Framing Construction

[steve81132]

this has to be the cheapest frame job I've ever seen!! Try doing that in Canada!! You wont last all that long, but if this is standard framing for the states, than all the power to you!!

[otumoetaipat]

osb?!! yuck. is that standard in usa?

[Taxminia0311]

you would think that the walls would be more sturdy and stable when they are being lifted up off the ground it seems to me that they are flimsy, could it be because they were using thinner plywood sheathing instead of 1/2 inch ??? I could be wrong

[trudybom]

it'd helped if you explained everything via narration, why the fuck aren't they wearing harnesses?

[alkimst13]

what, no mexicans??? i like it!!!!

[wickedtwizt13]

@alkimst13 lmfao, its true usually every framing i see being done it mexicans!!

[harmageden]

This video made me soo nervous ...i'll bet the builders a slave driving , money hungry #%@^&& !!

[ligyro]

this crew is retarded. they wouldnt last a day on my site. im surprised they managed to get through a 5 minute video without an accident.

[b3boneman]

2x6 Ext. walls please! (worth every cent in reduced AC costs) Great Vid.

[permission3333]

Done in one day?

[OneOfTenVirgins]

I LOVE THIS VIDEO !!!! Awesome skills! I'd date/marry a carpenter any day over a banker/desk job man! Best shot is 2:16 ! What a shot!

My favorite!

[vlineguy]

I cut my stairs out of the rim joist material, its better than 2x12's

[justalex31]

wow very impressive

[Sector806]

Holy shit! These guys are dangerous. No safety gear at all, nailing towards yourself, nailing while someone is on the other side of the wall? Wow.

[ligyro]

these guys are not very safe at all. the worse offense was at 3:29. a nail gun is not a hammer.

[permission3333]

@ligyro stupidest thing I ever heard, and I`ve heard lots of stupid things.

[superwhiz88]

well done ,, amazingly effective team

[67tr876]

Why are we still useing nails ?

[Destroyke]

@67tr876 stronger than screws

[67tr876]

@Destroyke bull

[TheDaldi8800]

look this vid "The real carpentry ! (revised version)" and have fun ^^

[specialks1953]

Great production "But" it would be nice if more attention was paid to the detail of directional nailing. It is not about the number of nails that are shot into the structure. It is the about the correct placement of nails. I am not talking about the rapid fire nailing @ about 2:05, it is more about the lax positioning of nail angles throughout this video. I am no professional but I know nail angle is a very important part of structural integrity. Just my opinion. You are free to have yours.

[renobible]

Great Video, Old School Hard work Love it Boys

[BloodMarine087]

Epic Mullet at 0:32 lol

[xaboo]

This looks like a very unsafe jobsite aha...

No harnesses, hard hats, steel toes, safety glasses... I like when the guy is nailing 2 studs together towards his skateboard shoes.

[ESVDani]

This is the most exitin job in my opinion after alot of years doing it I still like it , but now that i have family i hate when i have to go so far to work here in Canada for a long piriod of time because i have a family.

[kalenabc]

must be nice to not having to wear a hard hat ,or boots glasses, harness. it looks warm ther too, try framing alll winter in canada eh!

[novakane87]

@kalenabc you'd have a heat stroke wouldn't you, eh?

[420greenmarine]

@kalenabc i hear ya

[pjfitzinc]

Nice video.

[slimangel22]

should have learned more about safety.. unprofessional! No hard hats, No steel toes Boots not glasses!

[TimSDobson]

This is a small example why I wont buy a production home. All speed and no craftsmanship. When it comes time for the new owner to hang pictures he will see every wobble on the wall.

3:09 dude jumps to hit a nail "Fired"

WTF, 3:19 the guy uses his air nailer as a hammer.

2:07 Over kill and probably missed the stud lol like most production builders on floors.

[stevetibcar]

@TimSDobson

You have obviously never used a Hitachi gun before, the head of the gun is built like a brick shit house. We use our guns in place of our hammers all the time and we have never had any problems, its twice as fast.

[dsmota1]

Muito bom...o processo de cosntrução...

[mtownlobo]

Squeaky floors like a mofo I bet.

[obxguitarist]

I always prefer plywood over OSB, but they both have their strengths and weaknesses

[omega4chimp]

i always wanted to shoot on eof thos enail guns up in the air.

[freaky69ify]

i dont understand how it can take so many people to frame up and fix trusses. come down to NZ and see some real carpenters doing things with half the people and twice as fast

[FreeMTrider]

Wow. What is up with the pre-sheathing of the walls?? I would never do that.

[Kuypers11]

Where's the hardhats and safety boots? :S

[Theycallmemrmoscow]

How i just like seeing construction workers without safety shoes using nailguns.

Sarcasm may occur

[Laofse]

@Theycallmemrmoscow You sure it's not safetyshoes? Many safetyshoes are very similar to "sneakers", or hiking shoes.

[d1incharge]

@Theycallmemrmoscow I framed over 15 years in tennis shoes, with a crew of mostly regular shoe wearing men. Idiots that think heavy boots and safety gear are "safe" are always the out of shape pale skinned pudgy kid that falls while trying to balance in their heavy shit boots, or hit there heads because some fag helmet was blocking their perifials. These guys are getting it done the right way, if it scares you don't watch it, if you think a job requires a steel toes, hire a professional.

[TimSDobson]

@d1incharge you said it. "hire a professional. " no carpenters on this job. all speed hacks.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson You are an obvious rookie, or a framer that has done it for years, and for some reason can't make good money from it? The bettter you are, the faster you are, treat the gun like a pussy all you want, they dont break using them "like a hammer" Did it hurt something?obviously not. They have also taken out one of the safety springs for a higher rate of fire, they are safer to toe nail with that way too. Picture wobble?Is that what your husband noticed? Slow crews screw customers out of$

[TimSDobson]

@d1incharge Not at all, In fact my crew can build a better quality home with better material than what this home owner paid the builder. At the end of the Day we all made excellent money. The home owner got a square and level home and saved money. the only person that gets screwed is the mega home developer cuz he didnt get a cut of the pie.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson We build and frame 25+ houses a year, three to four man crew. We develope the land, contract only a few good subs,(plumbing, hvac, roofing, drywall, flooring) The bigger you are, the cheaper the lumber, and the lower the price subcontractors will charge. We build houses for 25% less than any competitor in town because of our bulk savings. How can tell any of this in the video is out of square? Out of level? Straight? You can't, you just ASS UME you are better, because you"take time

[TimSDobson]

Ive yet to see a good crew level a floor so that its true. so when framers build the walls on the floor the wall studs take the contour of the uneven floor. Hence the wavy walls.. Just bad practice all around.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson Here in the real world, we use rim board. Rim board doesnt follow the contour of the concrete, and yet again, wasting time and money to please yourself because the customer wont know the difference. Level the floor? What a dumbshit! You are the type of framer we laugh at waiting for the local lumber yard to bring your double priced lumber, as you take twice as long pulling little stunts 99.9% of homeowners would rather not pay extra for, although you are making them. Quality my ass

[TimSDobson]

@d1incharge nice assumption. How ever you must be a guy that goes to the local homo depot to get his supplies since you noticed these guys do exist. I wont waste my time for i will order from a local supplier and have the material delivered. I buy in bulk and get discounts. My Argument is that it only take a moment to start right so you finish right. Ive yet to see a good quality job that has been achieved buy air nail happy subs.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson We have 8 semi trailers and two dedicated lots for lumber. We buy from our lumber yards dealer direct. Your contractors discount isn't really dick once you find out what they are paying. But we wouldn't be able to even talk to the distributor w/out dropping a ton of money, but we saved our customers a hell of a lot of money. Never spend more than a week per 1000sqft of frame too, never had a complaint, perfect is only wasting money, ignorant buyers could give a shit about perfect.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson If you are so worried about it, pour the concrete yourself!! We had a damn good concrete sub, but we decided to save more money, buy a truck/trailor/aluminum concrete forms, now it's damn near perfect every time.  If your concrete guy leaves you with waves, hire somebody else, or do it yourself. Don't piss time(aka the customers money) away on every job because of the concrete guy.

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson by the way, this crew boxed the walls before putting them up, therefore they won't follow the contour of anything, so you are wrong. If you want to pick them apart, bring up trusses, everybody knows those things are shit, and are a sign of a framer that is too dumb to figure a roof. We cut almost every hip/valley/rafter/ridge before we even start to put the roof up. We can actually stick build a roof faster than we put trusses up. Having 2 forklifts helps.

[TimSDobson]

@d1incharge Im not here to carry on a pissing match in this forum. Its not about the concrete, its more about joist that are not true. The thing I like most of this build that i can see is that they used engineered joist. Im sure you can understand that once the average builder crowns his joist that the floor will wobble using traditional lumber if they dont attempt to true it up. Majority of the guys here dont attempt this. Yesterdays job the floor was out 13/4 inch/ sucks to lay hardwood onit

[d1incharge]

@TimSDobson That is why you leave the flooring to professionals. 1 3/4 is insane. Crown them all up and we rarely see more than 1/4. 3/4 flooring and the right amount of glue can take over 1/8 of wobble out. They used engineered rim that is always perfect, same with the joist. Nail them flush with the top, shim later, exactly what they could be doing, yet you dog on them. Just cause you havent seen a good fast framer, doesn't mean they dont exist. Faster is cheaper for the buyer, that is a fact

[adumbrudy]

okay i been woundering about this for the longest. how is the wall framing not falling down after they put it up??? do they like nail it down to the foundation and if so... how does that hold down house from being blown away. If this is a dumb question my bad i just wanna know cause i just seee them put the wall frame up but i don't see what it is anchor to. please help me understand thank you

[1992Tpoe]

@adumbrudy I know how to frame, so I will tell you. We nail through the bottom plate of the wall in to subfloor and also the bandboard. All the walls are braced until all walls are up, which they are then nailed together, which ties it all in. In places like California, though, where high winds are common, they will use a hold-down, which is pretty much a bracket and a bolt. Here in Virginia though, we don't do that.

[sparky7700]

they leave the end nails up a little so you can grab it with the claw of your hammer......to make the header flush with the sides.

[1992Tpoe]

How do you do that at 1:12?

[sparky7700]

.....and now they all have tennis elbow ......nice

[gregvancom]

good video on framing

[heatseeker213]

just another day at the office

[TheUFOeffect]

BEAST MODE at 2:07

[falconsfan720]

@TheUFOeffect sounds like my paintball gun

[erwinjsnijders]

This is not the way we work in holland. nice movie tho

[03chevydriver]

good video but i wouldnt even think of using nails when putting in the flooring! i use screws.. takes a little more time and money but prevents squeeking in the future!

[pusherman19]

We always used PL with 2 3/8 glue dipped ring shank nails in the gun.

[d1incharge]

@03chevydriver No it doesnt, the glue is all that matters, if it fails, screws sweek too, or even worse, pop. The fastener is only there to hold until the glue dries, it is WAY stronger than nails or screws, and hitachi guns like that shoot full head nails. Screws are for rookies, these guys have pretty good style, too bad they aren't stick building the roof though. Screw a floor without glue, come back and tell us all about how quiet they are.

[trtl7]

@03chevydriver if you use screw shank it is just as good

[andybarnes20]

phat video just a day at work

[TheMuffinMix]

This video is the story of my life... except I set trusses via crane.

[Garciamrcool]

poetry in motion

[Naphorse]

I hate wen people say Us Framers are Crack heads. Well not all of us are.

[tribilindo]

hey guys good job i do that for almost ten years in the US thats what i called fun job now im framing in Canada and its not that fun cause the safety is very peeky , you have to use steel toe boots , harness for the roof , helmet all that shit thats make you incomfortable to moove you cant take your shirt off even

[NordicRick]

Man they make it look so easy.These guys are awesome.Great filming by the way.

[luis30secondsto]

YOU ARE RIGHT...!!!!!

[andybarnes20]

look at 1 min 27 the hammer work is a brill lol

[lewin5211]

They are using Hitachi nailers not paslode! maybe for the sheathing stapler as the paslode as a better rate of fire.

[lolzzzproductions]

pazloads are good for trusses and when you have wallframes getting put in place but when they stuff up ur screwed coz in perth we cant find any one who know's how to fix them.

[EyeFourAnEye]

this is what i do

[b0bcrown]

a masterpiece

[hansom0thomas]

Awsome Video wish to see more like it.

[TANTOR67]

ta canon yo trabaje asi 4 anios en meryland y se siente el calorcito! saludos a todos los fraimeros ohhh! tomense una chela !

[danjojomansk8]

this video rules!!!

[overtenemy69]

immagrints with a pouch

[lawnside82]

wow that was nice!!

[d1incharge]

hitachi makes such a damn fine gun + worm drives= good choices. Trusses, sheathing before you stand a wall= bad choices.

[simonsimon405]

@d1incharge

why does sheating a wall before standing it is bad?

advantage, disavantage plz

[d1incharge]

@simonsimon405 The floor is not always perfectly level, if you sheet it before you stand it you will likely have some gaps in the bottom plate. It makes the wall hard to lift, wind blows bad in Ks, you don't wan't weather to decide how you do it. You have to bend over to nail the sheathing vs. standing. You are more likely to have a level wall by leveling once it is stood. I just don't like the risk mainly.

[littlefire89]

@d1incharge dumb

[DeezyFoSheezy22]

@d1incharge its not really a bad choice, i mean people do it different ways but when you sheet the wall and then stand it its much easier in my opinion.

[d1incharge]

@DeezyFoSheezy22 It's a poor choice for quality. Your bottom plate will be nailed perfectly straight, ever seen a concrete/sill/rimboard/subfloo­r all stacked on top of each other and perfectly straight? Just doesn't happen that way, sheathing it before you stand it is just sloppy, and why bend over to nail sheathing, I have done both and I don't know how you could call it easier? It is more bending over, lifting a heavier wall, needing jacks or more men......what about it is easier?

[DeezyFoSheezy22]

@d1incharge like i said people do it different ways, you might prefer doing it that way but i prefer sheeting it before standing it, but you do make a good point on the hitachi cos it is a damn fine gun.

[andybarnes20]

jack stud transom noggle head plate sole plate nail gun chop saw level much lol i would love to do that sun and carpentry nothing better lol sad

[DRNEFDR]

oops looks like the cripple stud was short !

[DC180]

the what?

[rustlersillo]

Buen jale !

[bigvell02]

smooth video thats how i like to frame i see the  hitachi guns. man them things spit that plastic everytime you shoot but they are smooth

[andybarnes20]

two words (price work) lol love it

[elyeti77]

nosotros lo hacemos mas rapido

[infospill]

Ariba Mexico cabrones

[Wolf42Builder]

70 hours???

[SuedElf]

110*

[Wolf42Builder]

??????????

[800154870]

very cool, i hope all houses go up that fast.