wtf, se fast forward einai to video? paides mi to lete toso grhgora, akougete malakia. peite to opws to au8entiko. To au8entiko einai to apolyto syn8ima
Oi opadoi ths bosnias to kanane kai mousiko kommati -> watch?v=TAslJnMJp0k
Yes,. but all friendlly teams can use the same theme but other words, ofcourse,. rivals sould never do that!, I've seen Boca do this ,. and that is not ok! For example Steaua Bucuresti and FC Barcelona , have the same colors,. some players fof Steaua played at Barcelona thru time, and the Barcelona fans dont get upset if Steaua ''copy'' the melodic theme from them,. it's like related,...
@AlanJArdelean especialy parttizan and paok are b rothers when a friendly between this two teams is going to be played in the stadium of the one in the ultras gate there is both partizan and paok and partizan took from paok not only the melodic theme but the words , but it was to be sing at a greek rival of paok olympiakos so thats was the situation
@MatydeRiver 1st of all we are not the only ones who copy ok???? and you are from argentina what do you want to greek teams???????? maybe you copy.........
@iordanisdanis At all, we had never copied any song, many teams from all the world copy our song since it's very famous, and you can see we're the original owners and the best fans in this fucking world by seeing the date were the video of the chant was filmed, it was in 2005 and all the copyes started a couple years after that, included your's.
re poutanosperma tou kerata.....palio flwre skase gamw to soi sou....palio poustra....des to videaki pou toso goustareis ase thn mana sou na thn gamaw k kane k toubeki apo panw....vrwmopousta!
galinhaki pote re propagandisti exeis vgei na vareseis se stasis se dromous ktl?? mono emeis vgenoume kai sas kynigame sta leoforia kai trote ta mpoukalia sta kefalia vlaka otan eistai sto dromo kai sta leoforia gyrnate tis faneles anapoda na min sas doume skatofloroi
emeis de prolavame na to antigrapsoume esas sas arese vromoskouliko kai kateutheian to kanate sinthima......Poutanas gie koita to xali sou kai meta mila gia emas..
paidia den kserw ti lete eseis den to lew oute proklitika oute gia na to ikiopioithw!Opws kseroume to synthima einai ths RIVER kai opws sxedon ola ta synthimata to exoume klepsei oloi auto to synthima to eipame kai eimai sigouros giauto sto match me thn Roseborg propersi.Dysthxos den to legame katholou kala(para poli grhgora)kai to exoume ksanapei kata kairous!
oloi eseis p vrizete zilevete ton lao tou paok paliopoustes giati dn tha ton exete pote kante 3-4 pipes stous proedrous sas ta kapitaloskyla kai min milate skatozwa tou upokosmou
καλα ρε μας δουλευετε;;;αυτο το λενε απ'το 2004 στη λατινικη Αμερικη.τι καινουργιο συνθηματακι;;;πειτε και το αλλο το καινουργιο,τον υμνο της ριβερ πλειτ,αλλα οπου λεει ριβερ θα λετε ραοκ,δικο σας θα ναι ολοκαινουργιο
gia ti na milisoume re apromavroi lagoi gia to treximo pou rixate sto panepistimio kai bikate sto kilikeio i gia to ntropiastiko gia esas rantevou tis mikras?
oxi mporeite na milisete gia ta MAT pou prepei na tous anapsete mia lampada isa me to mpoi tous gia ta 3 apanwta dakrygona pou mas riksane kai de sas valame mesa sto pale sta LAGOSKOUFEIA. episis mporeite na peite gia to pragmatiko kai me diko sas tilefwnima rantevou sta imia meta to Platanitsi. Oute enan sas den eidame,giati? H mikra einai epistimoniki fantasia...Kalinixta gkebeliskoi
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psaxe ligo ta video sto youtube kai des oti kai mesa stin tourkia sas petousame fotovolides kai trehate lagoi.kai ti allo tha eleges gia ti mikra otan ntropiazesai etsi?pantos eseis eprepe na ginetai sprinter,sta lagoskoufeia kanate 100 metra se 7 deyterolepta.....
Esi (an se eixe afisei i mama sou na pas ston teliko twn mayroskoufeiwn) profanestata isouna se apostasi toulaxiston 100 metrwn apo to skiniko. Pane to vrady sto SOL na se poune ki alla paramy8akia oi supermarketades na koimi8eis isixos. Kalinixta
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re pouthenades ti milate?afou xerete osoi eisastan ekei otan sas trehame oti to xilo to fagate k as eihate krani k molotof k diafora...alla de me eipes gia mikra katholou...oute me eipes ti egine ti mera p hasame me stavridi 3-0....perastika sas...
oxi de sta'pane kala. Tanks eixame kai antiarmatika kai 2 mpazoukas. Alla eseis epeidi eiste poli magkes kai alanomortides mas ta pirate me gymna xeria kai fagame kai ksylo. Kai ir8ate kai sto PAOK-OSFP eksw aptin Toumpa kai mas gamisate kai mas trexate se olo to gipedo. Kamia 30-35 atoma isastan alla treksate olo to gipedo giati eimaste flwroi. Entaksei? Mipos einai liga,na valw ki alla? Arxiparamy8ades tis poutsas..
re skoulikia ti 8a ginei me sas? Mia zoi tetoies malakies 8a lete? Panw apo 2 xronia exei pou to sin8ima tis River (giati tis River einai) filokseneitai se paoktsidika site. Xwria pou an isxyei oti to lete ki eseis,einai akoma pio megali kseftila giati oute kan to xoume akousei pou8ena na to lete,mallon giati psi8yrizete gatakia. Ena mats to eipame kai oi eidiseis tin epomeni mera grafane gia to kainourgio sin8ima..ANYPARKTOI PSEYTES MIA ZOI re pousti
re file pisteyw ellinika milaw. de me noiazei poias omadas einai River i Boca,to 8ema einai oti to lene KAI OI 2,emeis etyxe na to paroume apo tin River kai to xoume dimosieymeno edw kai 2 xronia se PAOKtsidika site. To giati to eipame twra,einai diko mas 8ema. Min eiste toso mikroprepeis wste na fantazeste oti sas klevoume sin8imata. ayto leme..
epeidh skoulikakia den eblepa kai poly to prwta8lhma ths b e8nikhs,ti elege to diko sas syn8hma?campeon ths fapas.akou ekei campeon,ksekinhste apo ta basika(kanena kypello as poume)kai campeon sthn b.
Λοιπον, μουναρες σκουλικια μην τιχον ξαναμιλησετε για ΠΑΟΚ θα σας γαμησουμε. Δωστε εισητηρια ρε κοτουλες τι γινεται φοβαστε την ασπρομαυρη φαπα ? Ε τι ειναι η μηπως τη πουτσα που θα φατε. ΛΑΓΟΙΙΙΙ
ante vre malaka t eidate apo t internet p to eixame dimoseiusei k t klepsate mounopana skoulikiarides...mia zwi ksylo mia zwi kleutes sin8imatwn protathlites tis propagandas...kante kana sold out reeeee...aleo aleo aleo lene pws eisai mia outopia...GATE 4
erpeta tis gis kai tis psolis sti zoi simasia den ehei ti les alla pos to les. den ksero an to tragoudousate sto mpanio i sto spiti sas alla se gipedo pano 10 atoma den to fonaksan pote. alla an goustarete sas dinoume ta pneymatika diakaiomata mipos kai psisete kanena akomi kai kanete entos tou aiona kana sold out.
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH EISTE VLAAAAAAKEEESSSSS TERMAAA!!!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHHEHE . ISE MIA OUTOPIA LEEI HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH VLAAAKEEESS!!!!
ka21om 4 months ago
wtf, se fast forward einai to video? paides mi to lete toso grhgora, akougete malakia. peite to opws to au8entiko. To au8entiko einai to apolyto syn8ima
Oi opadoi ths bosnias to kanane kai mousiko kommati -> watch?v=TAslJnMJp0k
dimalex8 6 months ago
they said that you are a utopia
and always the police is searching for me (in greeks it sais and always searching for me the police)
whatever they say i dont care
what are you from me no one knows
aleo aleo aleo aleo aleo aleoooooooo
here my friend this is the translation
iordanisdanis 10 months ago
Fuck? Aris! Fuck Boca!
Paok & River Plate the best Fans!
Respect!
thefuckingsound 11 months ago
AGUANTE RIVER PLATE!
guillermo123ful 1 year ago
can somebody translate me this song to english, and can somebody write it for me in english. thank you
pekicpfc 1 year ago
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@pekicpfc
they said that you are a utopia
and always the police is searching for me (in greeks it sais and always searching for me the police)
whatever they say i dont care
what are you from me no one knows
aleo aleo aleo aleo aleo aleoooooooo
here my friend this is the translation
iordanisdanis 10 months ago
Ohhh qe manga de forros (8)
this song from argentina ... Mother Fuckers -.-
INDEPENDIENTE DE AVELLANEDA
NarutoSenninXD 1 year ago
this is a river plate song!!!!
don't copy
MatydeRiver 2 years ago
Yes,. but all friendlly teams can use the same theme but other words, ofcourse,. rivals sould never do that!, I've seen Boca do this ,. and that is not ok! For example Steaua Bucuresti and FC Barcelona , have the same colors,. some players fof Steaua played at Barcelona thru time, and the Barcelona fans dont get upset if Steaua ''copy'' the melodic theme from them,. it's like related,...
AlanJArdelean 2 years ago
@AlanJArdelean the same is with paok and partizan
iordanisdanis 10 months ago
@AlanJArdelean especialy parttizan and paok are b rothers when a friendly between this two teams is going to be played in the stadium of the one in the ultras gate there is both partizan and paok and partizan took from paok not only the melodic theme but the words , but it was to be sing at a greek rival of paok olympiakos so thats was the situation
iordanisdanis 10 months ago
@MatydeRiver 1st of all we are not the only ones who copy ok???? and you are from argentina what do you want to greek teams???????? maybe you copy.........
iordanisdanis 10 months ago
@iordanisdanis At all, we had never copied any song, many teams from all the world copy our song since it's very famous, and you can see we're the original owners and the best fans in this fucking world by seeing the date were the video of the chant was filmed, it was in 2005 and all the copyes started a couple years after that, included your's.
IlCapocannonierre 8 months ago
this song is from argentine
estan re sarpados loco dejen de copiar
maxi9867 2 years ago
to skotosate re! afiste na to poun oi opadoi ths river, eiste asxetoi. users grapste "sos cagon" na deite ti tha pei ruthmos
Giormak21 2 years ago
den gamiesai kai esy r!
Giourkas4a 1 year ago
Ante gamhsou mwrh klaniara trelokotsidou!
ANTE GAMHSOU
Giormak21 1 year ago
re poutanosperma tou kerata.....palio flwre skase gamw to soi sou....palio poustra....des to videaki pou toso goustareis ase thn mana sou na thn gamaw k kane k toubeki apo panw....vrwmopousta!
Giourkas4a 1 year ago
sunfonw me ton katw
JECHFEAT1989 3 years ago
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very very bad....sad..
dont copy songs u idiots..
FROM ARGENTINA TO THE WORLD...
All teams from argentina sing this song...its very common...
111BFS 3 years ago
yes but where is the problem every team in the world sing it..also you copie song from us idiots
Giopanthiras3 3 years ago
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lol...tell me one..
111BFS 3 years ago
8a simfonisw me ton banksy4A
zAELizome 3 years ago
einai ap ta pio wraia sinthimata mas kai to gamame legontas to toso grhgora!!
pio arga re magkes!!ta spaei se argo tempo!
dokimaste to kai tha deite
banksy4A 3 years ago 18
kala leei to palikari.. antigrapse opws to kanei o aris..
familiasuper3 2 years ago
galinhaki pote re propagandisti exeis vgei na vareseis se stasis se dromous ktl?? mono emeis vgenoume kai sas kynigame sta leoforia kai trote ta mpoukalia sta kefalia vlaka otan eistai sto dromo kai sta leoforia gyrnate tis faneles anapoda na min sas doume skatofloroi
Steavmaster 3 years ago
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stis antigrafes eisaste kales...
NpapArianos3 3 years ago
emeis de prolavame na to antigrapsoume esas sas arese vromoskouliko kai kateutheian to kanate sinthima......Poutanas gie koita to xali sou kai meta mila gia emas..
greeksamis 2 years ago
@ozturkfm ananesikim horuspu sucuk..
CHRISEDESSA 3 years ago
bune lan okadar kişiden çıkan sese bak.bumu taraftarlık :D -siz bikere ADS maçına gelinde görün-taraftar nasıl olur ;)
ozankuran 3 years ago
Alayına gıder kralını siker!!uA
Discordian 3 years ago
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River Plate Champion of the World in 1986
32 Argentine leagues !!!!!
Copas Internacionales
2 Copas Libertadores 1986 y 1996
1 Copa Intercontinental 1986
1 Copa Interamericana 1987
1 Supercopa 1997
RIVER PLATE
EL MÁS GRANDE LEJOS
Gabym08 3 years ago
fuckkk greecee
ozturkfm 3 years ago
aguante river plate argentina
josedecarca 3 years ago
4444444444444444444444444444
katalilos 3 years ago
mporite kapoios na m pi pos to lene stin argentini?
aelistas333 3 years ago
sos cagon file ;)
xalil23 3 years ago 2
Ma poso blakas na einai kapoios gia na katsei na vrizetai mesa apo to youtube?
Flwrakia afhste to pc kai pate na vreite kamia gomena
FORZA PAOK
mario66677 3 years ago 2
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to xete gamisei to kaimeno to sinthimataki twn argentinwn malakes
aek21athens 4 years ago
afto to sunthima einai to "sos cagon" tis river plate
Salonica13PAO 4 years ago 3
q hambre!!! ARGENTINA CARAJO
abcdiario2 4 years ago
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hahahahahaha!!!!re mpaokia poly plaka exete.den to ma8ate kala akomh.8elete pollh meleth akoma...panivlakes
vag83gr 4 years ago
paidia den kserw ti lete eseis den to lew oute proklitika oute gia na to ikiopioithw!Opws kseroume to synthima einai ths RIVER kai opws sxedon ola ta synthimata to exoume klepsei oloi auto to synthima to eipame kai eimai sigouros giauto sto match me thn Roseborg propersi.Dysthxos den to legame katholou kala(para poli grhgora)kai to exoume ksanapei kata kairous!
panvas22985 4 years ago
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gia gelia ke gia klamata iste
VAMOS ARIS
ARISFRVR1 4 years ago
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oura bromo mpaokia
se auton ton ri8mo einai ena sin8imataki tis
IRAKLARAS mou.
bromo copiaridi. OURA!!!!!!!
hErCuLiStAs10 4 years ago
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gamo to mpaok sas mounopana.
ira re koloalbanoi.
Akklog 4 years ago
bre papara eiste 1000 atoma me tis fototipies re..3ypnate ligo..milane kai oi gries..etsi opws to pate i b ethniki einai konta mlkes
sky17gr 4 years ago
aleo xoris na eimai sigouros simainei GAMISI
aristosvir 4 years ago 2
oloi eseis p vrizete zilevete ton lao tou paok paliopoustes giati dn tha ton exete pote kante 3-4 pipes stous proedrous sas ta kapitaloskyla kai min milate skatozwa tou upokosmou
H DOKSA TOU PAOK DN EXEI OUTE ARXH OUTE TELOS
ο καιρος γαρ εγγυς
paoktshsostokokalo 4 years ago
kai ti simenei to Aleo ALeo? gia peite mas;
darkcheq 4 years ago
Κτύπησα τα φτερά σημαίνει!
panvas22985 4 years ago
KAI TI EGAINE?
PAOK NEAPOLI
PAOKARA1973 4 years ago
apo river plate re to pirate
sterjamba 4 years ago
oeo oeo oeo t afentika tis fapas eisaste sas lew
eiste lagoi ki afto to kseroun oloi
koumanto kanoume emeis s afti tin poli
kai mia zoi sti vromogeitonia sas
o paoktsis gamaei ti mama sas
mipos ki afto apo sas to klepsame erpeta?
tossica4 4 years ago
se dio xronia tha lete kai to vamos tourkia...vamos campeon...
stis andigrafes eiste kales...
nikosuper3 4 years ago
καλα ρε μας δουλευετε;;;αυτο το λενε απ'το 2004 στη λατινικη Αμερικη.τι καινουργιο συνθηματακι;;;πειτε και το αλλο το καινουργιο,τον υμνο της ριβερ πλειτ,αλλα οπου λεει ριβερ θα λετε ραοκ,δικο σας θα ναι ολοκαινουργιο
KOKKINIA3 4 years ago
Kanena kainourio sinthima sta tourkika tha anevasete re kologiftoi?
Antignosis 4 years ago
etsi kai kanenas de tha perasei fetos
ainte paokara m
PAOKARA1973 4 years ago
aleo aleo a0x0xaa0xa0xax0 a re paokakia...to sinthima to ferane prwtoi oi areianoi sthn ellada,oloi oi alloi na pa na koureytoume.
tweetycod2 4 years ago
gia ti na milisoume re apromavroi lagoi gia to treximo pou rixate sto panepistimio kai bikate sto kilikeio i gia to ntropiastiko gia esas rantevou tis mikras?
GalinhoSuper3 4 years ago
oxi mporeite na milisete gia ta MAT pou prepei na tous anapsete mia lampada isa me to mpoi tous gia ta 3 apanwta dakrygona pou mas riksane kai de sas valame mesa sto pale sta LAGOSKOUFEIA. episis mporeite na peite gia to pragmatiko kai me diko sas tilefwnima rantevou sta imia meta to Platanitsi. Oute enan sas den eidame,giati? H mikra einai epistimoniki fantasia...Kalinixta gkebeliskoi
paokselew 4 years ago 2
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psaxe ligo ta video sto youtube kai des oti kai mesa stin tourkia sas petousame fotovolides kai trehate lagoi.kai ti allo tha eleges gia ti mikra otan ntropiazesai etsi?pantos eseis eprepe na ginetai sprinter,sta lagoskoufeia kanate 100 metra se 7 deyterolepta.....
GalinhoSuper3 4 years ago
Esi (an se eixe afisei i mama sou na pas ston teliko twn mayroskoufeiwn) profanestata isouna se apostasi toulaxiston 100 metrwn apo to skiniko. Pane to vrady sto SOL na se poune ki alla paramy8akia oi supermarketades na koimi8eis isixos. Kalinixta
paokselew 4 years ago
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re pouthenades ti milate?afou xerete osoi eisastan ekei otan sas trehame oti to xilo to fagate k as eihate krani k molotof k diafora...alla de me eipes gia mikra katholou...oute me eipes ti egine ti mera p hasame me stavridi 3-0....perastika sas...
GalinhoSuper3 3 years ago
oxi de sta'pane kala. Tanks eixame kai antiarmatika kai 2 mpazoukas. Alla eseis epeidi eiste poli magkes kai alanomortides mas ta pirate me gymna xeria kai fagame kai ksylo. Kai ir8ate kai sto PAOK-OSFP eksw aptin Toumpa kai mas gamisate kai mas trexate se olo to gipedo. Kamia 30-35 atoma isastan alla treksate olo to gipedo giati eimaste flwroi. Entaksei? Mipos einai liga,na valw ki alla? Arxiparamy8ades tis poutsas..
paokselew 3 years ago
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akoma aimata ehei stis staseis...
GalinhoSuper3 3 years ago
oxi mono,exei kai ena vgalmeno mati kai 2 kommena daxtyla..
paokselew 3 years ago
eisai polu sostos re file pesta .OI ΛΑΓΟΙ ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΦΤΑΣΟΥΝΕ ΠΟΤΕ ΤΟΝ ΜΕΓΑΛΟ ΠΑΟΚ...
paokmiazw 4 years ago 5
re skoulikia ti 8a ginei me sas? Mia zoi tetoies malakies 8a lete? Panw apo 2 xronia exei pou to sin8ima tis River (giati tis River einai) filokseneitai se paoktsidika site. Xwria pou an isxyei oti to lete ki eseis,einai akoma pio megali kseftila giati oute kan to xoume akousei pou8ena na to lete,mallon giati psi8yrizete gatakia. Ena mats to eipame kai oi eidiseis tin epomeni mera grafane gia to kainourgio sin8ima..ANYPARKTOI PSEYTES MIA ZOI re pousti
paokselew 4 years ago 10
pera apo to tis malakies pou les to sinthima einai tis boca, afto pou tragoudoun tis river einai antisinthima...
nikosuper3 4 years ago
re file pisteyw ellinika milaw. de me noiazei poias omadas einai River i Boca,to 8ema einai oti to lene KAI OI 2,emeis etyxe na to paroume apo tin River kai to xoume dimosieymeno edw kai 2 xronia se PAOKtsidika site. To giati to eipame twra,einai diko mas 8ema. Min eiste toso mikroprepeis wste na fantazeste oti sas klevoume sin8imata. ayto leme..
paokselew 4 years ago
epeidh skoulikakia den eblepa kai poly to prwta8lhma ths b e8nikhs,ti elege to diko sas syn8hma?campeon ths fapas.akou ekei campeon,ksekinhste apo ta basika(kanena kypello as poume)kai campeon sthn b.
PAOKratia 4 years ago
floroi vazeloi fovaste to ksylo pou 8a fate
vagosmagestar 4 years ago
ti les re mlk kolosfirixtra...eseis apo emas to pirate..edo kai 3-4 xronia to leme mlkes...aniparktoi....
teatime1990 4 years ago
Λοιπον, μουναρες σκουλικια μην τιχον ξαναμιλησετε για ΠΑΟΚ θα σας γαμησουμε. Δωστε εισητηρια ρε κοτουλες τι γινεται φοβαστε την ασπρομαυρη φαπα ? Ε τι ειναι η μηπως τη πουτσα που θα φατε. ΛΑΓΟΙΙΙΙ
paokmiazw 4 years ago 2
re afoy oloi to exete klepsei apo river.
anyparktoi
vourlisia 4 years ago
vromoskoulika stis tripes sas anyparktoi
katzikiars 4 years ago
skoulikia ante pisw stis trypes sas anyparktoi ante ante gatakia ante siga siga...eipate thn paparia sas kselafrwsate ante pisw twra
kostasPAOK 4 years ago 2
PAOK MAGEIA 3-0 AXAX
vagosmagestar 4 years ago 2
ante vre malaka t eidate apo t internet p to eixame dimoseiusei k t klepsate mounopana skoulikiarides...mia zwi ksylo mia zwi kleutes sin8imatwn protathlites tis propagandas...kante kana sold out reeeee...aleo aleo aleo lene pws eisai mia outopia...GATE 4
kwlosfirixtra 4 years ago
Prwtoporos o laos ths mpaogk! Pali synthima mas eklepse!
ntougania...
geosu 4 years ago
erpeta tis gis kai tis psolis sti zoi simasia den ehei ti les alla pos to les. den ksero an to tragoudousate sto mpanio i sto spiti sas alla se gipedo pano 10 atoma den to fonaksan pote. alla an goustarete sas dinoume ta pneymatika diakaiomata mipos kai psisete kanena akomi kai kanete entos tou aiona kana sold out.
psekastiras 4 years ago
aleo aleo aleo aleo aleo aleo paokara sagapo paok loud and proud
poukamisas 4 years ago
afta pou leme emeis duo xronia eseis twra ta mathenete...xaxa re i opadoi tou zmpaog
nikosuper3 4 years ago
Vasika thelei ligo douleia to sunthima gia na ginei teleio. Ston agwna me ton ergotelh tha to fixaroume ;)
Godfevouras 4 years ago
ante stin trupa sou..
PAOK PANW APOLA
reset4 4 years ago
to leme edo kai 2 xronia
alla me esas pou na vgei akri.
edw lete oti to ole-ole-ola pou to mathane oi argentinoi sto mundial tis germanias se oli ti gi EINAI DIKO SAS.
Ante ligo arga ksypnisate!
raycharles3 4 years ago
paok leme reeeee
nnoolloo 4 years ago
Ego prosopika den to goustaro.
MIA ZOH PAOKARA
ASPROMAURA KOUFALIA
Koufalia4 4 years ago
PAOK panw ap'ola
ourdas 4 years ago
PW re magkes ksypnaei to thirio ths toumpaaaaas!!!
Pali emeis tha gemisoume to protathlima synthimata+thn evroph.
O paok panw apola.
Falegkoukos 4 years ago
ene pws eisai mia outopia
ki olo me psaxnei h astunomia
oti ki an lene de me endiaferei
ti 'sai gia mena kaneis de xerei...
aleo aleo aleo aleo....
pasoktsis 4 years ago
GAMAEIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!
Kilkisiakos 4 years ago