put the pistol between his knees to do so. How is putting the pistol to your chin going to help you reload? People just want to think the police stopped him when in actuality he killed himself voluntarily.
You are talking to someone who trains for self defence pistol scenarios. You never point the pistol at yourself for any reason even to reload. Also if he was reloading the firearm would have been empty. He only shot 5 times with that firearm before putting it to his chin and it holds 15. Why would he have tried to reload it when he still had ten shots in the magazine? Look at the police reports and you will see it is obvious he killed himself.
I am not talking only formal training I am also talking reason. Why would he have even bothered trying to reload the firearm when he still had ten rounds in the magazine of the weapon when he shot himself according to the police reports? There would have been no reason to reload it when he only shot a third of the rounds until this point. He killed himself and planned to. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
He just pulled out a pistol from his pocket, he could have shot rounds from it earlier, or maybe it got jammed like his other gun. I don't think someone walking around in pretty much an invinsable suit would just shot himself.
The firearm was not jammed and in the police reports he only fired five shots out of it and still had ten in the magazine. Common sense shows he was not trying to reload he was trying to shoot himself. His primary went down and he knew SWAT was on there way. He knew his time was up he could either get taken down and go to jail or die. He chose to die.
His AK jammed, so he switched to his pistol. His thumb as shot off by a police bullet. He placed the barrel of the gun under his chin. Reports conflict as to whether or not he was attempting to commit suicide. Either way, his spine was then pierced by a bullet in such a way that he would have pulled the trigger in reaction. Whether or not he meant to do it, he was shot in the head with his own gun.
It is pretty easy to see by anyone with half a brain that he committed suicide. Sorry you dont have half a brain. But this comment was not for you the comment reply that was for you was the one I said the people in Iraq are not fighting for the US or its civilians they are fighting for Iraq.
I realize that you commented on someone else. I do find it ammusing that you call me stupid when you replied to a months old comment. Way to go. Whatever your personal opinion, whether or not he commited suicide is debatable.
It is not debatable by anyone who knows the facts. It is clear cut suicide. Also I didnt look to see how old the comment was so that has nothing to do with stupidity. Shows how smart you are when you think the soldiers in Iraq are there for us.
The facts are that you can believe he killed himself, or that it wasn't his intention to pull the trigger. You can have your own opinion, just as you can have an opinion about Iraq. It's pretty brilliant that of you to make a blanket statement like that.
No look at the facts. His firearm according to police reports was not jammed and still had ten rounds in the magazine. He would not have been reloading it. Also our own government says now that Iraq had nothing to do about September 11th and they had no weapons of mass destruction and was not a threat to us. That shows that Iraq is being fought for Iraq not the US.
Well sorry i don't go and look at police reports, im just saying there is alot of events that could have happened that moment, that no one really knows except Larry himself, and he's dead. If you look at the footage, after he drops the hand gun, he picks it up, and seems like he is strugling for a couple seconds, people who usually commit suicide, take more than a few seconds to think over their decision. And common sense shows that he could have be adjusting his mask or glove.
How do you know how long people who commit suicide usually take to think things over? Look at the police reports and you can see his actions. He killed himself. That is fact.
If it is fact that he killed himself, then it is, im just not going to be closed minded about it and believe he did just because some police report said so. That's like believe something the government tells you.
No I believe it because the only other option of what he was doing wouldn't have taken place. He either committed suicide or he was reloading. If he was reloading why did he still have ten rounds in his magazine. Those are your options. He was reloading a firearm that still have 2/3 of the ammo in it or he was shooting himself.
Well I say he was adjusting his mask or glove. He was wearing all that body armor in like 85 degrees, he could have been hallucinating and thought he shot all of his ammo.
You do not put your firearm to your chin in any of those occasions. He meant to shoot himself. He raised his pistol to his chin. Put his finger on the trigger. Then pulled it.
No he would not have. He trained with his firearms and was very intelligent yet psychotic. You NEVER point you firearm at yourself and he knew that. He was smart and he knew what he was doing. He knew he was going to pull that trigger.
Did you know him personaly? because if you didn't, shut up. Alot of people said he was a navy seal, or had special weapon training, yet during the shootout, he had the accuracy of a 4 year old, it's all bolony.
It is commons sense they were not going for accuracy and it doesn't take special training to learn how to handle a pistol and not to pint it at yourself. He knew these things and he trained with his pistol constantly. He was not a novice with it. He knew not to point it at himself unless he was going to kill himself.
Just because someone goes through training doesn't mean they remember it all, when someone's adrenaline is pumping, it's all instinct. I don't doubt that he killed himself, I just know that there are a number of things that could have happened, he was only human, humans make mistakes.
Go ahead and believe that the police killed him if you need that comfort. The truth of the matter is he killed himself. He planned that he would kill himself rather than be taken to jail. He lived through with that plan. Have fun with your fictional thoughts that the police protect. They dont they clean up the mess.
I don't care if the police killed him or not. How can you say it's fact that he killed himself, you werent there, so shut up, it's all best guess, if you say anything about fact and fiction again your an ignorant fuck
It is not a guess look at the facts and it is easy to see if you have half a brain. You are an ignorant fuck if you see the facts and still think there is a chance it was an accident.
what facts? the only fact anyone knows about his so called suicide is what some cops said and the film of him doing it, there is no clear evidence of what happened your ignorant if you don't think that there is a chance something else could have happened.
Read the police reports specifically about his weapons and what condition they were in. Learn where he was bleeding from. His past criminal past and comments he openly made to people. This is a clear cut case of suicide. You are an ignorant idiot who thinks otherwise without knowing what happened. You seem to want to live on false hope.
I am not obsessed with him as much as you are, You probably dream about his dick everynight. You have to rule out comments he made, adrenaline always over rules thoughts. He might have commited suicide, I don't deny that, but I don't deny that that is the only event that could have happened, just sit in a dark corner, and think long and hard about it, and you will see there are so many more possiblities that could have happened during those few seconds when he had the pistol pointed at his chin
I am not obsessed at all. He was a low life idiot who deserved what he got. I simply feel that if I discuss something I should know about it. Also even with adrenaline you still are in control of what you do and have choices to make. Saying that what he said has no merit is like saying that a football playing throwing into double coverage cannot think because of his adrenaline. Irrational statement right there also. I know what happened and know his past. I know he killed him self.
You calling him an idiot shows you are bias to one decision. I know what I saw, and that was nothing. Only people who had a view of how he held the gun is the police, and some of them said he held it ferm and shot himself, Others say he didn't. And don't say you know he killed himself, that's an ignorant thing to say. There is not one person on the planet that knows if he killed himself or not.
Belial shut the fuck up you dont know shit. noone knows much about his history and how he got those firearms, you cant fucking say if he knew how to use it ow not, i could arm a 5 yearold with an ak47 and the 1st thing he would do is spray and pray. Its common sense.
I never said he was not just firing his AK. They were trying to create as much havoc as possible to make it easier to leave. I know what I am talking about in this matter. They did in fact know how to use there weapons they simply were trying to use a tactic called suppressive fire. Shoot constantly so you can move and get out. My point in this discussion was he committed suicide. So you can shut the fuck up for not understanding what I was saying.
if this dick hole had special weapons training. he wood have known the solution to the simple stove pipe jam that happened before he pulled out his side arm
Oh yes, just take the assumption that I have never been shot. That's always the smartest thing to do in an arguement with someone you have never met, and don't know
They weren't hitting SHIT. They were spraying and praying throughout the entire battle. Larry was cut off and surrounded, and he didn't even mean to shoot himself.
I only find it humorous that while you hold this air of superiority around you, you still scream and run at the thought of two men getting married. Honestly, the two of you sound like a couple of losers that beat off every chance they get.
huntpunk - 2 men getting married? What a FAGGOT piece of dogshit you are. You are way too sick to waste time on - now I see what a white trash low-life you are. Too bad you're even alive.
I'm white trash? You're the one worshipping two dead guys just because they got in a gun fight. You'd be better off worshipping the men and women who are still in Iraq, fighting for YOU.
YOU are the FAGGOT as well as the DUMBSHIT - just look at your comments. Is that shit I see on your nose you dumb motherfucker? You're not only a dicksucker but an ass-kisser
Jeez, you musta had it rough growing up. I don't know how get this terrorist mentality, but answer me this, if Larry owned so bad, why did he accidentally blast his brains out? If Emil rocked with his AK, why did he bleed to death crying like a bitch?
Hunt shit - I'm sure you'd faint if you ever heard a gunshot little boy (or is it little girl). Learn english - your writing looks like a 1st grader's. Your pig faggot pals were running and hiding like the cowardly bitch punks they are when Larry and Emil were blasting them. Larry and Emil were out in the open - so where are your hero pigs? Still hiding - like you behind your computer with your airgun that shoots plastic BB's. I hear your mommy calling you - time for bed, little bitch.
I've been shot at. I was in Baghdad when Saddam's foot soldiers fought us. I killed three men there alone. Maybe you should try serving in a combat zone before you tell me who's a pussy. Considering the situation, the cops did what they should've, and, thanks to them, the only ones that died that day were Larry and Emil.
Hey hunter- obviously you are only a hunter of cop's dicks to shove up your ass. Larry and Emil OWN fucken North Hollywood and for 2 guys to hold down 400 cops is pure bravery. You are simply jealous of their courage, since you are just another pigdick sucking FAGGOT who should have been shot by Larry that day to rid the world of your kind.
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This film was brilliant, the acting was great and some things were really shocking. I saw it because of 2 reasons - it was based on true events and I adore 3 actors here - Michael Madsen, Clare Carey and Mario Van Peebles. Thanks God, all good guys/girls survived. Real miracle
Magnolia296 11 months ago
lol, Kevin Butler was in this movie
emilan1212 1 year ago
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I liked this movie very much!
JouluApina 1 year ago
lol irl at the gun nerds in these comments.
iSammmmmm 1 year ago
Worst movie ever!! If you like pro-cop propoganda movies then this is the flick for you.
Suicide666Commando 1 year ago
ak 47 haves 7.62x39
nvidia4x4 2 years ago
those 2 guys were heroes
thats all i have to say it was sad that they got killed at the end
terminator734 2 years ago
your a jackass
policeman451 1 year ago
terminator734 is probably some youngster suffering from "angry at the world" syndrome. I wouldn't sweat it.
GoBlackwater 1 year ago
7.62x51 is the same as a .308 i have a gun that says 7.62x51 on the receiver and i put a bullet that said .308 and it shot all the same haha
jinxman15 2 years ago
@jinxman15 Yeah, they are the same, but the .308 is commercial grade while the 7.62x51 NATO is military grade. Armour piercing...
nathanbecker408 2 years ago
@nathanbecker408 armour peircing has nothing to do with the cartridge. Its the bullet that is armour peircing. 308 = commercial variant of the 7.2x51. They are interchangeable. The only thing that is different is when you are reloading the 7.62 you have to be aware that the brass is a bit thicker so you will have higher pressures with the same amount of powder.
thaifan88 1 year ago
everyones a thug on the net
mrtibbs24 2 years ago
that is my boy matasareanu romanian bad ass!!!! the real motherfucker!!
MrMariusmisin 2 years ago
it was a hk91 which looks like a g3 but fires a 762x51 instead of the 308
darogers125 2 years ago 2
No no, its the other way around, the G3 fires the 7.62x51 while the Hk91 firest the .308!
Damn this is funny xD
Ju87StukaB2 2 years ago
i live in germany and i work at h and k i think i know what im talking about
darogers125 2 years ago
1: "i work at h and k" - No you don't
2: "i know what im talking about " - No you don't
The .308 and 7,62x51 is the same goddamn round! I was just messing with you at first, but now.. well.. now youve just made my day.
Ju87StukaB2 2 years ago
@Ju87StukaB2 u work at H&K? wat can u tell me about the 416
Kane16802 1 year ago
@Kane16802
Nope, I dont. The other fella however claimed to do just that. I however own a G3 and in doing so I know what type of round it uses.
Cant say a lot about the 416 since Ive never used it. However, Ive run in to it in Norway a cuple of times and the only thing ive noticed is that i freezes quite easily in arctic conditions, like other AR15 derivates. Nice gun otherwise though it would seem, but I see it more fit as a police weapon rather than a military rifle.
Ju87StukaB2 1 year ago
@Ju87StukaB2 yea, im not a big fan of the 5.56 anyways
Kane16802 1 year ago
Doesn't both the G3 and the HK91 fire 7.62x51?
Jonste24 2 years ago
The A.I.M.S. they used aren't "automatic machine-guns" that fire "high-velocity" rounds.
It's a select-fire assault-rifle that fires low-velociy rounds.
ParamoreWorshipper 2 years ago
Clearing a stove pipe is one of the first things you learn.
TheGuy0385 2 years ago
the reason he couldnt clear it is because both of his hands had been shot
darogers125 2 years ago
Wow, I wish I was there. I can shoot better than the two criminals. I don't mis.
JohnDoe0329 3 years ago 3
ha shut up man couse you think is easy to go rob a bank and be infront of almost 300 cops shooting at you from every angle
having all this fucking pressure on you...you just cant think rite
you must play to much GTA games man think straight
chargers702 2 years ago
It is not easy, I think the cops will get me. But I am a good shooter. I shoot with real guns, and not at the computer.
JohnDoe0329 2 years ago
yea they will ge you exatly how they go them lol
chargers702 2 years ago
you forgot two t's what the fuck???
lol
mchyker 2 years ago
"This city deserves a better class of criminals"
Bruchomukachlieb 3 years ago
some shit THE JOKER said too
RealDefentertainment 3 years ago
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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
mrpuffycoat 3 years ago
Police found out Larry and Emil favorite movie are heat.
binibirotsa 3 years ago
Actually he did kill himself.. The plan for a bank robbery as extreme as that.... The plan is simple.. If you fail..... You shoot yourself.. He was shot in his hand and he picked up his pistol and put it at his chin.. Both of them stated you'll never take us alive.
llDevilsRejectll 3 years ago 2
not only was he shot in the head but one of the officers had shot him in the shoulder
toxcicity93 3 years ago
he shot himself in the head n the cops shot him in the spine
chargers702 2 years ago
Best movie ever
RIP Emil & Larry
Real gangsters
kimrobban 3 years ago
Lmfao, i would be saying that If you were nearby that shootout and got ur balls blown off from the gunfire.
assasincomedy 3 years ago 5
Anybody ever mention what a douchebag you are?
Fubex3 3 years ago
OMG.. this movie coulda been soo much better!! They barely showed Larry and Emil before the heist and when they did it was b/s. They showed them talking about cars on the way to the robbery..such b/s. And I think Emil is legally retarted in the movie. Sombody needs to make a movie and tell the whole story. From when they got arrested to the banks they robbed to N. Hollywood. That would be worth watching!!
godblessUSMC 3 years ago 3
Absolutely!
DutchDude002 3 years ago
omg...omg...epic
fr0zenbear 3 years ago
why do russian actors always play the part of the romanian in movies??? come on!
ginomontanna2 3 years ago
I thought Oleg was Romanian? No?
lst1195 3 years ago 2
So, there was one romanian guy, who wanted to go, in the car. The other guy didn't want to go. For us, romanians, it's a shame that one of ours did that. Few years later a drunk american marines runned a red light and smashed a car. One very well known romanian singer was killed. We blamed him and the american court who applied very few sanctions to him.But we didn't blame a nation for what one individual did.
serbantudor 3 years ago
This sensationalist "reporting" sure seems to glorify the criminals. But why should I be surprised...
ktaawbarrius 4 years ago
no 1 died except the two robbers.... job well done...
GoAussies63 4 years ago
Yeah just keep posting that.
You people are pretty fucked up, but no matter how much you recommend and know about this stuff you probably wouldn't stand a chance against those police either.
MehthodMan 4 years ago
I dont care about anyone elses opinions but, the AK47 should be THE weapon of choice for any criminal group. Also they used steel-plated 7.62 which made them even more hard-hitting, and 100-round drums. GO #1 ASSAULT RIFLE IN THE WORLD!!!
Ckomma 4 years ago
Actually the ammo was chinese steel core ammo has not been imported since Febuary 2, 1994. It was still copper jacketed but instead of lead the internal of the bullet was steel.
Lord666Belial 4 years ago 2
o lol. Well I watched Shootout! episode on this and they said steel-coated. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Ckomma 4 years ago
I'm glad those two ROMANIAN ASSHOLES DIED....
those piece of SHIT GUYS, hurt alot of people..
And these COWARDS family ended up suing the LAPD for their worthless little brat kids they left behind by trying to be IDIOTS....
GOOD, THEY DESERVE TO DIE......
FUCKING IDIOT ROMANIANS....
FriGGinFOOtBalleR 4 years ago
Only one was Romanian Larry was American.
Lord666Belial 4 years ago
scary to think how much you guys know about weapons.....
st0udemire 4 years ago
Why?
Lord666Belial 4 years ago
Yeah, and when Larry pulled the G3 from his trunk that pretty much owns both the AK and M16 rounds. With a 51mm cartridge you get more velocity then the M16 round and since it fires the same 7.62mm bullet as the AK you get similar ballistics when compared to the AK as well. However, when coupled with the 51mm case instead of the short and stubby 39mm case everything is enhanced: stopping power, penetration, and range.
ImMorTalLOrdWoRm 4 years ago
It wasn't technically a G3, it was 7.62x51mm, not 7.62x39mm like the A.I.M.S.
ParamoreWorshipper 2 years ago
It was a modified HK91 as far as I know, modified to be fully automatic, firing .308 rounds. Even more deadly then the AK. That was the point I was trying to make.
ImMorTalLOrdWoRm 2 years ago 3
@ImMorTalLOrdWoRm G3 rifle is that too, its armorpiercing also
drac00n 1 year ago
@ImMorTalLOrdWoRm the HK-91 was not automatic, listen to the audio it is Semi-Automatic, it is fired in quick succsesions
Kane16802 1 year ago
@ParamoreWorshipper they were using the Norinco Type-56
Kane16802 1 year ago
@Kane16802
They were Romanian A.I.M.S. Norinco's have different muzzles, stocks, and foregrips.
ParamoreWorshipper 1 year ago 2
@ParamoreWorshipper There never was any Romy AiMS rifles, its a misconception that came about because of the foregrip on Phillips rifle, someone mistook it for the one on a AiMS PMD 65 rifle and the Wikipedia entry was altered, the rifles were without a shadow of a doubt Chinese Norinco Type 56's.
Kane16802 1 year ago
I know this sounds stupid , but these guys attaculy were smart. Because they used ak47 they also made cops change the whole new look on bank robbery.
lildarkkill 4 years ago 5
Emil Matasareanu is from Romania
constantin85 4 years ago 3
this makes me proud to be Romanian 100%
blackwitch62 4 years ago
As far as rounds, either one will put you with the worms just as easy!
godblessUSMC 4 years ago
All you need to know about the AK vs. M16 is that one is like a machine gun and the other like a rifle! If it's urban take the K, if it take some aim go for the M16.
godblessUSMC 4 years ago
I'd rather go for a different rifle than the M16. I'd take the British Enfield L85A2 over the M16 any day.
madpaintbalerx 4 years ago
i jjst wanted to say why the L85a2? why not the L1A1? its a much better rifle firing the 7.62x51mm cartridge instead of the 5.56x45mm cartridge. the 7.62mm has superior stopping power and armour penetration, where as the 5.56 would fail to penetrate the hardened creamic plates of the vests the robbers were wearing
ste887 4 years ago
Yes, yes. I'd choose many things over an M16.
madpaintbalerx 4 years ago
E-fight round two, START! lol, anywho its argued if it was intentional or not, its unknown since we cant like read what he was thinking at this last moments or ask him (obviously)... but yes, as his gun shot through his head a cops shot pierced his throat as he fell. true
SinisterSquirl 4 years ago
lol AK47 machine guns. AK47 is an assault rifle, its very different than a machine gun. and about cops and military guys, they ARE trying to do their jobs and protect us, but in their free time they are always so smug and smart ass and act like big conceited bullies from school.
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
Sure some of them. But you can't say that ALL of them do. For instance, I can assume that the majority of youtube posters are kids, but not ALL of them.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
well there is this one team who tried to kill my account, and they were a bunch of pig fuckers
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
And wouldn't it be easier to approach this rationally? Instead of turning these guys into antogonists, have you tried thinking what you could have possibly done to incite such action?
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
oh well after the flaming i did, and they got the better of the compromise- i deleted my video. but it didnt prove that i am not standing up for them because i was scared about my account, my organization already has the copyright dictators on us in september. besides, it was the regular type of video my organization does, just make fun of someone, with a computerized voice and a parody
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
Just stick within the rules, and you can get away with plenty.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
yea, its ok i dont have the problem anymore
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
cool.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
actually, AK47 characteristics fit more to a machinegun than an assault rifle. Its an argueable thing but hes not wrong.
SinisterSquirl 4 years ago
and what are those characteristics? can you expand? does that make it any different than the m16?
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
Caliber, mm - 7,62;
Weight, kg - 4,3;
Length, mm - 870;
Length of a barrel, mm - 415;
Initial velocity of a bullet, km/s - 715;
Rate of shooting, shot per minute - 660;
Rate of fire, shot per minute - 40;
Cartridge capacity (ammo)- 30;
Aimed fire range, m - 800;
really similar to MG's such as the rpk etc
SinisterSquirl 4 years ago
shh. im hunting wabbits
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
shh. im hunting insurgents >.>
SinisterSquirl 4 years ago
M16 fires a lighter round, but gets more penetration.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
well im russian so i see things differently
ThisIsGonnaBeCool 4 years ago
No it doesn't. Search AK47 and look at the comparison video between it and the M16. The M16 gets no where near the penetration of an AK47's 7.62x39mm Soviet round. The 5.56NATO has long been considered under-powered.
PALADINHAMMMER 4 years ago
The M16 fires a light, pointed round, backed by a lot of powder. The AK has a blunted, slower round. The AK gets greater stopping power, the M16 gets greater penetration.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
You didn't watch the video did you. Serisouly, "AK-47", it should be the first video. It's entitled "AK-47vs.M16". The AK's bullet punches right through the wood-blocks. The M16's does not. The 7.62mm Soviet round retains its force better. The 5.56 is designed to splitter on impact.
PALADINHAMMMER 4 years ago
At 28 yards, the 5.56mm NATO round failed to penetrate 8 inches of pine, the AK-47's penetrated and kept on going. At 8 yards the M16 did penetrate a cider block, leaving a small hole behind. The 7.62mm Soviet round's sheer force cut the cider block in half. The M16's bullet is used because it is lighter, and more accurate. The Soviets went with the 7.62x39mm bullet because it packs a great punch and it has greater penetration.
PALADINHAMMMER 4 years ago 2
yes the 7.62x39mm round may penetrate certain materials further however the .223 or 5.56mm NATO round is a higher velocity round...its consider an armor peircing round. generally a smaller caliber round that is high velocity will peirce light body armor more effectivly then a larger caliber. as seen with the .45 ACP versus a 9mm. .45 ACP will seriously hurt unarmed person however the 9mm is more likely to go thru a vest due to its smaller size and faster speed.
xdrthiefx 4 years ago
While there is some truth to that, you do not always need to penetrate armor to kill someone. The simple blunt force of a 7.62mm round is enough to break bones and cause heart-failure. Generally the larger round wins, due to its ability to penetrate cover (trees, concrete walls, etc etc). In Vietnam US Marines noted that Vietcong fighters were secured hiding behind trees, while they had to dig foxholes like mad to find decent cover.
PALADINHAMMMER 4 years ago
I'm sensing a little adolescent angst there.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
hatelawyers007 and lilpimpmikey20 i would love the police to come to your homes and fuckin shoot your fuckin heads off cause you are both knob jokeys. how the fuck would you like it if one of your family were in the police and they got killed.youve been playing to much grand theft auto you fuckin dickheads
Azathespaz666 4 years ago
im sorry who won? ohh yeah the good guys thats right
kman9327 4 years ago
I love to see pigs die a slow and painful death, it makes me laugh. Then I do my trademark tap dance on top of their dead fucken guts and celebrate.
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
His thumb was shot off, and he was trying to reload one-handed, when his gun went off. At the same time a police bullet pierced his unarmoured throat.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
hey dumbshit - Larry committed suicide, period. No accident. And, he hit a lot of cops that day - you're just one hell of an ignorant loser who was drummed right out of the service for incompetence and your homosexuality. The truth hurts. Look on the bright side - you'll be able to clean toilets at Jack-in-the-Box for the rest of your pathetic life. Job security!
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
You just WISH he committed suicide so won't have to admit to worshipping a an incompetent dead man.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
No he did commit suicide. Even when trying to reload on handed (which is simple) you never put the firearm to your jaw or with the muzzle pointed at you in any way. He died at his own hand on purpose or he was a fucking stupid retard.
Lord666Belial 4 years ago
It's debatable, because a bullet pierced his spine in such a way that it would have caused his finger to pull the trigger.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
Yes but him pointing the pistol at his head shows he had the intention on killing himself. That and being quoted as saying he would never be taken alive.
Lord666Belial 4 years ago
Have you ever tried to reload a pistol under heavy fire, while you were bleeding out a vital artery? Didn't think so, so stfu
Kiter02 3 years ago
He was not bleeding out a vital artery. He was shot in the hand yes but you never put a gun to your chin to reload. If he was reloading with an injured hand he would have put the pistol between his knees to do so. How is putting the pistol to your chin going to help you reload? People just want to think the police stopped him when in actuality he killed himself voluntarily.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
You are talking to someone who trains for self defence pistol scenarios. You never point the pistol at yourself for any reason even to reload. Also if he was reloading the firearm would have been empty. He only shot 5 times with that firearm before putting it to his chin and it holds 15. Why would he have tried to reload it when he still had ten shots in the magazine? Look at the police reports and you will see it is obvious he killed himself.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
I am not saying he was smart for doing it, but there is no evidence indicating that he had received any formal training in that field.
Kiter02 3 years ago
I am not talking only formal training I am also talking reason. Why would he have even bothered trying to reload the firearm when he still had ten rounds in the magazine of the weapon when he shot himself according to the police reports? There would have been no reason to reload it when he only shot a third of the rounds until this point. He killed himself and planned to. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
He just pulled out a pistol from his pocket, he could have shot rounds from it earlier, or maybe it got jammed like his other gun. I don't think someone walking around in pretty much an invinsable suit would just shot himself.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
The firearm was not jammed and in the police reports he only fired five shots out of it and still had ten in the magazine. Common sense shows he was not trying to reload he was trying to shoot himself. His primary went down and he knew SWAT was on there way. He knew his time was up he could either get taken down and go to jail or die. He chose to die.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
His AK jammed, so he switched to his pistol. His thumb as shot off by a police bullet. He placed the barrel of the gun under his chin. Reports conflict as to whether or not he was attempting to commit suicide. Either way, his spine was then pierced by a bullet in such a way that he would have pulled the trigger in reaction. Whether or not he meant to do it, he was shot in the head with his own gun.
hunterkiller232134 3 years ago
It is pretty easy to see by anyone with half a brain that he committed suicide. Sorry you dont have half a brain. But this comment was not for you the comment reply that was for you was the one I said the people in Iraq are not fighting for the US or its civilians they are fighting for Iraq.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
I realize that you commented on someone else. I do find it ammusing that you call me stupid when you replied to a months old comment. Way to go. Whatever your personal opinion, whether or not he commited suicide is debatable.
hunterkiller232134 3 years ago
It is not debatable by anyone who knows the facts. It is clear cut suicide. Also I didnt look to see how old the comment was so that has nothing to do with stupidity. Shows how smart you are when you think the soldiers in Iraq are there for us.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
The facts are that you can believe he killed himself, or that it wasn't his intention to pull the trigger. You can have your own opinion, just as you can have an opinion about Iraq. It's pretty brilliant that of you to make a blanket statement like that.
hunterkiller232134 3 years ago
No look at the facts. His firearm according to police reports was not jammed and still had ten rounds in the magazine. He would not have been reloading it. Also our own government says now that Iraq had nothing to do about September 11th and they had no weapons of mass destruction and was not a threat to us. That shows that Iraq is being fought for Iraq not the US.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
Well sorry i don't go and look at police reports, im just saying there is alot of events that could have happened that moment, that no one really knows except Larry himself, and he's dead. If you look at the footage, after he drops the hand gun, he picks it up, and seems like he is strugling for a couple seconds, people who usually commit suicide, take more than a few seconds to think over their decision. And common sense shows that he could have be adjusting his mask or glove.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
How do you know how long people who commit suicide usually take to think things over? Look at the police reports and you can see his actions. He killed himself. That is fact.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
I read phsycology books that involve suicide
If it is fact that he killed himself, then it is, im just not going to be closed minded about it and believe he did just because some police report said so. That's like believe something the government tells you.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
No I believe it because the only other option of what he was doing wouldn't have taken place. He either committed suicide or he was reloading. If he was reloading why did he still have ten rounds in his magazine. Those are your options. He was reloading a firearm that still have 2/3 of the ammo in it or he was shooting himself.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
Well I say he was adjusting his mask or glove. He was wearing all that body armor in like 85 degrees, he could have been hallucinating and thought he shot all of his ammo.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
You do not put your firearm to your chin in any of those occasions. He meant to shoot himself. He raised his pistol to his chin. Put his finger on the trigger. Then pulled it.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
he only had one usable hand though, desprate and desusional he could have done that.
Just what I think, it is possible that he could have been dumb enough at that moment to do that.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
No he would not have. He trained with his firearms and was very intelligent yet psychotic. You NEVER point you firearm at yourself and he knew that. He was smart and he knew what he was doing. He knew he was going to pull that trigger.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
Did you know him personaly? because if you didn't, shut up. Alot of people said he was a navy seal, or had special weapon training, yet during the shootout, he had the accuracy of a 4 year old, it's all bolony.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
It is commons sense they were not going for accuracy and it doesn't take special training to learn how to handle a pistol and not to pint it at yourself. He knew these things and he trained with his pistol constantly. He was not a novice with it. He knew not to point it at himself unless he was going to kill himself.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
Just because someone goes through training doesn't mean they remember it all, when someone's adrenaline is pumping, it's all instinct. I don't doubt that he killed himself, I just know that there are a number of things that could have happened, he was only human, humans make mistakes.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
Go ahead and believe that the police killed him if you need that comfort. The truth of the matter is he killed himself. He planned that he would kill himself rather than be taken to jail. He lived through with that plan. Have fun with your fictional thoughts that the police protect. They dont they clean up the mess.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
I don't care if the police killed him or not. How can you say it's fact that he killed himself, you werent there, so shut up, it's all best guess, if you say anything about fact and fiction again your an ignorant fuck
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
It is not a guess look at the facts and it is easy to see if you have half a brain. You are an ignorant fuck if you see the facts and still think there is a chance it was an accident.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
what facts? the only fact anyone knows about his so called suicide is what some cops said and the film of him doing it, there is no clear evidence of what happened your ignorant if you don't think that there is a chance something else could have happened.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
Read the police reports specifically about his weapons and what condition they were in. Learn where he was bleeding from. His past criminal past and comments he openly made to people. This is a clear cut case of suicide. You are an ignorant idiot who thinks otherwise without knowing what happened. You seem to want to live on false hope.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
I am not obsessed with him as much as you are, You probably dream about his dick everynight. You have to rule out comments he made, adrenaline always over rules thoughts. He might have commited suicide, I don't deny that, but I don't deny that that is the only event that could have happened, just sit in a dark corner, and think long and hard about it, and you will see there are so many more possiblities that could have happened during those few seconds when he had the pistol pointed at his chin
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
I am not obsessed at all. He was a low life idiot who deserved what he got. I simply feel that if I discuss something I should know about it. Also even with adrenaline you still are in control of what you do and have choices to make. Saying that what he said has no merit is like saying that a football playing throwing into double coverage cannot think because of his adrenaline. Irrational statement right there also. I know what happened and know his past. I know he killed him self.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
You calling him an idiot shows you are bias to one decision. I know what I saw, and that was nothing. Only people who had a view of how he held the gun is the police, and some of them said he held it ferm and shot himself, Others say he didn't. And don't say you know he killed himself, that's an ignorant thing to say. There is not one person on the planet that knows if he killed himself or not.
lionslicer9999 3 years ago
Pointing a pistol at yourself shows intent. There for the cause of death is directed to him. Simple fact.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
i say he got so board of those piece of shit cops not killin him that it was time to do it himself hahaha
toxcicity93 3 years ago
Belial shut the fuck up you dont know shit. noone knows much about his history and how he got those firearms, you cant fucking say if he knew how to use it ow not, i could arm a 5 yearold with an ak47 and the 1st thing he would do is spray and pray. Its common sense.
assasincomedy 3 years ago
I never said he was not just firing his AK. They were trying to create as much havoc as possible to make it easier to leave. I know what I am talking about in this matter. They did in fact know how to use there weapons they simply were trying to use a tactic called suppressive fire. Shoot constantly so you can move and get out. My point in this discussion was he committed suicide. So you can shut the fuck up for not understanding what I was saying.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago 3
Emil paid a guy to bring them in from Romania(where he was born).
He sold them in America.
One of the guns he used that day was a Romanian clone of an AKMS called the "AIMS".
ParamoreWorshipper 3 years ago
@ParamoreWorshipper their guns were chinese
Kane16802 1 year ago
your rite this is very user friendly why do u think rebel childeren in south africa use it
toxcicity93 3 years ago
if this dick hole had special weapons training. he wood have known the solution to the simple stove pipe jam that happened before he pulled out his side arm
toxcicity93 3 years ago
maybe he didnt the jamed ak couse he didnt have enough ammo sow he just didnt care
chargers702 2 years ago
@toxcicity93 he was shot in the hand
Kane16802 1 year ago
u havent either so y u talkin
montysport94 3 years ago
Oh yes, just take the assumption that I have never been shot. That's always the smartest thing to do in an arguement with someone you have never met, and don't know
Kiter02 3 years ago
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montysport94 3 years ago
well have you
montysport94 3 years ago
They weren't hitting SHIT. They were spraying and praying throughout the entire battle. Larry was cut off and surrounded, and he didn't even mean to shoot himself.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
I HAVE in fact been down the barrel of an AK. I was fired at by TRAINED soldiers. You two shitheads probably couldn't hit shit with a .22.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
I only find it humorous that while you hold this air of superiority around you, you still scream and run at the thought of two men getting married. Honestly, the two of you sound like a couple of losers that beat off every chance they get.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
huntpunk - 2 men getting married? What a FAGGOT piece of dogshit you are. You are way too sick to waste time on - now I see what a white trash low-life you are. Too bad you're even alive.
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
I'm white trash? You're the one worshipping two dead guys just because they got in a gun fight. You'd be better off worshipping the men and women who are still in Iraq, fighting for YOU.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
The people fighting in Iraq are fighting for Iraq not the US or the US citizens.
Lord666Belial 3 years ago
Actually, I was calling you homophobic. That's okay, though, I'll be patient with you, dumbshit.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
YOU are the FAGGOT as well as the DUMBSHIT - just look at your comments. Is that shit I see on your nose you dumb motherfucker? You're not only a dicksucker but an ass-kisser
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
Jeez, you musta had it rough growing up. I don't know how get this terrorist mentality, but answer me this, if Larry owned so bad, why did he accidentally blast his brains out? If Emil rocked with his AK, why did he bleed to death crying like a bitch?
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
Hunt shit - I'm sure you'd faint if you ever heard a gunshot little boy (or is it little girl). Learn english - your writing looks like a 1st grader's. Your pig faggot pals were running and hiding like the cowardly bitch punks they are when Larry and Emil were blasting them. Larry and Emil were out in the open - so where are your hero pigs? Still hiding - like you behind your computer with your airgun that shoots plastic BB's. I hear your mommy calling you - time for bed, little bitch.
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
I've been shot at. I was in Baghdad when Saddam's foot soldiers fought us. I killed three men there alone. Maybe you should try serving in a combat zone before you tell me who's a pussy. Considering the situation, the cops did what they should've, and, thanks to them, the only ones that died that day were Larry and Emil.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
You've been shot at? If it was me shooting, you'd be dead motherfucker. I don't miss.
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
Neither do I. I'd bet money I could take any of you weekend warrior fuckwits.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
Wow, I'm surprised that an asshole like you is secure enough in his sexuality to suggest such a thing.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
Watch your fucking mouth. If you think you're such tough shit, go out there and try to stand up against a machine gun. Grow up, you fucking moron.
hunterkiller232134 4 years ago
Hey hunter- obviously you are only a hunter of cop's dicks to shove up your ass. Larry and Emil OWN fucken North Hollywood and for 2 guys to hold down 400 cops is pure bravery. You are simply jealous of their courage, since you are just another pigdick sucking FAGGOT who should have been shot by Larry that day to rid the world of your kind.
hatelawyers007 4 years ago
Where can I see the whole movie? They need to make a version for the big screen
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holddatdown2 4 years ago
that movie is awsome
stunthakon 5 years ago